Console Wars - ClayFighter - Super Nintendo vs Sega Genesis
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2021
- In this episode the rivals take on ClayFighter for the Super Nintendo and the Sega Genesis. These games were similar, but there are differences. Which version of ClayFighter is better? Super Nintendo or Sega Genesis? Find out in this episode of Console Wars!
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The older I get, the more I appreciate the kind of wholesomeness as I've seen from this channel and this fanbase.
We're just having some good old fun over here.
@@ConsoleWars And not only that, after so many videos, this channel has become one of the best for comparing ports. And i'm saying this while being very picky about such channels.
Exactly. It's refreshing after seeing the 1,000th "angry" retro gaming channel screaming edgy profanity for 20 minutes.
Pat is a good vibe, i never watched the channel with the other creator but i do dislike the hate towards pat. Dude is legitimately a fun reviewer and seems honest.
I'll watch this later
"Are we doing this?" Is the best name for a move I've ever heard.
Man hands has to be a close second 🤣
I've seen a movie with that title, and man, they do it... a lot!!!
Hats off to the use of stop motion in this episode! It's so hard to do, but so cool!
It was very hard, but happy with the way it came out
@@ConsoleWars totally worth it! You guys made a great episode here! Just discovered your channel recently and I'm hooked! You guys look like you genuinely have a blast making each episode and that only makes it more fun to watch! Keep up the great work! 👍👍😃
@@elgatofelix8917 That's what we're all about, having fun
I loved the "ARE WE DOING THIS" spin kick haha
@@ShinobiWan1 catchphrase
BTW, just so we keep count of how many times Sega and Nintendo has won throughout this series
Nintendo: 44
Sega: 41
This is actually tight!
But we all know that a lot of those Sega wins are intentionally wrong just to give the channel some parity.
That's a fact.
@@luismiguelsamayoa9405 I've spotted the Nintendo fanboy!
To be fair though, a few wins were given to Sega when I thought Nintendo should win, but I also think there were a couple of wins given to Nintendo when I thought Sega should win.
I personally prefer the SNES, as it's clearly the superior machine. But when it's clear that the game devs decided to make their games for the Genesis first because it's weaker and then port it over to the SNES, usually removing features due to there being less space available because the music samples and sprites inevitably take up more space, it's no wonder the Sega versions end up better so often.
@@DanVzare If my comment had been something against Nintendo, then a Nintendo fanboy would of course have responded by calling me a Sega fanboy.
It is an endless cycle.
On the other hand, it is admirable that many games are superior (in reality) in Genesis being a machine 2 years older, which only shows that it is a great machine very well made.
Like you, I can also see that in several videos various aspects (graphics, sound, presentation, etc.) were incorrectly scored.
But I understand, they do it to keep both "sides" happy.
Meanwhile, those of us who do not belong to either side are the ones who see these details and, of course, we will keep being called fanboys.
Does that include "wins" for Worse game?
Had the SNES version, still have that intro song stuck in my head all these years later.....
"Come on fight them if you dare! (ooh!)"
Gotta love that! I remember the first time hearing that after getting this game for Christmas and just being awestruck and highly amused at the level of humor and innovation in this game! It was the very first game I ever played that had vocals in the music (at the time I had not yet heard of the awesome Psycho Soldier song from SNK which is also great in it's own right, but not humorous like the Clay Fighter music). In fact, all of the music in this game is excellent and incomparable with any other game of that era (I'm referring of course to the SNES version - I did have Genesis in the 90s but didn't know Clay Fighter existed on Genesis - and after watching this video can confirm the SNES did a far better job in the audio department)
Sometimes, it's nice to just spark a bongload and listen to the music from Clay Fighter - especially the intro theme and the theme to Taffy's and Blue Suede Goo's stages - so whimsical and fun to hear even to this day!
I recall reading in Nintendo Power around the time this game came out that the theme song was sung by a band called "Euphony."
@@spindalis79 Nice! I'll have to check them out! Would have been cool if they had a sequel with music from Green Jello like the Maximum Carnage games too!
Reminds me of the Ballz 3D theme song, the Cannon Fodder theme song, and the Skate or Die 2 theme song...gotta love that digitized sample music!
Sega looks like he's not wearing pants in the claymation.
I get it, but my skin is darker
Or maybe you forgot to tan the bottom part lol.
I thought that exact same thing and expected that to be the punchline to the sketch.
@@ConsoleWars to be fair, it is the area that sees the less amount of sun light
@@ConsoleWars reminds me of robot chicken style
Whoa, the SNES ClayFighter intro is incredible! It’s so rare to see SNES games with any kind of lyrics and it sounds so clear.
It always puts a smile on my face to see Greg in the video, even if its a cameo or past footage. :)
Yeah, I still miss seeing him in the channel. I hope he is doing well.
@@alexanderjones3830 I love the new guy (I forget his name) but I also hope Greg is doing welll
@@JoshuaJacobs83 Pat has done an amazing job. He fits the role well. I want to see more Greg cameos though lol
@@alexanderjones3830 Pat! That’s his name. Thank you. It’s like getting an adopted sibling or step parent. Well never forget Greg but, you’re right. Pat has done an amazing job.
Where is Greg?
I was so jealous of the SNES intro song! Gah the painful memories
During the final stop motion fight, the two guys in the corner trying to do inputs for special moves is on point! 😂
Glad someone picked up on that. We all know that struggle
It feels like this was LOOOOONG overdue. Ive been checking my feed every weekend. Happy to finally see something new.
Something new about something old and wonderfully nostalgic... Like Clay Fighter, CLAY CLAY FIGHTER!
get a life dude.
Dude, it was animated with stop motion. That takes a long time
@@EYTPS Yes it does take a long time lol
It was a loooooooot of work though
Should have had a mode 7 finishing move where Pat throws Dan into the screen Ninja Turtles style.
Good call
@RockManLP_Radio Yes, they have
I would like to see Action 52 NES vs Genesis, honestly the changes in the sega game could make it worst then the SNES
NES is worst overall. It has several games that either don't work or crash, making it the worst of the two.
Or Bible Adventures, lol! 😆
"Does an echidna have a four-headed dong?"
"Let's do this!!"
Uh huh huh, you said dong.
That stop-motion you guys did for this can't have been easy. It looks really good.
Shame we never got to see Dan and Greg's super moves, like the Processing Blast, or Mode 7.
Also MAN I wish ClayFighter would get a revival.
Stop motion was fun to watch, gave me a robot chicken feeling.
Excellent as always, I'd love to see either a Weapon Lord or a Saturday Night Slam Masters, matchup......or hell both! Are you doing it!?!?!?
Thanks for the episode! God I miss the 90’s so much.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome episode guys! Best part for me was the stop motion. Growing up I owned the Genesis version of Clay Fighter and remember being really let down that the sequel, Judgment Clay was a Super NES exclusive. It's pretty weird that the Wii got Sega's version for their Virtual Console though. 🤔
Im glad you enjoyed it. I was hoping it would be the part people liked best!
The sequel was going to hit the 32X, but was sadly cancelled.
you're right stopmotion IS fun...and man Clayfighter this game takes me back, heh the Blob I feel is the best character in the game lol, moment I learned how to do his buzzsaw I was sold lol
The SNES version is superior. Even though the game itself isn’t exactly a good game, I still love it. I used to play for hours with my nephew. I still pull it out from time to time. By the way, Taffy’s theme is classic. The best song in the game.
Most of these 16 bit console ports they're comparing aren't very good
Eh i like both. N64 version was crazy too.
@@SgtSega If only the N64 versions had Virtual Console releases.
@@TheRareware64 Especially the coveted Sculptor's Cut.
@@SgtSega IKR?
Love your Console wars series! So much fun, creative and informative :)
Really enjoy y'alls creativity in this episode! Keep it up Console Friends 😬
Easily two of my favorite content creators on CZcams, always happy to see when they release a new comparison. Thank you!
Thanks for the kind words!
Although this game was never the best 16bit fighter it had a lot of personality. I remember renting the Genesis version.
I kinda like the music better on the Genesis though, except for the theme.
Solid episode guys! That last bit had me going pretty good.
Another great episode, loved it!
The stop motion bits are legendary
Thank you! It was a loooooooooooot of work
I feel like I haven’t watched on your guys videos in forever. I’m so glad I was able to catch one again.
Welcome back!
Good Episode.I like how you guys added the stop motion in this episode.
Glad you liked it. It wasn't easy
Awesome, very good Job with the Stopmotion-Parts :D
Thanks! 😄
Been a while since I've watched this channel, but the stop motion has already brought a smile to my face.
I really wanna commend you guys on those stop motion bits. I understand how absolutely INTENSIVE stop motion is and whoever you got to do these segments/however you managed to get them done yourselves really showcases quality and fluidity. For what is essentially just background gags for the video... It really displays care for the content you wanna present with this series. Kudos, pats on the back, Well done.
Thanks you! It was a lot of work. I (Dan) did all of it and I got really mad/frustrated a lot of times, but happy with the end result.
Welcome back, Dan and Pat!
Peace and love from all of us over in Kearny, New Joisey lol
Keep up the exceptional work brothers 🍻
Hey Keanry! Hope you're all fine from the hurricane.
That stop motion you guys did reminded me of the Mortal Kombat parody made in Family Matters "Have some cheese" lol and the grandmother whooping butt lol.
Awesome episode guys! The stop motion scenes are awesome.
Thank you!
all the stop motion footage was great, well worth the effort. keep it up guys!
Thanks!
I recently got the Mega Drive version. It's a fine game. I think that slightly tighter controls do make the Sega version a tiny bit better. But the Snes version really nails the clay look, it's not really there with Sega's dithering. And the soundtrack has more of a punch.
I was waiting for this one, great comparison as always.
Well, based on what you're saying and indeed what the video says, the Genesis version may play a tiny bit tighter, but I tend to judge games based on the sum of all parts rather than only one or two elements, as well as there not being any significant issues in one or more parts that are hard for me to ignore, so, as long as the SNES's slightly slower response doesn't actually make it play bad, I think the SNES deserves the overall win here. And we should never forget that the gameplay on Genesis in this case is largely dependent on you having to go out and purchase an additional 6-button controller or two simply to play the game properly, which is just not an issue on SNES--so that's a genuinely major feather in SNES' cap when it comes to 6-button fighters like this.
@@inceptional I agree. The Snes version is the overall better package. But I do believe that later Genesis models came with the 6-button controller bundled in. I could be wrong though.
"BUMFUZZLE"
Oh boy guys, the attention to detail and the skits were fantastic this episode. Props on the stop motion too.
You guys are very cool in my book. Incredible sense of humor and over all good feels. Thanks dudes, you make my days better!
I was looking foward for a new Console Wars episode!!!
I love the episode guys! I cant wait for the live stream of this games! A FT 10 would be great!
This was pretty good! Great stop motion! Success to you guys! You deserve!
Thank you!
Thanx for the episode, guys. Luv the stop motion animation.
Thanks! It wasn't easy
Crazy awesome work!
CZcams literally never shows me videos from channels I'm subscribed to on the same day that they premier. Oh well, gonna enjoy this one!
Don't forget about Sega's Blast Processing lol
Ideas
- Tim Burton’s Batman (NES vs Genesis)
- Hulk (Super Nintendo vs Genesis)
- Rings of Power vs Super Mario RPG (Genesis vs Super Nintendo)
- Castlevania: Shymphomy of the Night (Saturn vs PS1)
- Resident Evil 1 (PS1 vs Saturn)
- Resident Evil 2 (N64 vs PS1)
- Toy Story 2 (PS1 vs Dreamcast vs N64)
& finally The Billy Madison Debate
- The DKC Trilogy vs MK Genesis Trilogy (Super Nintendo vs Genesis)
- Spongebob: Battle for Bikini Bottom (PS2 vs GameCube)
- Kids Next Door: Operation Video Game (PS2 vs GameCube)
The stop motion on this is a helluva lot of fun. Superb episode!
BEFORE it came out
@@powerpuffboy901in his defense he could have seen it on Patreon since it came out there 4 days ago. Maybe.
@@Night-Jester I am so Blipping stupid!
I've been waiting for this episode
Hope you liked it!
@@ConsoleWars I sure did
Took a long time for a new console Wars.. Welcome back! I Was waiting for a new episode!
Did you see the stop motion? That takes time
I saw it, it was EPIC!
SNES version wins for sure. It has better graphics, sound, controls that use all 6 buttons on the SNES pad, and even an opening theme with vocals!
No
The sound possibilities on SNES still surprises me. Listen to NBA 96 ost. That heavy guitar tune and drums, on a cartridge. It's real music. Right there
Sure that's why Nintendo put the Sega version on their E shop.
@@hemphog4570 nintendo are idiots
@@hemphog4570 Nintendo put the Snes version on other collections
I played ClayFighter Tournament Edition on SNES. Glad you guys uploaded on my 30th birthday today. Thanks for a cool video, guys.
Awesome stop motion fight scene, inclusion of Greg, and jazzy theme cover at the end
Awesome video, loved the stop-motion!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The Stop Motion inclusion was really cool. I expected clay models to appear but didn't expect you to go the full mile and animate them. I've got to agree with Dan about the grainy look of the Mega Drive version being quite charming; it looks to even add a bit of texture to a couple of levels. As always, a fantastic video!
Thanks! It was a lot of work
For first of April episode you can create "Console friends". It would be very fun!🤣
If you look at the top of the screen, you can see just as much (or close to the same) of the background on the Sega because of the higher resolution it displays at. So the see through life bars on the SNES do not give you a greater look of the stage, in fact, they obstruct what you can see clearly on the Genesis.
3:53 proves otherwise. You can see the top of the boat's head, on SNES.
Omg that stop motion is glorious, I’m like 5 seconds in and I love it
We thought it would be lots of fun
You guys never cease to entertain me.
We aim to please!
Nice work with the stop-motion. I love the effort you're putting into these - they're always a fun watch! I'd love to see you guys do Flashback: The Quest for Identity!
I do put a loooooot into these videos. Always happy when people recognize that
@@ConsoleWars You can really tell! With having to know the games inside out and then writing a script, doing the acting, and special effects, it's amazing you've managed so many episodes. I wish you had more subs/views as your videos are great fun and very watchable/binge-able. I've never done this before, but I might have to sign up to Patreon for you guys as it's really not fair you don't have more subs/support given the effort put in.
@@craigbeckley2710 Comments like these make me happy
This Clay Fighter reminds me of Celebrity Deathmatch. Great episode!
Thank you!
Finally a video game comparison to one of the most rarest video games out there just for the idea of the video game alone. Thank you for doing this video gentlemen.
Huh ? These games aren't rare . Maybe you're thinking of a different game in the same series on the n64 .
@@chrisr529 I was thinking about one of the series games, but I forgot which one is the rarer one to find.
Hope you enjoyed it
@@ConsoleWars Yes I did. Thank you for asking and for this amazing video.
Man, you guys deserve way more subs and views than you get. Been watching forever now and it boggles the mind.
Thank you! We agree
A NEW CONSOLE WARS VIDEO HELL YEAH.
Another great episode, well done
Thank you!
Back during the early 90's fighting game craze I remember being so obsessed with this game til I rented it. Solid title and lots of fun with a friend but yeah all in all nothing super noteworthy. Really cool to see you guys do an episode on it and per usual loved the various skits, that end fight was perfect.
that stop motion edit is superb! reminds me of Jason and the Argonauts👍👍great video overall
Thank you!
I listened to this while falling asleep. Dreamed I had a pizza with you guys. Even in my dream and all that weirdness you two were awesome, funny and genuinely good guys. The pizza was overpriced though lol
one of the best channels on youtube,well done guys,i love watching you...i think u havent done The smurfs comparison yet (snes vs genesis) so what u waiting for??let do this ;)
Awesome video!! Stop motion was very cool!! I really want a console friends show now!!🤣🤣👍👍
Thank you!
You guyz are sooooo awesome! Keep it up!! ^w^
So happy when there's a new episode :))) So good and making fresh and clean my late evenings (a period in my life which I need something like that so much...I lost my woman, my savings, my job. My heart. My life.) and I'm really thankful that you continue to FIND TIME to make this channel still relevant. Regards as always - from a fan since 2014 from Eastern Europe, Bulgaria ! :)
Hang in there. Im sure things will turn around soon!
i'm not bothered about how long this episode could've been done before because the outcome was fantastic!
...especially the ending skit!
Thank you!
Great episode guys, believe it or not, I have never played "Clay Fighter". I remember hearing of it, but never brought myself to try it. The game does look choppy, but still looks worthwhile. Also major props to the stop-motion segments, those were dope!
Thank you!
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHENS CLAY?!
Thanks for this video guys!
Wow thats some buff stuff : D. Love that intro!
Awesome work as usual!!
Thank you!
I've waited for this for 6 years!
Hope you enjoyed it!
Im gonna have to put in for MUSHA (Genesis) vs Super Aleste/ Space Megaforce for Snes at some point. Both Compile shooters in the Aleste series, both viciously defended and compared against eachother.
My guess is MUSHA
@@gonefornow5218 Same here, MUSHA has better pacing imo
Played MUSHA thanks to an unlicensed cartridge (an original copy is just WAY too expensive): couldn't get past stage 3 but it was pretty good. Super Aleste I have yet to try it.
Both crazy over priced.
I agree. That would be a great Console Wars episode
Nice video guys. Loved the stop motion animation. Now we need console wars fighter made
I know. We should make a fighting game, right?
@@ConsoleWars definitely! Make that stop motion too
this was really fun! thanks!
Another awesome video keep it up guys
Thank you!
Great stop-motion segments, guys! I'll have to give Clayfighter a try sooner or later (maybe I'll FINALLY be able to to understand something about tournament fighters)....
Just sending some love. Love your videos as always. I remember playing that game as a kid. Thank you for bringing back those memories from my childhood. Be safe. Don't forget judge dredd for the next episode LOL
i only get 1 hour of electricity per day, and what better way to use 20 minutes of them watching console wars ? truly my sunday got from bad to much much better, thank u guys for bringing a smile to my face.
Glad you enjoyed it! The stop motion was a lot of work
@@ConsoleWars and we all appreciate ur hard work for such quality content.
I love that the videos have the vibe of 2007 CZcams. Nothing is flashy at all. Just two goofs who love games
43 wins for Nintendo, 41 wins for Sega and 1 draw (Battletoads & Double Dragon) I sometimes see comments saying these guys are biased to one company.. obviously not looking at the results.
Best Sega
1. Aladdin
2. Mortal Kombat
3. Castlevania
4. Contra: Hard Corps
5. Jurassic Park
6. Streets Of Rage
7. Ren & Stimpy
8. Earthworm Jim
9. Power Rangers The Movie
10. Robocop Vs Terminator
11. Streets Of Rage 2
12. Streets Of Rage 3
13. Dr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine
14. Toy Story
15. Scooby Doo
16. Home Alone
17. WWF Wrestlemania Arcade Game
18. Captain America & The Avengers
19. Tiny Toons
20. NBA Jam
21. Mickey Mania
22. Bram Stoker’s Dracula
23. Revolution X
24. Beauty & The Beast
25. Taz-Mania
26. Home Alone 2
27. Cool Spot
28. Boogerman
29. Sparkster
30. Joe & Mac
31. Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
32. The Simpsons Bart’s Nightmare
33. Paperboy 2
34. Demolition Man
35. The Lost Vikings
36. Doom
37. Mega Turrican
38. Batman Forever
39. Fatal Fury
40. Double Dragon
41. The Great Waldo Search
Best Nintendo
1. TMNT Turtles In Time
2. X-Men Mutant Apocalypse
3. YS 3 Wanderers From YS
4. Street Fighter 2 Hyper Fighting
5. Animaniacs
6. Alien 3
7. Mickey Mouse Magical Quest
8. Final Fantasy 2
9. Beavis & Butthead
10. The Adventures Of Batman & Robin
11. Zombies Ate My Neighbours
12. Bubsy
13. Super Ghouls N’ Ghosts
14. Tom & Jerry
15. ShadowRun
16. The Lion King
17. Mario Paint
18. Sunset Riders
19. Mortal Kombat 2
20. Run Saber
21. Samurai Shodown
22. Batman Returns
23. Primal Rage
24. Power Rangers Fighting Edition
25. Wayne’s World
26. Maximum Carnage
27. Super Smash TV
28. Battletoads
29. Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein
30. Justice League
31. Prince Of Persia
32. Ninja Gaiden
33. Chester Cheetah
34. Earthworm Jim 2
35. Daze Before Christmas
36. Super Scope
37. TMNT Tournament Fighters
38. The Addams Family
39. SNES Classic Console
40. American Gladiators
41. Super Back To The Future 2
42. T2 The Arcade Game
43. Clayfighter
DRAW
1. Battletoads & Double Dragon
Sweet job on compiling the winner’s lists so far 👍 very close war between the 2 consoles. Impressive as the Genesis is less powerful
As a fan of stop motion animation, the lengths you guys went to actually making animated scenes was absolutely worth the wait.
Thank you!
You guys are pretty funny. You should make more of these videos. It could be a series or something.
Nah...maybe?
“Bumfuzzle” 😄 now that’s good stuff
Console Wars action figures confirmed.
Also, Man hands!
Bravo and big thanks for this new video
Ok, since you went THERE, now you have to do Ballz 3D
Great video guys and love the stop motion effects! You work hard on them. Should have put Goro in the fight due to him being stop motion. See Y'all in the Wolfchild video!
That music intro gets me amped every time!
As it should
Nice video! I remember my friend and I renting Clay Fighter on Megadrive, I was disappointed because I had hoped to find something else that I can’t remember. Later I finished the arcade mode and was disappointed to see the generic ending screen - no character-specific ending… I didn’t know about the proper ending being on hard mode until now!
Nice Comix Zone reference, especially how well it fits with seeing lots of BSG (9000!) in the episode. Had a good laugh at your disgust that the games had a tie. Funny to see some stop motion since the Angry Nerd just used some in his Halloween episode to animate his Freddy and Jason action figures. HAWEDOINTHIS?!
With the clay presentation the best console war channel is console wars❤
Jon Snow’s direwolf, Ghost. Arrested Development, Buster. Hmm…. I guess next episode we’ll see who they’re gonna to call.
So Ghostbusters? Possibly a new NES VS Master System video? Never would have guessed. Still, it will be nice to Sega win one for once.
This is the first comment that actually got it right
Much respect for the stop-motion :)
Thanks!