The Nebraska supercharging rate structure is confusing. It is not presented in the typical price per KwH format. Rather, the price varies charging speed. That price range that showed up on your screen varies based on charging speed…so the higher rate when the charging is much faster (usually lower battery state of charge) and it gets cheaper by the minute as the charging slows down. The rates at those Nebraska superchargers don’t vary by time of day…that chart just indicates how busy the supercharger is by hour.
Thanks. I noticed that too when editing. Probably should have put a disclaimer below. Funny how so many states have different ways they charge for electricity. Appreciate the comment 👍
I feel like estimated arrival % is still getting the bugs worked out of it. It's more complex of a calculation for the car now (not just miles and altitude, like in 2019) - miles, altitude, weather, wind, traffic. I was hoping your trip would should a closer relationship between change in arrival % and Wh/mi used. I know I always add in a few % for my "driving dynamics". Looking forward to seeing more MN and that area of the country as you enjoy your summer. Are you heading to Canada? If you're thinking of Canadian trips, are you planning to go to Banff? I want to head back there and hike to the teahouses again!
Agree. No trips to Canada planned although I've loved to at some point. Definitely interested in the Western side. I'll definitely have quite a few trips coming up around MN, WI and MI. Those will start after a few videos from my recent trip to Europe. Thanks for watching and hope all is well with you 😀
@@bryanhauer Forgot to ask if you ever watch the green Energy app in on the display 📉. I use that on long stretches to see where the elevation gains and losses are, and if there are several losses, I charge more. It also tells you where you're losing % (weather, speed, etc.). I don't see other Tesla roadtrip videos highlighting this tool so maybe you can play around with it and see if it gives you any insights into why the projected arrival % is different from the actual (if you haven't do so already "offscreen").
Is it normal for BFE stations to charge per minute instead of kWh? Over on the Best Coast, haven't seen that here. I noticed it at the first charging stop you were at.
I haven't seen it often either and I've traveled all over. I didn't actually notice it until editing. I probably should have put a note underneath clarifying. Apparently according to another comment, it's a Nebraska thing.
Very true! I've found very rural areas are still priced decently, but yeah, anywhere near major cities is getting pricey. Luckily at home I can charge for around $0.11/kWh 👍🏻 At my new home, it'll be completely off-grid so free (outside of the initial investment of course.)
There's two ways to check... The Plugshare app and/or you can use the screen on your Tesla by tapping to view all Superchargers then tapping the lightning bolt for Level 1, 2 or 3. If you tap for level 1, you'll see the Tesla Destination Chargers like the one I used at the hotel. It will usually only show Tesla Destination Chargers and not 3rd party options so I usually cross reference it with the Plugshare App. Hope that helps 😀
If you start charging at a destination charger over night would you wake up in the middle of the night to move it off the charger or you would leave it on the charger?
I would always move. I've set my alarm many times (including this time) to make sure I move as soon as it's complete even if that means it's middle of the night. With limited supply of destination chargers at most locations it's the right thing to do. I've pulled in late at night many times and saw people just leave them even though you could tell it had completed charging at the charging port. Then 7 hours later when I leave, they're still parked there and that can be super frustrating. I don't see it often, but it's a pretty selfish thing to do.
@@bryanhauer Good to know. I’ll be joining the Tesla club this month and want to learn the nuances of road tripping and such. This makes sense to be courteous. Thank you for the explanation!
The Tesla app will send you an alert when charging is about 5 minutes from completing whatever limit you set. If it says 4 hours to say complete, I’ll just set an alarm on my phone so I can move it 👍
Did you watch the video? I have a rear cargo box so have every right to use a pull in. Pulling in makes it much easier, but if you also noticed most of the Superchargers were empty and I’ve also talked about previously that if someone did show up towing I’d move for them in a heartbeat. Edit: I'm going to follow up with this... those spots are priority for anyone towing, using a rear hitch bike rack or rear hitch cargo box. I will also say I have traveled all over the US and charged at probably 500+ Superchargers and I probably see 1 person towing for every 100 times I've Supercharged. Again, in these cases the whole Supercharger location was basically empty and I was the only person charging there so in the out of this universe chance someone did pull up towing, because I can fit (albeit it's a bit more challenging) I'd move for them. It is however more convenient to just pull in when you have something on your hitch like I did. This is also a problem Tesla created on their own by the poor design of most Supercharger locations. Now with the introduction of the Cybertruck and opening of Superchargers to Rivian, Ford, Chevy trucks etc... you're going to have a lot of people having to disconnect the hitch anyways as they can't leave their trailer blocking the entire lane. Gas stations got it right with their design... easy pull in regardless of which side you use to fuel/charge up, covered and ideally should use solar arrays as the roof to cover.
Hi Bryan , do you ask best western if you could use their destination charger or you just plug in and go to your La Quinta reservation . For some reason I thought you had to stay at their hotel .
On Plugshare and I believe Tesla it stated it was open to the public. Didn't matter if it was for someone using the restaurant nearby, or one of the many nearby hotels. It will usually say "See front desk" if it's only for that hotel. Even then it's sometimes ok or they'll charge you a small amount. In this case they shared a parking lot and of course I moved as soon as charging was complete as to not take up the space and others could use 👍🏻
Yep. I use a different one now though which works great: VION Roof Sunshades for Model Y/3 (Use Discount Code BRYANHAUER to save 10%): www.vion.parts/?ref=bryanhauer
I too am waiting for the Model Y refresh, but I can assure you, it won't have anywhere close to 500 miles range. It might have a small bump, but nothing like that. There's no technology currently available that would produce that much of a gain year over year in the space they have. I mean the Cybetruck that was supposed to get over 500 miles range and currently states a 340 mile range, really only actually gets around 250 miles of actual usable real world range. Even the Chevy Silverado RST EV packs a giant 213 kWh battery only gets 440 miles per charge (which is best in class currently.) I think the other upgrades that we've recently seen in the Model 3 refresh are still a great reason to wait for the new Model Y, but unfortunately I don't think we'll see much of a range boost. Appreciate the comment 😀
I think i want Bryan's Spotify playlist 🍻
When I visit my mom in Missouri I stop at the Shelby Supercharger. It’s a nice little facility.
those tiny homes @8:47 looked cool. I-80 is a monster road. Mostly corn. Thx for the video. I enjoyed watching.
You need to drop your Spotify playlist 👌🏼
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the other Supercharger in Lincoln is a 250 I think? and has a Runza!
Dows Iowa has a nice Tesla charging spot also. Right along I-35 before Clear Lake, Iowa. Used to live up there.
Thanks for the video, Bryan!!!
Thanks for watching!
I hope the weather improves!
I believe the owners of the hotel in Ogalalla are Tesla drivers.
Under 300kw/mile is good since you have the cargo box on the back. Those superchargers on I-80 are old and slow
Very true 👍🏻 Definitely a lot more efficient than when I had the rooftop box.
The Nebraska supercharging rate structure is confusing. It is not presented in the typical price per KwH format. Rather, the price varies charging speed. That price range that showed up on your screen varies based on charging speed…so the higher rate when the charging is much faster (usually lower battery state of charge) and it gets cheaper by the minute as the charging slows down.
The rates at those Nebraska superchargers don’t vary by time of day…that chart just indicates how busy the supercharger is by hour.
Thanks. I noticed that too when editing. Probably should have put a disclaimer below. Funny how so many states have different ways they charge for electricity. Appreciate the comment 👍
I feel like estimated arrival % is still getting the bugs worked out of it. It's more complex of a calculation for the car now (not just miles and altitude, like in 2019) - miles, altitude, weather, wind, traffic. I was hoping your trip would should a closer relationship between change in arrival % and Wh/mi used. I know I always add in a few % for my "driving dynamics". Looking forward to seeing more MN and that area of the country as you enjoy your summer. Are you heading to Canada? If you're thinking of Canadian trips, are you planning to go to Banff? I want to head back there and hike to the teahouses again!
Agree. No trips to Canada planned although I've loved to at some point. Definitely interested in the Western side. I'll definitely have quite a few trips coming up around MN, WI and MI. Those will start after a few videos from my recent trip to Europe. Thanks for watching and hope all is well with you 😀
@@bryanhauer Forgot to ask if you ever watch the green Energy app in on the display 📉. I use that on long stretches to see where the elevation gains and losses are, and if there are several losses, I charge more. It also tells you where you're losing % (weather, speed, etc.). I don't see other Tesla roadtrip videos highlighting this tool so maybe you can play around with it and see if it gives you any insights into why the projected arrival % is different from the actual (if you haven't do so already "offscreen").
Do the Tesla destination chargers show up on the Tesla screen? I guess that I have not used one of those. Hilton hotels are installing them I guess.
Yep, just tap the one lightning bolt ⚡️ instead addition to the two and three. I also check the app Plugshare.
I keep ahold of my P85D because of the free charging. It’s just so slow to change though
How many kW does it top out at?
@@bryanhauer 119 and for a few seconds unfortunately
Oh yeah, that could make for some long charging sessions.
Is it normal for BFE stations to charge per minute instead of kWh? Over on the Best Coast, haven't seen that here. I noticed it at the first charging stop you were at.
I haven't seen it often either and I've traveled all over. I didn't actually notice it until editing. I probably should have put a note underneath clarifying. Apparently according to another comment, it's a Nebraska thing.
@@bryanhauer Sounds like something Nebraska would do lol
You must have hit 50k miles by now. Hope you got all the warranty work completed before!
Haven't had one issue luckily 🤞🏻 I'll be trading it in for a new one within 6 months, likely sooner.
Charging on the roadtrips can be expensive unless one drives at night. At night one has to be aware of the area because some are sketchy.
Very true! I've found very rural areas are still priced decently, but yeah, anywhere near major cities is getting pricey. Luckily at home I can charge for around $0.11/kWh 👍🏻 At my new home, it'll be completely off-grid so free (outside of the initial investment of course.)
How did you figure out there was a charger at the other hotel? is there an app you use to identify such chargers? Thanks!
There's two ways to check... The Plugshare app and/or you can use the screen on your Tesla by tapping to view all Superchargers then tapping the lightning bolt for Level 1, 2 or 3. If you tap for level 1, you'll see the Tesla Destination Chargers like the one I used at the hotel. It will usually only show Tesla Destination Chargers and not 3rd party options so I usually cross reference it with the Plugshare App. Hope that helps 😀
@@bryanhauer thank you Bryan!
If you start charging at a destination charger over night would you wake up in the middle of the night to move it off the charger or you would leave it on the charger?
I would always move. I've set my alarm many times (including this time) to make sure I move as soon as it's complete even if that means it's middle of the night. With limited supply of destination chargers at most locations it's the right thing to do. I've pulled in late at night many times and saw people just leave them even though you could tell it had completed charging at the charging port. Then 7 hours later when I leave, they're still parked there and that can be super frustrating. I don't see it often, but it's a pretty selfish thing to do.
@@bryanhauer Good to know. I’ll be joining the Tesla club this month and want to learn the nuances of road tripping and such. This makes sense to be courteous. Thank you for the explanation!
The Tesla app will send you an alert when charging is about 5 minutes from completing whatever limit you set. If it says 4 hours to say complete, I’ll just set an alarm on my phone so I can move it 👍
I noticed you used the pull in slot when changing….doesn’t etiquette dictate one should avoid if possible…for those pulling a boat or trailer ?
Did you watch the video? I have a rear cargo box so have every right to use a pull in. Pulling in makes it much easier, but if you also noticed most of the Superchargers were empty and I’ve also talked about previously that if someone did show up towing I’d move for them in a heartbeat.
Edit: I'm going to follow up with this... those spots are priority for anyone towing, using a rear hitch bike rack or rear hitch cargo box. I will also say I have traveled all over the US and charged at probably 500+ Superchargers and I probably see 1 person towing for every 100 times I've Supercharged. Again, in these cases the whole Supercharger location was basically empty and I was the only person charging there so in the out of this universe chance someone did pull up towing, because I can fit (albeit it's a bit more challenging) I'd move for them. It is however more convenient to just pull in when you have something on your hitch like I did.
This is also a problem Tesla created on their own by the poor design of most Supercharger locations. Now with the introduction of the Cybertruck and opening of Superchargers to Rivian, Ford, Chevy trucks etc... you're going to have a lot of people having to disconnect the hitch anyways as they can't leave their trailer blocking the entire lane. Gas stations got it right with their design... easy pull in regardless of which side you use to fuel/charge up, covered and ideally should use solar arrays as the roof to cover.
Got it 👍👍
Hi Bryan , do you ask best western if you could use their destination charger or you just plug in and go to your La Quinta reservation .
For some reason I thought you had to stay at their hotel .
On Plugshare and I believe Tesla it stated it was open to the public. Didn't matter if it was for someone using the restaurant nearby, or one of the many nearby hotels. It will usually say "See front desk" if it's only for that hotel. Even then it's sometimes ok or they'll charge you a small amount. In this case they shared a parking lot and of course I moved as soon as charging was complete as to not take up the space and others could use 👍🏻
Not to pry, but you keep saying “we”. Do it you have someone with you?
Haha! Nope, Probably just mean me and you (the audience.” 😀
Is that a roof shade you’re using in this video? Do you use it all the time now? Which brand and does it sag?
Yep. I use a different one now though which works great: VION Roof Sunshades for Model Y/3 (Use Discount Code BRYANHAUER to save 10%): www.vion.parts/?ref=bryanhauer
Hi Bryan, I just read yesterday that the 2025 Tesla Juniper might get up to 500 miles in range. Is it time to upgrade next year?
I too am waiting for the Model Y refresh, but I can assure you, it won't have anywhere close to 500 miles range. It might have a small bump, but nothing like that. There's no technology currently available that would produce that much of a gain year over year in the space they have. I mean the Cybetruck that was supposed to get over 500 miles range and currently states a 340 mile range, really only actually gets around 250 miles of actual usable real world range. Even the Chevy Silverado RST EV packs a giant 213 kWh battery only gets 440 miles per charge (which is best in class currently.)
I think the other upgrades that we've recently seen in the Model 3 refresh are still a great reason to wait for the new Model Y, but unfortunately I don't think we'll see much of a range boost.
Appreciate the comment 😀
The supercharger rates are not a bargain anymore.