Ep. 2. Bilstein 5100 Adjustable Leveling (REVISED) Install 2004 Sequoia How To 1stGenOffRoad.com
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This 1stgenoffroad.com DIY instructional describes the installation of the Bilstein 5100 adjustable front shock on a 1st gen 2004 Toyota Sequoia.
1. BILSTEIN 5100 ADJUSTABLE SHOCK: www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p2...
Amazon Links for Tools Used:
2. Spring Compressor: amzn.to/2L641iw
3. Makita Angle Grinder: amzn.to/2L97gWf
4. Metal cut off wheels: amzn.to/2kAgVtC
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On these rusty gen1 i always use heat first on the bolts before trying to remove. A small benzine blow torch or whatever from homedepot. Going to install some billsteins this weekend. Thanks for your awesome videos and website
got done with this earlier, makes more sense to loosen the top 3 first before trying to remove the bottom bolt.
Job well done, lol "prayer and petition" for that bottom bolt was hilarious. I've actually got this to do on my '05 toyota tundra - 3 mechanics have refused to do the work based on the level feature of the 5100 for safety (they don't think it's gonna hold all the weight up front, coilover seat would buckle). I am going to have to do some of my own prayer and petition when the time comes to replace front struts, Bilstein approves the use of them of the vehicle. Will be reviewing your video again for some advice.
Thanks for the upload!
We've moved thousands of sets of 5100s and don't think we've seen a spring seat failure.
I liked your clip. Informative and entertaining. Thank you .
Nice job! I have been looking for a video like this.
If you load the torque wrench to its highest setting, and then drop it 6 feet onto solid concrete, it recalibrates it.
instaBlaster.
OMG. He made me twitch when I saw him use the torque wrench to loosen the hardware
What amazes me is that tiny ride height adjustable clip carry's all that weight and pressure. I'm blown away by just that. And yo moved it very easy with those small pliers.
exactly what i was thinking.
Me three! That skinny clip supporting all that makes me nervous! Anybody know of that clip failing?
Me four.
did use your stock spring. do u reccomend keeping stock springs and just swapping the front struts with 5100s. i have a 2001 4wd tundra 143k. i want to level it and the springs seem in good condition.
Thanks for putting this video together. You pointed out something that may just be the issue I'm having. I installed these 5100's on my tundra but have had a very light drivers side clunk ever since. I remember the kit only coming with one strut bushing as you mentioned, and think I only installed one. If so, it's very likely that is where the sound is coming from. Looks like I'll need to tear everything apart again and double check.
Probably the issue. Either reuse the bushing on or pickup a set at autozone.
My is doing the same did you ever fix the problem and if so what did u do
Yes. I did same I believe.
Not able to go back and repeat job as am in crap health now, but SUPER important to know/share.
Still can't believe Bilstein doesn't provide the new bushing and supply better install instructions. 🙄
What happen to the two flat washers provided that you’re suppose to add it onto your vehicle if you raised it. I spoke to bilstein rep. And was advices that I should use the two flat washers when I raised. If I left it standard or as it was then no need to use the two flat washers.
Holy rust buckets Batman!!
Thanks for the video. I am getting ready to do this on my 2013 Toyota Tundra is a 2WD my front is about 3 inch's lower than the rear. It came this way from the factory. What should I set the shocks too. To match the rear?
Half way should look nice
If u get both front tires off ground swaybar link wont fight ur removal and u can avoid dealing with them.
Been watching your videos for a while and been looking on your website. In your opinion, are lower control arms necessary for a 2.5 inch lift? I see the OME kit can come with or without it. Mainly looking to fit 255/80/r17s and level the Sequoia. Its a 03 2wd. Freedom off-road UCAs look like poor quality, and I don't really want to dump close to $3000 in a vehicle that's worth a little more than that with just adding lift and tires... Also, do you have an opinion on the Rancho Quick lift struts?
Love watching your video’s I have a 2004 sequoia Getting ready for the transformation I will be using your format almost to the tee Is there anything you might have done differently Thank you for letting us save money and learn from your mistakes
Glad you like the channel. One thing I would have done differently is NOT gone with Bilstein 5100s in the rear. They’re great in the front. Too short in the rear.
@@1stgenoffroad this is the issue I’m having currently after installing them in the rear too, what can/should I do to level it since the rear is sitting lower than the front
@@1stgenoffroad What do you recommend in the rear for a 2001 Sequoia if keeping stock ride height?
I dont take the sway bar link off actually I use the sway bar as a pry point to get the bottom strut bolt back in. You really dont need to index the strut closely . It will spin a bit when its installed to get the bottom mount in .
I advise against spinning the strut with the spring under tension assembled. It can cause the retaining clip on the spring perch to spread and drop a notch and ruin the clip. Ask me how I know.
Shouldn't use the torque wrench to break loose bolts. It will throw off the calibration.
Appreciate everyone’s concern. All the harmed tools have been replaced.
If you set it to max torque but the nut comes loose before it clicks on that setting, then what's the problem?
where does one get the bushing/spacer that's in the top of the shock boot? Part number? I got boots from summit but they do not have that bushing/spacer/collar thingy
This has more action and suspense then all Bruce Willis movies combined 😱. I am confused as to what order to follow once you begin installing the washers and bushing, right before releasing the suspension coil compressors.🤔
I’m currently installing these on my sequoia and my instructions say the 3rd location on the spring seat is 1.7” of lift.
I highly recommend buying new KYB top hats which comes with built in bushing for those who plan to install Bilstein 5100s.
Got a part number? 1st gen Tacoma
What's the difference between the b8s and the HDs?
Hi Josh, Love your channel man!! I'm building my 2002 limited Sequoia. Do you know about the Locking center diff MOD that will allow me to lock my center diff on 4H not just on 4L.. It did change in 2003 and up.. but I was told that there is a MOD out there??
This guy is using a torque wrench to break bolts loose, I doubt he's doing any electrical modifications properly. Go search the forums, plenty of information there.
Great Segment
Hey nice vidz very helpful!
I have 04 sequoia just wondering if you decided later on to adjust the 5100 circlip like its on 2nd clip and want to go up 3rd clip do u still need to remove everything? Or u can just compress the spring then adjust the clip without removing the whole thing?
I think you would have to disassemble.
Thinking about getting the bilsteins 4600 or the monroe quik struts maybe even moogs quik struts style. No lift all stock. Thoughts on which is best?
Definitely the Bilstein 4600. www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p220/Bilstein4600ShocksSequoia.html#/
Once i put on these adjustable bilsteins could i put on an aftermarket coil spring to get a little more lift out of it?
Yeah. That’s what I did here. czcams.com/video/F7UYLbNct4g/video.html
Are those instructions for all gen Tacomas? I wanted to use position 5 on my 13 access cab 4x4
Don't exactly recall. Wouldn't be surprised if it did. But guys set it to the top perch all the time. May consider either high angle CV boots or a diff drop.
What's your opinion on spacers on these? I got some 3" from Supreme Suspension for my 2005 model.
I would guess you would get about 3" of lift, if you put it 3" spacers.......
All jokes aside, while you are getting the spacers installed, you might as well install new shocks while you are in there, the proper way is to install a spacer lift is to also use shocks that are the same spec lift height of the spacers you are installing. Technically, you can use stock sized shocks (they tend to be cheaper than lift shocks) but thats not recommended for vehicles that will ever go off roading.
***If you use stock sized shocks with any suspension lift, the shock will be what bottoms out first when the wheel goes all the way up into the wheel wells, the suspension should bottom out at the bump stop, which can handle the weight of the vehicle, even at strong impact. Almost all shocks are not designed to bottom out and hold the weight of the vehicle, if the vehicle comes down hard, the impact will most likely blow the shock completely out if the shock collapses as far as it can, because the rest of the suspension still has room to travel.
It will also damage the shock if the wheel travels all the way down under high force/impact. the control arms, sway bar, sway bar links, along with the shock all work together to hold the wheel assembly in place when the body lifts up. By having a shock that isn't sized to the lift, the shock maxxes its length out and is basically trying to pull the shock apart way before the other components start to restrict how far down the wheel assembly goes away from the vehicle.
If the vehicle will only be driven on roads, and is basically for looks, then a spacer lift with stock sized shocks will work fine, but its not recommended .
@1stgenoffroad I have a '07 Sequoia 4WD. If I use the 5th notch and add a drop diff, would that be okay? Or the 3rd notch is what you'll still recommend even with a drop diff?
That would be okay. But the higher you go, the more pre load there will be and the stiffer your ride will be. Another option is to put a different set of springs on the bottom notch. You’ll get 2.5” of lift and get a 1st notch quality ride: www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p625/Bilstein5100ARB2885ComboSequoia.html#/
It's called a spring seat not a "housing". Also as long as you are doing this you may as well replace the springs. The springs are cheap and they fatigue quickly. I have had great results using the Moog brand springs.
Moog sucks.
Could i add a spring that would add a lift to the front if ive already lifted it with just the adjustable shocks?
Nice man 😉👍
I would like to add some air bags to my 2006 tundra, what do you recommend?
Salvador Delgado i wanted to do the same thing but honestly air bags is a ticking bomb for it to go bad this set up is descent and good af for a gen 1
Next time I’m having you do it 😂😂😂😅
So do we assemble with the small washer first the way you showed? Your message was confusing. Thanks.
small washer first
I would really appreciate it if you'd take your time and answer my concerns, thank you.
I have a 2006 tundra 2WD. All I want to do is level the truck. I'm planing on keeping the rear shocks stock since they're good. With this being said, which Bilstein series should I buy just to level my truck? If I get the 5100 series, what level do I set it on? Can I use the same springs and/or is it recommended to change them as well?
Thank you!
I forgot to add, but can you add on your description about the bushings issue you had. Thanks! Appreciate it.
Use Bilstein 5100s. As long as your springs aren't too worn out, set to the 3rd notch. This should get you level. Here's a link for those shocks:www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p253/TundraBilstein5100RideHeightAdjustableFRONTShock.html#/
@@1stgenoffroad thank you! Do you having the bushings that are missing on your web, so I can just buy them together in one order. Thank you for your response!
I don't have the bushings. You can buy they cheap at your local auto parts store. Or do what I did and reuse the old bushing with no problems.
@@1stgenoffroad Thanks for the recommendation. I also have a 2006 2WD that I'll be putting these on the front to even out the factory rake.
Does anyone know the part number for the extra bushing we need?? I’ve been looking for hours!
Ever find it?
What part of tx are u in?
I have an 03 sequoia 2wd, I would perfectly be fine using the oem springs rights?
As the spring seat goes higher, there is more preload on the spring and the stiffer the ride becomes, but yes, you can use the factory spring.
A Jim I got a question for you. I installed the 5100 to my 2014 TOyota Tundra 4x4 Crewmax. I noticed your instructions show different than mine. I noticed in yours shows not to use clip 5. Mine didn’t. Long story short. My truck about 3 inches higher in the front compare to the rear. But my tires after the install look like the need an alignment, they pointing in. Any ideas?
Yes. 2nd and 3rd gen Tundras have different instructions. You definitely need an alignment after lifting. Let me know if you need anything else for your truck. Thanks!
1stgenoffroad
Thanks Jim for my year and model is 3rd Clíp. Did some research and made some calls. Thanks for your help Jim
Where do you live? In a salt mine?
Make sure u tighten the spring extra inche if you are doing a lift. Really hard tighten spring when it is by itself.
How much lift did you get out of it after it settled? I have a 2001 tundra 4x4 and am debating on the 3rd or 4th circlip location because I have about a 1.75" to 2 inch rake. Also how is the ride qualtiy set at that height?
1.5” after it settled.
@@1stgenoffroad that is perfect and exactly what I need! I think the Sequoia is just alittle heavier than the Tundra so it should good.
@@1stgenoffroad hows the ride quality?
the rust is real!!!
What else is recommended (parts) when adding this to a high mileage stock suspension 1st gen sequioa?
Bushings and lower ball joints.
Did a OME rear spring with 2.5 eith 5100s
What notch to level it out? 02 sequoia rwd
4th or 5th notch.
I've heard a lot about these shocks. Is it simply the shocks that allow for up to a 2 1/2" lift? No spacer or block?
Yes, reuse your factory springs and the spring seat sits on a clip. There are 5 notches that the clip can sit in. As the clip moves up, the spring is raised and the truck is lifted. From 0-2.6".
@@1stgenoffroad Thanks for the info. I'm assuming the ride height must be pre-determined and adjusted before releasing tension to the springs?
@@swordfish1120 Yheah. Each notch corresponds to a different ride height. So 1 notch = stock height, 2nd = 0.8", 3rd notch = 1.5", 4th = 2", and 5th = 2.5". Or something like that. It's listed in the instructions.
Still need to know what the two extra washers are for ? Does the instructions have a type o ? The do not fit anywhere on the strut bolt. The holes are too small.
Not sure. Didn't use them.
@@1stgenoffroad they are for lowering the bump stops on the highest ride height settings. Its in the manual.....
Hey man I just bought some Bilstein 50100 for my 2004 tundra 2wd and I want to level it. which one should I put the clip at?
No level, set them on the 2nd notch.
1stgenoffroad so if I put it on the second notch it will be leveled?
@@renel769 Oh sorry, For some reason I was thinking of the Sequoia. I'd go wit the 4th notch.
Hi
Can you tell me me abaut defront between 33-313146 & 33-187174 ?!
Thanks..
One is a left one a right I believe. Check instructions if you still have them
@@izzyrodriguez1259 والله من الدجة في هالكمخة
Your 1st Gen Sequoia is looking awesome! Quick question, what is the best replacement for front/ rear struts? Mine is the same model as yours but bone stock, it has 140K miles on it but the ride is on the stiff side now? When should i replace my shocks? I want the ride to the on the softer side, do i need to replace my bushings w/ polyurethane? Appreciate your suggestions. Keep it up! 🙌🏻👍🏻🙏
Thank you! Are you looking to lift or keep stock height?
Just keeping stock, I just want a comfortable ride.. what do u suggest? Tnx!
If you're going to keep it stock and are just looking for a better ride, I wold consider the Bilstein 4600 series front and rear shocks here: www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p220/Bilstein4600ShocksSequoia.html#/
They'll easily swap out with your existing shocks. I wouldn't go poly bushing if you're looking for a softer ride. The poly bushings are more responsive but also stiffer. Thanks!
Don't buy bilstein shocks, they are garbage. Big mistake I made ,I got Monroe huge huge difference for half price
Stay away from 4wheelparts too .they know what they are selling to customers, you ask and they don't know shit.i spent close to 500 on bilstein shocks. Even though I asked them many questions, those shocks are rough
Most of your top hats have a lower bushing built into it like the stock ones .
KYB usually do. Monroe StrutMate do not.
What are the two big washers for?
I believe they are spacers to lower the bump-stops.
Shocks can be found here: www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p21/Bilstein_B8_5100_Series_Ride_Height_Adjustable_FRONT_Shock.html
Why do you have so much rust in Texas? Was looking to buy one down there but now I don't know. Being from MN, I am sick of rust and want to get one from from the south.
This truck has spent most of its life in Arizona or Texas. But did spend 4 winters in Minnesota. There is rust, but not a game changer and the frame is still solid.
@@1stgenoffroad Thanks, yeah MN sucks for wrecking vehicles.
No spring compressor needed for toyota trucks and suvs just a jack under the control arm safest fastest and easiest way
Curious as to why you revised the video? I installed just as you did a few months ago but bought new KYB strut mounts and installed them accordingly. I did not reuse any old bushings, but used the ones that came from Bilstein.
Bilstein should have provided two bushings, one for above and one for below the strut mount. That's how the OEM shocks and springs are installed. But they only provided one bushing and instruct you to only use one. You need two. Otherwise you get a clunking sound with every little bump. .
Thanks for answering. I guess I got lucky...No clunk on mine and I drive over speed bumps everyday. Could be the new strut mounts I installed that helped.
i get that stupid clunk thank you for writing this comment you saved me from a small money pit
Glad I could help. yeah, every other front suspension setup has two bushings except for Bilstein.
I always thought the clunk was the UCA hitting the spring.
Ty
Mine only came with one bushing, one cupped washer and one flat washer. No nut or zip tie!
what are those two massive washers for?
Bump stop spacers.
I’m confused. So don’t follow the included Bilstein instructions? And what’s this bushing you’re referring to?
Nvm I found the info from the comment thread. Might want to add that to your description section of the video to avoid repeatedly having to answer or explain it.
I would like to point out that those PINS are there for safety! doesn't look like he used it but should push them in to ensure of the compressors slip they stay in place!
The pins don't fit. Yeah, it's sketchy. We upgraded to a Branick and offer assemblies now. czcams.com/video/7k3_5icAMtk/video.html
Holy rust, Batman!
That little adjustable clip holds all the tension from the spring?! That just doesnt seem right for some reason. Lol
Where was your jack point in the front?
I usually jack the vehicle up by the frame.
So your getting height from compressing the spring adding preload. Hmmm.
Nice edit, boomer.
Im only half way through the video, but i don't understand what this comment is about?
This is the exact same color mine is
Love it man looking forward to this! Wish I saw your channel when you started the build
Is this a factory spring?
Yes. Factory spring.
Using a torque wrench as a breaker bar? And I’ve come to you to learn?
It was already busted, but thanks for your concern.
C5back9, Your comment does nothing but show you're a punk.
Hello there! @1stgenoffroad (or anyone who can answer my questions) I have 2 questions. I 'm looking into buying the dobinsons 1.75" lift kit from your site. Does the Dobinsons kit also level the truck? Also, with a 1.75" kit, does it require a diff drop? I've read in some forums that if the lift is under 2", a diff drop isn't necessary. Thanks ahead for your answers. I love the channel!
It will have the same 1" rake that is has now. Diff drop is not necessary for this lift.
@@1stgenoffroad so could I do a setup with the 4600 shock kit and 2.75 front springs and 1.75 rear? To level it out and still lift it.
Did he say SOCKET WRENCH!!!??? Lol
How is the ride compared to stock?
Stock rides better.
@@1stgenoffroad Really??
@@rupertohernandez9712 When you lift your truck, ride usually suffers. These aren't Fox or Icons.
@@1stgenoffroad Did you ever level the back? if so what did you use? Do bilstein also make adjustable struts for rear lift ?? thx for taking time to answer.
Yeah don't use a harbor freight spring compressor. I did on a Sequoia and the pressure of the spring twisted that tool up like a pretzel. The spring was literally tearing the tool apart. Had to run to the parts store to get a different one just to get the harbor freight one off and to finish the job. Very dangerous situation.
I also used the Hazard Fraught spring compressor. I had to be super careful the rods didn't twist/rotate around the spring as I tightened the bolts. Definitely was a little dicey, just go slow and careful and do a few turns on each side. I'm usually a "safety 2nd/3rd" kind of guy, but I was careful with this one and all that stored energy.
All the shit that went wrong, always happens to me too🤣
happened to me as well, will be doing this for the damn third time lol.
Lol I thought it only happens too me
Aren't all the nuts metric?
19mm, 3/4 is there a difference? Use what you have.
Torque wrench to break bolt made me cringe 😫
None of the videos i have seen none of them show how the washers go.....
Don't worry about the dirty shop; worry about the weight bar against the wall with 5 pounds of weight.
:Maxin' that benchpress.
wd40 is penetrant but the oil you using doesnt penatrates properly and wd40 is not expensive
Your sway bar link bushings need replaced.🇵🇱🇺🇸
Ditched the sway bar and the links.
Never use a torque wrench to loosen bolts
Thanks for that No torque wrenches were harmed during the making of this video.
Wulululululu
Dude....that is a lot of rust
really couldve just loosen the spring tool to put tension on the top to crack it open lmfao
ya prolly
Buy! A impact way easier.
nah. This one's way better: czcams.com/video/7k3_5icAMtk/video.html
no bilstein gives you 2 rubber bushings ...you missing one my friend
Incorrect.
You should not compress the spring any more than absolutely necessary.
So I’m short, you drive a POS, with Moog shocks, that your mother bought you. Ford Escort?
What an absolute pig pen that shop is 😂
What a rust bucket you have there.
I’ll put this rust bucket up against anything your mommy bought you.
using a torque wrench to break a rusty bolt!!??? ouch!!!! then he tells me not to listen to the directions..... FAIL!!
Let me calm your emotions. The torque wrench was already broken. Trust me. Go by their directions and you will fail.
Your music” so sucks. Shouldn’t have to keep doing volume control.
LOL. I'll get you some Olivia Rodrigo next time.
Good old Toyota rusty frame..get a Nissan!
No you.
Might as well add another "don't use the torque wrench to loosen bolts" so no one thinks this is the right way to do things. I cringed.
I should just add this disclaimer: No torque wrenches were harmed during the making of this video.
🙃👎👎👎👎👎👎
😮😮😢 watching people use a torque wrench as if it was a standard ratchet makes one laugh at the lack of knowledge on proper tool use
No torque wrenches were harmed during the making of this video. Hope it didn't offend you or hurt your feelings.
@@1stgenoffroad didn’t offend me at all just knowing that by using in the way you did damages the torque wrench to the point that the settings will be off. Nice ride tho I’m about to start my project sequoia soon
Clean your freaking shop goshhh … and cut back on tour nonsense tools lecture. Nothing science rocket about replacing a shock on a rusty vehicle… lol
There's a lot of people out there. Some are not very smart. Sometimes stupid disclaimers are necessary.