Console Wars - The Lion King - Super Nintendo vs Sega Genesis
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Our heroes determine which console had the better version of The Lion King. Super Nintendo or Sega Genesis? Find out in Console Wars!
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Thank you for mentioning the Genesis 6 button controller! I am so sick of reviewers ignoring it's existance and criticizing the genesis for its lack of needed buttons
True but some kids could not affort more controllers so back than even in 94 many were stuck with the original 3 button controller.
Me and one guy I know in my place both had a SNES with one controller if I wanted to play multiplayer with him I would need to bring my controller at his house.
@@paradoxzee6834 I was stuck with the 3-Button controller back in the 90s, in fact we had TWO 3-button controllers for Genesis. Not only were they rare to find in stores, they cost way too much or were sold out.
@@paradoxzee6834 Nah, if you could afford games, you could afford a 6-button controller. It was essential for some of the later ones. I was a Sega kid and I made sure I got one and can't really understand why anyone wouldn't have wanted to do the same at the time.
The Genesis version actually has much more precise controls than the SNES version. The SNES version feels slippery but in the Sega version, Simba stops on a dime. It feels much better.
Especially on the hippo tail level (Just Can't Wait To Be King) - the SNES version seems to need much more precise timing than the Genesis version when hopping from tail to tail.
'Tight' vs slippery controls are really hard to describe but you KNOW the difference by feel. I thought almost every 'genesis vs snes' port had way better control on genesis
Fun fact : the lava level was supposed to be in the film during simbas return but ended up being pulled from the movie but left in the game
99/100 times you are correct guys, but this time you weren’t. As some other people saying in other comments, you didn compare Simba’s roar in sound effects which are better on Genesis and gameplay on Genesis is truly better in many ways. As you said in lot of your videos, gameplay matters the most and Genesis have the better gameplay. So I think this time you were wrong.
Keep up the good job you are doing. ✌️
6:25 Without "The End" you're not getting any of that sweet, sweet closure.
Haha love it... without a the end sequence how am I supposed to know I beat it.
Was watching some of your older episodes again, and this one has always been a favourite.
The sheer look of shock and disgust on Wendy's face when Greg executed his admirable yawn-belch combo had me howling!
Add in a classic Kirk Vanhouten line, and a crap-throwing ape, and you have comedy gold 😂
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm the only one that thinks the SNES version has better colors?
not only
+Nintendofan012 Personally i think that's the only part where the SNES version is better.
as a sega fanboy, i have to admit thats true.
I honestly thought Nintendo was going to win graphics.
Yeah
This is probably the funniest episode yet.
+SteveDoidoUltimate Thanks!
+SteveDoidoUltimate This is probably the best comment yet! :)
Lol it truly is. It still remains the funniest episode they have done.
The SNES version’s samples sound really terrible! I’d rather have the Mega Drive’s FM Synthesis and limited sampling than the SNES’s awfully compressed and rough sound.
The SNES version has some of the worst collision detection I've ever seen in a video game. The "I Just Can't Wait To Be King Level" is a prime example.
lol
The classic yawn arm around the chick move infused with a burp had me rolling.
One of the best episodes yet! I always thought the Sega version had better music and of course, better resolution, but whatever. It's a great game, no matter the platform.
I went back to that scene so many times lol
Going back and watching some of these old videos, I can't believe you guys still only have 60k subs. I look forward to every one of your videos, even now, absolutely crazy.
I'm surprised you guys didn't even mention cub Simba's roar on both games. The roar on Sega sounds like the roar in the movie while the SNES just sounds like a kitten. Small detail I know, but you guys still mentioned small details like that in your previous episodes so I wonder why you didn't do the same here. I R DISAPPOINT Now that I've gotten that small detail out of the way that won't be mentioned ever again, great work as usual. And for the first time (not counting the times when your Next Video Hint would just be "Movies" or "Cartoon" or something that could mean hundreds of things), I'm stumped on what the next video could be
The roar was immediately annoying along with everything being 'cool' having played SEGA first. You're not alone, it was wicked distracting and immediately second level on the ostrich killed the SNES version for me. This is one of the times I think they were wrong in their decision.
Honestly, it really is impressive just how close they really got the two versions.
Also, I never knew this game was six-button control compatible! That's rad
The 6 makes everything better
I felt like the SNES music and sound feels hollow. The Genesis definitely felt more rich. I definitely preferred some of the songs on Sega too. The vocals push the SNES ahead though when they’re present. That’s something you didn’t get often at the time these games were released. I guess it’s six if one half a dozen of another.
Especially when they played Can’t Wait to Be King(Genesis version actually played the whole song). I grew up with the SNES, but I found the Genesis’ soundtrack of this game to be more lively and upbeat.
I agree totaly with your opinion
I'm kinda surprised the SNES version won. To me, the music in both games is near identical with only a few minor differences, and the sega version has better graphics, and I think a game having good graphics is more important than it having good music. So if it were me, best game would've gone to sega.
I'm actually blown away by that sound on the SNES. It's a bit crackly, but man do they utilize that console's sound chip. I grew up with the Genesis version, so that's all I know.
I'm gonna be honest, I thought that the SEGA version had better music. While the SNES version may sound closer to the movie, it just sounds boring while on SEGA, the music sounds more upbeat, epic and catchy. There's something about the sound on SEGA which just makes me like it more even if it's lower quality. But great episode guys.
+bigbangbot Agreed.
+bigbangbot yep segas music was more dynamic with better instruments and far better produced
+bigbangbot The PC version with a sound blaster card had the best sound and music.
+bigbangbot If the devs know how to use the sega soundchip, you get always a better version compared to the SNES music.
I like the sega sound better too but i dont know how much of it is nostalgia
I feel so old. I remember my parents buying me a Genesis from JC Penney and it came packaged with this game.
Sega controls much better; the hit boxes on SNES are smaller and make swinging from hippo tails much more difficult. I'm amazed you beat that level on the SNES!
This HAS to be on of the most underrated channels on CZcams.
The Sega version had better music in my opinion. The graphics were better in the SNES for being brighter. But at the end of the day I choose Sega.
Circle of Life definitely sounds better on SNES, but most other themes were more lively on the Genesis IMO. Can't wait to be King sounds boring and muddy on the SNES compared to the Genesis which sounds a lot more expressive and goes a pitch higher in the second half just like the original.
Genesis always has crap music
@@SuperPeterok wrong
@@Maru96 Genesis music tends to be sharp, gritty and clanky. SNES music tends to be more orchestral and subtle. Although the quality of Genesis music and especially sound effects tends to be worse, even as a SNES fan I tend to find it a refreshing change every once in a while.
Better sound and music is a big plus, but I think better gameplay is more important and with that cropped screen I might think best gameplay would be the deciding factor vs better sound.
"In a perfect world, we'd get a game with Sega graphics and Super Nintendo sound."
The DOS version is the one you're looking for then. It has that.
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Thanks for the intro guys, it felt like you guys did it specifically did it for me!!! You guys are awesome, thanks for the new video!
Gameplay has a slight edge on Genesis. Apparently there's a jump at the beginning of Hakuna Matata level which is pretty frustrating to pull off on the SNES but on Genesis, they added an animal with a swingable tail to make it more fair. That coupled with being able to see more of the screen makes the Genesis version a less frustrating experience.
The drawing of the Lion King had me dying!! haha Just recently beat this dang game! Took me like a half hour to figure out how to throw Scar...eventually I had to look it up! There is no way I beat this as a kid!
Sega should've won gameplay due to these:
1. Simba jumps higher
2. The edges in the Nintendo are only useful in 5 levels (one with young Simba in Elephant Graveyard, and all adult Simba levels), meaning it's nothing compared to the edge that helps in the 10 levels in Sega.
One cool thing about the SNES version that was cool, graphically, was the lighting affect that comes with the lightning and stuff on some levels. On SEGA the lightning strikes the ground and creates a fire. On SNES it does the same thing, but when it strikes the ground, the rocks nearby light up blue like the lightning - that was cool.
I preferred most of the music in SEGA. SNES has closer quality and vocals, and that edges it up on some tracks (like the title theme for sure) - but most of them sound more...deep and just better imo.
SEGA WINS. The cropped screen in Snes affects the gameplay. Snes wins for the musics? The music on the Canion stage sounds like a symphony of farts in snes; and the sound of the roar in the sega is very better!
There are a lot of farts in the Genesis version's sound effects:
- In the first level: when Simba jumps on hedgehogs, lizards and beetles;
- In the level "The Elephant Graveyard": when the passage opens, after facing two hyenas at the beginning and end of the level, when elephant bones fall and when Simba rolls and opens a passage;
- In the level "Simba's Exile": when the rocks fall.
- In the "Hakuna Matata" level: when Simba jumps on frogs and spiders;
- On the last level when the lightning strikes.
@@JonBR-622 Far better for the sound effects to sound like farts than the music.
Something I seem to notice quite frequently is that whenever they do these games it's always the Super Nintendo game that crop is there ever a Sega game that's cropped instead of Super Nintendo?
Hehe.. Almost every SNES game has lower resolution than a standard display. So the image is cropped compared to Genesis or stretched to fit the screen. It's a flaw that always existed but nobody talked about back then.
Speaking of Disney 16-bit videogames, do you plan to do a Console Wars episode on Jungle Book? The SNES and Genesis versions are quite different.
There are a bunch of bugs in the SNES adult Simba levels that can make them a pain too (in particular the level where you keep falling into the lava - there are invisible walls). I feel like that plus the cropped screen preventing you from even seeing where to jump on giraffe heads in the second level (which is the hardest level by far in the SNES version) really does give Sega a bigger edge.
Bottom line, I think it would have been cool to say it was up to the viewer on this one. ;p
"Graphics / screen ratio, or music? You guys decide."
+PimpUigi We encountered bugs in both games. We didn't feel it gave one game the edge over the other. The cropped screen didn't really effect our play through. We didn't notice it making one game easier.
Let the people decide? We can't do that. It would be chaos. Imagine the consequences. Human sacrifice. Cats and dogs living together. Mass Hysteria!
+Console Wars Too bad there was no Super NES Ghostbusters game.
I know. Maybe we'll review the NES game and Sega Master games.
Finally, a fair video comparison between two consoles and even with detailed explanations. The other video tried to hid one weakness and the comment full of annoying fanboy who keep said their console are better without any strong arguments. Here, the video already told everything. Good job guys, love it so much!
It's dignity! I am not as smart as you Kirk. That Simpsons episode where Milhouse's parents marriage falls apart. Classic!
I have fond memories playing this on the Genesis as a kid in '94. Great video!
The in game music on the Genesis version is definitely better then the Snes. The opening and ending songs are the only one's I would give the Snes the edge on. Genesis also has more parallax scrolling and young Simba's roar isn't a cats meow like on Snes
I still think the Sega wins. The Super Nintendo just doesn't really go for me. Sure the sounds are better but I focus more on the graphics and how smooth the characters look. I honestly think that just because the Super Nintendo has animated letters and cool font, doesn't mean that I appreciate the work put into it. It just means that they added a cool thing to it. Keep in mind this is all my opinion. Thank you.
Pretty sure that Rafiki is actually Ren Höek in a very convincing disguise!
+Ⓙⓞⓔ Ⓢⓝⓔⓢ That's kinda who we were going for. Couldn't do a Rafiki impression if our lives depended on it.
The Lion King Was The Very 1st Movie That my Mom Took me to See in Theaters
OMFG this was HILARIOUS! The Rafiki stuff had me in tears xD
The corn in the poo was a nice touch. Great Video Guys!
+Mizzah Tee Glad you enjoyed it dude!
It's the circle, the circle of digestion.
Sega sound effects when it comes to voice overs is surprisingly very clear. I was watching game play and I was stunned that the voice overs was not distorted like most Sega games
I'd hope you guys make cub Simba's roar compassion.
Because I thought his roar sounded like a cat in the SNES one whiles Sega sounds like a proper roar.
Sega also has RGB capability out of box (with a $20 cable), so when used with a PVM, colors look great with perfect pixels
Genesis should have won this round. Better music expect for the opening theme. It plays better, tighter controls (simba can't even reach some key platforms on the Snes) and has higher resolution. The graphics are really close but in more stages the Snes gets the edge. Just another example of the Snes looking better in a screenshot and the Genesis in motion destroying it. Anyone who disagrees play them back to back it should be painfully obvious after.
Wait the sega music sounds so much better when it's not a vocal version which is just the opening.
They forgot to mention that the VOices in The Genesis Version sound clearer than the snes version
Sonic the Hedgehog vs Super Mario World :D
How do you compare those?
+Mr Zilla It's unorthodox but tbh interesting.
+Razor & Zenon Sonic of course.
I think Super Mario World v.s. Sonic 3 and Knuckles is more fair, because it’s a much larger game.
That should've been the 1st episode.
You know, I think Sega Genesis should have won.
The Super Nintendo is higher in quality, yes, but it's missing things the Sega Genesis has in the music. Fast-paced action mood in the Stampede and the pitch shift in Just Can't Wait to Be King. Hakuna Matata sounds more tropical in the Sega Genesis. Best Sound would be a tie.
I love the teleporting dogs
A new episode of Console Wars! Yaay!!
This game plays better on sega colors aren’t as good and music isn’t as accurate but the music does sound better. You wanna know why? Sega and Disney has a close relationship so most Disney games were made on the genesis first. Games made on genesis first tend to also play better on genesis. The snes ports always have this slight delay in response for ported sega games.
I hate that stock controller argument with these console wars debates. That's just stupid, because the 6 button Sega controller was very easy to get, and most Genesis owners had at least one if not two or more. They even came with later model Genesis consoles so they do count. Most of the time you could buy a Genesis and a 6 button controller or possibly even two of them separately and still pay less than buying a Super Nintendo set with it's stock controllers, so paying extra money to have an equal controller isn't exactly true. When that controller came out I very very rarely used the 3 button controller anymore, and I'm sure many other people did the same thing as well.
LOL!!!!! "did that happen to you?" "no, it happened to my best friend tho" HAHAHAHAHAHA!
You know, I think the SNES colors are closer to a cartoon (which the game is based on) that, and the SNES just has a better color palette to work with, so it's probably closer to what the developers and artists had in mind when they made the game.
Great episode, love the skits! I grew up playing this on SNES and never noticed the cropped image. Now i'm going to have to give the Genesis version a try, but the amazing music will be missed.
So the next game is Home Alone? Sadly I don't think either game is any good. As for my recommendation: Valis III on Sega vs. Super Valis on the Super Nintendo! :D
A birthday video from Console Wars? Epic!
+y2j420 Happy Birthday!
Love this channel! So much nostalgia from my youth!
HOW CAN YOU BE SO FUNNY!!! Question mark. I've seen about ten of your videos. Just found out about you the day before yesterday. Will drag it out, the watching of the episodes I mean, since I don't wan't it to end. But seriously, you're the funniest guys I've seen on the tube in quite some frickin' while. I'm gonna tell all my friends about you. From a Sega fanboy.
You guys are getting really good. I really hope for this to continue. Curious, who write out these scenes?
+Jay Flows Hey thanks. Dan does. He writes the script, films, directs and edits. Oh and he makes the music lol! He was very excited for this opening sequence, I'm kinda excited to do a commentary in the future for this episode lol.
I guess I'm in the small minority that thinks the Sega music is better. I don't really like the super Nintendo music for this game
i totally agree with you. sega has an awesome soundtrack. these guys gave nintendo the win because of how it sounds closer to the movie, with the added chanting. but nobody plays videogames for the music in the first place. and sega's graphics and gameplay should have gave sega the obvious win on this. the music does infact sound way better on sega, in the way of being more clear. the snes music may have added volcas, but the sound is in mono. meaning very quiet. sega plays sound in stereo. which is alot louder and clearler. especially if your using a sega genesis model 2, which already has an audio setup for stereo sound, and is the most common genesis model you can find. infact, the genesis version of the lion king was so popular of a game when it game out, that at one point, sega even sold the modal 2 genesis console along with the lion king as a pack-in game.
As SNES and Sega Genesis fan. The music is better on Sega Genesis. But both play pretty similar 🤷♂️
@@miltywhitneysmiltank6607 "No one plays for the soundtrack"
Ristar, Sonic, Megaman,Castlevania, Mickey mania, Bubsy ahem...
@@SantiagoMonroy5 the fact that you even like Bubsy enough to bring it up, just ruins my opinion of you, to even remotely take your reply seriously. but fact is, alot of genesis music kicks more @$$ then what super nes games could do. MK1 & 2, Sonic 1,2, 3 & knuckles and Rocket Knight Adventures are just a few examples. snes has the donkey kong country 1 & 2, killer instict 1 and legend of zelda: a link to the past music going for it. but sega has always brought the heavy soundtracks in theyre games. not to mention that there was more violent video games on sega then on nintendo. nintendo ruined that for themselves, being agaist violence back in the early 90's. this always made genesis a console for adults. while nintedo was for goddamn babies. sure nintendo slipped a few violent video games into the mix since mk2. and ended mortal kombat games being on theyre console since umk3ds and mkArmagetton too the switch. meanwhile, nintendo was back making games for players in diapers. sega went to nintendo only after losing the console wars with the dreamcast. but that never changed nintendo from being the pussy video game company that they always were. always aiming towards making kiddy games, and hanging out backwards with lower technogy. took them a few years to make an hd console. the switch is just a freaking tablet. and thats still way low tech compared to any andriod tablet that exists, ps4 and xboxone in graphics power.
@@miltywhitneysmiltank6607 baby games? Nintendo of America can be annoying with it's emphasis on being family friendly, but it still has some excellent games
I honestly think the Sega Genesis game has the better soundtrack, because I like the chiptuny sound that it has, and some tracks on SNES just sound wrong to me. I'm not saying the SNES soundtrack is bad, just not as good.
glad you guys did this game, i loved playing it as a kid. i cant wait for more videos
Going on a console wars binge for 6 days starting tomorrow :)
Awesome job on the video.
I own both those versions of The Lion King.
I think I will play both versions tonight or sometime this weekend if I have time.
Also, I hope you guys had a Happy Thanksgiving.
+Nicksolo85 Thanks! Hope you had a good Thanksgiving too.
This was awesome! I'd pay to watch more videos like this!
We need an 8-bit follow-up to this episode with the Master System and NES versions based on the Game Gear and Game Boy versions.
Yay! I wanted to see this episode! Mickey Mania is the game I wanna see you 2 play the most.
+bigbangbot Funny you said that having just thought about it.
+bigbangbot Be surprised for their next unboxing......CRAP, I JUST GAVE AWAY SOMETHING!
+bigbangbot
Mickey Mania is awesome on Genesis/Mega Drive
That was an incredibly hard game.
Jim Profit
yea thats true
It sounds more like the movie, but besides "I can't Wait to be King," the samples they used sound awful. Scratchy and muffled IMO. Sega wins sound for me.
And besides the resolution (which does affect gameplay at times) I think SNES had a better use of color.
But let's be real, they're the same game in the end.
Keep up the great work guys. No clue what the next video is based on the clue, but I assume it'll be Christmas themed.
Well the sample reason is because they used the MOD Files from the DOS Version and I am pretty sure the conversion process sucked
I actually remember playing the genesis version of this game. I remember freezing the title screen which was funny for some reason but I never finished the lava portion of the level.
Also for some reason, the game over music glitched out and sounded like a fly singing once in a while. Weird.
Great episode, btw. Can't wait to see more!
great episode guys! I grew up playing the sega version so I kinda like it more :) I now own it on the snes as well so I'll definitely have to pop it in and give it a try. Awesome job guys!
+RetroGamingManiac Both game are pretty much the same so you're not missing much.
I'd say the Genesis wins on sound also. The title screen on the SNES is obviously better but in all of the other songs, the SNES sounds flat whereas the Genesis' sound has a lot more meat to it.
Nice to see this being released on my Birthday! A great surprise!
+AkumaTh1
Happy birthday!
+AkumaTh1 Happy Birthday!
+AkumaTh1happy birthday!
+AkumaTh1 Happy Birthday!
Thank you all!
Yeeeaaaah I love your channel (still)! Believe it or not, I have the Lion King on both of these consoles and have pretty much never played them. That being said, they look pretty fun. I loved the controller switch at the beginning and the corn at the end! Great video guys... you TOTALLY outclassed those chicks. :-p
+Nintenjoel We're totally classy.
You guys should tally up the total console wins at the end of each episode discreetly somewhere on the screen. and that's great you guys met bill burr. bill burr and Nathan barnatt are my two favorite comedians.
+David Steck Yeah, meeting Bill Burr was one of the coolest things ever. After taking a pic with him we went to a nearby bar and he walked in 5 min later. I actually got to have a regular conversation with him.
This versus is a classic. Really amazing
Honestly, I feel like the Genesis sound is slightly better here. Nintendo's intro may have the vocals, but they're heavily distorted and the Sega version sounds cleaner. The vocals in the stampede scene are much more pronounced on the Sega version while the Nintendo one is more subtle while it beats your ears with a repetitive distorted horn. The rendition of "I Just Can't Wait to be King" on Sega is very clean and nicely mixed, while the Nintendo version has distorted vocals getting in the way of some decent instrument samples.
“It’s not Back to the Future!” 🤣🤣
Sega had beautiful music!
meh... i actually think the snes graphics look much better (; the sega version's higher contrast look is only cause its color palette is so much more limited. i personally don't think the snes looks washed out - it looks fuller to me. at any rate, great video as always!
You're wrong not being able to see whats coming slows down how you can play this game. Gameplay over color palette.
Honestly, I loved the Genesis soundtrack of Lion King considering it's not the usual scratchy Genesis sound chip work but more akin to the Japanese games. The title theme does sound better on the SNES but I thought the rest they were pretty equal.
Great video guys, Nothing like a BladeBlur and Console Wars day.
+BladeBlurX Yeah. Black Friday? More like awesome CZcams Videos Day!
+BladeBlurX That's because the composer was british, not american. European genesis composers were pretty good, the composer for this game is Matt Furniss, he composed tons of great stuff for the console.
Marcel Weber
Well, not all American composers were bad. TOMMY TALLARICO.
***** Yeah, Tommy Tallarico, John Baker and Howard Drossin are the exceptions. But the rest rank from OK to awful.
wow you know a lot more about that than me lol
You need more subscribers.
Captain Joey money corrupts people
So when playing a game having more of a playing area that gives you more to see and looks better isn't more important than slightly better sound?
Ok?
BY THE WAY: 10 DAYS AGO WAS YOUR 4th ANNYVERSARY! CONGRATULATIONS GUYS! (A LITTLE BIT LATE) KEEP IT UP!
+ROJOyNARANJA Thanks!
Have to disagree, I prefer the sound on the Genesis, and the graphics are much better on Genesis as well. Genesis version is much better.
@@yeahright5227 Shoo troll! Shoo!
The AMIGA had the best animation and speed out of the lot of the versions too at second glance. If it had the demoscene style text of the SNES which is normally an AMIGA trademark which didn't exist in this game and it had all the levels plus all the colours AGA supports as well as the memory it would have one best version for sure over everything it's even a game that goes well for both 1 button and 2 button gameplay.
Thank you so much for this episode guys! (I must have missed the episode when it came out)
And thank you for having the Super Nintendo win! I agree, with a game based on a Disney movie with one of the most popular and recoginized soundtracks, the music better be good, and the soundtrack quality on Super Nintendo absolutely melts my ears from the moment I turn on the game
Have to disagree about the sound. The Snes sounds better in places but those comparisons clearly show inferior music for some of the levels for the Snes. It should be a tie for sound, kind of obvious.
One words. Simbas roar. Music goes to Sega.
console wars : B.O.B snes vs sega genesis !! congratulations on channel :) is very entertaining your videos
mega turrican vs super turrican
Different games like aladdin, but both worth checking out. Just avoid NES game.
The combination of PCM-Sounds and Yamaha FM chip sounds cleaner than the full sampled soundtrack on SNES !
how come neither of you addressed Simbas roar on snes sounds like a kitten meow and Sega's sounds like an actual roar?
Always preferred Sega’s.
Just downloaded it on PS5 and the controls and even music is not exactly the same.
Only video of yours I've disagreed with. Sega's version has a bigger screen, tighter gameplay and speed, proper raw effect for Simba, better soundtrack. Snes has it beat on soundtrack sound quality and colours but gotta go with Sega overall.
I really thought the genesis music sounded way more awesome.
8:48 Did young Simba just make Adult Simba's groan? Weird. And I always thought Sega won when it came to upbeat, intense, and hyped music. Great examples could be Comix Zone, Sonic, and Ristar. I always thought it sounded a bit flat with SNES. In my opinion, Sega mostly has better music than SNES. Earthworm Jim would also be a great example, just listen to New Junk City. No question.
9:38 don't forget how the pitches are in line with the movie on Sega.