Lets learn DBFZ! - All about blockstrings
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2018
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Blockstrings are very important facet of all of fighting games. This video is made upon heavy request so hopefully this will help you out! For you more established FGC people this video probably won't teach you much you don't already know just as a heads up but this is to help the people who struggle with this concept.
1:19 - resetting your position to neutral after a blockstring
4:24 - Keeping your pressure/your turn after a blockstring
9:18 - Baiting out aggressiveness
11:45 - in closing
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Made upon request! For those of you more experienced FGC vets this video probably isn't gonna teach you much you already know just as an FYI. That said for those of you struggling with the concept of blockstrings then this video is for you!
Months in and I still don’t have the opportunity to get the game but I haven’t been great at creating blockstrings whenever I do get to play it. I get the concepts (safe on block and what’s not etc.) I just haven’t gotten it completely down yet. This video should help as always Rooflemonger-sama
rooflemonger been expecting this! Thank you :D
Whenever I'm looking something up for this game I usually just put your name after to see if you've made a video about it yet. Quality stuff as always
Hey I made this request as well, what a guy
Yay u finally made it! I've always wanted to learn this stuff and I hoped you saw my tip, I know im not the only one but i hope i helped to get u motivated to make it ;)
rooflemonger. Do you think you could do a tutorial on staggering?
Earlier at work I was like man I really need a video about how block strings work. Then I see this before I sleep. Thank you so much
hahahaha same for me today. but im still at work hahaha
I buy fighting games all the time because I love them but I'm not very good because I just button mash or use specials because I love the animations, but when I played online I got frustrated so I decided to watch your videos and man have they helped, I mean I'm not amazing at it but just knowing the basics of how to play is really helping out and when I lose I don't feel bad because I know it's a learning experience.
Fighting games are the most rewarding kind of game because you can always truly track your growth! There is no crutch like blaming your teammate its all on you for better or worse. The low points kinda can be frustrating sometimes but when you see yourself grow nothing is better!
I am the exact same. I suck but the game looks too awesome for me not to play it and Rooflemonger is my fuckin savior
You're definitely not the only one loving the animations in this. I don't even have DBFZ (yet)!
ArcSys is really moving 3D into the future with games like this
I rarely subscribe to anyone. I simply look up what I want to see but you sir deserve viewership.
I'm not a big fighting game player, not played much since against ai in Tekken 2 or MK on genesis and you have helped make playing this game so much more bearable online from being autocombo spammed by players with literally zero defence skill thank you so much for your tutorials on this game.
Hey somehow missed this one all the way back, but thanks for the kind words friend :)
No problem its something I'm happy to do. I don't play the game too much (I'm a huge noob so its not too much fun being juggled to death >
@@JoNNyCLOUD171 I’m curious how’s your progress?
@@salmo436 TLDR This is a long post with a bit of ranting and my thoughts on the game.
Progress went very well Thank you. I smashed the game for months learning about the way the game works and certain mechanics and terminology across many fighting games even if I only play this one.
I have had a slew of fact based debates with folks about how some nerfs that are overwhlemingly looked down upon which were in fact a good nerf for that point in time. SSJ Goku's 2M was one such point. This was also vice versa on nerfs that came far too late (UI Goku) and nerfs or buffs that were bad objectively.
However I wasn't overly impressed with Roflmongers reply to one of my posts. It was indeed quite rude. I also feel it came after a pretty arrogant point in his "career" where the fame over took the quality. This is ofc specualtion. But the post was regarding adding multiple assists to characters. The thing was I felt it wouldn't change the core issues of the game or the individual characters.
I was ofc correct. (For the most part) The best on screen characters had very VERY unfair stuff. The game overall was quite balanced but the top tiers had unfair stuff and the best characters stayed the best and unless the lower tiers got much better assists nothing would change that.
To which Roflemonger replied "wrong", nothing else, which tbh annoyed me because I used facts and he flat ignored that. That's not how you should treat fans but we also know that many "content creators" get arrogant as their fame increases as well. As they say money talks and BS walks. Again this is speculation but it would make sense.
Z Broly - Neutral / Block String Pressure
Kid Buu - Block String Pressure / A Assist
Bardock - Damage From Any Hit / Lariat Speed And Distance
Cell - Damage From A Perfect Attack / Block String Pressure
etc etc.
Now obviously Cell isn't as good as Z Broly but they encompass the same problems that are "unfair". I also thought Goku Blue would be more prevelent and probably would be if UI and "easier" characters that did the same thing didn't exist.
The assists changed basically nothing at the top end of the game or the bottom end. Beams are still the best or equally the best in every situation and Kid Buu A and Bardock B were free 50 / 50s on every character. So giving Krillin a "beam" changed nothing becasue other beam characters had better on screen power.
So to be hit with a simple "wrong" shows a lack of etiquette towards the fans and community but also a lack of appreciation to the growth and income literally from viewers.
I have streamed on some occasions testing moves out and the facts of everything but I have a lot on atm with decorating and prepping for a baby but I would like to go full time as a stay at home dad to show people what they might be missing becasue I love this game.
With regards to the new patch well I am enjoying it however ......some characters that were already very good but kept down by some overpowered stuff are now tearing up the game but at least there is variety now.
Anyway let me know your thoughts, I love debates and learning new things and if you have a sleeper OP character that migth be worth using.
@@JoNNyCLOUD171 oh shit I missed your comment! It seems like you have really learned the game lol. I’m p much just starting out on my fighting game journey (if you call Smash a fg I have around 1900 hours so I’m used to grinding specific situations out and whatnot altho obvs traditional fgs are different). I just wanna know how did you go about getting better at the game? I’ve been experimenting with this game for around a month now and neutral in the game feels either way too loose to me or just something I can’t wrap my head around. Also blockstrings lmao.
"Respect the rock" Love it lol. awesome video as always. love how in depth you get with your explanations. Keep up the good work! 👍🏻
Man I have watched so many videos from so many content creators and compared to your videos they just don't explain it in a way that newbie players can understand. You deserve so many more subs brother.
What a video dude. The detail in this is just amazing! Helped a lot!
As someone who is getting into fighting games, these are the videos that I need. My friend recommended your videos and I now see why. Thank you so much for putting these out there!
You deserve more followers, your content is great! High production quality and very helpful :)
just started playing DBF and all these vids are super rehearsed and informative, easily the best for learning this game available on youtube rn
YOU ALWAYS FILL MY LAB NEEDS, BLESS THE ROOFLEMONGER!!
First vid I've seen attempting to cover blockstrings, and it's something I've struggled with forever. You're godlike, dude. Still watching the video, but you're real good at explaining so far :)
Another awesome tutorial! I’ve always had problems understanding blockstrings and wake up pressure but these videos have helped me learn a lot about what to do in these situations. Hope you carry these tutorials over to cross tag battle when that releases.
I will be covering BBtag as well!
This was fairly informative, but I was looking to understand more of the basic mechanics and details. My main question concerning block strings is how normals work in sequence with each other. I already know that lights generally string into mediums, and mediums into heavies. I also know that I can go for standing normals into lows, or vise versa. Is there anything I'm missing here at all? One thing I would like to know specifically (though it may be too generalized a question to ask) is: what is usually the consensus on how many normals of one particular type I can use before I lose my chance to string in different normals? For example, if I start with standing lights then how many of those can I string together before I should move on to lows or mediums? Then, by extension, how many mediums/lows/heavies can I string together before moving on once more, and in what sequences do they work? This is of course assuming that I just want to apply the max amount of pressure on block. This might not be the most practical inquiry, I'm only asking to sooth my curiosity.
love your vids, especially this one, keep it up!
This video really helped me out since the only thing I needed to improve were my blockstrings so I thank you greatly
Ohhhh yesssss; been searching for this oneeee
Love how he says “permutations” lmao
Our prayers have been answered. God bless you, rooflemonger.
Keep it coming! You're a genius
Had no idea there was even such a thing! Thanks for this!
Thanks for the tips! Keep up the good work! ^_^
A character that helped me with general block strings in fighting games is Robo-Fortune in Skullgirls.
Her lights and mediums are are mostly even or slightly positive on block(0 to +2), her heavies are monstrously unsafe, although one is an overhead, and she has a slide kick whose frame advantage varies with spacing(-12 to +9). Jump cancelable air move are also important in that.
An excellent character to learn about block strings and frame traps with.
Skullgirls is such a hard game for me to improve. I wish I was better learning from playing online. I feel as though I'm one of those people that needs a person at my level to improve alongside with.
Thanks to rooflemoger i cant take lightly even light green colors 😤😤😤
I needed this video thank u
Well spoken and clear.thanks dad
I am new to FG and playing DBFZ this video is helping me so much. I have to work on that and hit confirms a lot (and what to do after vanish, oh when i tag a character in and its SD hits etc). Thanks!! Just discovered your channel!
Happy to help friend! Fighting games are about the most difficult game you can possibly get into, much more so than any Shooter or Moba. The roads a long one to get decent, but its the most rewarding. There's a reason why you see 20+ year vets (myself included) in Fighting games, because no other genre can keep people interested as long. More lifers here than anywhere else.
Thanks. This game is pretty fast paced too. I went to a local event and people told me SV5 is slower. I feel I am learning piano partitions with dbfz combos!
As far as fighting games go yes this is a much faster paced one. There is a lot of different speeds of fighters, street fighter being a bit slower but more scientific, where a lot of playing this game is with your heart. The one ting though even though many games are different, skillsets and finger speed you build do travel over from one game to the next.
FINALLY this fucking video!! I’ve been waiting for “how to blockstring”
thanks, I'm really weak in this department. This is going to help. It's a wicked habit(by not doing it) to break
THANK YOU FOR THIS
With blockstrings I suggest setting the dummy to block first only. That way, you'll know what blockstrings are actually blockstrings.
Good video , thanks
Great video
I needed this so much. I just got the game yesterday and Idk what to do if they just block my attacks. Thanks.
Respect the rock
Hopefully I can finally get better with this. Just got to supreme kai rank and still getting rekt for this. And hopefully now I can actually play the game when against a vegeto and bardock when the stop their auto combo. Thanks roofle.
I think on the weekend gonna have some early/provisional bbtag combo videos, although I still wanna wait for the proper release (and real training mode) before I go to the more usual treatment. Thinking the RWBY characters and Tager maybe? As for dbfz got a few more Lets learn DBFZ on the docket to go over hopefully over next few days.
Yo Roof, I've been wondering: Im from Europe, and if I get an American copy of the game (since theres STILL no eu release date wtf), will I need to make an American PSN account to play online?
ooo I don't know. I think you might have to? But I can't guarantee it. At least PSN accounts are free.
rooflemonger but ps plus isn’t XD
Thank you lord rooflemonger
Happy to be of help friend!
I'm such a nub, so I appreciated this a lot
After yall watch this now go and watch go1. That monsters defense lol. Have yo really give him credit for being so hard to open up someone that blocks everything and techs grabs.
Thank you
Great video as usual, I really hope they add in assist options. Like you can use Gohans dragon punch for assist or you can choose to use his masenko assist, across all characters this would make the game sooooo much better
I wish, more assists = more better.
And now we have it
Have you considered looking into/giving your thoughts on the metagames of other regions and giving your thoughts on why they may have differences in playstyle or character choices (i.e. SSJ Goku being more prominent in Europe and Japan compared to North America's frequent use of Black)?
Unfortunately I don't know much about other regions playstyles :( But the easy answer at least for that is North america loves the evil guy/anti-hero. Anyone who wears a lot of black and is all evil will always be more popular in NA.
Hey man i love your content your the best dbfz youtuber. I wanted to quickly ask Whats the best option to recover from a soft knockdown. Im not sure if its a soft knock down but i referring to momements like when you recover from a light god slicer or light specials in general in the air and start back on the ground or even after the light auto combo. I try to up tech but i gusse because im not completely knocked down i get hit in the jump animation. If i block on the ground i get grabed and if i push a button i lose nearly all the time. When i get hard knocked down im good since i know my options but this is honestly how i lose most of my games. Thanks to any future replys
Down tech is generally the safest option of all the tech options in the air. Also for the most part a lot of the time if their stuff isn't tight it will let you recover and act before them.
I'm gonna say this is the first game (I know of) where blockstrings are even more crucial than combos.
could you do another video about intentional gaps in blockstrings?
If only there was a video on how to beat a. Gohan's ridiculous minute late ng blockstring
Any tips for this with Piccolo? I'm newer to this game and blockstrings don't even seem possible with Piccolo, I always end with at least -3 frame advantage, specials included.
If i could make a request/suggestion for another video it would be what to do after a forced tag on both sides cause i always seem to get pressured after i get force tagged but idk what to do when i do it
Not a bad idea I will consider it. That said generally speaking jumping up back is your safest defensive option. Or vanishing right away.
can you do a video about jump cancelling? I blow at it. I know its literally "just press UP after an attack," but when I do manage it they always dart away before my next attack after the jump cancel can connect :-(
I swear to god, I block videls full blockstring, and when she ends it with that one where she elbows overhead then punches like 4 times at your chest, and I am blocking every other over head right before it, and then sometimes when she does the overhead elbow, it doesn’t say I blocked, and sometimes i block that but then I still hold back and block with out pressing any buttons, and she hits me with those punches that follow afterwards it hits me everytime, is it an invincible move?
Thanks for the video! Can you make a video for Hit? He's a really interesting character but seems to be a bit more difficult to utilize properly.
Nivkh watch the jtails video on him
I will get around to as many characters as I can in time! It takes some time for me to feel comfortable enough with a character before I can make a video for them.
Fear the rock
I mainly stuggle on getting out of blockstrings :'c but loved the video nonetheless
Well a lot of that boils down to knowing when its your turn and when you can do stuff :-0 I do have videos for that though!
I'm kind of new to fighting games, I've always struggled and only recently got into FighterZ because Dragonball Z. What does "Advantage", "Neutral", and "Negative" on block mean? Or maybe it hasn't been explained yet? I haven't finished the video
Oh, does it refer to after they use the move? Advantage means they can keep attacking, negative means there is a point where there's nothing they can do other than assist, and neutral means... you get distance?
Advantage means you can continue applying pressure after the hit
Neutral means that nobody has the advantage
Negative means your opponent can hit afterwards
Out of curiousity, what are some good options for when I see yamcha do a standing medium?
Yamcha always wants to start with a crouching medium, its faster than his stand medium to boot.
Weird question but what's the typical block string starters. As in do I just do LLH 2M M or like 2L 2M M right into a special move or qcb/qcf move or does it vary between characters. This is the best way I can think of for wording my question lol sorry
Well 8/10 times the jumpstring "starter" is whatever attack you did that got blocked. As you would transition into your combo, then you notice you got blocked and then you made due from there.
Holy crap i really really need you outro music
Strider It's from SNK vs Capcom 2. Called "This is true love makin' "
I have a problem.i can't like do an overhead in my jump cancel
nice video can you do a combo guide of goku Blue?
I will get around to as many characters as I can in time! It takes some time for me to feel comfortable enough with a character before I can make a video for them.
So I fight people all the time who vanish right after their last combo move to reset, even if I know its going to gotten, I haven't figured out a way to catch them since I'm still in block stun, should I just wait until they are done vanishing? Because it seems risky to do with all the options they have.
Vanishing is another way to keep/steal another turn. Most of the time you just have to groove on it. However watch the video on "after you blocked a vanish" to deal with that.
So a blockstring is usually 4-6 attacks( 5L - 5L - 2M - 5M - 5H or qcf/qcb L/M/H/S) with a gap in between that can only be either deflected/lvl 3/invincible special moved right? But some characters are able to extend it because they have minimal gaps making it tricky to counter it? Whats the best way to practice block strings?!
Just set the dummy to guard all and practise string at first, then set guard random and practise confirming combos from your block string.
Also cover your gaps with assists
Well a blockstring can be many things, I use the longer ones there as a good baseline. The base of the blockstring is built from the hitconfirm, although hitconfirms in dbfz are a lot longer than they are in say a street fighter game. Not all blockstrings have gaps, some do some don't. If you perfectly time your assists some characters have no gaps through like, 15+ hits on block. As for practicing it just set your dummy to block all and go to down.
Oh wow thanks you guys! Just learned alottt from these comments. I really appreciate the feedback thanks again everyone
Yo roof, what if I vanish while getting hit with bar docks assist that keeps me in block stun?... will it be my turn? Or does vanish keep me in negative
@rooflemonger
you are always plus on block (plus 2 specifically) if you vanish on an enemy that is grounded. So in that, yes it is your turn.
rooflemonger thank you 🙏🏽, love the channel
Personally my best friend always uses yamcha's heavy & I don't know how to punish against it. Any tips?
Reflect
@@Yusei797 but doesn't yamcha's heavy do a backflip so u actually have to pause until he does the forward lunge....& then reflect it?
@@krenarspahiu4261 reflect back back otherwise reflect ki blast
Goooootcha. Thx
10:47 red video glitch?
Bad and good blockstring?
Has anyone ever thought about how blockstrings in this game are unfair? Been playing fighting games for years and this punishing more complicated than it needs to be.
Come to think of it, you dont punish in this game. You counter. Games like KOF,SF, MVC, Tekken teaches you to be cautious with what button you press so you dont get punished. This game has punishing in it but you are rewarded for pressing more buttons rather than pressing less. It throws me off.
I don't think its unfair. Its easier to block in this game than the more savage stuff in MKX. No game with assists has punishes until the assists run out, that's how all tag games work.
rooflemonger Ok your right about that. But what annoys me, is punishing in this game. The options are limited. And i know i sound backwards but i got so used to having dragonpunch motions to do an anti-air. You feel me? There are too many fighting games to learn!!!
I have a question, when I play my friends they are usually never on the ground. They're ususally superdashing in an in the air always. I know they are going to do it but I have terrible reaction times. What can I do?.
option the third
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The best assists shouldn't be attached to the best characters, it should be balanced. Goku Black shouldn't have the second best assist and be a top tier character to fight with. For ex. Ginyu should have a better assist because he isn't top tier. We really need/want a real balance patch that shakes up things and gives characters the tools that allow everyone to be a potential pick instead of why would I want Ginyu when I can have goku black is better in every way
In a perfect world, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Cole Bodine Every character is viable in casual but not in tournament. This game is not balanced in that way. For the top tier characters 2 solo combos and you're dead, for the rest it takes 3 combos with assist extensions to get a kill. Plus the top tier characters have more tools in their arsenal. I'm not saying you can't win with a low tier character what I'm saying is that if you take out each characters assist and just look at them that the top tier is the same. Likewise if you look just at the assists the top tier is the same. That shouldn't be, some characters shouldn't get the world while others struggle for peanuts. You have a beam assist one of the best in the game, well maybe you shouldn't have the best 2 h in the game.
Additionally, they could allow us to choose the assist for each character like Skullgirls.