I worked with a same assembly that pushed 20' drill rods in a 25' pit. Was worth $millions. 3" rods that would pull HDPE 200 mm diameter for 60 or 100 metres from pit to pit. Still a great deal of work but we could.never set foot on your land and pass a massive pipe under you without disturbing anyone much. Thrust angles were absolutely vital. And shoves rock right out of the way.
If you are running across a field... there is no need to unscrew the pipes on the return trip. Just push the pipe through to the next pit and move your machine to the next pit... continue to the last pit and then unscrew the pipe. The cable follows the whole way. If you are going that far, I agree, just dig the trench and be done with it.
You need slightly longer rams so you dont have to do the half steps, or slightly shorter sections wiuld work. It would also be wise to add a loop over the top, or holes on either side of the chassis so the unit can be easily lifted and lowered using the mini ex you power it with. Save the manual handling of a heavy piece of equipment.
Lots of small details like you mentioned would be nice. Also, a way to clear between those pipe sections where he had to locate and clear it each time. It probably wasn’t necessary for him to clear it but it was obviously his preference so it’d be nice for the manufacturer to consider that use case
You’re absolutely right, I’m from Ventura county in California, anything in the conejo valley is easy to pull, hardly rocky and if it is, it’s usually gravel type rocky. If it is Rocky, we’ll usually reroute to main sewer and use a liner to repair the rest of the mainline, main reasoning being the one you stated, you get stuck in rocky areas, the machine pulls itself into the wall of the hole.
I live on the side of an esker, so 63 is an understatement. It's just rocks all the way down ranging from like 2 inch ones up to 200 inch ones. You are lucky if you can even burry half a spade before you hit a rock. Digging is a pain, even with an excavator.
used an old model once, inside were a set of grips, you pulled the entire mechanism out and flipped it around, when you pushed it would grab and when you turned it around, it would grab on the reverse because basically you flipped the grabbers around. something like cantilever, the more you pull the harder it would grip. this looks like a nice set up but the manual moving it around would disturb your levels, with the inset grabber, your entire frame stayed in place as you just flipped the grabbers reversed, put the plug on the end and start pulling or attach the water line and pull it back to the outside.
Southern cal. Gas co. Used a tool similar to this. The operator and the person next to him died instantly when they pierced into a 50 thousand volt underground electrical conduit
The first length added should be painted, (red?). When it comes back you'll no the next one is the last one. I suppose counting them works, but humans are visual.
How long ar those joint threads going to last. It only takes one person to not fully thread it. Then it pulls apart on the retract. And no way of retreiving the rods.
The machine cannot drill through hard soil and also the machine has lack of support so the base frame rises from its place as soon as the load starts to increase also it require a big pit to carry out the operation can @roddie inc has any machine that could be used for house hold connection which has less space accumulation and has more strength ?
I bough one a few months ago and I had the same issues with it. I’m still trying to re-sell it. This machine needs more upgrades for it to work well. I probably would recommend purchasing the basement buddy instead of the pipe ram.
hello man can you tell me the name of this machine and how much price where i find it .i need it for some reasons . i enjoyed watching this video you teach me something good .thank you for bring this vidieo to watch . awaiting your reply .REGARDS
Pipe Ram Trenchless Pipe installation system for 25mm to 100mm. Good for Landscapers, electricians, communications and plumbing. This uses 61cm long rods instead of cables, you can use a locator with a sonde to track every move in the ground.
Rocks...roots...hard pan ....water.....clay....oh my Short distances in soft sandy seems ok Leveling kit/stand for rig..? Loops/lugs for lifting..? Sizes ...section lengths...core removal in both pits for sleeve...?
someone tell me how much. i dont want to make contact or else il get asked a million questions, i jstu wawnt to know if i shoudl ivnest the time starting procurement process, or is it hundreds and hundreds of thousands of USD?
Its cheaper to use manual labor in india mate. And itll be faster with less headache prolly cost you like 800 bucks (10 usd ) and 3 hrs with 2 doods Source: im an indian in bihar.
what do you expect from negative people, its just a small tool for going under side walks and driveways when an air mole tool is to big and you don't what to rent or buy a 250 cfm air compressor . selling the shit out of them and that's what there really mad about.
Crappy, inefficient system only good for very limited conditions. Why would I waste money on a product like that which requires that much equipment. A pneumatic mole would be far more efficient and cost effective for small jobs and an HDD better for larger jobs. You can even buy boring drills to mount on a skid steer. No way would you ever see a system like this on a real job. To many better options out there.
@@griznatle I think you under estimate this drill. It's a black and decker hammer drill out of the 80's with the spline drive. I've drilled 8ft long holes with no issue. We routinely use it for drilling 1.25" × 12" holes for dowels on the job. This tool gets used daily for the last 30 years
I worked with a same assembly that pushed 20' drill rods in a 25' pit. Was worth $millions. 3" rods that would pull HDPE 200 mm diameter for 60 or 100 metres from pit to pit. Still a great deal of work but we could.never set foot on your land and pass a massive pipe under you without disturbing anyone much. Thrust angles were absolutely vital. And shoves rock right out of the way.
A less expemsive alternative to a true directional drill, probably best suited for residential/small commercial use in limied spaces.
If you are running across a field... there is no need to unscrew the pipes on the return trip. Just push the pipe through to the next pit and move your machine to the next pit... continue to the last pit and then unscrew the pipe. The cable follows the whole way.
If you are going that far, I agree, just dig the trench and be done with it.
You need slightly longer rams so you dont have to do the half steps, or slightly shorter sections wiuld work. It would also be wise to add a loop over the top, or holes on either side of the chassis so the unit can be easily lifted and lowered using the mini ex you power it with. Save the manual handling of a heavy piece of equipment.
Lots of small details like you mentioned would be nice. Also, a way to clear between those pipe sections where he had to locate and clear it each time. It probably wasn’t necessary for him to clear it but it was obviously his preference so it’d be nice for the manufacturer to consider that use case
Fawkit lift it right by the hose lol jk
What a lovely bit of kit 👌
Nice. 👍👍
It’s a similar version to a pipe bursting machine which pulls a cable through an old existing pipe.
Looks like it works great , except in areas like where I work where we would hit 63 boulders in that distance
You’re absolutely right, I’m from Ventura county in California, anything in the conejo valley is easy to pull, hardly rocky and if it is, it’s usually gravel type rocky. If it is Rocky, we’ll usually reroute to main sewer and use a liner to repair the rest of the mainline, main reasoning being the one you stated, you get stuck in rocky areas, the machine pulls itself into the wall of the hole.
It could push a pipe under a sidewalk, amd that is about it.
well, there is something called C-4
I live on the side of an esker, so 63 is an understatement. It's just rocks all the way down ranging from like 2 inch ones up to 200 inch ones. You are lucky if you can even burry half a spade before you hit a rock. Digging is a pain, even with an excavator.
Or tree roots ?
Eu gostei é uma ferramenta muito bem bolada que adianta e facilita o trabalho parabéns
used an old model once, inside were a set of grips, you pulled the entire mechanism out and flipped it around, when you pushed it would grab and when you turned it around, it would grab on the reverse because basically you flipped the grabbers around. something like cantilever, the more you pull the harder it would grip.
this looks like a nice set up but the manual moving it around would disturb your levels, with the inset grabber, your entire frame stayed in place as you just flipped the grabbers reversed, put the plug on the end and start pulling or attach the water line and pull it back to the outside.
This has changed my life
Pretty slick!!!
Did you get the idea when you were using a log splitter? Nice machine👍
Southern cal. Gas co. Used a tool similar to this. The operator and the person next to him died instantly when they pierced into a 50 thousand volt underground electrical conduit
That's why locates are required before digging and free of charge
@@6181green not always accurate. Use at your own risk
very sorry to hear that!
If I had that excavator I would have had it all done in half the time.
not if there were a side walk or driveway and that what this thing is about, sorry all cant read between the lines for this demo.
And 10 times the mess! Reinstate etc
Impressive rectangular box hole BTW
Rocks, roots, change in the dirt. Will play havoc.
Very cool for getting under sidewalks if you do not have buried boulders everywhere like in my area.
yep
The first length added should be painted, (red?). When it comes back you'll no the next one is the last one. I suppose counting them works, but humans are visual.
the thing for going under roads etc. they have been using them for about 40 years. gotta look for buired electrik etc.
how do you pull the cable the rest of the way now?
How long ar those joint threads going to last. It only takes one person to not fully thread it. Then it pulls apart on the retract. And no way of retreiving the rods.
6 years later , yip we don it covered a full 5 meters 😂😂😂
Grundomat mole is much quicker and hole doesn't need to be as big.
Absolutely
The machine cannot drill through hard soil and also the machine has lack of support so the base frame rises from its place as soon as the load starts to increase also it require a big pit to carry out the operation can @roddie inc has any machine that could be used for house hold connection which has less space accumulation and has more strength ?
I bough one a few months ago and I had the same issues with it. I’m still trying to re-sell it. This machine needs more upgrades for it to work well. I probably would recommend purchasing the basement buddy instead of the pipe ram.
hello man can you tell me the name of this machine and how much price where i find it .i need it for some reasons . i enjoyed watching this video you teach me something good .thank you for bring this vidieo to watch . awaiting your reply .REGARDS
GOOD
Could you do a longer bore next video without an edit where you unscrew 300 ft of pipe?
you need a half-pipe to bring the new pipe out some more.
To bad a machine like this can't work where I live. You can't push that rod more than an inch or two before you hit bolder after bolder.
wait till the find a directional drill its cool tho
why have all the revs on the digger
На сколько метров она делает прокол?
Pipe Ram
Trenchless Pipe installation system for 25mm to 100mm. Good for Landscapers, electricians, communications and plumbing. This uses 61cm long rods instead of cables, you can use a locator with a sonde to track every move in the ground.
@@informer6what about pipe 160mm? Could it use this ram too?
Yup. Boulders would be a problem.
Run a piece of rope through the middle of the rods, then anchor the rope at the other end - tow line for pulling pipe or cable??
The service line is attached to the end of the push rod/pipe and pulled back in reverse.
So this is what Farva meant!? Ram Rod!!!! 😂
Why you put the Wood?
А если камень?😉
a hole this deep dug in Brazil anywhere here would already be flooded with water
Rocks...roots...hard pan ....water.....clay....oh my
Short distances in soft sandy seems ok
Leveling kit/stand for rig..?
Loops/lugs for lifting..?
Sizes ...section lengths...core removal in both pits for sleeve...?
someone tell me how much.
i dont want to make contact or else il get asked a million questions, i jstu wawnt to know if i shoudl ivnest the time starting procurement process, or is it hundreds and hundreds of thousands of USD?
per fakt 👍👍👍
If you shim rod up pipe will drop in ground?
Probably could have edited out most of the rods in the middle and just told us how many it was
Can you deliver this machine in India?
soon it will be in India.....contact info@terragontechno.com
Build one yourself for smal money
Sure seems allot of work compared to a thumper...
I've had a lot of bad luck with missiles lately and it's getting old
Yah, down side of them are the rocks. They are sure not perfect. Then again neither is this method since rocks can deflect it too. @@kawasaki8051
Where from we can buy this machine and what is the machine model
Roddie Inc 888-406-3821
soon it will be in India.....contact info@terragontechno.com
If you would dig deeper where you are standing you could make it a lot easier on your back by not having to bend over so far.
Pneumatic missles >
Are awful. I’m going to replace mine with one of these
Can you provide the existing contact and dealer/distributor number to purchase this product in India.
In India 😂 people there don't pay 😂
In India they use a guy with small shovel to dig a small hole to pass a cable 😂
Its cheaper to use manual labor in india mate.
And itll be faster with less headache prolly cost you like 800 bucks (10 usd ) and 3 hrs with 2 doods
Source: im an indian in bihar.
really damn slow. but does the job well
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стоит экскаватор, а в ручную опускает
That n an easy job in the yard nothing in the way
No problem if it damage a gas line, then you will have a nice hole for a pond 😂
wow, it’s amazing how many negative comments. We’re doomed!
what do you expect from negative people, its just a small tool for going under side walks and driveways when an air mole tool is to big and you don't what to rent or buy a 250 cfm air compressor . selling the shit out of them and that's what there really mad about.
Nice idea but way to much work and labor intense just use air compressor and a bullet alot faster 🤷♂️
works until you hit a big rock i guess
а если вода и грязь в яме ?
TASHKENT UZBEKISTAN SVARCHIK
Sorry, my junk drawer is full. Looks like another solution looking for a problem. There are several better, faster, cheaper ways of doing this.
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Would not work here. Boulders big as a old wv beatle
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Another solution looking for a problem to solve. Not all ‘inventions’ are innovative nor necessary.
Some like this are. When you trying to run a water service under a busy road that can't be dug up.
You could have dug a trench with the shovel in half the time and effort
Often used under driveways, where you don’t want a mess etc.
Tell me you don't understand the point without telling me
@@griznatle The point between your ears ?
@@The_Sword3 yeah you seem to be missing that material, or at least its fairly smoothed out
@@maxreed501 There are cheaper, faster, easier ways to get a water service under a 20 foot driveway span.
no mention of the 17 different electrical, sewer, water, comm wires/pipes he broke on the way, without the ability to know he broke them, Hummmmm!
So basically when you can't use any type of boring machine is what your saying
Полное говно ... А как он будет извлекать эти пробойники ? Землю рыть ? 😢😂
Crappy, inefficient system only good for very limited conditions. Why would I waste money on a product like that which requires that much equipment. A pneumatic mole would be far more efficient and cost effective for small jobs and an HDD better for larger jobs. You can even buy boring drills to mount on a skid steer. No way would you ever see a system like this on a real job. To many better options out there.
This is a nothing demonstration. You could confidently push a pipe under a sidewalk, and that is about it.
That's what this machine is for, short trenchless work. Congrats
@@griznatle a drill with extensions works better, and has way more uses.
@@RandomFandom1 the amount of torque you would need to do that with a drill is....
Alot. And every time an extension is added, torque is lost
@@griznatle I think you under estimate this drill. It's a black and decker hammer drill out of the 80's with the spline drive. I've drilled 8ft long holes with no issue. We routinely use it for drilling 1.25" × 12" holes for dowels on the job. This tool gets used daily for the last 30 years
BORING BORING