Fixing Bally's 1977 EVEL KNIEVEL Pinball Machine! - Schematics, Power Supply, Fuses
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In less than one year of watching this channel, I’ve gotten addicted to pinball machines,fixed 3 of them and now own 2! Way more fun and useful than my college degree. 😂
@@ThePoxun yeah they do take up a lot of my living room now. 😂 Fixing them is almost as much fun for me as playing them now!
I cannot thank you guys enough for getting her up and running again! Kids play on it almost daily! Pinball is the cure for getting kids off video screens! Yep, my soldering skill have atrophied in the 15 years since I last had to do any soldering.
You did pretty good, don’t sweat it. I think the main problem was the filter cap on the solenoid board but glad to hear it’s working well!
Look after her and great to hear kids are playing her.
@@yesitreallyisme Will do! I looked for one at a reasonable price for about 3 years. It's my mid-life crisis buy, my wife got off cheep! I will probably do a playfield swap using a repo from Classic Playfield Reproductions in a year or so. Leaving the box alone as the wife likes the "antique" look.
@@jdumbrigue If it was me and I lived near Ron, I would ask him to fix the playfield instead of repo, it's only original once, or if you do go down the repo way keep that one safe somewhere.
@@robertlipsett2535 That was plan A till I replaced the rubbers and found that several of the post holes were "repaired" using toothpicks and wood glue. I could probably drill them out and repair them properly with wooden dowels. It would be less expensive for sure.
Ron i love the way you systematically work through these machines, showing us how to fault find. These machines can scare the living day lights out or us when there is a problem, but just start at the beginning and work your way through, simples! I've learnt a lot from you since watching this year.
Glad to hear it! They just look daunting they’re actually pretty simple once you mess with them a little bit ... see you on the next video Simon!
Love these videos! These will be historical archives many will replay long after both me and you go off to that giant arcade in the sky!
You and I are gonna live forever!
if it gives you a hard time Joe you can always launch it across snake river canyon lol
That's one thing I've learned as a automotive driveability tech working with circuit boards and computer modules, just because it's new in the box, doesn't mean it works. I've got lots of new modules from the parts department at the dealership I worked at, and while the old module would work, but had a issue, lots of times I've plugged a new one in and have it be completely dead.
I agree with Joey... 'We're gonna go with it.' 😊
Joey's always right!
Thanks for another great video Ron. Watch out for those intermittant pinball gremlins...
Love that little slip of the tongue at 34:35. "They all taste the same"? Somehow, I don't think that's how you're supposed to get your recommended daily allowance of iron. ;^)
Nicely done, Ronnie. I dropped a few quarters into this one too, back in the day. It's nice to see one that's been so well kept.
Same problem on Lost World with fuse blowing on start up, turned out it was the diode on the knocker solenoid. The only reason I found it easily was the game quit when someone got a replay.
Thumbs up as requested at the start. While I love this pinball machine, I have a DESIRE for that Time Crisis 3 machine. I PUT SO MUCH $ into that thing back in the day :)
Here we go again!! Glad to see this, thanks Ronnie and Joe!
Thanks for watching Nathan, hope you enjoy it :)
57:50
*HE'S ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!*
There's a distinctive charm in many of the Bally's old pinball machines that is almost gone these days. Happy to see this being repaired.
Keep up the good work Ron! Whenever this whole lockdown crap's gone, i'd love to visit the store in person, and perhaps get something from it!
Best regards from Mexico!
Yeah I like the old Ballys for sure!
Yes Ron, the one I've been waiting for, looks sweet.
It’s pretty nice!
instablaster...
When I was a kid in northern Virginia, our neighborhood pizza place always had a pinball machine, and for a while this was it! (I think they had a Captain Fantastic at some point.)
Great vid.. you actually helped me track down why my mpu board wasn't lighting up from this vid when you were calling out voltages on rectifier. I thought it was my driver but I found my 12v F3 fuse blown on rectifier. Now to figure out why. It goes to J3 which is backboard (and why I couldn't get 5v test on driver board). So I guess I'll start what u did checking wires and coils first.
Kings of steel 83 bally
Your timing is pretty good, today's video we did on a Bally KISS goes over the rectifier board and the solenoid board and problems you might run into with them, ours has the 12v missing too.
@@LyonsArcade quick question.. looks like I definitely have some cold solder joints on this jumper pins. Do you heat, take the strip off, removed solder and reapply? Or just dab a bit more solder to each pin and just let the heat reflow?
This was one of two games that paid for my video game/pinball habit. I could rack up 10 or so free games in about 15 minutes, then 'sell' it to someone for 50 cents (one play was 25 cents then where I played)
They enacted laws in many places trying to keep people from doing that, like you were some kind of gangster, lol Thanks for watching Todd!!
@@LyonsArcade Yeah I was in school and other kids would start to gather, hoping I had to go back to class so they could grab it. Sometimes they said they'd give me a dollar to quit and I'd say 'sure, here you go'. It wasn't my favorite game, but I had all the shots/timing figured out.
nice work
Nice one Ron !...cheers.
Next to Kiss my all time fav 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Thanks man!
Thanks for hanging out with us!
@@LyonsArcade not much else going on up here in winter so your stuck with me ;)
I played this one in Ashevile too looking forward to this series
That's a beauty!
It's definitely a looker :)
One thing to check which I did not see you do is the flipper eos switches, if it does not open when the flipper actuated the heavy winding will blow main solenoid fuse if flipper held up.
Luckily we'll check that in the next video (which we shot a month ago)
Thumbs up! Want one!
Very well done methodical troubleshooting. I'm assuming that you either re-attached the wires for the lock-out coil or at least sealed / covered the ends of the wires?? Specifically, the blue / green one. That's the 43VDC coil buss. I'm betting that was at least part of the problem with the 43V fuse blowing. If that wire touched any part of the metal frame of the coin door... POOF!! I didn't see in the video if you took care of those loose wires, but it definitely looked like that wire had the potential to short to the metal in the door.
@Joe's Classic Video Games at 20:09 in the video, look at the connections on E7, they appear loose, and with cold solder joints. Just a heads up, looks like a future issue.
ok
28:36 another reason to use the Testofon (it converts measurement current to audio frequency - does it in real time and no display required). I take like a minute to check out 30 driver transistors on a pinball machine with it (although mine is kinda useless below 50 Ohms, but there is another version for that range, I just don't have it)
ok
Did you re-measure the +5 volts *after* changing the main filter capacitor?
Also, I have had a couple of Alltek Ultimate MPU boards bad out of the box or fail within a week. They took care of it and sent a replacement board.
for its age those sides are verry good preserved
Looks like to me that a bunch of noise on the 5 volt line caused it to lock up and blew the fuse to start with. I have see this before on these Bally games!
I def think the main problem was that filter cap!
@@LyonsArcade Hi, where do you get the filter cap?
Thumb up for the cheek of your request :)
I forgot to edit that out lol
@@LyonsArcade I think you may have gotten away with it. I thought it was pretty funny and very honest.
Could the power wire going to the coin door solenoid short to the grounded metal on the coin door and cause the 5A fuse to blow? It looked like those wires were still stripped back on the ends. Another great video. I learned a lot. Thanks!
Yes that could do it :)
They oringally had wire nuts on them, must have falling off in the transportation to Joe's. I have heat shink'd them since Ron fixed her.
@@jdumbrigue nice, thanks for the clarification. 👍🏻
I had one. Still regret selling it.
To bad you don't have a way to check all the diodes for them to be blown. Both the rectifier diodes and the single reverse biased diode across the coils. Also check the resister across the Bridge Rectifier, including VR1 (red disk thing on the old board) & R3(which the symbol on the diagram is a Varistor/MOV). I am confused why nobody cleaned the old board with circuit board cleaner spray. I have watch dust conduct electricity, and also hide bad traces, or solder bridges. Also some of those solder Joints looked to be cold solder joints- they don't work too well.
JOES CLASSIC, on the schematic the bridge rectifier has an R1 resistor that is across the bridge rectifier, what is that resistor doing across the bridge rectifier? I have seen that often in power supply schematics. The flashing code was saying the PIA chip is bad, but it seems to fix itself?
I would assume the resistor is to make sure the capacitors discharge properly when the system is turned off.
Mate love ya Transformer - rectifier board upgrade . What brand of bard is that please . I have a 78 Six Million Dollar Man , Cheers
I noticed that the general illumination dims when you use the flippers. Is that normal?.
Did you notice anything else :)
@@LyonsArcade The intermittent glitch might be a bad solder joint
There is a tool that allows you to attach it to the 2 terminals where the fuse would normally go, and it shows when there is a short, and when the sort is cleared.
I saw an HVAC guy use it to track down a short and he said he uses it instead of having to keep putting in fuses.
Once it shows that the short is cleared he knows it is safe to put a new fuse in.
Anyone know what that tool is called and where to get one ?
Thanks
Bill in Quakertown PA
KC2OVX
A gentleman on here named Troxel just mailed me some of those, I'll show them off in one of our Jukebox videos that is coming out this week!
@@LyonsArcade I bet the device reads the ohms and it must have a battery in it to self power it and I think there's a light on it that tells either it has a short or the short has been fixed
It's a great tool to have so that you're not constantly blowing fuses and risking damage
Ron, can you explain the solenoid bus line? Does it just carry the solenoid power? For some reason I always thought bus carried data. Thanks
Yes it’s just the power
In electrical terms a "bus" just means a shared connection highway for something. Might be a single wire (as in a power bus) or might be a multi-wire bus (as in computers). Essentially though a bus is something that runs around a place (a machine, a room, a data centre) and is tapped into by multiple users who draw something from it, or push something onto it.
@@alanmusicman3385 Thanks for that explanation!
you definitely showed an example of why you don't fix a lot of problems at once with that rectifier board. that board had that hard short to gnd but if you had changed a lot of things since that board was new would have made it one of the last things to check but originally the old one was good and you made a compound error though I don't understand why the game was originally blowing out the fuse if all you had was low logic voltage because of a bad cap
Nothing worse than a ghost in the machine!
Gremlins
Ron '...so it could be something really simple '
*me notices that there is still 56 mins of video left to watch*
Yeah. I dont think it's something simple.
hahaha
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