2014 Ram 1500 ZF 8 Speed transmission fluid exchange
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Rest in peace Shawn. Thank you for all the hard work and time you put into making these videos to help others. 🙏🏽
What happened?
On the fluid debate, I have also used Valvoline Maxlife ATF in ZF transmissions ZF6 and ZF8 in BMW’s and after several years and thousands of miles have had good luck. I’d say the shifting feels smoother and quicker as well. I also prefer changing it around 40,000-50,000 miles for good measure. The BMW dealer was reluctant to change it at my request as it stated “lifetime” fill, however the service writer said that customers have brought in the Maxlife fluid to use and it has worked fine. Of course, they recommend OEM fluid while under factory warranty. But after that, he said the Maxlife hasn’t given any issues. Just sharing my experience.
Dustin Stevens
I heard about MaxLife working in ZF transmissions, I have a Bmw with a ZF 6HP19 and will try Valvoline MaxLife ATF on my next fluid and filter replacement.
I saw the dodge charger guys complained from maxlife in their 8hp trannys. I also would like to use on my BMW F10 but still hesitant. I used Motorcraft LV on Jaguar 6hp26 without any issue and super smooth shifts
I don’t think it’s really a debate. The manual says “use only Mopar zf fluid”… it’s pretty clear. Do you put random oil viscosities in your engine too? Mix HOAT and OAT? there is no debate - if something says “manufacturer recommends” that is much different than “use only”.
Transmission is an awfully expensive part to gamble with to save $100 on fluids
R.I.P. friend. Thank you for all the videos.
? What happened?
@@daddylee4216 Died.
@@ureasmith3049 😬 ok thx
Cool tech wants $40 for that thing, it’s an $9 sprayer from Home Depot!
bigdawgfan72 - exactly..wtf.
The diameter of the hose and pickup tube on this sprayer is much larger than what a regular sprayer which makes the job a whole lot faster, especially when needing to transfer several gallons at a time. The trick is to find a way to seal that larger hose to the threaded sprayer fitting without leaking under pressure. Obviously the guy that makes these figured it out.
They should be called "Fool Tech" fooling customers since 20xx....
My local dealer does the flush with the Valvoline long life max synthethic so apparently FCA does approve of it for use in the truck. They charge 275 for the service.
Yes it is on the approved list
Crazy I saw a dealer charge $900-$1000!!
I put Maxlife in all my cars include Lexus and Acura and never had any problem, also I don't change the filter.
Hey guess what guys !!! Since this video has first been done!!!! Zf has ok the use of valvaline in all the zf transmission 5/6/7/8/9.. and this is not a smart ass remark it's for real
On my jeep I just used a brake fluid hose and pump. I ran the line from above the engine almost straight down into the fill hole. I ran the clear hose into a water bottle that I cut the bottom off and poured the fluid into the bottle and raised the bottle up and the fluid flowed right down into the fill hole. That is a lot easier than pumping it through the wheel well or from underneath.
I'm working on my first ZF8 trans. I usually use oem everything. Went to the Dodge dealer yesterday. The Mopar 8&9 speed atf was $35 per qt. It cost me $76 for 2 qts after tax. All I was doing was making sure the trans was full of fluid since the rotary dial electronic shifter is stuck in park. I'm guessing the valvebody or something internal got damaged while flat towing it behind an rv. The owner states she pulled the park release cable on the left side, left the trans and transfer in neutral and pulled it over 1000 miles. When she got to her destination, she couldn't drive the truck because it was stuck in neutral. I replaced the rotary shifter control at a cost of $850, which the dealer diag suggested. Now at least it'll start, just stuck in park.
I'm able to fool the shifter as it's starts before it gets synced, and all that happens is it tried to move forward in reverse, neutral, and drive, but just for a moment before it's just starts making noise. Once you place it back in park, it's stuck again.
In my experience, using different fluid sometimes isn't a problem with the trans itself, but could lead to other issues like coolers or fittings leaking. Temp not being at optimal under loads could also be an issue. I have no clue on the ZF but if someone were to pull the max towing capacity on the truck/trans, and the wrong fluid is used, it may cause an issue that normal or light loads won't cause.
I do know many other videos I've watched in the last few days trying to figure out what's wrong with it stated not to use the red fluid. Oreillys told me none of their oil is capatable according to their computer, which includes the LV fluid. So it's conflicting info which I'm not the expert to say it's wrong.
I've decided to replace the trans with a salvage yard unit. The dealer wants $6k for a new trans and $5k for a reman. The valve body/trans module cost is $4k so no point in just replacing that when a whole new unit is 1k more. I found a salvage yard trans with 120k miles for $850. The truck has 260k on it. The owner says the ecodiesel is running fine and I've did most of the repairs on it for the last 100k miles.
According to my research and everyone I've talked to, the only other thing it could be is the trans itself because of improper towing. The manual states damage will occur is the trans isn't placed in park while recreational pulling. The transfer is placed in neutral. The owner states she put the trans in neutral because she thought transfer case meant trans.
There's limited info on the technical aspect of the ZF out there. I don't work on enough of them to be an expert on it so I'm not making a video covering what I'm currently doing.
The pressure can looks like a motive bleeder bottle that has been modified, which many brands use the same bottle. It cost about $48 on Amazon or you can buy kits with fittings for about $100 or so.
I normally use a pump oil filler with a curved nozzle. The same type all lube places use. They cost about $70 for a cheap one and about $200 for name brand. You can get by with a radiator filler nozzle/pump for $20.
I was under the impression the only approved fluid for the ZF 8speed trans is the ZF LIFEGUARD 8 or 9 fluid. It is a very thin viscosity and a dark green color. Fairly pricey too. Has something changed
Use Pentosin ATF8 fluid. $10+/qt cheaper than the ZF branded. Pentosin is also green and the specs seem very, very close. Pentosin probably makes it for ZF.
update from a complete flood truck restore, 3.6l 2014 ram tradesman edition: i restored or recovered the truck in 2018 and have been running this fluid since, no issues, im doing a fluid and filter change today or tomorrow
Appreciate the tip on the Fluid Tool, but I was hoping on some information on how to drain the other half of the fluid in your system. The torque converter and transmission cooler in the radiator holds the other half of the 9.5 quart total. I noticed you didn't change the filter, which is part of the pan, and your new gallon of fluid you just put in, is now going to mix with the other dirty gallon in the system. Maybe you could work on doing a complete fluid and filter change.
The zf fluid lights up that's the only difference, same fluid just doesn't glow in the dark for the dealer to show u used a different type, insurance reasons only
Do not get hung up on oil brands. There is only a few companies tha make oil. As long as it is compatible with ZF 8,9 Transmission. Save your money.
Very cool. I have been following you videos and love them please keep posting. I do security and we only use diesel vehicles as diesel is the fuel we have on hand for the heavy machinery and we have a 2014 ram ecodiesel. We have lower miles but they run nearly 24 hours a day and have 7100 hours. I watched your 2 hour video and agree we have lots of the same issues. Our steering wheel buttons are terrible and our radio started freezing up and we have to restart the truck to unfreeze the touch screen. We also had to replace the drivers seat as the padding wore out. We also have alternator issues but we have aftermarket emergency lights on the truck. Out transmission has gone out twice but we do lots more stopping and starting. We just got a Chevy Colorado diesel and also have a Kubota UTV diesel. I hope they hold up ok also.
that's a lot of hours for a pickup, let us know how the baby duramax holds up.
+Kyle L
I second that, let us know how the small duramax works out.
+Kyle L You guys should be draining and refilling your transmissions every 1000 hours reguardless of hours, the transmission is still moving inside even though your not moving. and i hope you have a guage so you can monitor your soot level so you can regen completely when you need to.
BEST ZF FLUID MONEY CAN BUY Schaeffer MAnufacturing www.schaefferoil.com/documents/267-205A-td.pdf
Is this the plastic trans pan? I though that drain plug was one-time and the pan had to be swapped.
The one in the BMW, which is exactly the same transmission is made of composite material similar to plastic, no metal. Yes the plug should be one time and replacing the pan is advisable.
I believe the filter is part of the pan and why disposed for new.
The plug can be reused, I have the bmw f10. I also have the metal pan with replaceable filter, but I haven't installed it yet.
any updates on this fluid? still no problems using this fluid for a zf 8 speed?
How is the 8speed doing today with this fluid?
He died
@@Dom-e92 LMFAO
@@xtremeboxers2851 He actually did die, not joking.
Question could some help me out I have a 2014 dodge ram 1500 v8 5.7l slt how do i know if i have the 6speed tranny or the 8speed zf tranny?
@@tattedone6753 Drive it and count the shifts
Hi im Rafael Alcala. Thank you. For the idea. It works!!! It was before a pain in the..... back..thank you again
Really have to trust your family in that position! lol.
My daughter has a 2015 dodge ram 8 speed can we use this oil on it? Any info mould really be appreciated.
Stick to what mopar recommends. ZF lifeguard 8. Very critical unless completely flushed including lines. I found the ZF 8 fluid under $28/ quart.
Can I use this on a 14 Jeep Grand Cherokee 8&9speed Tran
Yes it will work just fine, I use it in my 2014 Ram, zero issues.
These transmissions are also used in Mercedes vehicles, max life was a recommended fluid for the 5 speed transmission. The 6-7 speed vehicles should use ATF+4. Many companies make it and it's about $8 a quart. Mercedes and Mopar both charge crazy prices but there are reasonable cross referenced fluids from Febi and others. No reason to use the wrong fluid.
racekar80 I
I have the same trany and started leaking from gasket I heard if u dnt put the auth oil zf fluid voids warranty will it mess trany up if I use the oil u use
How does this ATF perform when compared to the Amsoil ATF in the 8 speed transmission?
I'm looking to get my ATF changed out and I was leaning towards the Amsoil stuff personally.
This stuff will outperform Amsoil and Maxlife
Schaeffer Manufacturing Americas oldest oil company www.schaefferoil.com/documents/267-205A-td.pdf
Here's a direct comparison for you with real world laboratory analysis and testing results for you czcams.com/video/3HLjkNu-Occ/video.html
I'd go with a ppe Trans pan but I use same oil about yo do mine now
I watch your videos all the time, and I've learned a lot about my 2014 Ram while doing it. I'm a little confused on what fluid to use, because in this video you say the Valvoline Max Life is all you use, but in another video you made you mentioned the Amsoil ATF is what you use. Now I was born and raised on Valvoline products, so would Valvoline be the better fluid to use? Also what happened to using the lucas ATF conditioner?
It needs to meet the manufacturer spec, it has nothing to do with brand names and has everything to do with specification formulation.
Check your owner/service manual and look for the specification, match the specification on the back of the bottle and go for it.
Generally speaking I go with AmSoil.
Amsoil ATF low viscosity
I have found the ZF lifeguard 8 fluid on amazon for $22.23 per quart, but they come in liter bottles. They have a oil change pack of 7 liters for $165. I believe the valvoline would work, but ZF has said that the only current oil they recommend is the lifeguard 8.
@@TR19 of course they do.. they make it
How do you know how much AT fluid you pumped in since the pump does not have any markings at all?
Am getting ready to change my trans fluid and like everyone else and am not sure about a few things. My old man is a diesel mechanic so its just the fluid selection that I am worried about. Awesome videos you do.
Question, the drain plug on the 8hp70, is it a one time use or does it go back in and reseal if wanting to reuse the same pan?
And you switched from Amsoil to Valvoline just because of price correct? And the Valvoline has been working just as good and no shifting problems yet? How is the wear metals in the pan, original to Amsoil to Valvoline? Is that Valvoline thicker similar to the Amsoil universal fluid or thinner like the fuel efficient Amsoil?
I run Amsoil in everything but you have me second guessing this ZF transmission oil selection now.
And Martins range rover problem, could that have been due to an over or under fill? Anyone know?
If we all posted videos of our research and results like Shawn we would all probably be farther along.
Appreciate it.
Cheers
Can you put a link to or what the name of the pinch clip for the tube?
Michael Bennett just reach over and depressurize tank.
The answer will cost you $40. ;-)
I know this is not the ZF's recommended fluid. However, I have seen lots of mechanics do what Shawn has done here in addition with the additive (not just Lucas there are others out there). I think before Shawn passed his truck had over 190k on it. I never saw any vid of his that he had to rebuild this ZF8. If this is correct then all I can say is "Wow, just amazing".
This oil is certified for use on ZF transmissions. content.valvoline.com/pdf/maxlife_atf.pdf
You can also use Redline if you want. The ZF fliud is just reaaaly thin
I really need to know is this ok to use in this tra.smission
So sad to learn about our loss, and his passing.
@@workingguy6666 what?
I used that Valvoline ATF fluid on my Acura and wow does that shit stink lol
It's my understanding the fluid for the ZF8 speed isn't ATF+4 but some green tinted HP Fluid Mopar sells.
How long have you been running ATF+4 in this trans and how does the fluid look when you change it?
Pretty sure that's not ATF + 4. And real sure ATF + 4 isn't good for a ZF trans.
You say that Valvoline states that their fluid is compatible. Where does not say this? I cannot find this. ZF & FCA states to not use anything other than the actual 8&9 fluid.
Jose Molina it’s on Valvoline’s website. You can call into their line and talk to a rep too.
Hi any update about the pan and oil??
This fluid is amazing on the 8hp70. Rip!
So, today i change the Oil of my 7/2015 th Challenger.
It has 22tmiles on it...the Oil looks pretty green.
Using a sprayer for 10€.....and original ZF 8 Oil.
5 Liters ( quarts ) come out an want to fill in again....with your device a peace of cake .
Thanks for your invention......
Can I used Valvoline on jeep transmision or only Mopar ??
Yes you can... there is a great (kinda long) video on this subject... it goes into detail about fluids/specs and alternatives for servicing worth checking out... saved me a bundle
czcams.com/video/F7MaXLwWQik/video.html
I have a zf 8 in a 2013 Ram, I pull with it sometimes. Can an add on cooler be added to it?
I also have a 2013 Ram 1500 with the 8-Speed tranny (8HP70)....90k miles. Manual calls for fluid replacement at 120k miles. Have you replaced the fluid in it? If so, which fluid did you use?
@@aggie7756 He is no longer with us but 3:30 he holds it up to the camera
How long have you ran the valvoline atf?
Service interval recommendations are too long (BMW Chrysler). On BMW, Chrysler vehicles equipped with this transmission, the factory rates the fluid to last a lifetime. The unfortunate fact is that this is simply not accurate. Tests have shown that the fluid starts breaking down at around 62,000 miles. It is therefore recommended that the fluid be changed every 50,000 miles. Doing so will assure you a long transmission life span.
Well, if the transmission self destructs, diddn't the fluid last for the lifetime?
Do you mean to just drop the pan and and fill it back up with whatever amount came out? or do you mean flush the entirety of the fluid within, and replace it. Cause that's definitely one expensive job lol.
I just replaced transmission fluid on my truck with 115000 I was so surprised to find the oil clean and red with no smells coming from it
There was no need to change it the filters do a great job
Any tips for us hemi guys we have the y pipe blocking the drain plug how can i get around this?
Pump out excess fluid via fill hole.
Get a big drain pan.
10mm hex allan key should get in there
How much do you fill in ?
Please explain your fluid choice. According to ZF, the only acceptable fluid is ZF Lifeguard8 or Mopar® ZF 8&9 Speed ATF™ (which is the same thing as the ZF fluid). Can you show/prove that any other fluid is acceptable by the manufacture of the transmission or the vehicle?
Transmission fluid is transmission fluid.
@@inspectorjavert5563 "Laughs in CVT"
Shell(M-L 12108)make those ATF oil for ZF Lifeguard8 or Mopar 8&9 Speeds. And it's semi-synthetics not 100% like Amsoil SS or Redline D6 ATF. Althought the ZF8HP70 is made for using semi-synthetics with additives(full-synthetics the same)like Valvoline Maxlife ATF and all others compatible semi(or full-synthetics).
Semi or full synthetics are group 3,
100% synthetics are group 4 or 5.
Valvoline Maxlife as Redline D6 or Amsoil series signature to names a few, approved and are in specs regarding the oil you need for the service.
Hey graig... there is a video you might find of interest... its long but if you go to the description and skip to section 2 fluids... you will see the specs for shell 12108 along with a number of competitors.
What is the recomended mileage for a trans and trasfer case fluid change. I have 80k . On my 2016 Ram 1500 8 speed
I don't think the manufacturer provides an interval, but I've gone with 60K, allowing some flexibility depending on usage.
(Sooner if you tow a heavy trailer.)
Very helpful thank you
I need to do on my ecodiesel. Do I need to change the oil pan???
If you want to replace the filter(built in to the pan) then yes. If your just doing fluid no. Unfortunately Shawn is no longer with us😢 he was a pioneer in the ecodiesel world
Hi Shawn. So I noticed in your first service of the ZF 8 speed you used AMSOIL fuel efficient trans fluid. Why have you switched to Valvoline now? Was there any issues with the AMSOIL?
I just purchased 8 litres of the AMSOIL product and heard in this video that if you were going to do it over you would have used the Valvoline on the first service and on. Making me think twice about using the AMSOIL.
I appreciate any of your help and your videos are great. Thanks a lot.
Josh
+Josh Waslen There wasn't anything "wrong" with the amsoil, the amsoil is far superior to the ZF fluid, as you can see in my transmission pan dissection at 100,000 miles. But I'm getting the same results with the valvoline fluid at 1/3 the cost. And the valvoline maxlife fluid is in no way any less quality of a product. Its just personal preference for me since i have to change all my fluids so often, every dollar counts for me. However i will not compromise quality over damage.
Amsoil lv fluid after warranty is up all the way for me
in the product datasheet it says that it is ZF8 lifeguard compatible, but why no filter change?
relaxat what fluid is compatible with zf8?
Darren max life
FCA lowered the powertrain warranty to match Ford, Toyota ,ect, to 5/60.
+Paul Wicklund UGH!
Paul Wicklund not for ram look again 5y/100k
During the oil discharge What is the temperature of the transmission?
Is there a certain temperature during the oil discharge?
Thank ...
Naden It should be around 110° F +/- 10°
All the ZF8 need the temp to be below 122 degrees F or else the fluid will expand too much and then it'll be too low when cold because it will spill out too much.
Well he did not replace the tranny filter. So you did half the job!
I did an amsoil drain and fill on my Range Rover with the ZF 5hp24, I did it 3 times so I could get out the most old fluid out, unfortunately 5k miles later it still behaves like it did when I first changed it, it kind of wonders from 3rd and forth, and going up in the mountains it got stuck in 3rd gear, with no codes or absolutely nothing, just turned the truck off and turned it back on about half an hour later and it worked fine, long story short I think I'm going to swap over to maxlife and take the exact same trip to see what happens. Ohh and it actually happened twice on the same road.
+Martin “MartinLoccz” Pulido JR From ZF - Once the transmission exhibits any mechanical or electrical problems, a complete rebuild or replacement is required. So This is the thing about ZF transmissions, they say never touch the fluid, its lifetime right? well some actual transmission repair shops have sent in ZF fluid on brand new BMW's and Mercedes and at 30,000 miles according to blackstone the fluid starts turning acidic. 70,000 miles seems like the magic number for and ZF transmission to start showing shifting problems and electrical problems if the original fluid has never been changed. The problem is once it shifts bad, your done, you need a new transmission, which is why i really stress changing this fluid at 30,000 miles no matter what kind of ZF transmission you have under a heavy duty cycle, or 40,000 miles on a heavy duty cycle,
191,000 and my ZF 8 speed shifts exactly the same way it did when i first bought my truck brand new.
If you question my methodology on this transmission, look up mercedes source here on youtube, call the owner, he will re affirm the fluid change intervals.
according to ZF and dodge zone, no recommended cycle for change. the fluid using is the wrong one, so maybe that is the issue
+Mike Gardner UPDATE, so I switched over to valvoline max life and the problem got worse, I bought a rebuilt valve body and just threw it on with fresh maxlife, transmission shifts like new with 126k miles on the clutches, I've driven it on 20 hour road trips and beat the hell out of it around town to see if it would act up, solid as new, I just hope it goes to 150k.
Martini time run seafoam though before a drain and fill. Cleans the valve body. Used Amsoil, so issues.
if you had a problem with transmission prior to the service, No oil will cure it.
Why change the fluid so often because it's diesel? I have an 8 speed but it's a Hemi
This guy is using hi truck very heavily. his loads are 1200 pounds in the bed and 7000 pounds towed. daily... pretty heavy stuff
Excellent I ll wait till you upload the video about it thanks a lot doing great job 👍👍👍👍
sean. is that the same trans that's in my 14 durango with the v6 or the zf that's in the hemi?
+Aaron Swaim not quite, the diesel has the 8hp70 the little gassers have the 8hp45
Aaron Swaim if you have the hemi it has a 8hp70 same trans v6 it will have the transmission Shawn mentioned
Has the Valvoline still been good to you?
He passed away
Have you never had problems with using this fluid as I'm being told use zf8 at 50 dollars Canadian a litre
A lot of people are using the MaxLife synthetic in ZF's transmissions with no problems even after several hundred thousands of miles. Nearly everyone that switches from the OEM ZF Fluid to the MaxLife full synthetic also note a clear improvement in shifting and less transmission "oddities". www.ramforum.com/threads/8hp70-trans-fluid-change.118005/page-2
Fluid works great buy it for cheap @ Walmart
I was told by several folks not to run any other fluid other than the ZF or Mopar Trans fluids. Why would they say that especially when they are about $30-40 PER QUART vs any other oils. Did you buy a filter/pan for that trans?
I'm passed my 100k on my truck & really want to change the oil just can't see myself doing the $600-$775 to do it. I tried looking for your video on where I can get a pan but couldn't find it.
You are going to get both unbiased and biased answers to that very same question. In Germany what matters is the certification of the oil. Not who makes it. I am sure it is the same in the US. content.valvoline.com/pdf/maxlife_atf.pdf
where are you getting pan/filter unit?
thank you,
Rock auto
This is the only video I've seen regarding your transmission since you used Amsoil fluid and Lucas. I guess that did not work out as satisfactory as you wanted?
+Powder River no. no benefit, no cost benefit, no need to spend 6x more money on amsoil with no benefit.
Thank you is nice to know
Other people who've done the Amsoil vs Valvoline test have found the same thing and n some cases with laboratory analysis that backs those findings such as the link l will post here, check t out - czcams.com/video/3HLjkNu-Occ/video.html
Would you recommend it for Jaguar XF 3.0td zf8hp gearbox or which one instead of zf lifeguard thanks
I'll be pulling my pan in 5000 miles, I've had this pan in for the past 100,000 miles using this fluid, I'll see how good it is at that point.
this will be fine for any ZF 8HP 45, 60, 70, 90 transmission.
@@JSarmiento. what about zf8hp55?
@@chriskim7642 if your transmission calls for lifeguard 8 then you should be ok with this fluid...
How it been after 5 years with that fluid?
He passed away
@@Dom-e92 really? Sorry to hear that
Do you reset the adaptions after preforming this type of fluid change?
It will learn on the fly you just have to be easy on it for a couple hundred miles 👍
damn. it's sad he took his life on may 14 2016.
Five times already? Why. How many miles is on that truck? That only makes sense if you have more than a half a million miles and even that is a stretch. And you paid some company on the Internet for a 2.5 gallon chemical sprayer and some clear tubing you could have bought at Home Depot for $10.
It's understandable since he had over 200K miles on the truck at the time of his passing.
use a gravity feed from the orig bottle lol simple to make
this is not the correct fluid for a ram 8 speed trans ...its zf 8 and its green...wondering why this guy has changed his trans fluid 5 or 6 times????? probably because its the wrong fluid...
When did you switch from AMSOIL?
At 100k when I saw it wasn't really better than zf fluid. And the cost was still high. I'm not paying just for the name. I want results. And Valvoline is giving it to me.
+mopar ecodiesel (dotcom) so when do you change the trans fluid ? I have a 5.7 with the 8hp70 i couldn't find when to change it
+SaTrickster HD service 30,000 miles. LD service 40,000 miles.
+mopar ecodiesel (dotcom) I have the v6. I phoned valvoline, they said it works in my truck. and currently have 76,000kms I'm in Canada. I look forward to keeping my truck running in great shape. Thanks for your videos.
we talking use right fluids only
Because life guard 8 fluids color like normal brown as oil look and some time another manufacture same ford Chrysler possible using difference dye color not same as ZF but make sure have to be oem fluids or u ruined that trans internal worn bussing and clutch for sure
All the ZF8 are the same except for the different models handling different torque. It all comes down to the data sheet for the oil and what the oil requirements are. OEM does not mean better, since they are about saving money more than performance.
2010 ram 160 k miles
Same oil from the factory still ok
Arman Shaaban
Way to take care of your car.
Arman Shaaban you don’t even have this transmission
Diff trans dude.....and it isnt "ok" its wearing faster these days from lack of maint
Not to smart laying between the wheels and have someone switching the transmission gears
He's dead now anyway so... thanks I guess. I'm sure he would have appreciated your comment.
How many miles do you have on your ecodiesel?
damn. rip. how did it happen? . I hope it wasnt the ZF fluid people for making them lose money.
Just so you now Shawn passed away a year ago on May 14, 2016
Oh no! Thats horrible. I been coming back to this video for a while to work up the confidence to do this. Never knew. So sad
Did his wife run him over while changing his transmission fluid?
Rams&Rotties what a shit thing to say, your stepdad raised you badly
i hope u using right stuff because 8HP ZF this fluids is NOT meet for it........... u need real 8HP fluid to meet or better using ZF OEM lifeguard 8 is best way protection for u.hope u not ruined your transmission
Thanh Nguyen I was thinking the same thing I worked for dodge a long time and I don’t remember any of the 8 speed fluid being red
@@TXOutdoors He's dead so... good for you I guess.
There are literally many thousands of people who have switched from the ZF OEM Fluid to MaxLife full synthetic and have put hundreds of thousands of miles on their ZF transmission with the MaxLife with only good results including smoother shifting than when the car had the stock OEM ZF fluid. One person now has over 400,000 miles running the MaxLife in his ZF trans (8HP70) and it still shifts like new. You just need to do a little more research. Valvoline Maxlife is specifically listed as ZF Lifeguard 8 compliant. The Lifeguard 8 fluid is a Dexron clone. sharena21.springcm.com/Public/Document/18452/9e447451-fe75-e711-9c10-ac162d889bd3/3fa3136a-09bd-e711-9c12-ac162d889bd1
@@JA-rn5qv I agree... there is a well done youtube video which goes into great detail specifically about this... it saved me alot of money, you may find it interesting czcams.com/video/F7MaXLwWQik/video.html
Wrong transmission fluid and it doesn’t look very safe put it in drive now put it in reverse well you’re under the truck really
Yeah screw that!
Yup, this guys a real brain surgeon
Read and research. There are very few ATF's which are not DEXRON clones. ZF is a DEXRON clone.
@@tintdr you are not very bright. Don't comment nor breed you are a disservice to humanity
@@theamericandreamdave that's interesting! I may have to use the same in my ZF8. Gotta check those data sheets lol I won't lie I too was a you gotta use what it came with person.
600? that's cheap hahaha i have a bmw and dealership wants almost 1000 to do the job. Better order the pan with the filter (OEM) and 6-7 quarts of fluid (ZF OE) and do it my self for around 200 hahaha bunch of greedy people. In the dealership they can do it in like what 1h max? how can they justify 1000????
Next time please engage the parking brake as far as possible please....saw the truck move .....if her foot slip off the brake pedal....youll be in trouble....just for safety reasons ...maybe block all wheels too in both directions . Nice job for doing a clean flush/fill 👍
He has passed away. I hadn't seen his videos for a while because nothing new was coming up.
where do you purchase the trans filter and pan?
This is a lot better pan, does not need to be changed and the filter re-usable.
www.dieselpowerproducts.com/p-14291-ppe-heavy-duty-aluminum-transmission-pan-14-18-ram-1500-ecodiesel.aspx?gclid=Cj0KCQiA2o_fBRC8ARIsAIOyQ-nbNsBsgiyBlHBQlpVFMKR_3fCeDpfq6ucZO4lmeqTRHx3m0dFIyOMaAkhNEALw_wcB#variantList
David Mosby: like the idea of an aluminum pan with replaceable filter - but the design (of the one you posted) only has one magnet in the drain plug, not multiples like the factory. - just a concern
Dextrose that's not the correct fluid for the 8 speed
Legend has it this guys wife ran him over doing a transmission fluid change, he had 190k miles on his truck when he passed away, RIP pal. Thanks for the great info
Did you ever find out if that was just a rumor or do you know how he died?
No, you used the wrong transmission fluid, ZF transmissions 6 speed 8 speed 9 speed etc use a Special transmission fluid. you should not use the cheap fluid AutoZone or walmart has for sale on a auto transmission that has 6 or more
speeds period. they need a SPecial atf!
No it does not. The Shell spec is not stringent at all.
Compare every spec with the zf fluid and this. Its 100% compatible.. read all the spec sheets, i have and its the same.
BEST ZF FLUID MONEY CAN BUY Schaeffer MAnufacturing www.schaefferoil.com/documents/267-205A-td.pdf
"According to Valvoline the fluid is compatible". What about Dodge or the manufacturer of the transmission? No, it's not compatible. In fact, what Dodge and the manufacturer use is a completely different fluid altogether.
Rubbish...
That fluid is junk
LOL! wrong oil...good luck!
You do realize he has done this for 190k on this transmission? And he hauls 1000 lbs in the truck bed, in the mountains.
and 7000lbs trailer. this fluid seems to be working just fine ;)
He is clearly stating that this oil is compatible with ZF 8 and 9 Speed. content.valvoline.com/pdf/maxlife_atf.pdf
The oil does meet the specs, and is better then the ZF8 fluid, which is mineral based-oil, so long as it meets, Shell ATF L12108 ( ZF Life Guard Fluid 8 ) .
BEST ZF FLUID MONEY CAN BUY Schaeffer MAnufacturing www.schaefferoil.com/documents/267-205A-td.pdf
For the life of me I can't understand why Chrysler continues to use junky German automatic transmissions.
I understand they had no choice when Daimler bought them but their no longer owned by them.
These transmissions have been unreliable and expensive to repair and difficult to service with their so called " sealed for life " system.
Unreliable?The 8 spd in my truck and everyone else I know who and even those on the forums have had zero issues.
My 2014 Ram V6 has 266K miles on the original 845RE transmission. It has always seen OEM fluid, though. I'll do a fluid change next month
Not sure what your basing your statement on, but firstly German auto parts are widely known as some of the best... especially when it comes to reliability. Second there are several articles out there talking about how good and reliable these transmissions are... their used in literally dozens of models of cars across a multitude of manufacturers. If anything there reputation for reliability went down once chrysler built a plant in the US and started producing there own version..lol
@@jdouglas7516 Yes at one time German engineered and built cars were reliable, cheap and easy to maintain, no more.
The latest example of failed German engineering and reliability, the ZF transmission used by many automakers including Honda who's sterling reputation has been tarnished and why they stopped using the ZF transmission.
Or how about VW's dual clutch automatic that has been an unreliable and expensive disaster.
And let's not forget the GDI technology developed by VW then used by other German then American and Japanese automakers that have also been a disaster due to carbon buildup on the intake system.
This is why Toyota came out with GDI and port injection technology to fight the huge amounts of carbon buildup common to GDI engines.
@@desiderious1 well I cant speak for every ZF product made... but the ZF 8 speed transmissions have a stellar reputation as I stated before. Honda never had a good reputation for automatic transmissiions had a good one for standards. All I know is you call an auto parts store (or even look online) more often than not the German based parts such as MOOG, MEVOTECH, BOSCH, BILSTEIN, and countless others have the best warranty, best reputation and are the most recommended. Here is one example of several articles speaking on the reputation of the zf 8 speed transmissions
www.caranddriver.com/features/a23367341/automatic-transmission-best-zf-eight-speed/