1862 Colt Police Revolver
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- čas přidán 9. 01. 2020
- The 1862 Colt 36 caliber Police revolver was potentially the zenith of Colt percussion revolver development
In this video we discuss the pistol, paper cartridges, historical loads, and tips on how to make the modern day reproductions as reliable as the originals.
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I thought of you as soon as he used the phrase "cap and ball"....
Thanks for all your tests and educational work!
@capandball...love your content brother
I'd watch a short vid of making paper cartridges. Or even on historic style packaging.
Thank you for your fantastic content and making such awesome boxes!
3rd with a cap and ball revolver....
He legit gives depression to other contestants
@coachmilldawg good points, especially when the competition are most likely j frame sized guns with small grips
@coachmilldawg Still single action though, then again he's shot these a lot, no telling what the skill level of the other competitors were.
Just goes to show that skill and knowing your particular gun is the single most important thing in being an effective shooter
But hey, they're pretty good.
I'm guessing the other shooters' guns were modern, but the other shooters were not.
Probably still better than Ian’s COP derringer thing...
Karl, you WOULD bring a percussion revolver to the backup gun match
I love all of InRange's content, but historical topics like this are my favorite. A series looking at the practical capability of cap'n'balls is simply nirvana. ^_^
Capandball has a video up on how to make paper cartridges. Very helpful.
Plus I love the 1862.
Cowboy Karl might be my favorite Karl. Looking sharp!
I fondly remember modeling this (and a ton of other Civil War-era guns) for the 1866 Western mod for Mount&Blade nearly 10 years ago. I think I modeled something like 40 or 50 guns by the end of it. The game felt like a gun museum.
Mind linking the mod?
Karl: *i hand rolled these myself*
Me: pass that shit this way my dude
*"Light it up!"*
Then, either you'll be firing too high, or you'll be too high firing.
Or both.
They see me rollin'
They hatin'
Ian: Hey dudes and dudettes! B)
Karl: YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAW! :D
Damn, this back-up pistol match is really allows you to do what we really love InRange for. Keep up the great work. :D
I bought a 1862 a few month ago. I wanted one for a long time but those are hard to find in France. And since I received it, capandball released it's cartridge maker, Mike Beliveau (Duelist1954) uploaded a video on the 1862 explaining step by step how to improve the action and avoid cap jam by polishing the hammer. And today InRangeTV release this video!
I love this time line!
I remember when I was young a Gunsmoke episode referred to someone who had an old paper cartridge gun. I couldn’t imagine a paper cartridge since I had only been exposed to modern guns.
Can't help but appreciate how karl gets in character with his clothing. Really adds to the whole video.
Good stuff! We've seen old French gats at the backup gun match with Ian, now we get to see old west gats with Karl, can't wait for more.
When John wesley Haden was arrested on a train in Florida in 1878 he was armed with a 1860 Army percussion revolver.
"I fired 25 rounds today and suffered from no malfunctions or jams"
Meanwhile in Red Dead: 5,000+ rounds and the gun only has a slight accuracy loss
I never knew how cap and ball revolvers were loaded before. That was cool to learn.
Off-topic but love the shirt.
The whole get up looks like a miniature someone would paint.
Shield Shirts are hit or miss, that one is really nice with the brass fasteners
Rhynome all I want to see is a Karl inspired tabletop character
John Wayne looked better in them just sayin
Keep it up!!!! I'm super excited to see more of this era.
Absolute pleasure to see an 1862 Colt Police being run thru self defense paces with modern guns and holding its own very well against modern handguns. Really like and respect your channel, and have subscribed. Appreciate all the historic and modern stuff you evaluate. But I have to say seeing a cap and ball revolver being used seriously is the icing on the cake that that makes everything better!
Put a mini red dot on it.
You would maybe get 2 shots off before the soot from the powder blacked out the screen. Not to mention where would you mount it
@@bowlofrice8 Ok then just load it with smokeless powder then. Lololololol.
@@jellyman1735 while we're at it, make the cartridge a brass case and change the diameter to .355
@@jellyman1735 I prefer my hands attached to my body
With Bubbas , history loses
Beautiful little blaster! It could still be a lifesaver.
This appears to be the same match where Ian ran the COP 357. This old-tech revolver ran rings around the much later -design gun!
Speaking of hammer bounce..Bill Ruger did a press conference to show off his new Old Army cap and ball revolver. It was a Blackhawk that borrowed heavily from the Remington. Hence "Old Army". He demonstrated how strong it was by loading it with 8 grains(I believe) of Hercules smokeless powder and a standard 255 grain lead bullet and fired all six cylinders with no harm.
A guy on a blackpowder forum talked about how he wanted to replicate Bill's stunt. He loaded all six cylinders of his Old Army with smokeless powder topped off with cast lead bullets. He said he cocked the hammer and pulled the trigger and it fired all six chambers like a machine gun. The hammer had bounced so hard, that it cocked and worked the action, rotating the cylinder. Since his finger was still on the trigger and it was pulled back, that released the hammer and it got blown back again. It was basically a gas operated machine gun, fanning itself automatically.
Like I said, the Old Army was a cap and ball version of the Blackhawk made out of the same steel Blackhawks are made of and over engineered, just like big Ruger handguns usually are to handle heavier loads.
I've done "rake" modifications to several of my percussion Colt replicas and have had no cap jams with those. This modification can take several forms, but generally provides a blocking pin that prevents the burst cap fragments from entering the hammer channel when the hammer is cocked. Only the open-top percussion revolvers seem to have this problem. But cap jams were a very common problem during the percussion era as well as today. The fabrication of the Uberti and Pietta replicas is in many ways to a higher standard than the originals, as a comparison will attest. The force of the mainspring isn't a factor generally, as the problem occurs when the hammer is cocked for the next shot and the loose cap falls into the hammer channel. Also, even the original 19th century caps were sealed and very waterproof. I personally have tested this by submerging modern caps in water for long periods. Misfires of caps are generally due to the cones being seated too far into the cylinder for proper hammer impact.
I watched this video 3 years ago, and I'm back. Very well paced, entertaining and informative video. And such a sexy little pistol. Thank you
Thank you!
Extremely interesting in my opinion. I would absolutely love to see more videos like this. Thank you.
I’m genuinely so excited for this content.
Can’t wait to see more
Does anyone else think Karl looks like an NPC in a Windows 98 era point and click adventure at the end of the vid?
This is really awesome content, Karl! Glad you are able to make use of the backup gun match in your own way
The other day I was wondering why no one made paper cartridges for these old things, glad to see someone else thought of that too.
Was looking into trying cap and ball revolvers. Thank you Karl for the information on how to make it more reliable and showing how fun it would be to shoot these replicas of older firearms.
So refreshing to get a glimpse of history from a passionate/honest educator. And this... on a topic we all love. Thanks Karl. You bring it all to life.
Outstanding! I'm absolutely stoked to see more content like this. Keep up the great work.
I have a similar Colt reproduction that I've been shooting for decades. It was fun when I was 12 years old and still is fun to shoot! Really enjoy how you mix the old and new in your videos!
Love it. Great tip on the Hammer bounce, I finally know why percussion caps fall into the trigger mechanism.
Definitely loving all the old west content, and seeing old guns run like this is great, getting to see things one usually only finds in a book! Looking forward to the rest of this series!!
I love seeing these old historic firearms being used, I find the far more interesting than modern 9mm handguns and AR15 variants where once you have seen one you have seen them all.
Honest to god, this is the content I've been waiting for... I love cap and ball/conversion revolvers and there is not near enough content on CZcams for them!
Very much looking forward to this series
Thanks for sharing Karl looking forward to seeing more of this content in the future.
This might be my very favorite BP pistol !
Thanks for showcasing it ! Subscribed! !
*Easily the best looking aesthetically of the period percussion revolvers.*
Seriously. Great proportions, while keeping the clean lines of the slightly bigger revolvers of its period. Gotta love it.
I would say nothing beats the LeMat for looks, but this is a close second.
Make mine a 5 1/2" pocket navy please.
Perfection, to my eye.
@@olddirtbiker5088 The LeMat is fugly my dude.
While venerable, the lack of a "top strap", being supported so awkwardly, makes it ugly, unbalanced, delicate and frankly ridiculous. The originals bent quite easily.
A perfect video since I want to get a 1862 Police ASAP! From all I gathered it’s a great fun and historical piece. Black powder is a fine thing as well. Kind Thanks and Good Shootin! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
I really like this idea for a video series, Karl! Keep them going!
Fantastic video! Can’t wait for the next one.
Looking forward to seeing future segments like this. Thanks.
Very informative Karl! Thanks so much. You have whetted my appetite with content like this and your Old West Vignettes, subjects that I had little interest in before! More please in 2020!
Rich.
First of all, I got to say, wow! so excited to see more black powder content, I am a huge black powder nut.. the first gun I ever purchased was a Uberti 1860 Army w/ fluted cylinder.. scoured the internet and bought every grease, oil, solvent, wad and accessory you could buy from powder flasks to measurers, different powders, caps, balls, and eventually I came across the slix-shot cones. Still have cap jams. Could never figure out why, and I think it's because of my usual range load of 40-45 grains of 777. I've only just recently transitioned to real black powder, softer shooting of course, but the whole idea of the hammer flying back is amazing, I really do thing that could be the problem, and my heavy charges of course.. I will try lighter loads and see if the gun operates more smoothly. I was amazed watching you smoothly transition from target to target, and my first thought was "what? no cap jams?" I think you truly, truly showed how these pistols were quite formidable, even back then. Love the channel and I am really looking forward to the 1860 content.. I think it would be interesting if you did some ballistic data with tradition conical pistol projectiles and round balls..
Gave me a chuckle at cap jams becoming almost a thing of the past
Great video. I've always liked the look of the old percussion revolvers. This makes me want to get into them. Thanks Karl.
Thank you! I have been having some problems with my uberti 1951 this vid just about solves all of them.
Very good advice on preventing cap jams. Well said.
I think the content of this video is awesome. Have not seen BP practical shooting on any other channel. Please keep on with this content.
Great video. I really enjoyed it.
Thanks for this video Karl, I'm looking forward to seeing this type of firearm in a competitive environment
Thank you for this article and the tips!
Great timing, I was just thinking about ordering one of these. Cap & ball revolvers and muzzleloading pistols are effectively the only proper-size handguns we can have in the UK.
Don't tell the authorities about this!! They don't want the random blade-wielding events where people share cultural enrichment with people walking or sitting on tube/buses. (Might get accused of trying to roll back things to the 1880s,, yep, the murder and assault rate might drop to those levels.)
As percussion revolvers are the only 'real' handguns we are allowed in the UK, this content is brilliant. I have always been put off by the faff in having to load them, having watched those with this firearm type at the range. Karl has just showed a much better way and with great tips. I think I need to find myself a percussion revolver!
If you REALLY want to make life easier with cap and ball...try to get a pair of the 5.5" barrelled Ruger Old Army pistols..... Not authentic essentially a Blackhawk reworked to cap and ball - coil springs instead of leaf etc) but utterly reliable... and just as much fun...
@@trooperdgb9722 thanks trooperdgb. I have started to look at the old army pistols. They seem more available (and a LOT cheaper - average police revolver is £2500) authentic is nice, affordable is better :)
I did not know anyone was producing this revolver. Neat. I might consider getting one.
Thanks for the tip on slixprings. I never heard of them before, but consolidating my caps all to one type and the vent hole sounds like great ideas.
I'm really looking forward to this series of videos!
This is so cool, I am really excited to see more of these
It should be noted too that at this time for most people a Bowie knife was still the primary for civilians and the saber was still the the primary of the cavalry. So the capacity and reload speed of a revolver like this would have been less of an issue. It's cool to see them get used like this.
Many thanks for the video! Looking forward to the next one featuring C&P revolvers.
The biggest thing I have happen is caps falling off when another was shot thank you for giving me a way to fix that.
I bought one new from a major big box sporting/outdoor store several years ago. From the get-go it would almost never fire on the first hammer strike and often wouldn't fire on the second or repeated hammer strikes. I really love the classic look and feel of the revolver, but I dare say I'd love it even more if I could count on it to fire when it's supposed to.
Fantastic video! Please keep these coming.
Yeah please keep this series going
This is freaking awesome! Some gun channels won’t do videos of cartridge revolvers, and you do cap and ball. This kinda shit is why I’m subscribed.
You handed that revolver like a pro, Karl. Very excited for the new video series. I like the idea of a practical, 2GACM for guns of the old west.
the info on the ammo kits and cones was very helpful.
Excellent video, very much looking forward to seeing more!
Love it! Definitely want to see more. Thanks for the video.
Really looking forward to the series of videos.
That was very enjoyable Karl. My next purchases are going to be a pair of those for my twin daughters! I can't wait for the next video!!
Very interesting content Karl. Thank you.
Fantastic video. Looking forward to the upcoming set of cap and ball videos.
Great information, love cap & ball revolvers. Can’t wait to see more.
Awesome content. This is the match footage we need
Outstanding! I really enjoyed the episode.
Really enjoyed this video. Cheers!
The fluted cylinder stands out so much among the other BP revolvers
You are the best gun channel on CZcams
This was really interesting! I'm glad you're going to be doing more black powder stuff.
I grew up on cap and ball Colt revolvers, your insight is spot on!
If you understand the guns and how they work, they are very reliable and can be quite effective in the hands of someone schooled in their use.
Thank you. Very informative. I really enjoy the history lesson and debunking the myths and lore that clouds the past.
HE SAID IT, but only once.
Sorry but I guess I am missing the context behind this..
@@MattSif I'm assuming nipple, but not sure
Nothin' worse than gettin' yer balls 'n' nipples in a twist.
@@MattSif The N-word.
N I P P L E S
I'm going to love this series.
Looking forward to this series of vids.
I'd love to see more civil war / old west stuff, I think your videos about lever guns are some of your best.
JUST discovered this ! Wow - Thanks !
I found this very interesting. I'm not a black powder shooter, so the video gives me some insight into as aspect of shooting that I don't know much about. And that's great!
Keep up the mid-late 1800's content, Karl. Good stuff.
So. When are you running a match dressed as Gabby Johnson from Blazing Saddles?
I have a Pietta "1862 NY Metropolitan Police" .36 revolver. Six shot, and it's fantasy as far as I can tell. But it's a really handy size and accurate too.
Loving the historic west content! Also diggin that coat/shirt you're wearing Karl. Where'd ya get that? Keep up the good work!
I do IDPA, USPSA and steel challenge as well as some other shooting sports. In fact, right now I'm killing about an hour before I leave to drive to my weekly USPSA league lol. I also do some black powder stuff. I really enjoyed this video and would live to see more. Thanks, enjoy all your content.
Excellent. Can't wait for more
i love it. this is a great idea for a series. (also.... write your book on this).
No matter how advanced the tech, it always comes down to the operator.
I have trouble getting handguns so I use a rem 1858 new army for self defense. I use 40grs of 777 and it's very hot load however. The design of the rem doesn't jam on caps much I've found even if they blow apart. They don't jam the gun. It's been very reliable with cci 11 caps recently I got a cartridge conversion for it. I used it for yrs as cap and ball tho and it's very effective but does take some know how! Love these old guns looking forward to seeing the rest!
I have to say 👍👍 for this kind of content. Looking forward to more.
Dope. I love this. Been thinking about getting the black powder cylinder for my Uberti 1858 new army conversion.