Amazing Chord-Melody Guitar Playing & Tone With Tim Lerch
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- Utterly masterful playing and wisdom from our new mate, Tim!
Welcome to the show! Here's something a little bit special today…
Tim Lerch is a guitar player with a highly developed understanding of harmony and melody. Schooled in part by revered jazzer, Ted Greene, Tim has gone on to become a seasoned professional musician and educator.
Needless to say, we are delighted to welcome him to the show, where we discuss aspects of Tim’s development to date; theoretical and practical approach to chord-melody playing, and of course some discussion around sound and tone.
A few things are mentioned in the video, these are they…
• Tim’s website: www.timlerch.com/
• CZcams: / telebasher
• Tim at TrueFire: bit.ly/3WhEzfr
• Chord dictionary: guitarvivo.com/the-melodic-ja...
Pedals & stuff in today’s episode
• JAM Pedals Harmonious Monk Mk2
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Interesting bits & go-to sections
0:00 Intro playing
0:47 Welcome & introductions
2:32 Tim’s early years
6:26 Ever had a proper job?
7:54 Nerve damage?
10:32 Recognise & develop a melody
13:16 Becoming an educator
16:14 Philosophy on teaching
19:11 Balancing educating with playing
21:44 Learn, practice, play!
26:27 Melodic Jazz Guitar Chord Dictionary
29:59 Learning to play chord melodies
37:52 Tim’s introduction to jazz
40:41 Music in the absence of sound
43:27 Isolate the parts and orchestrate
46:25 Voice leading with basic chords
49:12 What’s each voice doing?
51:37 Understand YOUR musical vocabulary
54:46 What are the chords implying?
56:20 Learning with Ted Greene
1:08:05 Tim’s time on CZcams
1:16:36 Neck wiggling advocate!
1:18:36 Tim’s tone?
1:20:00 Tim’s right hand
1:24:17 Guitar setup
1:26:05 Draw the tone out
1:28:00 Length of the note
1:32:00 Silent trumpet?
1:33:56 Serving the song
1:35:52 Thank yous
1:37:38 Tim plays us out
Guitars in this video
• 1965 Fender Telecaster - Dan’s video here: • Pimp Your Vintage Guit...
• Fender Custom Shop Nocaster with Lollar Charlie Christian neck pickup
Big thanks to Jon Green for the loan of the Nocaster.
Amps in this episode
Fender ’65 Princeton Reverb with Jensen C10R speaker
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Fender ’65 Deluxe Reverb with Jensen C12-K speaker
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Thanks guys! The advice my Dad gave me (which I forgot to get around to sharing) was “Timmy why don’t you play a song I can recognize and play it all the way thru! “ Wisdom from a mostly non musical man Kenneth Lerch.
Been trying to get my son to learn a song all the way through, not just the “cool parts”, lol
Ha! Thats brilliant. Reminds me of something Tommy Emmanuel said by way of Chet Atkins, paraphrasing of course, “keep the melody true.” Sometimes we can get lost in the fun of Re harmonizing and extending the voicings but its all only as “good” as the top and bottom: the melody and groove. Even if you just playing the melody, with good feel and soul, single notes, itll be compelling
You have an amazing skill and depth of knowledge. When Rick Beato says this is what’s missing from modern music you are that thing sadly passing away generationally over time. Haha what a gift this interview was.
yup!
hey tim
mick woulda been fascinated by your time “away” 😉
"The biggest mental obstacle to learning guitar is wanting too much, to biggest obstacle to practicing guitar is wanting too soon, and the biggest obstacle to playing guitar is wanting anything." - Tim Lerch, everyones new favorite dude.
Tim is one of my favorite players and one of my favorite humans. Thanks for the shout out all.
"My contribution to zen literature was to abstain from writing a book."
I LOVE IT!
Reminds me of Tomo Fujita's "don't expect too fast".
This is how you discover playing guitar is not only about playing guitar.
Beautifully said!
Yeah - I have to say, I've watched this video several times and what Tim has to say is priceless! I've got a Masters Degree in music so I kinda know what I'm talking about (generally) and the way he explains the voice-leading and the blurred lines between melody and harmony - the importance of following the voices on a single string.. and then across strings - is perfect. Only one thing to add... when Mick asks what Diatonic music/scales are... Tim doesn't explain that well... he's correct to some extent but doesn't explain the fundamental concept: A scale or musical scheme/structure is called Diatonic when it is based around traditional (western harmony) scales which use 2 intervals - the "whole tone" and the "semi-tone"... Two tonal intervals... Diatonic. Simples! Great video... inspiring! Thanks Tim, Mick and Dan!!!
This is the most profound guitar interview I've ever listened to. Provacative questions, fascinating answers, and the interviewers gave the space for it all to happen. Thank you!
I can’t stress enough how important a service you guys have provided with this interview. Too long jazz and rock guitar players have existed in relatively segregated communities. Rock guitarist supposedly know nothing about music, and jazz guitarists supposedly know nothing about tone. Both stereotypes are false, and so it’s important that interviews like this demonstrate that bridges can be built and divides narrowed. If only we stop to listen.
Tim Lerch is the Bob Ross of guitar instruction. I'm both more skilled AND more relaxed after listening to him. Absolutely terrific episode, gents.
"I want it to sound like the guitar player knows the song" is really an important observation. Thanks Tim!
Great episode, with many great moments. One of my favorites was when Tim mentioned he went off the grid for like 13 years, without picking up a guitar, and Mick’s expression gets wider and wider until it clearly said “dear God, Tim is Obi-Wan Kenobi”.
One of the best TPS episodes ever guys. I love hearing Tim play and educate so much, and you guys really engaged him on topics that were interesting.
A good teacher knows the material well, a great teacher has enthusiasm about the topic. Enthusiasm is contagious and makes a student want to learn.
It’s hard to articulate in a CZcams comment just how brilliant this episode was. Utterly inspirational stuff. I suspect this is one of those which I’ll come back to over and over.
I wasn’t familiar with Tim, but I feel like I’ve just been led down the first couple of feet of a very long rabbit hole!
I feel like Tim did the first time he saw Ted Greene. I'm the happiest moron on CZcams today. I am in awe of Tim Lerch's talent and loving, humble character. Thank you all for a fantastic episode.
So great to hear from Tim Lerch. His TrueFire courses have been great fun, and his overall approach is inspiring.
Dan and Mick's faces during this are amazing. Some disbelief, amazement and all around mind blown looks. Love it. Tim Lerch is a GOAT.
this guy is an absolute gangsta. legend. lovely playing and knowledge
Tim Lerch has been a friend to the show, and you've done him justice by documenting this...thank you!
I builded my telecaster because of Tim. He is an absolute legend!!
Me too!
I’ve got 4 Teles, one with a neck Charlie Christian pickup that requires assembly.
Tim Lerch: "Put some angels in there".
That's the new term for harmonics... from here on out!
I love Tim's "candle" methaphor about teaching-- that's the way I've always approached it. He & i are from the same generation and have the same approach to life and music....
I LOVE finding someone like that, i wish we could pal around together for a couple days, at least. Time well spent!
I’m glad that you promoted his book! After hearing Tim play, I purchased it immediately as a Father’s Day gift for pops
1h40min??? Wow!! More of these, please
What an absolute beast Tim is, not to mention the fact he seems like one of the nicest people on the planet. One of my favorite TPS episodes yet..
Oh I'm glad to know more about him, and felt very identified with his 13 years kink, because I have been like that for the last 8 years, but guitar lifts me up every single time.
Wow. He speaks in a way my brain understands.
As far as I can remember, Tim and Rick Beato are the ONLY guests that ever talk about amp levels!!! GOOD LORD!! I love this man, Tim. Tim even brings up proper nail sounds, cutting and sanding.
35 mins in - this chord melody stuff is incredible. Mick is spot on, Tim's demo of moving up the scale over a set of changes is the clearest demonstration I've ever seen of how you begin to move on from just playing a set of shapes you've learned. What a great teacher Tim is.
When That Pedal Show don’t post a video about pedals but what they did post BLOWS MY MIND!!!!!!!!! It clicked! Woah, Thank you. Gonna be watching this beauty a few times over.
Tim is the Bob Ross of guitar. Calming and gentle.
I absolutely love that your videos are not peppered with annoying ads all over the place.
Those annoying ads are how most CZcamsrs keep doing what they’re doing. We sell merch as our main source of funding. Cheers.
It is fun to see Mick going the exact opposite way as me. I used to be a semi pro jazz piano player, transferred that to guitar and only now am I learning how to play rock. I can tell you all about chord extensions, rootless voicings and blue notes, but i’m in awe for people who can rock a steady groove AC/DC style…
Never would have expected Tim on TPS! He's youtube's best guitar dad :)
Been loving Dan & Mick for a while now…but I stumbled across this one, and just a few minutes in I thought, “This is the Best Thing I’ve Seen On CZcams!”
I’m an old geezer, and the thought of watching 2 grown men fanboy grates. BUT, watching D & M watch, learn, and talk with Tim Lerch was GLORIOUS!
Doesn’t matter if you don’t play jazz. The concepts will open your mind & make you a better player, composer, arranger - no matter what you play. Bravo Dan, Mick, and Tim Lerch!
so many answers here. I have only been aware of you, Tim for a couple of months, but the waving of the guitar looked very familiar--Ted Greene. I also took a lesson from Ted in the mid 1980 at his parents' house. He is my age, but he looked like a teen ager at the time (he was about 40.) He gave me so much information, I couldn't absorb it. I bought one of his books a few years back hoping that maybe I had grown into some of the knowledge--nope. I have bought your chord dictionary, and started working with it. Finally the third try might just work. Thank you for your videos, your insight and your method of explaining. Things make sense now and I can use the concepts. and because of this video, I feel OK going back to finger style after only using a pick for years.
Tim is a remarkable example of discipline and devotion. He’s honest about the necessity of returning to teaching which I’ve heard him share about before, and now we have this gift of his teaching. Plus this remarkable amount of footage with you two legends. Between this and Beatos interview with Lanois, it’s been a perfect week on the Tube.
Forget Clapton, Page, Blackmore etc.... Tim Lerch is a true 'guitar god'. And a wonderful, humble and deeply inspirational guitarist! Thanks so much for having him on your show... (from Brisbane, Oz)
Tim and Keith are my mental homebase.
Had the opportunity to take some lessons from Tim and he completely changed my perspective on jazz guitar and really opened up the instrument for me. What an incredible guy.
I will need to watch this video over 3-5 years. To break it down and learn one thing at a time!
12:56 - the smile on Mick’s face sums up everything. Picture perfect.
Tim Lerch, Bodhisattva. We give thanks! 🙏🏼 👊🏽💥
I found Tim with that very first video “why should piano players have all the fun” and been a follower since then. Loved all the early gear reviews. Always knew there was some special in the fingers.
This was a great presentation/. So informative, so much to assimilate and nearly all made so understandable. I love watching the presenter's faces --in awe much of the time, as many of us were. Thank you so much for this.
When people say tone is all in the fingers… Tim literally and technically explains how and why in this video. I’ve been waiting for something like this for a long time!
I live in Seattle as Tim does, I've attended multiple workshops, live performances, got an in-person lesson with him, I can tell you - he is as amazing as he seems - deeply knowledgeable, smart and articulate, and a mensch besides
“Step on that Monk!… 🎶” Just incredible.
I don't know how he did it, but Tim just left me completely disheartened and utterly inspired at the same time here 😅
I also love how Mick asks a question at 38:00 trying to bring it back to us mere mortals and Tim follows it up with another masterclass that just leaves me going "wut?"
So great to see you guys host Tim. Such an awesome guy!!
Oh my god! You got Tim on!!!!! His book is a game changer. Love you all!❤
Tim is another one of the guitar players that I could listen to reading Hamm radio regulations and be totally involved.
I love when a person can reveal new dimensions to something that you've been looking at for years - and then all of a sudden, they shed light on an entire world of perspective that you just couldn't see a moment before they showed you where to look. Thank you Tim and that pedal show crew!
I love seeing Mick soaking in so much somewhat “spiritual” knowledge from someone from an idiom that isn’t his home but the depth and the authenticity of the connection resonates so deeply with him.
Ted Greene’s “Solo Guitar” is such a pure and beautiful album to listen to.
I concur! Mick here. :0)
Best guitar lesson Ever. Thank you.
Wonderful interview!! If I closed my eyes - I'd have thought I was listening to Jeff Bridges talking guitar
Mick you're right. Listening to Tim's eloquence in explaining concepts is wonderful. What a great teacher. Thanks for having him on your show! :D That comment "Harmony is nothing but melody swimming together..." What a remarkable concept and philosophy! Thanks Tim.
Thank you for this. I've been feeling really down today, world seems like a scary place, and this is just pure joy finding beauty in music.
Wow… I’ve genuinely lost count of how many nuggets of gold I’ve just heard! I’ve not even got to the end of the video yet! 🤯 ♥️
'There should be more beauty in this world'...such a lovely mantra.
this is like a holy document, a record of a guru's teachings. such devotion to pure, simple beauty that i could honestly weep. thank you for sharing
Super important lesson for a 59yo kid who studied jazz and theory in my younger years and found after all those years of playing chord melody, that I REALLY only had memorized grips and melody by ear. This is a fantastic blueprint for me to now understand wtf I’m doing. Thanks, Gents!
Watched it again, what a gem of an episode.
Tim is a true Gem. Amazing depth. He's the real real deal.
Starting to feel like a grownup as I can finely appreciate music and musicians with harmonic complexity! Better late than never, bravo
Tim is such a joy to see play live - a fine, fine musician. But it is plain that his real calling in life is to teach. Thanks for this wonderful episode.
Wow, talk about timing! Just this morning I went to my daughter's classroom at a HS for the preforming arts. She teaches JR High age autistic people aged 11-14. I stated piano lesson at 11 and bought myself a guitar at 14. I had practiced nearly every day the previous week but only on pieces which had stuck with me. I wanted the to hear why I still play (at 5-6 times their age). I was not there to teach them to play but to show them they can teach themselves by listening and doing. Because I am my audience and my teacher I have only need for an instrument to continue enjoying that relationship of cooperation. I needed them to see the passion at work as I explained how what I play is the result of what I did with what I heard. I did not touch on my physical issues related to playing because neither I nor they should focus on limitations. At times I am still instructed in playing by simply watching as my hands did things I had not planned. Creative musicians don't sit staring at a blank page willing it to be filled in so they can play. The play and them remember and then record and them edit the also change the way they play a piece (even of their own) over time.
i found Tim from his youtube videos about that CC pickup. I was amazed by his tone and purchased those expensive pickups myself. It’s awesome to know that I wasn’t the only one who noticed how incredible Tim is.
This will be watched multiple times by me this weekend and in the future.
I like a face of that gentleman in black shirts while Tim was playing, he was about to run but same time he was stunned hahahhaha. Good show guys and thanks to Tim for his marvelous playing.
Wow! How has this gentleman never been on my radar??? I’m going to need to watch this one a couple times because all the knowledge and all his thought behind it…I want to make sure I get it all. What a great episode guys! Thank you! Also I totally just went and ordered his chord dictionary book!
What a lovely conversation. Such a great way to learn how to practice and play more beautifully. Thank you all!
One of the nicest, passionate, humble and masterful artist right now. Tim is a jewel as a human being and as an artist. So good! Best wishes from Mexico City guys, big fan!
Love this! Tim’s Chord Dictionary is a game changer for those of us learning chord melody - the search function on the PDF version is so helpful. Thank you for highlighting Mr Lerch’s vast wisdoms ❤
Tim, you video on hand health with Dr. Yule was fantastic. Thank you all. Great stuff!
thank you very much to all of you 3 for this wonderful conversation!
watching this again Tim is mesmerising .
so happy to see Tim here he's such a talented player and educator
Tim's so good. Jazzy stuff usually doesn't connect with me. But Tim plays with such conviction and feel, your hooked
What a refreshing, informative and just wonderful video. So much of the content in the guitar community has turned into either just rigs, workflow, or how to be a "working player". To hear a conversation about music is just so welcomed. Don't get me wrong, I love gear and this channel in particular, you gents are an unbelievable and coveted source of helpful information and entertainment. But wow man, just such a breath of fresh air. Thank you.
Oh my God what a cross-over I did not expect this in a million years
YOU ROCK!!!!!! Thank you for having an absolute favorite on the show. Tim Lerch is amazing!
At the 40 min and 43 min marks… perfectly articulated.🙏🏼
This episode offered an uncountable amount of motivation to play and learn and also helped me understand much better the why of playing and practicing- thanks Dan and Mick!
I don't know how to play, I bought the guitar to try something that would disconnect my brain from the work of numbers, deadlines and taxes that I have in my day to day and that takes up many hours... the best purchase of my life!!! Today I have five guitars, I get home and play the little I know, but it is so relaxing and so much playing quietly disconnects me, that my head falls, sometimes shortly after playing it I leave it on the sofa and lie down to sleep!!!... the guitar for me has been my best psychologist to disconnect from the "world".
The way Dan looks at Tim says it all 😊... Tim is an absolute geezer and his playing is sweeter than molasses. So glad he's on the show!
I’ve been following Tim’s work for a while and love it. Even my 7 year old daughter loves it and he inspired her to play. Thank you Tim
Amazing interview and generous sharing from Tim! Thanks so much for hosting. I was nodding my head in agreement and understanding all the way thru ..
Tim is a freaking legend, I have followed him since the early years of CZcams. His warm and comforting voice combined with his exquisite playing always gave me the ‘feeling like home’. Thank you!
Wow! Gonna hafta watch this at least twice. Bill Frissell next please....
@ThatPedalShow : & everyone, Salut ! 😎 for all those who have watched the vid & are still wondering just what the very best piece of music advice Tim ever got that never got mentioned in the end (which Tim said was from his father) as Mick&Dan skillfully distracted him with 'tangents' ... 😊
I just communicated with my friend Tim & the advice was...
Father:- “Timmy, why don’t you play a song I recognize and play it all the way thru ! ” ....
& very sage advice too, imo 😎
Wonderful interview with a wonderful interviewee! While i love Tim Lerch, i’m very impressed with the interviewers! Very thoughtful, open minded and open hearted conversation! Bravo!
Thanks Mick and Dan! It was a great day with you guys and Katherine and Rosie too at TPS Towers. Tim’s Guitar Breaks workshop was an awesome experience too! So many chords, so little time….!
Easily in the top 5 TPS episodes of all-time. Crazy inspired playing, teaching, mentoring, and musicality. Thanks to all, esp Mick and Dan's insightful questions and giving the space for the information to be so wonderfully shared.
That was the most most amazing and enjoyable educational fun video that I have ever watched. "Most of the notes are right there." Will we ever be the same again.Thank you so much.
Guys I’m only half way through and I’ve got to say this is one of the most brilliant guest episodes, I love the way you are both listening so intently to Tim’s every word and soaking it all in! Utter respect on show and it’s echoed by me, to you for creating a channel that’s such a valuable and entertaining resource for all ✌️
What a monster of a player too, so understated and relaxed 😎
I love it. This style of jazz guitar always reminds me of being a kid on a rainy day, watching Mr. Rogers.
I’ve been playing guitar for about 30 years. Never took a lesson in my life. I recently started with a Truefire course from Tim. I’m struggling so hard with some of the stuff he does effortlessly, and I love it. Totally sparked my excitement for the guitar again. Thanks Tim! 🙏
The best youtube content that I would have never known how to search for (means I was brought here by accident). Thanks for a great show!
Aha! Welcome Bret, glad you enjoyed it sir. Tim is a truly inspiring human!
@@ThatPedalShow I'm now subscribed here and on Tim's channel. Truly an awesome 2 for 1 find. Looking forward to catching up on all of your content.
Tim is such a treasure. I usually get easily bored with learning music theory, but he is so clear and makes it very interesting to learn. Thank you, Tim, Dan and Mick for this amazing video.