Why Does Chicago Airport Have 8 Runways

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  • čas přidán 25. 01. 2024
  • Chicago O'hare Airport is the only airport in the world to have 8 runways. it's not the busiest airport in the world yet it has the 3 more runways than the busiest Atlanta.
    other airports like Dubai and London Heathrow which have somewhat similar passenger numbers have just 2 runways. so in this video, we'll see why Chicago airprot is the only one with 8 runways.
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Komentáře • 406

  • @kleeblattchen38
    @kleeblattchen38 Před 3 měsíci +841

    well saying Heathrow and Dubai are fine with 2 runways is maybe a bit of an understatement… Heathrow for example operates at something like 98/99% capacity, that’s insane… they‘re looking for ways to enable more resilient operations (heathrow with debating about expansion for years and Dubai building an entire new airport)

    • @ulysseslee9541
      @ulysseslee9541 Před 3 měsíci +60

      Debate of building 3rd runway for Heathrow is a task for every decade of the UK GOV and there are many airport built their 3rd/4th runway in the other part of the world already during their period of debate, such as AMS, FRT, HKG, SIN, ICN, PEK, BKK, HND etc.

    • @GeoMeridium
      @GeoMeridium Před 3 měsíci +45

      @@ulysseslee9541 Heathrow definitely needs the 3rd runway, and the economic value of building it would be enough to pay every displaced person 4 million pounds per year.

    • @altavelmcnamara
      @altavelmcnamara Před 3 měsíci +25

      Exactly! Just take a look at all the holding patterns during peak hours in Dubai and London.

    • @SYDAirlineEnthusiast
      @SYDAirlineEnthusiast Před 3 měsíci +1

      I think Heathrow needs to have both of its runways used for both takeoffs and landings to avoid go arounds.

    • @SYDAirlineEnthusiast
      @SYDAirlineEnthusiast Před 3 měsíci

      @@ulysseslee9541heathrow used to have a third runway, though a crosswind runway, but they decommissioned it sometime in the late 2000s, and now, the new terminal 5 sits at the site of that old runway.

  • @jjwwqq
    @jjwwqq Před 3 měsíci +509

    1) They needed them.
    2) They built them.

  • @tomschultz8933
    @tomschultz8933 Před 3 měsíci +358

    This also doesn't take into account the cargo traffic, which is heavier at O'Hare than most other airports that have the same amount of passenger traffic. The other airports focused on in this piece don't have nearly the cargo traffic.

    • @BroadwayLTDProductions
      @BroadwayLTDProductions Před 3 měsíci +11

      You beat me to it! Heck most of the 4-holers I see on flight aware at O’Hare are either Cargolux or Atlas.

    • @turkfiles
      @turkfiles Před 3 měsíci +11

      Took the words right off my finger tips. Cargo is a huge part of ORD’s flights. Just like Chicago is the freight railway hub of the country, O’hare plays a significant role in US airfreight traffic. Granted, Atlanta is Fed Ex’s home base which is one of the reasons why it’s the busiest.

    • @BroadwayLTDProductions
      @BroadwayLTDProductions Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@turkfiles Actually Memphis is home to FedEx.

    • @LightSpeedFury01YT
      @LightSpeedFury01YT Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@turkfilesno, Memphis is

    • @cheef825
      @cheef825 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@turkfiles FedEx is based outta Memphis

  • @nelauren
    @nelauren Před 3 měsíci +85

    Atlanta is number one in passengers. Chicago is number one in flights. Somehow people mix these things up.

    • @Llearez527
      @Llearez527 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Chiraq 🔫🔫 bang bang

    • @Llearez527
      @Llearez527 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Come n find out

    • @andrewsdiamantes8147
      @andrewsdiamantes8147 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@Llearez527gayest comment ever

    • @Llearez527
      @Llearez527 Před 2 měsíci

      @@andrewsdiamantes8147 yours? U got that right
      Chiraq 🔫🔫 come n find out u wouldn’t make it pass the tsa before u merked

    • @Llearez527
      @Llearez527 Před 2 měsíci

      @@andrewsdiamantes8147 yet u scared to come to chiraq n find out

  • @physics08
    @physics08 Před 3 měsíci +71

    This was a very roundabout way to explain two simple things: (1) ORD has bad weather / unpredictable winds (2) more small planes fly thru ORD so need more runways

    • @Zel-kr3qj
      @Zel-kr3qj Před 7 dny

      Many CZcams videos these days are like that, or almost every video from CNET

  • @eddiem461
    @eddiem461 Před 3 měsíci +250

    Extreme weather issues are “rare” have you been to Chicago during winter. There day to day winter weather is extreme to everyone else.

    • @MAtildaMortuaryserver
      @MAtildaMortuaryserver Před 3 měsíci +4

      Also when I was flying New York to SFO they were stopping in Chicago but they used Milwaukee which is more often seen as a Chicago exurb airport. The Amtrak Hiawatha runs every 4 hours and takes a little over an hour to get to Union Station.

    • @areza15143
      @areza15143 Před 3 měsíci +5

      I think he was talking about rare in other places.

    • @FDDFGGSHORTS
      @FDDFGGSHORTS Před 3 měsíci +2

      "Extreme to everyone else". You don't know what true extreme winter weather is

    • @johnmaer
      @johnmaer Před 3 měsíci

      You are right of course....but see the comment above. This Y-T video and its story is a near total "whitewash" of local aviation history. Most stakeholders (eg. American Airlines, United Airlines, the pilots union, ATC, the NTSB, etc. etc.) have too much skin in the game to demand a factually credible dissertation on O'Hare and how it developed into an eight runway monstrosity.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 3 měsíci

      Not Denver, but true for most other US airports.

  • @vanguard9067
    @vanguard9067 Před 3 měsíci +111

    Surprised it was t mentioned that O’hare was the busiest airport in the world for many years as a part of the need for its numerous runways.

    • @JeanClaudeCOCO
      @JeanClaudeCOCO Před 3 měsíci +16

      Right, Chicago isn’t a slacker of an airport. The person who did this video left so many facts out.
      Chicago was the number 1 airport in the world for decades way before Atlanta, historically it has been the leader in Aircraft movement and cargo tons.
      Just before 2019
      passengers traffic 84,649,115 Increase1.69% aircraft movements 919,704 cargo metric tons 1,788,001
      During that same time Emirates had 86,396,757. At the time Dubai was #4, Chicago was #6 busiest in the world. Even 2022 numbers are in Chicago is number 4 at 68,340,619 in the world vs Dubai at number 6 with 66,069,981, follow by LAX at number 6 with 65 million.
      If he only Google and presented the facts this would have been a clear cut video. Instead it is full of holes and not factually correct.

    • @vanguard9067
      @vanguard9067 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Jenkmode89 oh, c’mon. Get real.

    • @vanguard9067
      @vanguard9067 Před 3 měsíci +9

      @@JeanClaudeCOCO yes, it seems that documentary videos really should review sources more thoroughly.

    • @roberthumphrey1304
      @roberthumphrey1304 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Look at the number of airports within 1000 miles of Chicago versus Dubai.
      That is why Chicago has more smaller aircraft.
      Chicago's location is why it was the hub of the nation's railroads.

  • @Cancun771
    @Cancun771 Před 2 měsíci +18

    I can still remember flying into O'Hare in December '08 and the plane actually landed some 20 minutes early. But then we *taxied around the airport for over 45 minutes* until finally reaching the gate! It was insane.

    • @realShadowKat
      @realShadowKat Před 2 měsíci +4

      ORD is my home base. Landing early often means you get put in a sin-bin or taxiied around because your company's gate is occupied. Just happened to me a couple weeks ago.

    • @whatsamattayu3257
      @whatsamattayu3257 Před 2 měsíci

      Had that happen to me a number of times on American Airlines. Very frustrating, but more common than I thought.

    • @lukedeulen1830
      @lukedeulen1830 Před měsícem

      Yeah, I looked on google maps once while taxiing there, we just went in a circle around the whole thing for half an hour.🤔

  • @manifestgtr
    @manifestgtr Před 3 měsíci +72

    It’s funny how Ohare and Dubai are such mental airports for such similar reasons. Ohare is centrally located in North America so it sees a TON of smaller traffic. Dubai is centrally located between Europe and Asia so it pumps in huge numbers of international passengers.

    • @muzero2642
      @muzero2642 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Its actually not between Europe and Asia at all. The shortest route goes over Russia, even to the southernmost destinations. Sadly, Russia's war means routes get lengthened by up to 3500km, which obviously benefits Gulf states.
      But it's centrally located between Europe and Oceania + Africa and Asia.

    • @kickedinthecalfbyacow7549
      @kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 Před 10 dny

      @@muzero2642you wouldn’t go over Russia for any where south of 30N, that’s more than half of Asia (in terms of population)

    • @muzero2642
      @muzero2642 Před 10 dny

      @@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 You definitely would. Stockholm-Hong Kong (22°N) has the shortest distance go north of Moscow

  • @jckyu
    @jckyu Před 3 měsíci +34

    I’ve flown on airplanes as big as the 777s and as small as twin engine piston propellers into ohare. 13000km nonstop from Hong Kong and 200 km from Michigan. Really shows how diverse the traffic at ORD is.

    • @bobks1
      @bobks1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      about the same as me except i flew out of ohare in the 747

  • @michaelangell4585
    @michaelangell4585 Před 3 měsíci +74

    Hasn’t O’Hare also increased its cargo capacity in the last several years? This would account for some of the aircraft movements.

    • @neils5539
      @neils5539 Před 3 měsíci +8

      There are plenty of freighters coming in, particularly 747's from Asia. But they tend to arrive late in the evening because of the way FedEx and UPS hubs work. So most of them are outbound about 2am.

    • @bryant07681
      @bryant07681 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Yes to answer your question

    • @jonathanbott87
      @jonathanbott87 Před měsícem

      ​@@neils5539 but that still skews their pax to plane ratios

  • @stephenbritton9297
    @stephenbritton9297 Před 3 měsíci +32

    Many times flying into Ohare on a regional (CRJ/ERJ/etc) you come in on the northern most runway and then taxi for almost as long as your flight is!

    • @katrinareads
      @katrinareads Před 2 měsíci +2

      As those from the area say, "You CAN fly from Milwaukee to Chicago, but it really would be faster to drive."
      And by drive, we mean we will literally drive you there ourselves and deal with Chicago drivers rather than let you be so stupid as to sit on those infernal runways. Charlie Berens is not kidding in his videos about Wisconsinites' willingness to drive someone to the airport.
      If we can't take you in our cars, though, we're probably still going to recommend the Greyhound or train over that waste of flight space between MKE and ORD. Especially if you're already south of Milwaukee about to drive north into there, wait in the airport, wait on the airplane, fly, and wait for an open gate. By the time that's all done, you've spent more time and money than you would've on the Greyhound or trains. At least that was true back in the day. Now, we'd probably tell you to hire an Uber or Lyft to take you because seriously, bro, that puddle jump isn't worth it.

  • @TheMaartian
    @TheMaartian Před 3 měsíci +21

    I've flown in and out of O'Hare hundreds of times. Except for my flight to France when I moved here 2 1/2 years ago, those flights occurred 20+ years ago. I've even flown into O'Hare in the right seat of a personal twin turboprop. What I noticed from this video is that runway 34/16 is GONE. That was a surprise. I flew in and out on it regularly.

  • @codnewbgamer
    @codnewbgamer Před 3 měsíci +16

    One nice part is the selection of different runways allows for quieter days for affected neighborhoods

    • @jeffjay2323
      @jeffjay2323 Před 2 měsíci

      so true. I live due east 4 miles of the newer "sunnyside" runway. when the wind is blowing in a certain way, they are over my house every few minutes/

  • @Trainmaster909
    @Trainmaster909 Před 2 měsíci +6

    You also have a lot of dedicated cargo traffic at Chicago due to the heavy railroad presence and central location of the city, which further adds to the planes in and out of ORD.

  • @TheEmaile
    @TheEmaile Před 3 měsíci +6

    Very interesting! I left Chicago right when they got approval to expand the airport. Never had a clue that this was how the runways there worked. Also didn’t know that Mitsubishi made CRJs.

  • @Josiah_X_737NG
    @Josiah_X_737NG Před 3 měsíci +47

    "Mitsubishi CRJ" doesn't exist.... The correct is "Canada Regional Jet CRJ"

    • @patrickpoeschl2966
      @patrickpoeschl2966 Před 3 měsíci +3

      *Canadair

    • @claycarter3535
      @claycarter3535 Před 3 měsíci +11

      Official Mitsubishi now that they bought the company. I just call them CRJs

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@claycarter3535 Was this perhaps a reaction to them canceling their own MRJ design during COVID?

    • @45scienceproject
      @45scienceproject Před 3 měsíci +11

      Company is actually called Bombardier, the MODEL is called the Canadaair Regional Jet.
      Edit: Looks like Mitsubishi did buy out the CRJ program from Bombardier. I stand corrected.

    • @martinc.720
      @martinc.720 Před 3 měsíci

      Look things up before you try and correct people, you smartass

  • @BabyBang17datruth
    @BabyBang17datruth Před 3 měsíci +11

    Atlanta has a 6th parallel runway planned in the future

  • @kevindigo22
    @kevindigo22 Před 3 měsíci +11

    KORD has changed so much over the last 20 years or so.....I didn't even realize both the old 14-32's were now completely gone. The fact KORD is a hub for both American and United, and the proliferation of all the RJ traffic, made things much worse from a traffic congestion perspective for the old 6 intersecting runway configuration. One of the interesting things about flying into and out of the old KORD configuration was the traffic patterns of arrivals and departures when using the non-parallel runways simultaneously. I distinctly remember being on an arriving flight on approach, and looking out the window seeing a departing flight pass right behind us at what I thought was way too close. I am sure the old configuration must have kept ATC and the pilots on their toes, relying on their TCAS, especially in low visibility conditions. I would think if KLAX can manage with 4 parallels, and KATL with 5 parallels, KORD should be able to manage with the same. If you want to talk about runway limitations, you should do a video on San Diego (KSAN) that operates with a single runway, which is unusual for an airport in a city of that size.

    • @SYDAirlineEnthusiast
      @SYDAirlineEnthusiast Před 3 měsíci +2

      San Diego is a very small airport. Also, Tijuana airport serves San Diego too.

    • @sabretooth1997
      @sabretooth1997 Před 3 měsíci +1

      KSAN is the busiest single-runway airport in the US. I believe KRSW (Fort Myers, FL) is #2.

  • @KeemBeckford
    @KeemBeckford Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love videos like this. I’ve only landed at O’Hare once but the views were stunning even in the snow ❄️

  • @RainyDJ
    @RainyDJ Před 2 měsíci +25

    Is this video AI generated?

    • @miamisasquatch
      @miamisasquatch Před 9 dny +1

      Mitsubishi CRJ get you too?

    • @Blubb5000
      @Blubb5000 Před 9 dny +1

      Most probably yes.

    • @bobthemagicmoose
      @bobthemagicmoose Před 8 dny +1

      A seven minute video that says “bad weather and small planes” over and over again…

  • @crawlinaugust
    @crawlinaugust Před 3 měsíci +7

    Hey Love the content! Can you make a video about the comeback of A380 now that global airlines has also acquired some and its probably making a comeback!

    • @Broadvay
      @Broadvay  Před 3 měsíci +2

      thank you so much, I'll probably make one if I can point out something new.

  • @flyerman34
    @flyerman34 Před 3 měsíci +4

    O'hare is also in the middle of an $8.5 billion terminal upgrade under the ORD21 project which is adding 2 new satellite terminals and rebuilding terminal 2 into a "global terminal". So it's adding 25% more gate space while allowing for additional satellite terminals to be built to the west if need be in the future.

  • @EC4U2C_Studioz
    @EC4U2C_Studioz Před 3 měsíci +20

    I think you should do a video about the people movers of Dulles Airport. Dulles has 4 runways and plans to have a 5th runway that parallels their 12/30 runway. If that happens, Dulles should handle parallel takeoffs with a separation longer than the parallel takeoffs seen at San Francisco International Airport.

    • @ulysseslee9541
      @ulysseslee9541 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Denver Airport already having 6 runways, 4 in N-S. 2 in E-W and it is the airport in USA with the largest land size.

    • @SYDAirlineEnthusiast
      @SYDAirlineEnthusiast Před 3 měsíci +1

      DFW has 7 runways, but only uses the 5 north-south runways most of the time. Sometimes, it will use the crosswind runways, but only rarely.

    • @vanguard9067
      @vanguard9067 Před 3 měsíci

      The IAD people movers are a holdover from when they were designed to move passengers to and from the main terminal and planes directly, and not between different terminals as they do now. It has been a very long time (10 years?) since I was on a people mover where we deplaned to a people mover taking us directly to the main terminal. I am sure it seemed like a great idea back in the 60’s

    • @andykillsu
      @andykillsu Před 3 měsíci +3

      Chicago O'Hare can already handle 4 parallel takeoffs and landings at once. Which is the most of any airport in the world.

  • @timjouwstra
    @timjouwstra Před 3 měsíci +6

    Chicago's other major airport, Chicago Midway, has four runways. That's 12 runways within 15 miles of downtown and within 15 miles of each other.

    • @TheProgGuy
      @TheProgGuy Před 3 měsíci +1

      worth noting that midway has 2 sets of parallel runways and only 2 runways are used for the majority of traffic which happen to intersect each other. o'hare theroetically could have 6 planes taking off or landing simultaneously while midway only could theroetically have 2.
      while there is some overlap in airlines, Southwest is huge at midway (their largest airline) while Delta is huge at Ohare. Volaris seems to be split and Frontier, while having overlapping cities, have exclusives per airport. Chicago is in the middle of the country (for the most part) and so many connecting flighs happen here, not to mention the volume of cargo that happens at Ohare.

    • @kareneverman9256
      @kareneverman9256 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Delta is not huge at O’Hare. United and American are huge at O’Hare. Southwest now has flights there as well.

    • @novelero03
      @novelero03 Před 2 měsíci

      @@kareneverman9256 You beat me to it, America and United are what dominate O'Hare, with some Delta and some flights from Southwest now entering there as well. Midway is dominated by Southwest, with some flights from Frontier and some Delta as well. At Midway, the international flights are dominated by Volaris.

  • @wimmcraft
    @wimmcraft Před 3 měsíci +9

    thanks for the info ive always wanted to know why. And btw the video was really well put together

  • @allmightygriff
    @allmightygriff Před 3 měsíci +6

    Was this narrated and written by AI. Such weird grammer

  • @777coletrain
    @777coletrain Před 3 měsíci +5

    To be honest, it seems like 22R is used more during the Chicago air show than for crosswinds

  • @jonasrettig327
    @jonasrettig327 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Keep up the good way! The subscribers will come!

  • @Twinsen764
    @Twinsen764 Před 3 měsíci +2

    This is interesting I am subscribing. Maybe next you can do why DEN has the longest Runway.

    • @schoolssection
      @schoolssection Před 3 měsíci

      Elevation plus hot summers.

    • @Twinsen764
      @Twinsen764 Před 3 měsíci

      Has to be more than that. It's also 100 feet wider.

    • @alquinn8576
      @alquinn8576 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Twinsen764 if you study the murals close enough, you will find the answer 😉

    • @Twinsen764
      @Twinsen764 Před 2 měsíci

      There has to be coincidence

  • @LBUKRK
    @LBUKRK Před 3 měsíci +3

    I loved it. So interresting. AMS has 7 runways. It's an Amazing airport.

    • @SYDAirlineEnthusiast
      @SYDAirlineEnthusiast Před 3 měsíci

      6 runways, and at most, only 3 of those runways are used at a time only.

  • @alexlindsey6446
    @alexlindsey6446 Před 2 měsíci +2

    This video repeats the same information over and over and over but with slightly different wording. Let's sum it up. Chicago O'Hare has 8 runways: 1. Because of wildly varying wind/weather conditions 2. The high number of takeoffs since it MOSTLY serves regional and domestic flights (81 ppp with 8 runways vs 180 ppp with 2 runways @ Dubai) The end.

  • @timbroman2653
    @timbroman2653 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Interior airport footage at 4:32 is from DTW (Detroit), not ORD.

  • @epapa737
    @epapa737 Před 3 měsíci +9

    My brain got derailed when you said Mitsubishi CRJ TWICE 💀

    • @Broadvay
      @Broadvay  Před 3 měsíci +4

      I don't know everybody keep saying it's bombardier, but actually bombardier sold the crj program to Mitsubishi in June 2020.

    • @bombapples1
      @bombapples1 Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah the only plane that Bombardier manufactures anymore is the Global 7,500

    • @45scienceproject
      @45scienceproject Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​​@@BroadvayThis is new information to me! Do you know if they still manufacture them under the Bombardier name having been bought out by Mitsubishi or are they actually released under the make of 'Mitsubishi' now that they have been bought out? Super cool video and I learned a lot. Thank you!!!

  • @brianlance
    @brianlance Před 7 dny

    Recently flew into ORD from BOS on a ERJ175. Landed on 9L and taxied for nearly 30 minutes (with minimal stops) to get to the gate.

  • @TheAZPro-yi8bu
    @TheAZPro-yi8bu Před 3 měsíci +3

    Because it doesn't have 7 or 9?

  • @williamnowacki
    @williamnowacki Před 3 měsíci +1

    O’Hare used to have Runways 14R-32L and Runway 14L-32R. They stopped using them. Plus runway 4L-22R is rarely used. It’s crazy

  • @repairdrive
    @repairdrive Před 2 měsíci +5

    This was awesome!! Drove by O'Hare yesterday and I am still amazed at this place.

    • @whatsamattayu3257
      @whatsamattayu3257 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Before 9/11, it was common to see cars parked on the side of Irving Park Road, near Mannheim Road watching planes arrive and depart.

    • @Rattler808
      @Rattler808 Před 2 měsíci

      @@whatsamattayu3257 my stepdad and i used to chill exactly there in the late 80s when i was a child. bird watching lol good times.

  • @TrulyChxse
    @TrulyChxse Před 3 měsíci

    Love it!

  • @SecretAsianMan2222
    @SecretAsianMan2222 Před 2 měsíci

    It's sorta wild that you're using random B-roll if different airports. At 4:30ish the teriyoure showing isn't ORD, it's DTW's McNamara terminal.

  • @jurti19
    @jurti19 Před 10 dny

    Chicago O'Hare was a cool airport to fly into. But that taxing time was whoa. Landed on time with 30 minutes to spare. But by the time we got to the gate. My connecting flight was boarding. Thankfully it was in the same Terminal.

  • @yst8831
    @yst8831 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I only used O’Hare to transfer to connecting flight but Detroit and Minneapolis or DFW was more convenient.

  • @jonathanbott87
    @jonathanbott87 Před měsícem

    How does dedicated cargo ops impact plane movements?

  • @ulysseslee9541
    @ulysseslee9541 Před 3 měsíci +4

    to compare the total terminal area of ORD and DXB,
    DXB is with more larger area of terminal than DXB, Their T3 is the largest terminal in the world with more than 1.7Million SqM
    For ORD, it is a central hub of USA and it is the most aircraft movement in the world for many years due to huge numbers of interchange flights
    I agree that to have more runway for better flexibility of runway usage.

  • @richkurtz6053
    @richkurtz6053 Před 10 dny

    Chicago also does a lot of cargo flights, both national and international. This also further reduces the average number of passengers per aircraft movement.

  • @HR-wd6cw
    @HR-wd6cw Před 3 měsíci +1

    Chicago O'Hare is a major US hub, somewhat connecting people from the East to the West and probably even as a major hub between the US and Canada as well. As such, you need many runways to handle the traffic. I believe at one point and this may still be true, there is a plane taking off or landing like every 30 seconds (if you factor in that no flights take off/land bewteen the hours of midnight or 1 am to 5am; some red-eye flights may leave late but I think there is no flights after 1am because its location among other things.

  • @alquinn8576
    @alquinn8576 Před 2 měsíci +3

    now explain why it takes 35 minutes to taxi after landing to a gate at ORD

    • @Imran-Shah
      @Imran-Shah Před 2 měsíci

      50 minutes from St Louis to Chicago, 40 minutes taxying at O-Hare🤣

    • @jonathanbott87
      @jonathanbott87 Před měsícem

      Planes have a "slow" land speed and need clearance to cross every runway (even at the end) and the crossing is cycled with the takeoffs & landings - you're sometimes crossing 2 runways during taxi.

  • @Jeff-gq8sx
    @Jeff-gq8sx Před měsícem

    I guess 32R is gone where AA191 took off from in May 1979 and crashed by the trailer park on Touhy Ave. I'll never forget that...

  • @wolfelkan8183
    @wolfelkan8183 Před 11 dny +1

    I think the voiceover on this video might be AI. I'm not sure, but he makes several grammatical mistakes that I've never heard made by someone with such an impeccable American accent.

  • @mdleweight
    @mdleweight Před 3 měsíci +2

    I have done 8 flights into Heathrow in the past 5 months and every one was delayed due to flow control based on runway shortages.

  • @actng
    @actng Před 11 dny

    the script is a little reptitive but thanks for sharing i had no idea ORD had that many runways despite flying thru there so many times

  • @rogerrice1772
    @rogerrice1772 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Chicago has 8 runways because Chicago needed an excuse to claim imminent domain over the outlying neighborhoods that had, for years, complained about the noise.

  • @Emberplayz-fj7ih
    @Emberplayz-fj7ih Před 12 dny

    I have been to O'Hara Airport once cause I went up their for a trip with my grandmother

  • @radiant47shorts85
    @radiant47shorts85 Před 2 měsíci

    Make a video on igi airport

  • @TheRealMartinDominik
    @TheRealMartinDominik Před 3 měsíci +1

    London Heathrow once had 6 runways

  • @TheSonicsean
    @TheSonicsean Před 3 měsíci +2

    Don't forget that O'Hare (not the only airport in Chicago, as Midway is a major domestic hub for Southwest) is a main hub for two airlines, which is a rarity. So most all of the regional United and American flights either go to or come from O'Hare, along with the long haul (to the coasts) and international flights from the hub that the airlines (and their aligned partners) have. It's no wonder that ORD is one of the busiest airports on the planet.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 3 měsíci +1

      There was a time that OHare was the primary hub for almost every major US Airline.
      Congestion convinced more of them to move.
      Then the end of the "hub and spoke" system due to increasing passenger traffic spread the load out even more.

    • @Ad_Valorem
      @Ad_Valorem Před 2 měsíci +1

      Midway is no slouch, it handles about 20 million passengers/year. When I lived in Chicago, I used to fly private airplanes, mostly Cessnas, out of there.

  • @jadenfreqedit4585
    @jadenfreqedit4585 Před 2 měsíci

    makes perfect sense

  • @jaimealbiter1973
    @jaimealbiter1973 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I can tell you that as a former fueler at ohare it really is one of a kind.

    • @novelero03
      @novelero03 Před 2 měsíci

      Really? Why?

    • @whatsamattayu3257
      @whatsamattayu3257 Před 2 měsíci

      I worked at O'Haea when Butler Aviation was the big fueling company at the airport. They did all of the private and small airline fueling.

  • @gstanley75
    @gstanley75 Před 3 měsíci

    8 runways but when summer thunderstorms arrive and aircraft spacing is doubled 20 minutes of a microburst takes 4-5 hours of delay/catch up time. Used to cross the country via DFW or ORD 20 times a year. I got good at watching weather and arranging trips to avoid thunderstorms.

  • @ccubsfan94
    @ccubsfan94 Před 3 měsíci +2

    The other thing to consider is how large of a cargo hub chicago is as well.
    The south runway complex is practically dedicated to cargo, unpess youre the unlucky RJ

    • @Broadvay
      @Broadvay  Před 3 měsíci

      yeah, you're right but you also have to consider that majority of cargo operation are carried at night when commercial operations are close to none, for example at ORD there's only 5 to 7 cargo departures in the peak hours of morning from 7 to 12AM.

    • @jonathanbott87
      @jonathanbott87 Před měsícem

      ​@@Broadvaybut it still skews pax to plane ratios

  • @DC92309
    @DC92309 Před 2 měsíci

    Being able to alternate runway usage would also help in extending the lifetime of the surface and reducing costs

  • @rtomsa1
    @rtomsa1 Před 3 měsíci

    I driver by Ohare twice a day. The runway you say is rarely used (22R) is possibly the most used. planes are constantly landing using 22R over my head as I drive on i90

    • @MysteriousMeatloaf
      @MysteriousMeatloaf Před 3 měsíci

      Not true. The E to W landing configuration is used 80% of the time. Landing on 22R would interfere with that. 22R is used much more in a takeoff configuration.

  • @bwhog
    @bwhog Před 3 měsíci

    Sky Harbor (PHX) has 2.5 runways (the "half" because it is much shorter than the others and mostly used by the air national guard flights and small aircraft that don't require the large runway.) One north of the terminals and one south of them and the smaller to the south of that. Because "strong winds" in Phoenix are usually "gusting to 35mph", multiple directions are not needed. So they are simply aligned east-west, which is basically the direction of those winds anyway, even though that was not originally a consideration. Tens of thousands of people pass through that airport daily with few issues. Delays are rare and are typically caused by issues at connecting airports. For example, if ORD is snowed in, PHX flights destined to ORD can't take off on time. PHX could definitely use another runway but it will never happen because the airport is surrounded by infrastructure now. At best, they will be able to relocate the guard post and cargo terminals, move the third runway a little south and extend it. They they could, say, launch from the center, land on the south, and alternate on the north as needed.

  • @honestreviewer3615
    @honestreviewer3615 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Some inaccurate information. Do not underestimate Ohare when it comes to passenger traffic and aircraft movements as it is still one of the top 5 in the world in 2022. There are lots of flights in Ohare, and i beleive the 6 functional runways make landings and take offs faster despite several flights. Im from Chicago and I take Ohare several times. I never experienced a delay in landing due to a congested or unavailable runway. Due to more runways, landings are more efficient.

  • @savagecub
    @savagecub Před 3 měsíci

    And depending upon which runway you land on you can easily tack on another half of an hour before you get to your gate !

  • @GreatLakesDrifta
    @GreatLakesDrifta Před 3 měsíci

    lol, the terminal shown at 4:35 is actually Detroit’s Metro airport, like they’re just picking random footage. Still, interesting video

  • @flyjagz
    @flyjagz Před 3 měsíci +3

    Can you cover how Boston manages it's ridiculous airport configuration?

    • @tjbennett7281
      @tjbennett7281 Před 3 měsíci

      Quite well actually. They usually don’t have near the volume of ORD or ATL.

  • @gnicholson4231
    @gnicholson4231 Před 2 měsíci

    When Heathrow airport opened just after WWII it had 6 runways. Now down to 2 runways, partly because aircraft cross-wind tolerance limits have increased to normally 30 knots.

  • @dvtt
    @dvtt Před 2 měsíci

    for some reason they're always saying it's at capacity and needs to expand... sounds like you're saying it's future-proofed

  • @StephenKarl_Integral
    @StephenKarl_Integral Před 3 měsíci +2

    Okay, there are less seats per aircraft movement, inducing much more movements than say Dubai, but video failed to address why is that? (along with other reasons)
    1) Chicago is in the middle of a continent size country with lots of routes, of all types. It's a city hub, with healthy business, and a myriad similar cities all around. To connect those, you need many flights, some routes operated several times a day for choice and flexibility, everyday, that's why the smaller planes. Cities like Dubai only have relevant demand on two axis, Middle East/Europe and Middle East/South East Asia and Oceania (mainly long haul except India). Chicago is much more similar to Atlanta, Paris, Frankfurt or Milan on that aspect than Dubai or Los Angeles.
    2) What kind of city is Chicago? It's like London, Paris, Tokyo or New York. Population, ie, travelers doing businesses and goods to ship. You can't compare Chicago to a small city like Dubai, or to a poor city like Johannesburg. The city offers a huge amount of people who can afford air travel. As a comparison, take each capital of any african country, airports with one single runway mostly, because those cities cannot compare to Chicago alone in terms of wealth, population and economical activities. Even Addis Abeba or Johannesburg is nowhere near... no need for that much runways unless showing off..
    3) the reason why Charles de Gaulle or Los Angeles can cope with just 4 runways is..... O'Hare is the ONLY major airport at Chicago. Nearby is Midway, the other much farther are too small (not enough long runways) to be relevant. To compare Paris to Chicago, you must combine Charles de Gaulle, Orly and Vatry for cargo, that's 8 long runways. The same for London, New York, Los Angeles, and so many more. Actually, the isolated San Diego is one exceptionally "busy" airport. One airport such with "too many runways already" could be Sydney Kingsford Smith, or Honolulu.
    4) Cargo volume. In cities like Dubai or Paris with another airport to handle time consuming cargo (un)loading, Chicago has nowhere but O'Hare. That's why the cargo traffic is so high there, no choice but cope with what you have.
    Sure, weather/wind is a factor, but if it was that relevant, most single runway airports would struggle half the time, though, that's not the case. A three day disrupted traffic due to polar blizzard, sure, that's something, but no, constantly changing winds is not really a cause of runway multiplication.
    Traffic density due to aircraft types of all size and operation, sure, many runways needed, but what I wrote above is the proper explanation of why, in the end, Chicago O'Hare dwarved every other seemingly similar airports in terms of number of runways because of geographical situation, healthy economics 360° around, and not having any other choice than that very airport.

    • @claycarter3535
      @claycarter3535 Před 3 měsíci

      Most of the cargo goes to Chicago-Rockford now, though o'Hare gets plenty.

  • @ronpinto9588
    @ronpinto9588 Před 2 měsíci

    It's just so a bunch of airplanes can land at once, then you stay at the tarmac waiting for a gate to be free... for two hours.

  • @woodentrainseriesofficial9511

    Gatwick and stansted used to be raf bases, hence the small runway

  • @joec1774
    @joec1774 Před 3 měsíci +2

    wow this could have been 4 mins. super redundant. was this made by AI?

  • @gregfaris6959
    @gregfaris6959 Před 3 měsíci +1

    It is simply not true that London Heathrow operates "just fine" on two runways. The shortage of runway capacity at Europe's busiest airport is a major problem for the city, causing untold economic hardship for trade and commerce, and an ecological disaster as virtually every arriving aircraft must be placed in a holding pattern until a landing slot is available, causing thousands of tons of wasted jet fuel burned over the city every single day, while creating noise pollution and increased risk for residents. Those stacked holding patterns have largely been eliminated in the US, due to airport coordination, assignment of reserved slots, and above all ample runway capacity at most of America's busiest airports.

  • @mlmielke
    @mlmielke Před 3 měsíci +1

    Btw, it's incorrect to say that an airport can't use a runway just because it intersects another runway. My local airport often does both, despite intersecting.

    • @mlmielke
      @mlmielke Před 3 měsíci

      In fact, today, they had one depart just one minute ahead of another plane on the other intersecting runway.

    • @mlmielke
      @mlmielke Před 3 měsíci

      Oh, now two landing planes from the same origin city are landing on different intersecting runways.

  • @user-nt1jw3bz7w
    @user-nt1jw3bz7w Před 3 měsíci

    They also close all but one runway overnight. Which runway remains open varies to try and spread out the noise to different surrounding communities to at least try and be a good neighbor.

  • @closenbaseball
    @closenbaseball Před 3 měsíci +1

    Chicago has a crap ton of freight traffic. It’s a major transportation hub and transfer between air and ground.

  • @mikewhitt4602
    @mikewhitt4602 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Kudos to Chicago for having the vision (and political courage) to overall the runway layout. This will make O’Hare more competitive in the future.

    • @bryant07681
      @bryant07681 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Terminals are being done now

  • @conorlauren
    @conorlauren Před 3 měsíci +3

    At 5:11 you show a couple of planes on final into San Francisco. A very interesting video would be about SFO and its two main arrival runways and why it so often gets delayed due to having to shut down one of them because they are too close together.

  • @DugrozReports
    @DugrozReports Před 3 měsíci +1

    I am once again requesting better lounges at the O’Hare international Airport

    • @novelero03
      @novelero03 Před 2 měsíci

      I hope that with this new renovation thing that is going on some of them get renovated, but especially the international ones get better lounges! Long overdue!

  • @Slavko_Husam
    @Slavko_Husam Před 2 měsíci +1

    3:40 PRG airport?😮

  • @purevanilla4438
    @purevanilla4438 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Nah dxb having 2 runways and Heathrow having 2 makes me wonder how they even operate

  • @bricefleckenstein9666
    @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 3 měsíci

    Even with that many runways, O'Hare operates at a fairly high capacity.
    It's not the busiest airport in the world in terms of aircraft operations any more - but it's still very high on the list.

  • @praill
    @praill Před 2 měsíci

    This video is way wordier than it needed to be

  • @garbo8962
    @garbo8962 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Can remember back in thec1960's when it seemed like planes from New York & Boston always stopped in Chicago on way to California. Heard they now have jets that can travel from New York to Hawaii without stopping. When I flew home from Viet Nam they stopped in Japan & Alaska before we landed in California.

  • @shakey2634
    @shakey2634 Před 3 měsíci

    ORD looks much different than when I was based there.

  • @trevorgwelch7412
    @trevorgwelch7412 Před 3 měsíci +1

    One runway is a landing strip for an ET tic tac

  • @jeffreysteve9284
    @jeffreysteve9284 Před 8 dny

    Meanwhile Mumbai Airport having more than 500 departures a day operates using only one runway

  • @ATrainGames
    @ATrainGames Před 3 měsíci

    You contradicted yourself with your closing statement in regards to using all 7 at once, as opposed to 6, and even 6 isn't safe to use. So in reality ORD has 5 runways.
    Dallas/Fort Worth International (DFW), on the other hand, and surprisingly not mentioned or pictured in this video, has 7 runways, and can operate off all 7 at the same time. And the airport is getting safer with new end-around taxiways complete on the north and south ends of 35L/17R and 35C/17C, and those under construction currently on the south end of 18/36 L/R and once completed the north ends.
    Interesting video, though. Thanks for sharing.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 3 měsíci

      DFW was able to grow a lot bigger before it started getting "hemmed in" by adjacent occupied infrastructure.
      A lesson they learned from OHare and Midway.

  • @warbird1e1
    @warbird1e1 Před 3 měsíci

    It's weird watching 2-3 taking off at a time and 2-3 landing

  • @desidero84
    @desidero84 Před 2 měsíci

    The background on ORD's runways was interesting, but everything else was painfully drawn out. The majority of the video could have been a few sentences.

  • @RomeoCuanan
    @RomeoCuanan Před 3 měsíci +3

    Atc be like: help.

  • @austindzik4702
    @austindzik4702 Před 3 měsíci

    Chicago also does some of the most freight movement in the country

  • @HunterRedell
    @HunterRedell Před 2 měsíci

    Mitsubishi makes the MRJ, not the CRJ, which is made by bombardier

  • @americanswan
    @americanswan Před 3 měsíci +1

    Some other airports have ONE super long runway.
    DFW, I believe, is the only airport in the world with FOUR massive runways.
    DFW has seven runways, I think.

    • @RoyalMela
      @RoyalMela Před 3 měsíci

      What is "massive?"
      O'Hare has 4 over 10.000ft runways. Amsterdam has 5, Beijing has 4, Istanbul has 5, Dulles 4, Shanghai has 5 over 11.000ft, Madrid has four over 11.000ft...
      Denver has 5 which are 12.000ft and one 16.000ft.

    • @americanswan
      @americanswan Před 3 měsíci

      @@RoyalMela
      Thank you for replying.
      You listed some airports with long runways. I was most impressed with İstanbul Havalimanı since it's runways are long and so many.
      DFW still holds its own as its FOUR main runways are 13,400 feet long each.

  • @krevenis5118
    @krevenis5118 Před měsícem

    This guy needs to get his homework done if he wants to sustain a subscriber base

  • @lukasboynton5146
    @lukasboynton5146 Před 2 měsíci

    When you really look at it, the city of Chicago has 12 runways😂

  • @andrewdiamond2697
    @andrewdiamond2697 Před 3 měsíci +1

    1. Atlanta is building a 6th runway.
    2. Chicago needs 7 because of SNOW CLEARING - they need to be able to always have one closed while ground operations clears snow off if it.
    3. The USA has more movements and domestic flights because our passenger rail networks are barely existent. Needing a lot of runways, particularly in Chicago, is a function of the failure in federal transportation policy in the USA. Many of those CRJs should be honestly be train rides.

    • @andrewlorenzo6611
      @andrewlorenzo6611 Před 3 měsíci

      Where is KATL building a 6th runway?

    • @andrewdiamond2697
      @andrewdiamond2697 Před 3 měsíci

      @@andrewlorenzo6611 Between the 4th and 6th one, with the 6th one being southernmost. The 6th one already goes over I-285. They had to do a lot of eminent domain and demolish a lot of offices, stores and hotels to do that one in the 1990s.

  • @satishreddy4470
    @satishreddy4470 Před 2 měsíci

    It is not a Mitsubishi CRJ. The CRJ is made by Bombardier. Canadian regional jet - CRJ

  • @JonBerry555
    @JonBerry555 Před měsícem

    Its so wrong to keep on hearing O'Hare called Chicago all the time. Namely because Chicago Midway is Chicago's second airport. That would be like calling London Heathrow just 'London' all the time despite there being other Landon airports. So say it with me "Chicago O'Hare" or just "O'Hare" for short.