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Last week featured one of the most bizarre shakeups in the tech landscape. OpenAI fired their CEO Sam Altman, before taking him back days later. What followed was a flurry of rumours as to what happened, the most interesting of which is a human level (AGI) project called Q*. What happened? In this episode we take a look.
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I gave up following the drama on the third day and said to myself - 'F*ck it, I'll let Cold Fusion summarise it for me once the dust settles'. Thank you Dagogo!!
Save More : 'A theranos edison like database running gibberish binary numbers after being funded from within the dark corridors of power as usual & thus under pressure from disgruntled elites as to whether they ever knew wtf they were talking about.
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Same here actually!
lol same
short answer is Israeli Power in the US, people need to wake up and see what jews are really doing to their country! Israeli power is so overwhelming in the US and AI is the biggest threat to this powerful hidden control over a big country like the united states. So, this decision was just a threat to Sam that they are in control and can fire him at anytime if he goes against their will.. no wonder the decision came from Ilya who is Israeli dual national
''Open AI is nothing without its people'' is possibly the most ironic thing ive ever heard
it would be nothing if not for their efforts. maybe that would have been for the best. if every one involved found something else to do before ever starting this.
David Tierney’s comment stands on its own and it’s a brilliant profound take.
So much for AI needing humans.
DavidTierny’s level of foreshadowing is insane!
The para consistent truth is its nothing with them either.
I learned today that 747 out of 770 employees at OpenAI issued the ultimatum that got Sam Altman re-hired as the CEO. 97%. OMG!
When all this was going down I literally said to myself “ I can’t wait for Dagogo to break this down.” You didn’t disappoint✅ Thanks bruh. 😊
Nice copy/paste 😂
This is probably the most mysterious corporate stories of all time. I hope the truth comes out soon.
*story
Created by OpenAI 😂
If you look OpenAI homepage, the first sentence you can find is : "Creating safe AGI that benefits all of humanity"
I personnally believe that OpenAI found a pathway to AGI with whichever algos they're working on, and are basically at a point where it will be achieved sooner or later. The last thing they have to do is to make it safe for consumers.
David Shapiro said back in March 2023 that AGI will be achieved in 18 months (Sept 2024), and it's probably the only good prediction for now.
Mark my words, we are beyond f*cked
@@Walexo45 If that's true then this could be the main reason why this whole drama happened, I don't see how the board wasn't aware of them developing an AGI if they were making one. I suppose that why they fired Sam and listed "not communicating to them" as the reason.
Sounds like the board doesn’t want to be a for-profit company, but Sam does.
As far as the employees go, I wouldn’t be surprised if many of them have been promised shares in the company if it goes public, which is why they so desperately want Sam in charge.
the employees almost certainly were promised or even given stock *options* (which are popular employee benefits as they technically don't cost anything to give away), which would become very valuable if the share price jumped up.
It's all about Q*
This sounds plausible, because why would Altman immediately jump to Microsoft?
I believe that’s what happened too, because the whole mission statement of OpenAI was to be a research company who sets ethical standards for other machine learning projects. In fact that’s why they said they didn’t regulators, OpenAI would regulate!
Them prioritizing profit over everything was basically inevitable.
Snakes on a plane 🐍
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AI explained has the best coverage of Q*. It's probably a generator/validator architecture which uses massive compute at inference time (not just training time). It's probably able to do math much better than gpt. But still only at school level. Big development. Not AGI yet. Overblown perhaps. Still scary.
Thats scary bec. thats like a toddler to genius in a matter of days and from Jarvis to Ultron to Infinity Ultron in a short amount of time. Pretty much like what the movies has shown.
Honestly they should be clear on what happened. Hard to trust a company that's this secretive on sensitive topics
But mystery is perfect to maintain hype in a way that isn't legally actionable as lying
Nobody is trying to make you trust them.
Q* is real
Or one that comes out of the gate censoring our writing and image ideas… just absolutely disgusting, and mind-bendingly ignorant at the inception of something that is the future.
They never asked for your trust 😅
Moral of the story, never click a Google Meets link in the middle of the night lol
Google at least knows what happens... 😮
haha good point!@@Funglutton
hahah genau!
short answer is Israeli Power in the US, people need to wake up and see what jews are really doing to their country! Israeli power is so overwhelming in the US and AI is the biggest threat to this powerful hidden control over a big country like the united states. So, this decision was just a threat to Sam that they are in control and can fire him at anytime if he goes against their will.. no wonder the decision came from Ilya who is Israeli dual national
I do believe this out of the blue 3 day war drama has something to do with a major research breakthrough at OpenAi. The fact that the Board has refused to state why Sam was fired even to this day has me very intriqued, something so secretive that nobody wants to say anything. Ironic that the company has Open in its name, its far from open and there is so much secrecy.
Open, as in openly available, which OpenAI generally has been.
And of course there is secrets... there is secrets basically in anything. Of some kind and another.
short answer is Israeli Power in the US, people need to wake up and see what jews are really doing to their country! Israeli power is so overwhelming in the US and AI is the biggest threat to this powerful hidden control over a big country like the united states. So, this decision was just a threat to Sam that they are in control and can fire him at anytime if he goes against their will.. no wonder the decision came from Ilya who is Israeli dual national
It has to be ethical issues in that breakthrough.
@@yothiga No it doesn't
Elon had a very interesting take on this. The reason why he co-founded OpenAI bec. at that time Google was the leader in AI w/ 2/3 control over it and he said Larry Page didn’t care about the ethics just the tech n business. Thus OpenAI was born to counter that. Now he says Sam is similar to Larry Page but Ilya has a high moral compass and is totally for AI safety. They def. both discovered something big, like opening Pandora’s box, and Ilya was totally against it but Sam doesn’t mind opening it. I think thats the crux of the conflict.
There’s that moment as an adult where you realize there are no thoughtful, trustworthy people rooted in integrity in charge of society, and that the rules and resulting history are written by the winners, which are mostly greedy, self serving, often sociopathic businessmen…then stories like this confirm that cynicism.
Wow.
Who would have thought that people running a company based on scraping writing to create "AI" would be at all sketchy.
Yep. And it all starts with "We just want to benefit humanity".
It's easy to say as an outsider that everyone in charge is unethical, but people like Sam Altman are dealing with some pretty complex challenges with lots of people on lots of sides standing to benefit or be hurt. I'd be less inclined to believe everyone in charge are sociopaths, but to think that some of them are but some of them are genuinely empathetic people who have a lot of hard decisions to make
Your thoughts and judgments are too simplistic. Game theory helps. If you know the potentially destructive dangers of AI, you can't risk letting someone else develop it first. With great financial power, you would be more likely to achieve the goal. This is the lesser evil. From a game theory perspective, it is then rational to push for AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) despite the dangers, using all means. It is comparable to Oppenheimer."
@@tomschuelke7955yeah but this one is different. This is the moloch of all moloch, and unlike thermonuclear weapons, we only get one chance to do this right. Once we create the first encounter, the super intelligent, there is no more control over our faith. We lose our position as the telos of the the world, and will fade into the background depending on the intention of our own creation. This goes beyond game theory.
I think you forgot the part where Emmett Shear, the ex-CEO for 5 seconds, said that the dismissal wasn't about safety. Given that that's more of an official statement than the rumors about things like Q* I tend to believe that the reason for the firing was because Sam was just doing some backroom deals and wasn't being honest about them, which is why the board said that Sam "wasn't consistently candid". This is just my guess, based on the few statements we have. I don't want to rely on speculations, especially now at a time when people are capitalizing on the uncertainty.
That being said, seeing how the investors particularly Microsoft came to Sam's rescue immediately makes me worry that AI safety has essentially been put to the side in favor of short term profits (ironically the opposite goal of the company). I sort of already knew that when the AI arms race started but now it seems much more clear who's running things.
If they want to dismiss that it`s about safety it means that it is definitely about safety
Concerns about AI safety are pointless. If you slow down, you can be certain someone else is still going at 100% to surpass you. Depending on who those competitors are, it can be even less safe to let them take the lead. I'd say they should keep going and address those concerns down the road. Fight malicious AI with good AI.
@@Homiloko2that has worked out so well in the past-like with data privacy and scam emails and online shopping and… oh wait.
@@biguattipoptropica What's the alternative? Slow down OpenAI which seems like an alright company, and let Google, Russia and China keep going full speed? If we can't stop everyone, there's no point stopping someone unless it's proven they're doing something bad.
The problem is that if the Board have stepped down they would likely have been paid off with expensive settlements and Non-disclosure clauses, further suppressing the truth.
I love Cold Fusion. By far my favorite channel. Thanks for making such great content.
I think it’s far more likely to be a situation similar to what happened at google a year or so ago where that one engineer thought the model was conscious. I think a lot of people don’t understand how difficult making an AGI is and how much more advanced than chatGPT it would actually be.
I agree. Of course, the easy way out is to redefine AGI to something achievable within a timeframe that big investors would be happy with. I wonder if that's the case here.
AGI will make ChatGPT look like auto-correct.
AGI is pretty much a scaled ChatGPT with more parameters, and more fine-tuning. It would be a whole lot better than ChatGPT, but it's not fundamentally different. It's like ChatGPT 3 and 4. The answers are higher in quality, but the base model has just been expanded. Brute force upgrade.
I think the concept of AGI is more theoretical than practical. If you want an AI to outperform humans, it should be fine-tuned for that task explicitly, unliked ChatGPT which is a general knowledge AI. Think of AGI as the state space, and then any use-case specific model as a state in that space, which would differ only in terms of the parameters defined for it.
At the end of the day, this is just a parameter fitting problem, basically a function. You cannot create sentience, nor program it really, you can only make AI mimic it from recorded data. What I mean is that it will inevitably be only a weapon, not an independent thinker. That means if it ever causes harm, it would be because of the human hand that wields it. You can make AI drones for military, for tanks, for submarines, for troops even. You can make the perfect politician, the perfect lawyer, the perfect assassin, but at the end of the day, it will only be what you envision it. It won't act independently. People try to imagine what they can't understand, the norse thought thunder was Thor banging his hammer, people who don't know what AI really is only see that it acts like a human so it must be human. If it's human, then it can make its own decisions, oh no, we are cruel creatures, what if it does to us what we do to the world, and start ranting about sci-fi bs.
Generative AI was created ages ago, but because of the superior hardware we have now, it got on people's radar just recently, so they think it's sth completely new.
Mark my words, AGI will just be a plugin tool for knowledge-based applications, mainly used in software development, e-commerce, and education. Then it will be customized by independent developers to be used in games, apps, and stuff like that. Maybe the government would then use it for automated targeting and deployment alongside actual soldiers, but that's it. It won't be this Ultron of a robot thinking independently and scheming.
If you still think AI is sentient, just read a bit about ML. It was created in the 50s as a form of performing parameter fitting using recorded data. Nothing more, nothing less. The only thing that has changed over the years is the type of data, and the objective for it to fit to.
First half: Oh wow, thats fucked up. I cant believe the entire board tried to do him dirty like that, like a bunch of greedy snakes.
Second half: Oh. Fuck.
Yep, it sounds more like a hostile takeover from Sam. The board were trying to put brakes on his ego and it backfired badly.
Is it just me OR was Ilya S. actually the good guy! While Sam is the likable Ted Bundy whom will be our destruction. Everything I've read and viewed suggest so. idk
@@2kt2000 From what I read before, Ilya S. went under his back to try and fire him but as soon as the jig was up he obviously tried to save face. My guess is Sam will have him close by with a watchful eye( more like a Judas Iscariot who got caught trying to sell Sam out). I totally agree, Sam is 100% a sociopath, something about him bugs me out in a similar way to Zuck.
@@augustortiz I know that bro...that portion is all over the news. My point is that Ilya cared about the dangers and Altman cares about profits, to our detriment. Sam seems to believe that just because he warns us, he can still push forward with his profit grab by blessing us with conveniences before we implode. However Ilya seems to be of the mindset that if mankind is at HIGH risk we need to proceed with that being the focus. We live in a culture of personalities and Sam is winning vs Ilya...though logically Ilya has our survival in mind first and foremost. respectable concept if ya ask me lol. If he were as likable or dynamic as Sam it'd be a fair battle. .he's not. I like Sam too lol. But damn it must be a serious risk for them to try to ax the poster child. Major.
Soooo for once the board of directors was thinking about ethics first and money second and everybody banded together to get this board dismissed and replaced with one who is going to be money first? And people are rejoicing???
I have same concern. I love Sam and the team but we might not be routing for the 'good guys' here..
@@suyashshandilya9891 What concerns me most is Ilya being out of the picture...
It's because the employees probably have in their contracts some kind of stock benefit, so if the company realizes its full valuation each of the employees could earn millions. Without Sam, the valuation of the company would tank.
Rumor is, Toner was very willing to burn OpenAI down just to get into some deal with Anthropic
Second rumor is one of the board members (who owns Poe) initially got salty about the release of GPTs. Poe took years of research, only for OpenAI to release GPTs out of the blue.
This channel on CZcams is an absolute essential! I've never once skipped an episode-it's pure gold. Your content is top-notch, dude! Keep crushing it with your phenomenal work!
Finally a content creator that puts the name of the song playing at the end! A big thank you from all of those who just like me are attentive to music everywhere and at all times.
Nowadays, you even hear crazy instrumentals and beats in the background of random videos everywhere or as opening/closing credits like here, nothing more frustrating in my book than not being able to identify them! Keep it up Dagogo! Cheers
EDIT: Oh it is YOUR music even?? That's crazy! Quick question though, at the end of this vid, you write Burn Water - Honesty, but I can only find Being Honest? What's up with that? At any rate, the instrumental and vocals on Being Honest are ON POINT.
He uploads music on the channel @ColdFusionmusic
It's really creepy how devoted tech employees are to people who will inevitably replace them with a lower cost option.
Ignorance is bliss..
This comment is ignorance. Maybe the employees want to be replaced? Or maybe they know him better than you do. It's creepy how many upvotes this got.
It's the tech bro cult of personality. Elon Musk still has millions of devoted followers, despite clearly having the emotional intelligence of a teenager, openly admitting to making "Hyperloop" just to sabotage a public transit project, being disrespected by everyone close to him, and using pageantry of "free speech" to defend his 4chan-inspired racist conspiracy theories.
People like having leaders they can rely on to deal with the "hard questions". At least Sam's halfway reasonable
The technology is not the problem. A world in which goods can be produced without work could be amazing. The problem is that AI would consolidate economic ownership to a few companies, while the rest of us have no stake.
Or replace them with the very "AI" they helped to create. I honestly find it rather schadenfreude-ish.
The truth is madder than fiction...Thanks for Cold Fusion to bring this out as usual
Truth is stranger than fiction, at least quote it right
The only explanation is that ChatGPT has achieved Artificial General Intelligence (human level) and self consciousness …. and did not tell the Board on time …. only reason I can think of …
@@Pooki2024 have you heard the song called Verdansk by Dave? I'm quoting him soooo...At least you tried
@@paulkaddu5192 I Don’t listen to gay music
@@Pooki2024 so original.. So clever.. Don't burn the last of your two brain cells coming up with another response
I've been following this story closely but when I saw your video I knew I wanted to hear your take. You're too good dagogo!
Both institutions and individuals are basically destined to be fully into AMS79X because the biggest of them all, a giant tech giant, made it and the reality is now stronger than ever. It wont ever be as cheap too
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wtf is this
Great to see stability in the world's leading AI and tech companies. I can go to sleep at night knowing the future is in good hands
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I love seeing money flood into people with no clearly functioning product and a ton of wildly grandiose claims. Especially in a time full of tech based scam companies.
This is definitely not a fly by night operation trying to hype a minor data search tool as the next iPhone just to make some money. It's just a sign of professionals trying to keep us filthy rabble safe from the totally amazing tech these guys 100% actually have.
Yep, SkyNet isn’t going to show up at all…
wishful thinking
Can't wait for them to release Microsoft Skynet.
I think both Mcrsft and Sam knew they needed to get rid of the non-profit board power. Either by starting a new AI venture or changing the current one. And they found how…
I wouldn't go and celebrate this outcome. This is just one step closer to microsoft gaining complete control of the AI industry. Nobody wants that.
Microsoft just announced massive investment in my country's technology infrastructure, to build the back bone of a ai here... yay
Steve jobs be like : I'll be joining the game soon.😂
@@n00bc0de7microsoft has the infrastructure, technology, and money to help create an incredible tool. I dont see Microsoft as bad/greedy as other technology companies. Microsoft wasnt selling your data to ad companies. They made money off software.
Early this year, Microsoft invested $10 billion into OpenAI. That's the moment when you realize the "humanity first" is far gone.
Wow these Cold Fusion documentaries, already great, are getting better and better! The information content was so dense in this one that I had to replay it many times... Whew!
this was the death of openai and the birth of Microsoft's openai. Larry summers is a great pick for this openly corporate direction without any pretense of non profit organization or agi safety.
The news were so confusing, so i looked for a tldr video and am glad i found it here. Thank you ❤
Hilarious that an M$ subsidiary (effectively) doesn't even use M$ Teams but the rival's product, Google Meet.
Even they know most MS products are shit LOL.
MS teams sucks for real. So is MS outlook. I've used both on work, and Google's suite is just better. Gmail trumps Outlook, like how Meet trumps MS teams
I knew that you'll make a video for this event, but didn't expect it to be this fast, great work as always man!
I've been waiting for you to cover this situation! You never disappoint!!
Some months ago, I read on a news site that some drone operator on the US army was killed by a predator drone that was flying on the skies ahead of him, this drone was using some kind of AI, the "intelligence" judged the operator the weak point on the chain of command, and the decision was to "terminate" the human from decision making, so the "intelligence" armed an hellfire missile on this drone that killed the human operator, this was maybe, one of the first humans to be killed by a command of an artificial intelligence, and i doubt it will be the last. On the Guardian: "The US air force has denied it has conducted an AI simulation in which a drone decided to “kill” its operator to prevent it from interfering with its efforts to achieve its mission.
An official said last month that in a virtual test staged by the US military, an air force drone controlled by AI had used “highly unexpected strategies to achieve its goal”."
Say didn’t they make a movie like that? 2001 something?
I actually searched for it on your channel since you're my favorite source for stuff like that on CZcams. I'm glad you made it ❤
Basically, the founders who wanted to benefit mankind and tried a coup, but every employee of OpenAI knows the potential sale value on the near horizon. Sam is ALL about the money, so I can't see how this can possibly go wrong ;-)
Is it just me OR was Ilya S. actually the good guy! While Sam is the likable Ted Bundy whom will be our destruction. Everything I've read and viewed suggest so. idk
For a brief moment we are going to generate a very high value for our shareholders. And it would be glorious! So shall be the subsequent fall too!
tbf for them, it's very hard to go for "humanity first" route, the moment Microsoft money pours in.
@@hoangle2483why did this species die out? Oh, the usual…
short answer is Israeli Power in the US, people need to wake up and see what jews are really doing to their country! Israeli power is so overwhelming in the US and AI is the biggest threat to this powerful hidden control over a big country like the united states. So, this decision was just a threat to Sam that they are in control and can fire him at anytime if he goes against their will.. no wonder the decision came from Ilya who is Israeli dual national
Can’t wait for the Netflix deep dive in what actually happened. Thanks for the great video as always my friend!
A great inquest as usual. Thanks for bringing the story out this way (open) and shedding more light into it.
Thanks for putting this together. I saw a lot of other similar videos popping up, but only clicked on yours, as I find your channel always really reliable as information source :)
this shows that value and goal of a company is just a fasade. Ultimately its the money, where the company(which is just group of people) lays its eye on.
Yeah, for being called "OpenAI", they're extremely closed.
It's all 'bout the money
It's all 'bout the dum dum da da dum dum…
@@menen3804damn a meja reference in 2023?
this might be one! reason but theres another one that comes from game theory and the importance of agi and the potential threat. Agi is potentially incredibly dangerous... if the leaks are true, Q* has managed to learn math and crack a 128 bit cryptokey. That would be devastating for the security of the world...
Without gigantic investments, Open ai will not be able to reach AGI quickly and other players will beat them to it. Such a powerful tool in enemy military hands, for example, would be a nightmare. in that case, it is rational to engage in commerce to get ahead of the enemy. with the best of intentions, rational and compelling...
Just like the invention of the atomic bomb.
*Façade
I thought this was about 5 years away too but then again this tech has a way of improving exponentially.
Thank you I was waiting for your take on this. and as expected you delivered. Watching this space.
The irony here is that the AI probably wouldn't have made the same decision as the board; which raises interesting questions about data biases and overt model curation.
No sensible businessmen would’ve made the same decision either, the board was too deep into effective altruism.
Also to add on, I think effective altruism would be disastrous for US technology firms, due to how the Chinese don’t care and don’t indulge themselves in that sort of philosophy.
AI would have removed him for making a non profit for profit
@@jet0802that philosophy is a scam so it makes sense no other nations adopted it.
AI would have said to fire the CEOh of MacroSofta. Cause it's stupid scam that doesn't work.
My guess is that something big is about to happen, they wouldn’t disagree this bad on the little things.
i had similar thoughts upon learning of the boards very vaguely stated reasons for firing him. reads like "uh, we can't actually say"
I’m with you, something big is happening
I'm sorry, but Duh!
Sam might be the Ultimate villain all along,
he didn't have a good moral, often changing his word his promise, like chaning from non-profit to for-profit,
even let openAI get controlled by microsoft.
also he did a lot of unethical stuff.
pushing AI to everyone too soon, when nobody even figured out the future implication yet.
even Geoffrey Hinton the godfather of AI left his job to warn people about the danger of AI.
just like how Einstein regret his development of Atomic Bomb
yet people undermine the implication of the AI because they had been bribed with free AI Generator
short answer is Israeli Power in the US, people need to wake up and see what jews are really doing to their country! Israeli power is so overwhelming in the US and AI is the biggest threat to this powerful hidden control over a big country like the united states. So, this decision was just a threat to Sam that they are in control and can fire him at anytime if he goes against their will.. no wonder the decision came from Ilya who is Israeli dual national
This is the video I’ve been waiting for since the saga began. Thanks for delivering 👏🏽
Great summary of what happened. Well done.
It's always delighful to hear your voice explaining such events. This channel is gold.
Try reading. Just a thought.
Maybe Sam having his eyes closed on the AI Safety Summit picture at 14:23 is trying to tell us something
Excellent video! I look forward to the follow up on this story.
The Board to Ilya: Hold on, this whole operation was your idea
As soon as you look at the valuation if the company is floated "for profit" and Microsoft has £13 billion invested you know the old adage "follow the money" is the real truth, the split and who gets what is what the core dispute was about.
Was expected to have this out sooner as you have produced so many and so soon for all AI businesses, but seems like you have made the right decision as this saga is far from over. Keep up the good work!
He was probably waiting to see if we can have more information
I feel like the possibility of the team actually finding a breakthrough for AGI is near zero. Everyone’s test for it is so sensitive, that we will get a lot of false positives. This could be seen as a good thing, but I think the need for a better test is essential. I don’t even think we have a good idea of what such a test would even look like. And I agree that they can’t have these rumors swimming around and not say anything. The longer they go without an official story, the more likely it is for people to fill in the blank. Nobody can afford for that to happen, not OpenAI and not the rest of the world.
I swear to god cold fusion has the coolest and best intro...for some reason it brings out the nostalgia in me.
There’s a piece of the timeline I see consistently being missed : Elon pledged a billion when he was with open AI, gave 100 millions of said billion, wanted to be ceo, and left when he was rejected. There was now a 900 million dollar hole - THEN the for profit arm was opened
Elon didn't leave because of the for profit decision, but because of the closed-source decision. Elon wanted Open Source from the get-go. Had they done that he'd have put more than a billion in eventually.
Who cares about Musk when AGI was achieved internally
@@RestrocketElon > AGI.
Lmao thats such an Elon thing to do 😂
Seems like Sam Altman is the Norman Osborne of open Ai.
Thank you for the summation and the three possibilities. This was a great article.
Machine intelligence is a lot like practical fusion power; it's only a few years away no matter how many decades they've been working on it.
Completely unlike railguns…
Though in this case I'll be happier if it keeps being that way
ColdFusion Never disappoints 🎉
Fyi... I guess the secret behind Qwest is that it was capable of teaching itself chilren's math. The fear is as it gets smarter and better at math, it's going to break all encryption algoeithms we rely on causing chaos.
Why did it redistribute all funding on Earth?!
Well, it got into a website of religious texts…
Finally!
I’d been waiting for ColdFusion’s video on this drama. Good stuff ✅
As a guy who works in the software industry on the PM side of things, it's only a few more years before I'm replaced by AI. At the end of the day this is all for profit, whether it's is directly for OpenAI or their corporate clients.
I wish the best for ya mate, depending on your skills there'd definetly be companies looking for good people so job security hopefully won't be too rough
@@spuffles2104 thanks. I'll be fine. I started my career in the financial industry and slowly shifted over to SaaS so I have some versatility in my experience and resume I can fallback on. I also don't have kids so it all affects me and me only. I feel it for people who have a wife and kids in a major city like SF or NYC with high COL and having their tech job eliminated by AI.
Profit motivated individuals have won (so far) only time will tell if this was the right outcome. (I personally think not but I have been wrong many times before, and I hope I am wrong this time as well.)
If Q* is really about AGI then it's funny how OpenAI says they are "Pioneering the research and steps taken towards AGI" but then the researchers themselves are worried about a massive breakthrough that could "threaten humanity". Like, they are scared about the very thing they are trying to research and make progress on? But then again, it's all speculation in the end.
"they are scared about the very thing they are trying to research"
There is a difference between pursuing something within the proper guidelines and safety measures, and going whole hog and knocking all the guard rails off for the money's sake.
They're scared in the sense that they don't wanna fuck it up. Everyone wants to make Jarvis, R2-D2 or WALL-E - you know, examples of good or helpful AGIs - not Skynet. Of course, you're going to tread carefully.
Being scared doesn't mean you should not try. If humanity didn't try, we wouldn't be where we are today
Good to know the researchers aren’t preoccupied with whether or not they could, and actually stopped (or at least tried to stop) to think if they should.
@@roxdboxif all comes to worst, we know they at least tried. GG WP to them
Maybe it’s called Q* because their attempt at AGI turned into a conspiracy theorist lunatic.
Great content as always
Been long waiting for your video on this issue
The board's disagreement with Sam Altman likely stemmed from their opposing views on the potential of Q* and its implications for AGI development. Altman's belief in Q* as a breakthrough towards AGI may have contrasted with the board's more cautious stance, leading to a significant rift.
short answer is Israeli Power in the US, people need to wake up and see what jews are really doing to their country! Israeli power is so overwhelming in the US and AI is the biggest threat to this powerful hidden control over a big country like the united states. So, this decision was just a threat to Sam that they are in control and can fire him at anytime if he goes against their will.. no wonder the decision came from Ilya who is Israeli dual national
The circumstantial evidence certainly seems to suggest that the board was erring on the side of caution, accordingly with the original intent of OpenAI, and Altman is dominantly committed to profit, and somewhat incautious in his approach. Since it is all rather murky, we can't know that we have the read right, but obviously regulation is sorely needed, whether or not this is the warning volley it appears it may be. Assuming all is well with such lack of clarity is obviously unwise.
Really great video! 👍🏻
This would make a great thriller film where AGI had almost taken over the planet except for the courageous efforts of board members who disagreed about what should be done to contain the threat. (now heading over to GPT4 to write the screen play).
If I had a nickel for every Sam something-man who got implicated in a major tech scandal, I'd have... Two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
Was thinking the same thing 😂
@@cesz1 ATOMIC THRONE
Never trust a guy named Sam ____man.
What's the other one?
Really rustled my jimmies.
And these are the people deciding what AI will do in the future? We’re doomed.
Another good summary vid, thanks mate !
The fact they haven't refuted the Reuters letter in any way is incredibly damning. If this doesn't happen soon I think the technology to break encryption (Q*) will be 'acquired' by the government, one way or another. After all a model is just a large file of weights.
Lowkey... If I started a company like OpenAI, and one day I was invited to a zoom call with a bunch of board members who were trying to fire me, I probably would end up in jail for what I would have said and done next
The board and structure was chosen by the founders.
Honestly, this story, which would make an incredible film by the way, just makes Sam Altman seem almost god-like in a way. Or like some modern mythic hero. The way he rose this company from the ground to the stratosphere in less than a year, before being deeply and suddenly betrayed by those closest to his seat of power, and how he then convinced nearly every "fellow countryman" to join his side, including his Brutus/Judas, within like 3 days. He's like the Julius Caesar of the corporate world.
Made my day 😂
I was just waiting for this. Thanks Dagogo
Very well done as always!
I just love how people freak out about AGI as if its the next nuclear bomb yet AI is just some fancy program on some computer and the existing AIs already beat most people at most tasks.
That is a naive way to look at it. For example what if the 'bad people' don't JUST "flip the switch" and instead use it as a weapon or something thinking they can control it. But once it is out there it is out there and could do who knows what to our systems and as a consequence make chaos on a global scale. Our inability to imagine what can potentially happen is our biggest problem. Humans are bad at long term planning and thinking, but AI will be good at it, and it may guide us to do what it wants by manipulation etc. You dont have to hack the system, you just hack the user and you are in. Much easier. Im sure there will be groups of people who will want AI to succeed and who will try to protect it. We were also thinking we had control with nuclear energy, and look how many nuclear incidents happened all over the world. When you mess with something that you don't fully understand or can control you will get burned, its is just a question of how much.
@@predator0010 Ai is limited to running in massive data centers and since the cold war we have weapons that can wipe out any target we point them at so even if someone would somehow invent a way to use ai as a weapon its one cruise missile away from getting destroyed.
Now palki sharma is international..really happy to see her grow as an international news star..
I was waiting for your video on this topic
This company board meeting drama is so crazy they can honestly make a movie out of it.
From what's been leaked about Q* it sounds more like an incremental improvement, which makes it all the more wild how they reacted
I completely agree. Why would an amazing breakthrough with Q* be deemed a threat to humanity? I don't get it. And why did OpenAI say that it was an actual option to close down the whole company after the discovery of this threat? I think they should be more open with the world about what's going on. Not because I'm worried, but more because I find it interesting to see the process of trial and error and what's being done to better things.
@@lis7742 Same here.. is everyone blinded by science fiction? It has been demonstrated that current algorithms are not 'intelligent'. It's just a tool which is almost useless in it's current state. To make it 'intelligent' would require radically different approaches (hardware and software) along with new algorithms. I personally don't think it's going to happen with binary computers.
Finally, a definitive explanation 🍿🍿
You were joking right?
@@yayaya6799 I never joke about popcorn
@@Hardwareaibased
sounds like the video was scripted by Chap TGP
Thank you so much. Great effort and video.
great video as always, thanks Dagogo
You call General AI the “Holy Grail” but its gonna be more like Pandora’s Box
AGI in a humanoid bot coming soon 🌀. What a time to be alive.
Not sure whether 'humanoid bot' means a physical robot. I'm not sure why people worry about physical robots in the AI safety conversation. An artificial superintelligence could be confined to a box and still end everything.
Great video, thank you. Excited for what's next
Interesting! Thanks for sharing it. ✌️
AI Explained has a great video on Q*. It's the best one I've seen so far. You might want to check that out because it seems like the best reason why Sam was fired.
Just my opinion but not as many jobs are at threat in the future as some say. Human judgement is still important in all industry. I would recommend that people should learn more about the technology they use in their industries. AI will eventually be built into every tool we use and being as knowable as possible about the tools will keep you on top of AI in the job place.
As with anything, there will be winners and losers. More losers than winners, but the winners will win bigger than ever. Overall, it's a loss for humanity because it's not going to help everybody equally - which further erodes our values and ethics.
artists said the same few years back.
I love the fact that Sam has his eyes shut at the AI Safety Summit photo at 14:22
I’ve been waiting for this one! Cheers! 🎉
I think that Sam orchestrated the situation to gain exactly what he wanted.
No, because he would need to bring everyone in on the conspiracy, and with that many people someone would leak.
Q* orchestraded this situation and now controla the company but importantlt compute and the off switch
@@Restrocket WTF?
How about proofreading before hitting Reply
This just happened to me. On october 22nd of last month, I saw a 10 min meeting scheduled with my manager at a big company. I had been avoiding speaking to him because he has the temperament of an elon but with none of the intelligence. I told him I missed morning standup because I was at the police station filing a police report. I had been robbed the night before by a group of criminals. He responded by telling me I was fired. I was shocked.
“Why?”
“Budgetary reasons.”
“Are you serious? You just hired 2 new contractors.”
“We decided to move in a different direction,” he intoned monotonously.
I paused. He did not have a real justification. I hated him.
He was objectively unqualified to be “sr executive director of software engineering”, and yet somehow he floated into an upper middle management position at a big company in corporate america on account of his degree from USC in poly sci or whatever. In 3 years time, I saw him denigrate and fire every contractor whom worked for him. I was simply the latest. I am now trying to put my life back together, scrambling for remote jobs in during a recession in the tech industry.
Someone who is that level of fool is someone you don't want to be around anyway. In my experience people like that most often crash and burn and take their companies down with them. You are better off getting away earlier than later.
Christ...
That's would shake and disorient anybody so apologies and all the best in seeking employment. Your skills and experience add your assests and hopefully you'll regain your balance soon.All the best. Ps: It may not seem like it now but you dodged a bullet working with someone as unstable as your former boss... You'll be fine inshaAllah (God Willing).. Have a great life 😊
Sorry this happened to you. I have worked for 3 fortune 50 companies and have seen alot of BS. Something i hate the most is how they widdle these teams down, then when their is a promotion or management job available, they will bring in an outside hire that has zero idea whats going on.
I was fired once cause my co worker was a looser, and had zero IT skills. After working with him for a month, and trying to fogure out how the hell he got the job, i found out that his older brother, was in a relationship with my boss. And my boss, was a groomsman in his wedding. Totally weird. About a week or two after finding out i was abruptly fired. Luckily my original boss from same company took me back at my lower position, for same pay. So i went back to my old job, searched for a better job, and moved on. But it was gut wrenching to get fired for something not performance based.
Great summation Dagogo, thank you
OpenAI's recent developments have sparked a surge of interest, even among those of us who typically pay little attention to such news.
I am rooting for the discovery of AGI, although I am quite skeptical if it will happen this early. I was expecting to see some ground breaking discovery within the latter half of this decade. If it happened this early, hooray, I guess.
However, I do not like the idea of Microsoft having control over OpenAI. Too few companies have too many control over a lot of the market.
Microsoft is your best bet for control of the technology by someone who is not a servant of a brutal dictatorship, speaks Mandarin, and blocks any mention of Winnie The Poo.
Very crazy. Seems accurate to suggest the board’s imprudent power play was the work of fear and a lack of awareness of Sam’s popularity. Maybe the board was “right” but they’ve shown us nothing. So it seems good they are the ones who were ousted.
The speculations over Q* algorithm adds new mysteries and easy to imagine AI using system 2 thinking (trust but verify) to create new training data from GPT output for new LLM training data offers potential further and unlimited exponential advances.
Thanks for the in depth analysis!!
Hi
Can anyone tell what is the soundtrack at 10:35 please
Thanks
I'm marginally aware of what advancement they arrived at, and it's exciting. I expect Sam to be on the side of 'right', but I wonder. The whole drama could be about how to best make money, and the board may have either gotten rid of Sam over his lack of interest in that, or it could be he was the one interested in making the money. IDK.
I/We can only hope that Sam has our interests in order.