EUROVISION 2016 // VOTING - OLD SYSTEM (PT 2/2)
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The results from Eurovision 2016, converted into the old voting system where jury votes and tele-votes are combined. (Part 2 of 2)
Disclaimer These results were calculated myself and may not be totally accurate, but the final placings are indeed correct.
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Australia 1st, France 5th, Sweden out of top 5. Ok will go with this 😂
Wtf Malta from 12th place with the new system to 24th place with the old one LOL
P.s I like the new system more cause all points are counted .Any country dont lose any point from jury or televoting
I mean that was absolutely ridiculous. They were 21st with the televoting. How did they manage to be dragged down so much?
@@crsx1861 bc of average scoring in the old system
instablaster.
Poland - 8th new system
19th old system
In that case the old system is better. Poland really didn't deserved top 10 in that year... I'm sorry but in my opinion there were much better songa
@@DENIZ-js9sr But public voted heavily for them, so... Public is always right, especially when country don't have huge diaspora or isn't part of any block (Ex Yugoslavia, Ex USSR, Scandinavia)
@@DENIZ-js9sr it's funny because it's very subjective point of view. If you would like to be fair the new system is definitely better because it's more just. Nobody's votes goes for waste in case of big difference between juries and televoting
@@DENIZ-js9sr You won't judge a song what the people liked. Same case with Netta and Salvador Sobral: They both won the public voting, don't say that these songs were hated...
@@DENIZ-js9sr WTF is wrong with you, that song is so good and have somethhing call masage
The result I wish happened in 2016.
yeah and the polish masterpiece ending up 19th not 8th
There is so many discussions about old - new system. Actually, "old" system presenting in this video worked just 3 years from 2013 till 2015. From 2009 to 2012 voting was combined not for all places (place jury+place televoting), but summing of scores from 0-12 jury and 0-12 televoting. (BTW, would be really interesting to know who would won with this 2009-2012 system) So, for example, Ukraine voting this year would be for this (2009-2012 years) system:
Jury points:
Lithuania 12
Belgium 10
Latvia 8
Azerbaijan 7
Israel 6
Australia 5
Sweden 4
Georgia 3
Hungary 2
Bulgaria 1
Televote:
Russia 12
Azerbaijan 10
Poland 8
Armenia 7
Georgia 6
Latvia 5
Australia 4
Lithuania 3
Bulgaria 2
Sweden 1
Total score:
Azerbaijan (7 + 10 = 17) got 12 points from Ukraine
Lithuania (12 + 3 = 15) got 10 points from Ukraine
Latvia (5 + 8 = 13) got 8 points from Ukraine
Russia (0 + 12 = 12) got 7 points from Ukraine
Belgium (10 + 0 = 10) got 6 points from Ukraine
Georgia (3 + 6 = 9, notice that its above Australia because it has highest score from televoting) got 5 points from Ukraine
Australia (5 + 4 = 9) got 4 points from Ukraine
Poland (0 + 8 = 8) got 3 points from Ukraine
Armenia (0 + 7 = 7) got 2 points from Ukraine
Israel (6 + 0 = 6) got 1 point from Ukraine
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Sweden (4 + 1 =5)
Bulgaria (1 + 2 = 3)
Hungary (2 + 0 = 2)
I think results of 2016 eurovision for 2009-2012 system should be approximately the same as 2016 voting system.
So, if anyone is bitching about "old-new" system just read a bit how often voting system was changing during last years and how it actually worked. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_at_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest
Australia the real winner thanks
Wow this is amazing! Thank you so much!!
i prefer those results
Finally, Some respect for Australia at Eurovision 🇦🇺
It would set the cat among the pigeons.
What?
You should also do one of these with the televote-only scores! Poor Poland indeed.
This is a great idea! I'll get to it straight away 😬
this is exactly how the voting should have gone
JustSarah the new voting system was invented in the wrong year...
Deniz Akdeniz I agree because Australia deserved win
woo this slays, thank you
This was pretty exciting as is.......and has a better winner.....up until 40/42 countries voting Ukraine had caught up to australia.....loved the video.....subscribed as well :)
Australia on top where it should be!
Australia should be out of the contest
Really good again! Thanks!
Funny how the change to make the voting more exciting happened on the occasion of the closest voting in years! The poor producers got a bit unlucky in a way.
IT LOOKAS AMAZING
Thank you from France :)
Would you be so kind and do a tutorial how to do the voting like this? :)
amazing!
Great job! Thank you very much.
I wish the voting system wouldn't have changed((
Dua Lipa is not from UK. She is from Albania ;)
She is from the UK but she's a Kosovo-Albanian origin. (My english is not good i know :) )
She's not Albanian wtf, she is from the UK but I thought it was Kosovar origin because Kosovo is not Albania (it's Serbia)
And what does Dua Lipa's home country do anything in this?
I must ask how did you produce the whole thing, what program did you use to construct the scoreboard? Was it powerpoint? How did you get that effect the way when the points were added to the country the colour darkened near the edges and so did the colour. I would love to know how you made such an amazing piece of work!
i do this in the same way, but somehow, in my way, australia got 327, instead of 311
What is the font letter of the scoreboard?
Hi, can you upload the old voting system of the semi finals of 2016 please?
I actually find it interesting how in every single year, the voting of both systems produces the exact same winner... Except the very year the voting system was changed
Positive things about the old system :
- Australia 1st
- Poland 19th and not top 10
- France 5th
- Sweden ouzt of top 5
Disadvantages :
- Malta 24th instead of 12th
So I go with the old voting system
Poland in 19th it's really joke from Old system...
So how did Malta go from top half to bottom 3? lol
How did you actually do the results, number and placing wise. I did it, and I got different results, but I think I did it wrong, because wen Ukraine were topping it, I thought... No, this is wrong isn't it, if it was the old method, they lost.
what programm u used to make scoring in ur video? tell me pls
How did you combine the jury and televoting rankings? Did you use the method they used circa 2013-2015 (all 26 songs bar finalists' own songs)? Did you combine jury and televoting ranks for all 42 countries? Bear in mind that, if the EBU had used the 2015 method again in 2016, in the case of San Marino, the EBU would have just used the jury votes alone, and not calculated a substitute televoting result.
how did you calculate each countries scores??
How I can download design?
Which software did you use? that looks amazing
I used Apple's Keynote to make everything and add animations, and iMovie to stitch all of the parts together - they're both free on Mac!
nice job!
can you do a tutorial :3
Exactly how the result should have been. Australia was the true winner
How did you figure out the numbers like this?
What application are use??
How did you calculate the votes into the old system? I mean there has to be a difference between calculating votes into the old and into the new system. I'm just wondering because I think there are some nice changes in the old system.
Positives: Lithuania, Latvia, Serbia, Belgium, the Netherlands, Spain & Cyprus came higher, Germany isn't on the last place and the (in my opinion) better song won.
(Negatives: Czech Republic on the last place, Georgia came higher, no changes in too high position of Armenia & Russia)
Anyways, great video and well edited. Thumbs up :)
In old system Poland is in 19th place. Poland was the best in this year.
Where the hell would they host it
Great job! Voting would be suspenseful until the last 3 countries, which isn't that bad.
This is absolutely how the voting should've gone. These results are how it should've been. The old system didn't need to go!
Will it be possible to do a similar one with 2011.....results with the system followed in 2013-15??
please make esc 2012 with new system
Please take back the old voting system!
In case of ties in a specific country Tommy O'Donnell, did you favor the juries or the televotes?
Televotes
Georgia-20th new system
15th old system 😊
Better winner than the real show..
Why aren't those the official results :( (btw nice edit)
If the old systed would have used we would be in Australia now lol
Can you make an 2017 Version?
Definitely!
Tommy O'Donnell :D
Great ! What is your software for voting ?
Keynote for Mac and iMovie :)
Did you calculate this yourself? By pure chance, so did I...
WHERE DID YOU FIND THE FONTS?
The job is really nice, thank you!
The main font is Gotham which you can find on the Internet, but I presume you mean the country-specific typefaces! I just took a screenshot of them and removed the backgrounds using Pixelmator
ok, i understand! you can watch my top of this year on my channel if you want)
Does anyone know the results with the 2009-2012 system?
Yes, I do. Something tells me I should make a video...
thank you so much that you chose for UK Dua Lipa, because she is from KOSOVO. Thank you so much and for this great video, congratulation, I hope that Kosovo accepted in Eurovision Song Contest 2017 in Ukraine
I love Dua, and I'd love to see Kosovo at the contest!
How did you make this 😍
I used Keynote and iMovie 😊
OId system 12 points...
Australia (8) - Iceland, Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway, Croatia, Hungary, Albania and Sweden
Ukraine (8) - San Marino, Georgia, Moldova, Latvia, Serbia, Italy, Slovenia and Poland
Russia (5) - Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Belarus, Greece and Montenegro
France (4) - Austria, Spain, Israel and Belgium
Sweden (3) - Finland, Germany and Estonia
Bulgaria (3) - Ireland, Malta and FYRM
Austria (2) - Switzerland and France
Armenia (2) - Bulgaria and Russia
Hungary (1) - Czech Republic
Serbia (1) - BH
Georgia (1) - Armenia
Belgium (1) - Australia
Lithuania (1) - UK
Latvia (1) - Lithuania
Azerbaijan (1) - Ukraine
televoting
Australia would have had the 4th highest score fair and square not like Ukraine and the new voting system
I like more old system
Czechia 1 point? Seriously?
Serbia will be 14th instead of 18th place
sorry make with old system
Coincidentally, the exact same amount of points (311) that Dami won the jury vote with.
no, she won 320 points with jury
Go Australia!!!
To anyone who believes this is legitimate, it's not. Divide the real results in half and that's roughly the score that country would have gotten in the old system. The winner is still Ukraine (remember how Petra Mede kept saying that the only change was how the votes were presented- yeah, obviously some people didn't listen)
Sorry, but you're wrong. The way the public and juries vote is the same, but the calculation of the votes is different. Please don't try and assume something you clearly know nothing about whilst also knocking the quality content I produce. Check yourself before you wreck yourself, thank you. You can view the full voting results here for your viewing pleasure 😊 docdro.id/2fdMmGe
It would have been the first time since 1998 that both Belgium and the Netherlands were in the top10
aufaida sehn The Netherlands were in top 3 in 2014
@@sultanbeishenbekov3699they ment that they would be top 10 together
Australia should have won
is not really
Everyone in Spain do not understand happens to our country, because year after year ( 2012,2014,2015,2016 ) sent proposals that might be worthy of winning and we always get a pesimos posts, or top 10 high ... What you It happens with Spain , Europe ? In the end, a country he loves eurovision , cease to participate ... It's a real shame ...
Estoy de acuerdo. No creo que sea justo que España tiene canciones increíbles cada año, pero Europa nunca se da nada. ¡Espero que España tenga más éxito el año próximo! (Lo siento por mi mal español 😬)
I prefer old results :D but I am not agree with Malta and Australia.
I hope they go back to the old system...
Netherlands 11 -> 10 😲 why did there made an new system 😔
Spain +2 :(
Lol Czech Republic
My top 5:
1.Sweden🇸🇪
2.Russia🇷🇺
3.Ukraine🇺🇦
4.Australia🇦🇺
5.Poland🇵🇱 or Norway🇸🇯
sorry for the late response, nice movie, but you make small mistakes in the points of Austria France has not 12 but 7 points, Sweden, Australia and Russia scored better.
When the Points of Belarus have favored Lithuania and Sweden (both +2) at the expense of Armenia and Azerbaijan (both -2) and are also swapped Bulgaria and Poland.
figure out but you will see that it is true what I say:This is the actual result:
01. Australia 313
02. Ukraine 279
03. Russia 237
04. Bulgaria 182
05. France 166
06. Sweden 156
07. Armenia 141
08. Lithuania 100
09. Belgium 89
10. Netherlands 80
11. Latvia 75
12. Italy 71
13. Austria 66
14. Serbia 61
15. Georgia 60
16. Hungary 58
17. Azerbaijan 55
18. Cyprus 54
19. Poland 49
20. Spain 34
21. United Kingdom 30
22. Israel 27
23. Croatia 23
24. Malta 21
25. Germany 8
26. Czech Republic 1
David J How did Malta got that many points with the New system?
That's because Malta did very well at the jury and was very bad at the televoting, 137 points came from the jury.For example, Hungary gave Malta 10 jury points, but Hungary's televoting dropped Malta in 20th place. In the old system, place 2 + place 20 = 22 points, with Malta standing in 11th place and thus having 0 points Received.
The new system is especially beneficial for countries that are particularly well-trained in professional jury like, for example, Malta last year and countries that are particularly successful in televoting such as Poland last year.
Therefore, I have a preference for the old system for the right balance
Italy,Latvia,Serbia,Australia,Spain are better in the old sistem
Austria wouldn't gve 12 points to France but 2 SWEDEN!!!
Australia wins with 320 pts :/
Esc potato Not, wins with 320 pts for jury and televote mixed (Old voting system)
Это выдуманные баллы.....вообще не правда.... Россия дала Украине ( по зрительскому) голосованию 10 баллов, а здесь их вообще нет....бред
Это средний балл по местам. Зрители России дали Украине 2 место, а жюри 23. Получилось 13 место в итоге. Не топ 10, ни одного балла.
????This is so wrong!
???
Chezh Republic Didn't got only 1 point. From Croatia it should have 5 points, cause they give them 10 points by jury and 0 by televoting. Croatia points (first Televoting, Second Jury, third all resultates)
Russia 8 6 14
Ukraine 10 0 10
Poland 4 0 4
Australia 5 12 17
Bulgaria 1 0 1
Sweden 7 0 7
Austria 6 0 6
France 2 8 10
Serbia 12 2 14
Hungary 3 5 8
Italy 0 3 3
Israel 0 7 7
Armenia 0 4 4
Czech rep. 0 10 10
Cyprus 0 1 1
So: 12p-Australia(17)
10p-Russia(14)
8p-Serbia(14)
7p-Ukraine (10)
6p-France(10)
5p-Czech Republic(10)
4p-Hungary(8)
3p-Sweden(7)
2p-Israel(7)
1p-Austria(6)
No, here Poland ended too low and France too high... Australia or Ukraine were fair winners to me and hahahahahaha Russia 3rd in any voting system hahaahahaha
New system is better but jury shouldn't be in the Eurovision.
Yes they should. Juries have been involved in Eurovision since its inception and the quality of the songs took a nosedive in the early 2000s after the televote was introduced, and it's gone up tremendously since 2009 when the juries were brought back.
Agree with Haz. The juries are the only way to minimalize the diaspora and neighbour voting. Both the quality of the songs and the results have changed diametrically since the juries were invited again.
Don't fancy the new system though, it's not halting the diaspora sufficiently.
Absolutely, I agree with Phillip. The bloc voting was best weeded out in this 2013-2015 system.
***** I wrote it because my country is always harmed by the jury. With the audience is different. Once we have 24 place and time 3 or 5.
***** In the old system, we always had a place 10-26. Sometimes the jury didn't want us in the final of the audience gave us a 5th place in the semi-final
Ukraine always second xd
Why are the results wrong ? You are supposed to have absolutely the same results as the official ones
Thats wrong... looks at the offical website... the top 10 hasnt changed...
The website shows the new system, this shows the old.
Ukraine
You're wrong, in the old system and the new winner had not changed, would win Ukraine with 267 points, second is Australia with 256 points and third is Russia with 246 points.
Sorry, but you're wrong. The way the public and juries vote is the same, but the calculation of the votes is different. Please don't try and assume something you clearly know nothing about whilst also knocking the quality content I produce. Check yourself before you wreck yourself, thank you. You can view the full voting results here for your viewing pleasure 😊 docdro.id/2fdMmGe
Hey Ukraine would’ve hosted the 2017 contest either way
Russia winnner
Бред ужас
Positives: Latvia and Georgija higher :)
Negatīvs: Sweden lower and AWFUL WINNER.
So I prefer the new voting system.
*negatives
+Olga Nastya your opinion - shit, Ok? YES!
Esc my opinion is okay. Your attitude is shit.
+Esc “Miit” yep I agree with olga cause australia is terrible!!!
Positives of new system: great winner
Negatives of new system: Latvia, Spain, Lithuania lower, Poland and Sweden higher.
So I prefer old system.
The real final voting are this
1. Ukraine 🇺🇦 308
2. Australia 🇦🇺 283
3. Russia 🇷🇺 276
4. Bulgaria 🇧🇬 151
5. Sweden 🇸🇪 144
6. France 🇫🇷 127
7. Armenia 🇦🇲 119
8. Poland 🇵🇱 115
9. Lithuania 🇱🇹 107
10. Belgium 🇧🇪 85
11. Malta 🇲🇹 68
12. Latvia 🇱🇻 61
13. Serbia 🇷🇸 60
14. The Netherlands 🇳🇱 59
15. Austria 🇦🇹 59
16. Italy 🇮🇹 58
17. Israel 🇮🇱 51
18. Azerbaiyán 🇦🇿 51
19. Hungary 🇭🇺 50
20. Georgia 🇬🇪 47
21. Cyprus 🇨🇾 43
22. Croatia 🇭🇷 35
23. Spain 🇪🇸 29
24. UK 🇬🇧 27
25. Czech Republic 🇨🇿 9
26. Germany 🇩🇪 3