A Customer's BROKEN WILLIAMS F-14 Tomcat Pinball Machine FIXED... and we now have T-Shirts!
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Ritchie was a great designer. This game is a good one.
Yeah he's the man!
Great Job Ron, F-14 has one of the best light shows out there. Thanks for talking about the fuse difference, its a huge deal.
Thanks for watching Frank, we appreciate it!
I LOVE F-14 TOMCAT!!! A very fast table with an AWESOME soundtrack!!! The 4-ball multiball is INTENSE!!!
Yeah it's pretty awesome!
Thanks for the constructive and pragmatic approach to troubleshooting. I appreciate it.
Thanks Miguel, we appreciate you always hanging out with us :)
I’m not a huge pinball player, but this is a machine I enjoyed playing.
Excited to watch the next video on this!
Thank you for watching Will!
traces are so easy to lift up especially if its a thin trace board or a board that had been fixed in a past life you would never even imagine.
Ain't that the truth I did one on a jukebox yesterday!
Hearing the train in the background takes me home. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
This is my arch nemesis as far as pinball machines goes. I never could get good enough to achieve 1 mil or more on it. Loved the design, wish I could love my playing skills on it. :D
You're doing better than me man :)
Wow such a clean system! And it like a ton of fun to play. I've lifted my share of traces. It sucks but using the schematic and continuity test will find the problems. Great job Ron.
Thanks Trey we appreciate the kind words :)
Ron, this is a great game and looks in great condition as well. Thanks for taking us along for the ride.
Glad you enjoyed it TCB we appreciate it!
Two machines to the right is a machine that has hundreds of metal balls with twin handles that fire the balls like a machine gun. But those memories are 40 years old
Check this out Art!
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@@LyonsArcade - comparing the two, the one I played was Hyperball. This was the beginning of the era of sensory overload. I assumed they were a maintenance nightmare which was why they faded away.
Whoa! A newer pinball machine. This is awesome. :D
Yup, we get some that are a little newer in sometimes :)
Friend has a F-14,. Take 3-4 winding of of the pop bumper winding. Adjust the switch so it sensitive. Plays so much more awesome.
That sounds like it would work pretty good, thank you Craig!
Great repair job done on that F-14 and great looking game also😎👍
Thanks Danijel we appreciate it!
I swapped out scr6. Works brilliantly. No more strange coil firing. Thanks so much for the great videos.
Very cool Pauz, glad you fixed it!
There's a trick I did too achieve high scores.
But I'm not sure it's because how the game was balanced or something but when the ball gets kicked out by the yagoff tunnel.
You can trap the ball with the right flipper and with the momentum of the ball it can go up and down the in Lane back to the flipper.
Where you can shoot it back into the yagoff tunnel and repeat the process over and over rack up all the kills.
I doubt I'll be accurate enough to do that but we'll see :)
Thank you For posting! Lot’s of info on your process of troubleshooting. It is a lost art. Willie from Iowa.
Thanks for watching Willie, we appreciate it!
Oneof my favorites pins ive had through here. The kicker top left is a great shot.
25:20 I like LAN CAT cable wire for jumpers. It's 24 ga, solid core , and it's thin. Plus a 1 foot section of scrap cable gives 8 ft of jumper wires in 8 different colors.
That would work pretty good for jumpers, for sure! Thanks for watching CO Jones
Hooo-weee that is one cool flashy game! Nice work getting to the bottom of it, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching Steven, we appreciate it!
Really enjoy your videos! Personally, my favorites are your videos that feature EMs. Hopefully, you’ve got some EMs in the queue to be worked on! Keep up the great work and thanks for taking the time to video document everything!
Yes we have many more EM's we'll be working on, we have several we've already done the videos on but they haven't debuted yet :) The next couple are Bally's "Freedom" and a sweet Williams "Space Mission"... see you on the next video!
@@LyonsArcade Can’t wait! Thank you!
That machine is a beauty indeed. Gorgeous.
It's a great game too, one I really enjoy. Hope to own one someday.
Yeah it's a special one. Steve Ritchie put the dragon fire in it :)
Another great video with great information. I haven't had to work on System 11 boards yet, so I didn't even know about those resistor packs. Hey look! Nice Shirts!
I've worked on a couple of them but never had to mess with those particular resistor packs, although I've ran across them on video game boards like Galaga for instance.
I still have a few Aladdin's Castle tokens in my stash.
They were pretty big around here...
@@LyonsArcade They were the only arcade in town in my youth. The bowling ally had a few as well as the university. Other than that you were relegated to gas stations and a few stores.
I got more than a few! I also got a few of their velvet token pouches/ bags, a spiffy gift certificate & some those plastic tubes with the lanyard that kept water proofed your tokens!
That machine is frigging gorgeous.
These repair videos are very entertaining!
Thank you Michael, we appreciate you watching!
Thanks Joe, very informative!
Thanks Rick, glad you enjoyed it!
The decals on the transparent plastics are from Arcade Moi ça (Quebec) He does Arcade and pinball restauration (has a youtube channel too). I have them on my F-14 and they do look fantastic
Very impressive condition,looks like its been really well cared for !! Thanks for the video guys x :)
Thanks Saskia, we appreciate you checking it out :)
What a great looking TomCat. I've worked on 2 of these and they both have had fried resistor packs. Must be a weak link. Also love the soundtrack in this game!
I'd never heard of that particular problem but apparently it's a thing!
really looking as new! wow incredible condition. f14 tomcat is pretty common in the netherlands. but i have never seen this in such a nice shape .
We have another one in our shop that is in much worse shape but we're going to fix it up as nice as we can...
Very nice repair to a very nice condition F-14. Mine had switch issues when I got it. Three switches had backwards diodes, but it was a great learning tool for me. Thanks for the video. This pin is a keeper.
Were the backwards diodes from the factory like that, or a repair? Good find on that one!
@@LyonsArcade Someone's repair, it had a lot of poor repairs and neglect. Fortunately the boards were fine, just put a 2032 battery on.
That’s an awesome light show!
It's pretty cool!
You know. I know you don't like the LED lights these machines and I agree with you. Especially some of the older EM's and others. But I gotta tell ya, the LED light's in this machine seem to work really really well. Great video! Great machine!
It really depends on the game and how you use them, which LED's you buy, etc. This one is a fighter jet theme, so they work really good with this theme in my opinion. If I were repairing one... I think i'd still use the original bulbs though, lol
Cant beat the traditional lamps
What a cool playfield! Checked the backglass on IPDB and it's great too! Never saw this pinball here in Brazil, but I'd definitively love to play it!
Any game made by Steve Ritchie is a great game :) The guy is still rock and roll 100%
Nice unit! Good work.
Thanks Phillip!
Thanks Ron for this great video 👍👍
Thanks Dennis, we appreciate you watching!
Great vid- great solid board work technique! A tip for your viewers, if someone is wanting to do the resistor pack mod- these resistor packs come in different sizes. So, rather than just not connecting the last resistor in the pack, just order one shorter- a 9 position instead of the 10..
That's what I did but apparently the 9 pin ones are a little harder to find...
@@LyonsArcade Oops! You did! I hadn't watched far enough yet to see that, you in fact use the 9-pin ones! Wish I was closer to your area, you're a touchups master too. I'm good with the electronics- the paint not so much! :-)
Thanks Ron that’s a nice machine. I should get a system 11 game, I’ve had everything else. I always thought Bad Cats looked fun.
Yeah that's definitely a fun one, very cool game :) We did one a few years ago... czcams.com/video/-UtPxe799J4/video.html
That was a tricky one ,with the too small of fuse. Nice job! I noticed it had your recommended fuses for the rectifiers too. Good to see a system 11. I'm working on a High Speed. I got it with a new playfield still in the box. I have transferred everything over to new field and am hoping to fire it up soon. The guy took apart a lot of it already. I had only pictures to go by that he had taken and that I got on the internet.
Yeah that's always tricky picking one up in the middle of a restore, when I take playfields apart I try to put them right back together, lol. Great game though!
LOVE that game! The place I worked at in the 80's got two of those things, both Prototypes. WMS had the 2 red flashers behind those upper stand up targets populated on the proto's and the early tuns. Made for a great light show but when the target got bent back to hard by the ball it would short the target to solenoid b+ and do ALL KINDS of damage to the switch matrix. I cant tell you how many times I fixed that matrix before I figured out what was going on. LOL!
Its super nice looking with those LED's too!
I have another one we just got into the shop, that is in pretty rough shape ,so we'll see how close I can get that one, to this one :) Stay tuned!
Wow...what a machine.....and you are the man! ...awesome work...really enjoyed this one...cheers
Thanks Chris, I appreciate that... glad you enjoyed it!
What a great ending to a top vid, cheers from the UK.
Thanks J Wilko we appreciate you watching :)
Used to have an Aladdin's castle around here (I remember them fondly for the skeeball cabs and the deluxe sit-down Road Riot dual-seat cab with the volume turned up.. :-) ). Never paid attention to notice they were owned by Bally. Interesting.
When I was a kid I never paid attention to any of that, I dont' even know what the name of the arcade was in the mall here I went to every day for like 3 years, lol
Nice unit. She's leaning a little right I think. Maybe I can convince my wife to get a pinball if it's fighter jet related as she works in the industry ... got the wheels spinning lol
There's another one called "Gold Wings" It's not as good but still a fun one, it's kind of a Top Gun rip off. czcams.com/video/Cuycdbftmic/video.html
That is one in your face machine :-) neat repair, thanks for filming.
Thanks vBarbecue, we appreciate it!
Awesome tip on light and tracers!
Only learn by making mistakes sometimes and if ya never try ya never get it done!
Thanks my friend!
3 thumb click on this one ✌️😁👍👍👍
Thanks Gnomie, I watched you making a bandshell last night, haha
Well done!!
Aw, man, thought this was ours at first and was shocked it cleaned up so nicely. Our F14 isn’t nearly so nice, hopefully you guys can get it working correctly for us!
We will, I don't know if it'll be this nice but it will play good, don't worry about it :)
Teddy Loves it - Thanks again Ron!
Thanks for watching!
Heard this was a great game.. good to see it in action.. One day I may get to play one.
They sold a bunch of them, one may appear near you soon :)
The ribbon cables are just pressed into 2 metal V shaped blades that connect to the plug holes :) i've been repairing computers back in the day seen a ton of them :)
"Insulation displacement" they don't hold up too well :)
@@LyonsArcade But these ones.... do not pull them apart.... they will (never) not go in correctly again.. or you need some patience to get them correct :P the connectors are easy to break :P
Bodge is a repair in the UK and Australia. Dave from EEVblog, and BigClive have made it a world wide term, i think. Before them, i called it a jumper
Over here I'd never even heard of it until recently... they might not use the word "rig" though not sure, like "I'm going to rig this up"
@@LyonsArcade we'd rig things up. If we did it clumsy we'd "mickey mouse" it. The first time i heard "bodge" was junk yard wars.
The cond. of the F-14 Tomcat PM is great.
Yeah it's very nice... we have another one we're going to be working on that's not so nice!
One of my favorite ! I’ve just bought one and serviced it. The 2 top switches do not seem to work on yours, but this may be only that they need to be adjusted (a nightmare on mine !).
Yours sounds like it's definitely better than mine!
@25:00 He likes big wires, and he cannot lie! LOL...thought he was going there for sure....probably afraid of a copyright strike.
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This looks awesome. Wish I had played it
It's pretty cool!
Man I used to play games at Aladdin's Castle in South Texas as a kid. =(
Aladdin's Castle was cool!
Love this game, been playing it to death on an emulator recently. Sure tests your reactions to the limit. As does Robotron, another in my top 10, fingers crossed for that video. 👍
We'll see if we get one in, a gentleman is supposed to bring his by :)
This game has always kicked my butt the few times I’ve come across it lol
It's pretty fun, kind of deep ruleset for it's age....
Soo awesome. I was actually thinking of messenging you about this same issue then this video shows up in my feed. For test... get it in a spot with 3 balls locked. That’s when mine randomly shoots out a locked ball. Also scores random yagov kill hits.
I also get random tilts with this issue. Was pointed to the src6 issue before so this is killer. Thanks.
Ahhh, that makes sense then, I didn't know that they're commonly doing this.
@@LyonsArcade really appreciate the video. Really. Really do. This has been driving me crazy for a while.
Awesome video! Awesome game!!
It's a nice game! well preserved! Great fix! :) and it has a nice attract mode too :) an attract mode needs to have half of the neighborhood blinded by it... or your better off with no attract mode :-P
I like when the police get called because of the attract mode :)
We had an Aladdin's Castle in my town. I was sad when that place closed.
Also I remember the stobe boards under the play field there are these ceramic resistors that break off and make the strobes not strobe or just break.
I just bought some _solid_ 24awg bodge wire for a dart machine I've been messing with.
Very cool, that will work!
Hey I allso remember on the play field there are strobe bulbs in the back everytime you lift that play field it would run the traces off that board just making the lamps inop. Take a look👀
Ironic you're covering SIP resistors today.
I'm repairing a Galaga I picked up recently.
When powered up it coins up, starts, ship goes to right side of screen and doesn't respond to inputs.
Narrowed it down to a couple failed SIP resistors and some mystery corrosion in the input area of the board.
Funny thing is there's NO capacitors anywhere near this damaged area yet the schmoo stain is the classic leaked capacitor damage.
Waiting for digikey to get my parts here (always order a few extras) and couldn't think of Great plains electronics at the time.
Glad you posted this video, GPE is in my bookmarks now! Believe it or not they're cheaper than digikey!
Great Plains Electronics is great... if there is cap damage it's very possible it may have leaked off the monitor above it, it'd be interesting to see if the board is directly under the monitor (I can't remember which side the board is on and the monitor board is on) Something similar happens in bally pins when the battery alkaline literally drips onto the board below it...
@@LyonsArcade Hmmm, I will run out and look at that. I thought I looked high and low for a source but will double check!
Joe, (I KNOW THATS NOT YOUR NAME!) yes the monitor board is in fact directly above the area in question. I did remove the monitor early in the repair process and the board looked fine so I ruled that out as a source but now that I think about it the monitor worked good (during my brief test) so I ASSumed that couldn't be it.
But, the monitor has Tron burn in so who's to say the board didn't spew out electrolyte previously and get repaired after damaging the game PCB!
On a totally unrelated (to this video) note, It looks like I need a Namco 51xx IC from a Galaga board. From what I understand the 51xx can come from Galaga, Dig dug, pole position, Bosconian or Xevious.
By chance would you be willing to sell one if you have one?
Apparently they're almost unobtanium unless you buy a whole board.....
Thanks!
www.multigame.com/NAMCO.html
You can hear the recycled sfx from Big Guns. Loved both of those back in the day.
We did a Big Guns awhile back :) czcams.com/video/YIqmtWfixpg/video.html
They'll slide right inn!!!
That's the first time I'd heard of a combination resistor and capacitor pack. I bet those were special orders from the factory, which is why you'll never find a replacement.
Also, bodge wires, as I've seen them pointed out, were wires added at the factory to make last-minute fixes to the PCB. Sometimes they are accompanied with cut traces. I only call your wire "a repair".
That makes sense, yes I've seen a lot of factory wires to fix design issues...
Lady's and gents.... I think i found the understatement of the day.... @33:48 "i got a bunch of them" ...... you got a boat load of them :-) do not take them apart as you probably wont get the plug back into the original state :P
We try to keep extras :)
If the owner watched this I bet he was chuffed !...cheers.
He's a cool dude he brought us another game to work on, we'll have videos of it soon and I'll tell you the story :)
JOE'S CLASSIC, What small capacitors by the Resistor packs you mentioned that the schematics doesn't install the small capacitors any reasons why? because they are soldered in the pcb those little yellow capacitors. The Whole problem with the repair was that the wrong resistor pack VALUES were wrong?
It looks like they were going to add extra capacitors in the board so that you wouldn't need the resistor and capacitor combination piece... but on some boards they're there and some they aren't. The whole problem was yes those resistor pack values were wrong and also there were 4 places where the trace on the board was broken so I had to put the jumper wires.
An awesome t-shirt would be "Ron says it's COPACETIC"
use your test meter on amps and across the fuse holder, should tell you what amp draw you have going on,
"This was after high speed" If you've ever been on the receiving end, they are easy to spot!. Hahahhaha
I fixed one of these a year ago the special solenoids were out and had a bad ic chip.
The bonus multiplier isnt registering by the looks of it. You went round the top loop (u-turn) at least twice while bonus-x was lit and it didnt register (red arrows pointing towards Yagov kicker)
Yagov kicker is a bit hit and miss also, it definitely worked ok a couple of times, first and second times looks like it didnt kick it out, just released it.
I guess you already know this, just wanted to make it look like I was paying attention 😉
Anything else I did wrong you noticed?
Didn't notice anything else, yet!
After watching second video, looks like its playing just fine, maybe like you said ball could be skipping over one of the switches. Just too damn fast to be sure.
Certainly not suggesting its anything you are doing wrong. Very much appreciate your hard work and filming the process of keeping these amazing machines alive!
I have one of these. It looks like when the ball went through the inlanes it is supposed to light the bonus x. It did light but when you shot the ball up around that loop with the bonus x lit you didn’t get the bonus multiplier. The red triangles on the left of the playfield.
The gate was stuck open, and man it sucks because it completely ruined the video for many people, I've had several make comments and the only thing they noticed or felt was worth mentioning was that switch didn't work.
@@LyonsArcade I got ya. Thanks for doing the videos. They have helped me out several times.
There is a William's service bulletin I think to remove this bulb and socket.
Just noticed that the Williams Logo is Motorola upside down?
Full mylar top makes it faster, like as fast as none and raising back legs?
It's fassssssst man, ... I've been trying to figure out if Williams or Motorola used that logo first I haven't came to a definite conclusion yet :) Williams was using it was back in the day but I don't know if Motorola was using it that early or not. Williams was around in the 40's, and was definitely using it by the 60's... but Motorola was around even before that but I can't find anything old they used that logo on.... This is one of the great mysteries of pinball :)
I found something from the 50's just now Motorola used it on, so they appear to have moved from a wavy logo to that logo sometime during the 50's, now I need to find the earliest version of Williams using it :)
Ron, is there a table you have never played but have always wanted to try. Just wondering.
I haven't played MOST games so yes :) My attitude is I see fun in all of them, so I enjoy playing pretty much any game, I mainly like working on and playing stuff I've never played before just to see what neat things they came up with... in the shop while I'm working on these I listen to audiobooks, right now I'm listening to Dracula... so I'd like to play the Williams Dracula pin to see how the Mist Multiball works :)
Is this one a early or late production. They removed a stone bulb removed on later production. I think it wound short and blow the mpu. By the pop bumpers 😁
How come all the great arcade game sources seem to be on the East coast?!?! I have a feeling if you were local here we would end up being friends.
It just seems that way, people around here think all the great stuff is in California.
@@LyonsArcade The way it is I suppose. When it comes to cars then yes, west coast is the place. 30+ year old cars on the road all the time.
Hey I was wondering if you could show the serial numbers on the games? I would love to enter them in the ipsdb
We filmed a video of us playing it and I believe we showed the serial number on that video, it'll be up Friday.
48:00. What happened to the back box lights. Looks like they are all dead now?
When the games got a little more advanced in the mid 80's, they started adding general illumination relays that were controlled by the main board, so they could turn all the general illumination lights off for certain modes, so the game has turned all the GI lights off so that all you can see is the police light up top, and the insert lights on the playfield as a special effect. If they left the GI lights turned on it wouldn't look quite as dramatic, it's just part of the light show :)
all bodge wires are jumpers. not all jumpers are bodges. Basically something has that has to be added to a design after the PCB is made is a bodge wire. If it's part of the design and not fixing a problem found late in production, then it's a jumper.
personally don't like the playfield protectors..they make the ball too Floaty..that's a great fun game though..rebuilt 2 now!
Thanks for watching CaptNRetro!
@@LyonsArcade Been watching since you were in the low thousands in subs..great stuff as always man
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Ccol playfield! 😎😎
Definitely!
I *FINALLY* remembered to use the link. Any chance you can make your affiliate link a Smile.Amazon link? If not, if I add items to my cart with your link, but check out with Smile.Amazon, do you still get the credit?
I'm not sure how it works to be honest with you :) Thank you though!
@@LyonsArcade No problem! Don't be laughing at all the kinky stuff I bought, now! 😆
Its seems that the BONUS Contacts did not work, specially the Right one after the flipping spinner.
That's my favorite Pinball machine ever.
Mmmm. If only I could afford it.
Oh well.
And one more thing FIRST COMMENT.
It is a very fun game, that's for sure!
Or mods as well.
Horrible things??? You are a horribly talented arcade service engineer!
Thank you William, I think :)
A lot of the plastics and the airplane isn't original.
I played F14 TOMCAT at my home town arcade when if first came out.
Unless Bally's and Williams did a revamp on them.
It's been tastefully modded :)
I know.
It looks so sweet.
You wouldn’t get away using that low gauge wire on some of todays boards it raises resistance and some wont boot if it has security it thinks its being hacked
I don't work on anything less than 20 years old :)
@@LyonsArcade also thats magnet wire you are using its coated with a enamel that can scrap off and short out kynar is the wire you want to use if you did use it and solder mask looks so much cleaner keep it from ever being yanked off also
It was great to see the gameplay with the lights on. …. you could see how great this playfield is, and I could follow the gameplay much better. …… sorry, Ronnie …. I’m just saying, … com on now.
I don't like recording them with the lights on, they're not as fun
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