Hey boys I lost my job in May during the pandemic, just scored myself a diesel mechanic apprenticeship to reskill into something I love, started 2 weeks ago. Thought you'd wanna hear it. Keep up the content fellas you've been a godsend during the unemployed times.
@@ZX6R-w6y Its going really well actually man thanks for asking. Haven't made too many mistakes and feel way more confident now than I did when I first started. Hoping to get into working on earthmoving equipment when I get qualified. Thanks for asking mate.
Iv done plenty of diesel road tunes. I log using data from software like Techstream both before and after remapping. I do a general health check pre tune as well. I log Air fuel ratio with an Innovate sniffer. I also hook up a temp boost guage. To confirm what the map sensor is reading is accurate. Not all carpark tuners are equal. My files are prepared by professional writers and can be changed as many times as I need. My transmission files are also custom designed. I use a smoke maker to check for manifold and plumbing leaks. When I offer optional dyno hire for the extra dollars people opt for the road tune 9 times out of 10. I have also had to retune vehicles that ultimately had been to big dyno tuners and were suffering from overfueling and reliability issues.
After destroying a std common rail engine( ranger, injector fail = hole in piston, 10 k for 2nd hand engine)Then a V8 crd 76 cruiser with excessive blow by. I have now gone Back to a tuned TD42, PRE common rail, same grunt, Heaps more reliable. And the pootrol is way more capable off road
Sounds good mate, but I will keep my 8Lt 6 cyl normally aspirated diesel 4X4, there is no substitute for cubic inches. Much better & more reliable than a high strung Hiroshima screamer rice burner.
@@staytuned9176 No Worries Mate But you completely missed the point, or you cant read the English language correctly, either way a bloody turbo is just another rice burner wannabe sub for the lack of real cubes.
@@staytuned9176 That's Spot-On Mate, & yes you are correct we do cruse along between 80/90 km/h & have been for the last 7 years, but you also have to take into account we weigh just under 14 tons & a range of approximately 1,370 km. Due to the fact that most of our travels are extremely remote at times the less to go wrong the better, hence the reluctance for any bolt on bullshit As they say Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS) & were never in any dam hurry to get anywhere anyway.
Why not go back to a horse an cart natural breathing all the time and cuts the lawn. That combination could be good for you an your 14 tons but your a little off topic mate.
diesel engines dont run lean, they ether overfuel or under power (not the same as running lean) as diesel's are a compression ignition engine but hey what would i know
@@tristo8881 haha yeah cause doing a tune on common rail diesels , don’t account for correction values in ecu over time and if your having issues sometimes won’t show the injectors at fault cause map been changed
Gday Shaunno🤙🏽 were all looking for the bigger shaft 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️😂😂. But fairdinkem how bout a show on the old school mechanical pumps as I’m bout to seek a tuner for 12HT rebuild I have. Cheers top show.
So I got a new intercooler and custome tune from ultimate diesel and it blows black.. not good all out of a sudden? 🤔 Oh and I forgot that the new intercooler piping popped of on 2 different connections because the clamps weren't tight...
@@naushad911 forgive my ignorance but you literally commented on a 4x4 247 video titled how to avoid diesel tuning disasters. Where Shauno is talking to a 4x4 diesel tuning specialist. It's a little like you have walked into KFC and suggested they put fish tacos on the menu
In perth modified diesel tuning did a custom remap for me and have had absolutely 0 issues, would reccomend highly as well as united fuel injection also do some very reputable tuning work!!
I payed for a dyno tune but i feel like i got a reflash, a dyno run and out the door. My 2.5 r51 pathfinder smokes heaps on high rpm. A good diesel tune should not smoke if done correct. Wish i had a tuner like you in my area. 98kw to 114kw, Max boost from 22psi to about 25psi. More fuel, Torque 400 to 500NM. Car feels heaps better but i dont like the extra soot.
My brother is a 4wd guy , however I'm a jdm junkie last time I was there my car got tuned for 5 hours . Im pretty sure it's the same for every engine . Wow
I agree with what you're saying BUT If you develop one of those issues 100kms after you do the tune you're gonna be in the same situation. Having a gauge to monitor EGTs is good on a stock engine but imo essential on a tuned one.
Modern cars are de-rated EVERYWHERE for hardware preservation, regardless of how good your tuner is they’re not gonna know the limit of your exhaust valve temperature or clutch pack 5 in the transmission without trial & error. Also besides emissions modern cars are tuned to within an inch of their lives so any increase in torque or rpm is playing with fire.
All well and good saying that a dyno tune is great, but not everyone can afford a dyno tune, so obviously a “car park” tune is a bit more cost effective for some .
I had one... Killed 2 injector pumps and a set of injectors. After spending a fair amount I put up for sale then the company called me and offered me peanuts for the car a day later.. Still have the car and its back to stock and working
I took my 80 series with a 1hz to auto care in Mtgambier to get a dyno an tune .. 5 months later they tell me my injectors fuel pump valves etc are fucked so I had to replace them 5 grand later an they put it on the dyno an blow my engine !!!!! NEVER GO TO AUTO CARE IN MTGAMBIER
damn that sucks. have to be careful with the 1HZ very good engine but they don't handle lots of fuel well easy to blow them up even if a bad tune doesn't blow it up it can shorten engine by a lot.
as in breather lines,,, we generally run them up the chasis into either the engine bay,, or plumbed into the airbox/snorkel usualy to keep them dry when doing river crossings and water
If you have a newish stock and well maintained car which to be fair is rare there is nothing wrong with a "car park tune" companies like apr or cobb spend years developing these tunes and they are very safe. There are alot of dodgy dyno tuners too. Only get your car tuned by someone reputable
Hey Chris, there is everything wrong with a carpark tune mate. Why would you want to put a tune file onto your brand new rig that you (say) tow a 3T van with a lot, when the file was done on a rig that has done 200,000klms & never tows?
@@UltimateDieselTuning read my post mate, you use the term "car park" tune for anything not done on a dyno. I said use a professional company like Apr or cobb which do amazing flash tunes tbat have had hundreds of thousands of test miles put on them in all conditions. I could use the same argument why would i send my car to a guy with a dyno that has no idea what hes doing? Also you cant replicate 100s of thousands of miles of road testing on 2 hours of a dyno. Seen the same horror stories from dyno tunes. Also do you simulate towing a 3 tonne van in all weather conditions on the dyno? 45 degree day in darwin? I bet you dont test for different ambient temperatures
@@UltimateDieselTuning as i said i my car is a brand new amarock with 3000kms on the clock then yes it is. If im running a 1990 landcruiser with bigger injectors, bigger turbo, exhaust then no you have to go with a custom dyno tune obviously
Thanks for the info. I have a 2015 Territory diesel AWD (yes soft roader) with 130k on the clock. I got a quote from Ultimate Diesel for a custom dyno tune. $2495. My car park tune quote was $325. You just said it was only a few hundred difference. My comment is no reflection on the 4X4 247 show, just the way this segment has been both presented and portrayed.
@@UltimateDieselTuning it was $2495 plus I wanted a cylinder head clean and catch can installed (I would provide the Provent 200) that was another $500. $2995 in total. I'm happy to hear an alternative...
As long as the dyno tuner doesn´t have a fan big enough to simulate the windspeed in all speed ranges (even for a snorkel, if fitted ) it´s still a carpark tune!
@@crimson2822 flames burn faster and hotter in the presence of more oxygen. More air relative to fuel than usual, means more oxygen than usual. So the flame burns hotter and faster than it should and will raise the temperature of the combustion chamber.
@@MrPeterDWatson Yes that’s correct for petrol engines, however Diesel engines it works in the complete opposite way. Do a simple google search if you don’t believe me...
MY BOYS n80 Makes 200rwhp 148kw with bigger stronger intercooler ,decat and tune 3" stainless in and out with hiflow airbox next is turbo upgrade and retune has stock turbo known to fail at 21psi
at the end of this type of Dyno tune is the vehicle still within the Australian Standards? is the U9 setting on a throttle controller also within the Std's still?
Most of the tuned diesels here in the states are garbage. Black smoke everywhere, big wheels with rubber band tires, enough lights so that the space station can see them and never venture off the asphalt. I refer to them as Honda civics on steroids.
Like my mums 2008 Nissan navara d40 a guy who had it before my mum was playing with the diesel stuff and mum put a new turbo in it and when it gets 2 2500rpm It just drops boost completely going up hills like it stalled but dumps out heaps of smoke
great advice, many thanks. I have a new D Max coming next month. Should i wait and see how it goes or make a pre-emptive strike and get done from the get go?
Big tip: change the rear drive shaft at about 100K, if you have one. I have a 5 litre, twin turbo, V10 Touareg, 355 awHP and 960 Nm of tractive effort after a proper dyno. I have Hi/Lo and a centre knuckle. Dynos monster the drive chain - just watch the snap to max RPM and sudden taper. Surprisingly, the Audi drive shafts are the largest for VW and Porsche. I replaced the front drive shaft by 120K. Dynos don't measure torque, they measure tractive effort at the wheels.. Torque is measured at the fly wheel/crank interface. I'm an overlander with a 1725 Kg camper trailer. All is on song.
Do you mean driveTRAIN? The taper at higher RPM is simply the standard turbo running out of puff, dynos do not put extra pressure on drivetrains. Our dyno can & does measure torque in Newton Meters, at the wheels.
What a great video, but, you guys always only look at half of the picture. I have yet to see you guys talk about petrol motors. For all the hype and reccomdations for entry level 4wding recommending these on beers in the shed, have you thought about this as a topic or doing and episode on petrols and getting the most out of your standard motors and popular mods to popular 4wds used in the market today. I know there are a stack of companies that do things for petrols and would love to see some content on this. Why not put a poll on the socials and see what we, the 4wd community would like to see?
Just curious what sort of warranty is offered on these tunes if your tuning a new or near new car? Or are you better to wait for the end of factory warranty period?
Hey Troy. A custom dyno tune won't void warranty mate. In the case of an engine issue, then the manufacturer must prove, with sufficient evidence, that the tune caused the issue. They cannot just void the warranty. Tuners should have their own warranty too, like we do. Please give us a call on 1800034373 for further information on this.
Someone I know had issues with their engine after a tune, he then got stuck in the blame game between the manufacturer and the tuner and never got his repair bill covered by either of them. Neither would put anything in writing either. He said he wouldn’t do it again.
@@djnmv we can see how that would happen. Generally speaking you need to go above the service advisors & service manager & get a case study done. That is when you'll find it'll fall in the customer's favour. If, of course, it wasn't the tuners fault. We have been through this, only a handful of times, & have always come out on top. We step in for the customer & get it done. For example, an injector failure is one of the most common issues woth common rail turbo diesel engines & that will happen with an untuned engine too. Every manufacturer has replaced thousands upon tens of thousands of engines due to failed injector/s, which is a component failure.
Lost me at 4.15 when you said you leaned it out and reduced the EGT's . Leaning usually raises the EGT I thought . At least it does in piston engine aircraft when you lean the mixture to peak EGT then run it rich of peak .
Hi guys I've had a remap and dyno tune but since then I have put a delete muffler on would that effect the tune and should I put the vehicle back on the dyno
So if there’s the ‘free’ horsepower just sitting there why did the manufacturer not tune it this way? They aren’t going to make a car less powerful just to support the aftermarket industry. So what other aspects of the motor are compromised when you retune like this? Are your tunes tested to ensure they still meet emissions regulations? Or is that the next generations problem?
Manufacturers tune their engines usually so they can warrant them. They want to be replacing as little components as possible, in turn spending less money in aftersales support. Also, due to the massive variance in fuel quality, a baseline tune must be able to run the engine in safe parameters regardless of what batch of fuel is put in the vehicle. Again, want to spend less on fixing a customer's car do to uncontrollable circumstances, which is totally understandable. Another big thing is emissions. They must achieve below a certain threshold of pollution, and typically 'detuning' an engine means lesser output of power, and lesser output of co2 emission. Factory tunes are always worse than what an experienced aftermarket tuner can provide in terms of driveability, fuel economy, and reliability.
I spoke to these guys a couple of weeks ago. Very helpful and took the time to discuss my problem, even though they were never going to work on my car. I have an '04 D22 Navara and they don't work on cars that old. They did put me onto another business who could help. Also a busy business, it's a 4 week wait just for diagnosis.
I’m in SA and drive a 2000 3L patrol and keep getting told no one in SA dyno tunes them and that I have to send my computer outa state to be modded and have a tune uploaded onto it.... this always sounded similar to a car park tune to me and figured I’d just deal with limp mode and sitting behind slow drivers because I cannot over take them haha 😅
@@UltimateDieselTuning which is probably why they tell me my computer needs to be modded.... but every store that I have either called or spoke to online all said it needs to be sent outa state.... ECPT was the company most recommended to me.....
@@Viperflame08 you may have to travel interstate for this. We used to do them with Unichips - there is absolutely no need to send your factory ECU away at all. These days we only remap the common rail turbo diesel engine ECUs
I got a stock non turbo SD25 diesel engine it done over 400,000 km and in doing a full engine rebuild kit to put in and thinking to get the head ported out to get more power can I do that ?
Mmm I got 151 kW at3600rpm 580 Newton metres of torque at the wheels with a 3 inch lift and 32s for my Colorado 2016 with 100000ks runs like a dream I will admit that I probably do need to get a trans cooler🔥🔥🔥 but the engine temperature never goes past quarter and even at 40 degrees I've never seen it get close to half way
That's great! All dynos read differently though, so what matters are the figures from before the tune, to the figures after the tune. Work that out in percentage & you have your real gains in power & torque achieved!
Id love to see the print out. And I'd love to know why the dyno it was on gave such inflated numbers... You're not making those figures sorry mate. I bet it drives a shit load better and am happy for you. And you wouldn't know anything about what the engines temps are like with the temp gauges put in modern cars. They do not represent what the engine temp is at in real time. They have stages, there could be a temperature variance of 30 degrees C before the needle even moves.
@@JSH083 thanks mate😃 but I do have a legend x big boy intercooler put in plus a straight 3 inch turbo back stainless Steel and 4 inch stainless steel snorkel and since then I noticed the temp drop drop down and the fan not turning on
@@UltimateDieselTuning 💯😃 mate I was also going to ask what did that Colorado have inside it I did do my homework and got the legend X big boy intercooler and I was lucky enough not to have a DPF filter in my car so I got a 3 inch from the turbo back which I know from you guys reduces the temperature by 70 degrees everything I've done to that car was all about reducing the heat 🔥💥❤️
I have a 2012 Prado 150 3.0 Diesel with 115000km that is using way more fuel than it used to, when new, I used to see 9l/100km, now I am lucky to see 13l/100km. It probably did not help that the vehicle basically went nowhere in 2020 (I think that it was the same tank of fuel through the entire year). I am thinking a full soot clean, possibly injector clean and tune might be worthwhile. What do you reckon?
Yes absolutely mate. One of our on-car chemical soot cleans will do it wonders, plus a custom dyno tune by us to suit your engine/car & what you use your vehicle for! Expect awesome gains in power & torque, plus an improvement in fuel economy.
I hate to say it’s proven a tune to a prado with a 1kv-FTV engine. . Iit cracks pistons nearly guaranteed. Even with the injectors changes and regular service. Best to leave them alone. They are highly strung engines as it is
@@UltimateDieselTuning I’m confident you are correct. Not denying it. Just with the odds of a cracked piston with that engine I won’t take the risk. If I have a 200 series on the other hand I’ll come see you guys g
@@anthony.grisan mate a tune isn't BLACK AND WHITE. it isnt a case of "oh its tuned, therefore". If someone really wanted to, they could 'tune' a 1kd to be absolutely BULLETPROOF. But you'd get no grunt whatsoever. However, if you're so worried about cracking or melting pistons, then the tuner can provide you with the same power, tidy up the fuelling so it runs so much cooler and thus more reliably. As long as the tuner KNOWS what they are doing. Just like any tradesman. The better tradie, churns out the better finished product. Simple as that.
Hi Matty. No, we tune cars with far more k's on the clock than yours. Just needs to have a pre-tune inspection carried out (as do all cars) & then if all is right, if you have no soot in the engine, then it'll be fine to tune. We'll just be more conservative with the tune, due to the higher k's on your engine.
No you don't. And no, no risk to an auto trans. Some manuals will need a clutch upgrade prior to tuning - like the 70 Series Cruisers, Hiluxes & Colorados.
@@UltimateDieselTuning usually, how much torque would yo put out on an isuzu dmax? generally speaking, i know each car will vary depending on how well it has been taken care of
Hey boys I lost my job in May during the pandemic, just scored myself a diesel mechanic apprenticeship to reskill into something I love, started 2 weeks ago. Thought you'd wanna hear it.
Keep up the content fellas you've been a godsend during the unemployed times.
Good onya mate. Please make the most of this opportunity.
Well done mate👍
Good on ya, and good luck! Btw love your name,🤣
1 year on,how’s the apprenticeship going?
@@ZX6R-w6y Its going really well actually man thanks for asking. Haven't made too many mistakes and feel way more confident now than I did when I first started. Hoping to get into working on earthmoving equipment when I get qualified. Thanks for asking mate.
I just hit the screw on the fuel pump with the impact, goes mint now 👌👌
turn it in till she runs away then back it off a hair
@@HogLux Bloody oath mate, no fancy smancy shit needed
Let it soot to the moon
no smoke .. no poke !!
strip it out then back it off a turn. thats the torque spec for everything
Rob is always very professional with clear communication, and very well presented. I wish they were here in NZ.
Cheers mate
Iv done plenty of diesel road tunes.
I log using data from software like Techstream both before and after remapping. I do a general health check pre tune as well.
I log Air fuel ratio with an Innovate sniffer.
I also hook up a temp boost guage. To confirm what the map sensor is reading is accurate.
Not all carpark tuners are equal.
My files are prepared by professional writers and can be changed as many times as I need.
My transmission files are also custom designed.
I use a smoke maker to check for manifold and plumbing leaks.
When I offer optional dyno hire for the extra dollars people opt for the road tune 9 times out of 10.
I have also had to retune vehicles that ultimately had been to big dyno tuners and were suffering from overfueling and reliability issues.
After destroying a std common rail engine( ranger, injector fail = hole in piston, 10 k for 2nd hand engine)Then a V8 crd 76 cruiser with excessive blow by. I have now gone Back to a tuned TD42, PRE common rail, same grunt, Heaps more reliable. And the pootrol is way more capable off road
Yeah nice f the new tech it’s all for emissions crap
great tip. Been a tech for over 15yrs and always good to see people pointing out the smart choices.
Gday, I'm Andrew from Berrima diesel.
He’s a legend but his quotes are even more legendary😂
Interested. See above.
Defo not Andrew lol 🤣
I’d love to see the difference in fuel pressure, boost pressure and injection timing between those tunes.
Sounds good mate, but I will keep my 8Lt 6 cyl normally aspirated diesel 4X4, there is no substitute for cubic inches. Much better & more reliable than a
high strung Hiroshima screamer rice burner.
There definitely is. Its called a turbocharger
@@staytuned9176 No Worries Mate But you completely missed the point, or you cant read the English language correctly, either way a bloody turbo
is just another rice burner wannabe sub for the lack of real cubes.
@@aussiedrifter bahahahahaha. OK then. Enjoy doing 80 km/h everywhere in your asthmatic diesel 😂😂
@@staytuned9176 That's Spot-On Mate, & yes you are correct we do cruse along between 80/90 km/h & have been for the last 7 years,
but you also have to take into account we weigh just under 14 tons & a range of approximately 1,370 km.
Due to the fact that most of our travels are extremely remote at times the less to go wrong the better, hence the reluctance for any bolt on bullshit
As they say Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS) & were never in any dam hurry to get anywhere anyway.
Why not go back to a horse an cart natural breathing all the time and cuts the lawn. That combination could be good for you an your 14 tons but your a little off topic mate.
Nice seeing shauno on 9news on Sunday 😂😂
What did he do 😂
Done himself a mischief???
@@kalebparkinson92 He was talking about the prices of the cars and how they have lifted.
Should have your mate give discounts when vids like this are posted. Get more business his way!
Think they get enough business, I've been on their waiting list for weeks.
@@dylanslater83 wow in that case they need to expand an open more locations lol
@@devilselbow that my friend is how the rich get richer haha
Mate if you think that's isn't already happening your a fool
Well he had to do a video , as payment for the Dirty 30 tune.... Gotta love Kickbacks !
Is all about them getting kickbacks
diesel engines dont run lean, they ether overfuel or under power (not the same as running lean) as diesel's are a compression ignition engine but hey what would i know
Not much clearly
@@nuggetzor yeah as fuel injection technician I don’t know anything 🙄
@@devilselbow yes they do but if you don’t feed a diesel enough fuel they can still run but can’t run them lean
lol come on now mate,,, that doesnt sell stuff telling the truth ;)
@@tristo8881 haha yeah cause doing a tune on common rail diesels , don’t account for correction values in ecu over time and if your having issues sometimes won’t show the injectors at fault cause map been changed
You guys really know how to make some good content keen to see you guys go out west
If the tuner did his job completely, doesn’t matter where u are . It works perfect .
about 2 mins in .. shauno , the owner of Sooty & dirty 30 , says there is too much soot ??
.. From modern vehicles .. you conveniently missed that part. A 60 series isnt a modern vehicle.
Like a woman, u leave out half the story and pick and choose what you wanna hear to fit your own agenda. Lol
Gday Shaunno🤙🏽 were all looking for the bigger shaft 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️😂😂. But fairdinkem how bout a show on the old school mechanical pumps as I’m bout to seek a tuner for 12HT rebuild I have. Cheers top show.
So I got a new intercooler and custome tune from ultimate diesel and it blows black.. not good all out of a sudden? 🤔
Oh and I forgot that the new intercooler piping popped of on 2 different connections because the clamps weren't tight...
You guys should start custom tuning outboard marine engines!
Out of curiosity do outboard dynos even exist?
You have a diesel out board?
@@jarradblair1793 What does a dyno have to do with the fuel type?
People tune petrol engines too you know.
@@naushad911 forgive my ignorance but you literally commented on a 4x4 247 video titled how to avoid diesel tuning disasters. Where Shauno is talking to a 4x4 diesel tuning specialist.
It's a little like you have walked into KFC and suggested they put fish tacos on the menu
@@jarradblair1793 Well, it wasn't me. That was done by Mr. Chris Oh!
Dealer says no matter who does it a custom tune will void warranty? I'm worried about warranty
In perth modified diesel tuning did a custom remap for me and have had absolutely 0 issues, would reccomend highly as well as united fuel injection also do some very reputable tuning work!!
Street quick proformance 👌🏻
How much did it cost you?
@@bigjimbo5993 $1200 but already had hd clutch 3 inch exhaust aftermarket intercooler etc so was all ready to go
@@Swwa89 they got a facebook page?
Thank you for d advisory regardng n intercooler n hilux turbo..👍
Why don’t you tune a trailer hitch and colour in a graph with pencils
I payed for a dyno tune but i feel like i got a reflash, a dyno run and out the door. My 2.5 r51 pathfinder smokes heaps on high rpm. A good diesel tune should not smoke if done correct. Wish i had a tuner like you in my area.
98kw to 114kw, Max boost from 22psi to about 25psi. More fuel, Torque 400 to 500NM. Car feels heaps better but i dont like the extra soot.
Yes, that is not ideal. We have customers come to us from all over Aus. We have stores in Brisbane, Melbourne & on the Gold Coast!
I avoid these problems by buying Petrol vehicles.. you know the ones that worked fine for the most part for decades... Petrol will be back.
My brother is a 4wd guy , however I'm a jdm junkie last time I was there my car got tuned for 5 hours . Im pretty sure it's the same for every engine . Wow
I agree with what you're saying
BUT
If you develop one of those issues 100kms after you do the tune you're gonna be in the same situation.
Having a gauge to monitor EGTs is good on a stock engine but imo essential on a tuned one.
Tuning it with the issue, can esasperate the issue.
Modern cars are de-rated EVERYWHERE for hardware preservation, regardless of how good your tuner is they’re not gonna know the limit of your exhaust valve temperature or clutch pack 5 in the transmission without trial & error.
Also besides emissions modern cars are tuned to within an inch of their lives so any increase in torque or rpm is playing with fire.
1:53 old mate looks so nervous in front of a camera haha.
Any plans to do the Canning Stock once the traditional owners re-open the track following COVID?
All well and good saying that a dyno tune is great, but not everyone can afford a dyno tune, so obviously a “car park” tune is a bit more cost effective for some .
A car park tune is playing with fire.
i wish we had people like this where I live....
Where aboits are you mate?
@@UltimateDieselTuning ....wait for it.....Florida.
@@no_handle_required oh. Yeah that's no ideal for us lol
@@UltimateDieselTuning Nope. However, thanks for reaching out anyway, that's a sign you guys are legit. Other people should see this.
@@no_handle_required cheers mate!
I had one... Killed 2 injector pumps and a set of injectors. After spending a fair amount I put up for sale then the company called me and offered me peanuts for the car a day later.. Still have the car and its back to stock and working
Which company did the tune?
Page up!!!
I took my 80 series with a 1hz to auto care in Mtgambier to get a dyno an tune .. 5 months later they tell me my injectors fuel pump valves etc are fucked so I had to replace them 5 grand later an they put it on the dyno an blow my engine !!!!! NEVER GO TO AUTO CARE IN MTGAMBIER
damn that sucks. have to be careful with the 1HZ very good engine but they don't handle lots of fuel well easy to blow them up even if a bad tune doesn't blow it up it can shorten engine by a lot.
Greetings legends! From Seattle WA! Was wondering, where you route your rear diff hoses to? Thanks! Keep up the great adventures!
as in breather lines,,, we generally run them up the chasis into either the engine bay,, or plumbed into the airbox/snorkel usualy to keep them dry when doing river crossings and water
If you have a newish stock and well maintained car which to be fair is rare there is nothing wrong with a "car park tune" companies like apr or cobb spend years developing these tunes and they are very safe.
There are alot of dodgy dyno tuners too.
Only get your car tuned by someone reputable
Hey Chris, there is everything wrong with a carpark tune mate. Why would you want to put a tune file onto your brand new rig that you (say) tow a 3T van with a lot, when the file was done on a rig that has done 200,000klms & never tows?
@@UltimateDieselTuning read my post mate, you use the term "car park" tune for anything not done on a dyno. I said use a professional company like Apr or cobb which do amazing flash tunes tbat have had hundreds of thousands of test miles put on them in all conditions.
I could use the same argument why would i send my car to a guy with a dyno that has no idea what hes doing? Also you cant replicate 100s of thousands of miles of road testing on 2 hours of a dyno.
Seen the same horror stories from dyno tunes.
Also do you simulate towing a 3 tonne van in all weather conditions on the dyno? 45 degree day in darwin? I bet you dont test for different ambient temperatures
@@tersy9862 it is not tuned to suit YOUR engine mate!
@@UltimateDieselTuning as i said i my car is a brand new amarock with 3000kms on the clock then yes it is.
If im running a 1990 landcruiser with bigger injectors, bigger turbo, exhaust then no you have to go with a custom dyno tune obviously
@@tersy9862 you're missing the point. Give our guys a buzz tomorrow to chat about it all. Much easier than text 👍
Thanks for the info. I have a 2015 Territory diesel AWD (yes soft roader) with 130k on the clock. I got a quote from Ultimate Diesel for a custom dyno tune. $2495. My car park tune quote was $325. You just said it was only a few hundred difference. My comment is no reflection on the 4X4 247 show, just the way this segment has been both presented and portrayed.
Hi mate, we are nowhere near that price for a custom dyno tune. You must have been quoted for something else as well.
$325 for a carpark tune? I'll guarantee that it'll be absolute junk done by someone who has no idea what they are doing.
@@UltimateDieselTuning it was $2495 plus I wanted a cylinder head clean and catch can installed (I would provide the Provent 200) that was another $500. $2995 in total. I'm happy to hear an alternative...
@@MrBoostin31 yep, didnt take that either...
@@stevesbs8981 yep so you weren't quoted on a custom dyno tune only 👍
I love this channel
As long as the dyno tuner doesn´t have a fan big enough to simulate the windspeed in all speed ranges (even for a snorkel, if fitted ) it´s still a carpark tune!
$1000 for a car park tune! here in UK what you're calling a car park tune is about $300
Pound you mean. Well quik math, figure it out. Exchange rate
Yeow... love these videos... you boys are the bomb.
Head nodding shauno it his best 😂
Nah for real love the video fellas!
That green screen effect 😂😂
lol when?
@@ccleadge the whole video
@@toms_gupooe explain from @2.02 onwards then.
and @5.50 onwards or are those reflections in the headlight and front bumbper my imagination.
@@ccleadge Yep, green screen
Thanks for the tips
Oiye, from Canada. Love the content.
Cowboy tunes are the best tunes
Boost tee and turn up the fuel 👌🏼
there are good flash tunes.
Wish we had these options in the states.
You do!
@@29VK05 not anymore lol epa started raiding shops
Great vid, thanks for posting.
Can you guys suggest a good tuner in Adelaide?
Cheers
High Performance Diesel are great
Diesel wise st Agnes did a good job on my brother's MN triton. Knew what he was doing, better power/torque everywhere especially low rpm lethargy.
Doesn't rich diesel mix lower exhaust gas temps?
Nah mate only thing reducing egts is more cool air and less fuel
It certainly does in Gas engines. Rich equates to unburnt fuel which cools so it doesn't make a lot of sense.
@@crimson2822 flames burn faster and hotter in the presence of more oxygen. More air relative to fuel than usual, means more oxygen than usual. So the flame burns hotter and faster than it should and will raise the temperature of the combustion chamber.
@@MrPeterDWatson Yes that’s correct for petrol engines, however Diesel engines it works in the complete opposite way. Do a simple google search if you don’t believe me...
@@crimson2822 I stand corrected, however I was surprised just how "not" simple the Google search turned out to be. All good thanks.
MY BOYS n80 Makes 200rwhp 148kw with bigger stronger intercooler ,decat and tune 3" stainless in and out with hiflow airbox next is turbo upgrade and retune has stock turbo known to fail at 21psi
Yes, the factory turbos on those cannot handle much more boost than factory.
at the end of this type of Dyno tune is the vehicle still within the Australian Standards? is the U9 setting on a throttle controller also within the Std's still?
my thoughts the whole time. please dont say my cars as much of a shitbox as it is
2.2 defenders blow intercooler tanks also boys 👍
Easiest way to avoid it....LS baby!!
Sigh.
Superado woohoo!
Yep, diesels are garbage. Only good one is 1hdfte.
Oh boy .....
Most of the tuned diesels here in the states are garbage. Black smoke everywhere, big wheels with rubber band tires, enough lights so that the space station can see them and never venture off the asphalt. I refer to them as Honda civics on steroids.
Like my mums 2008 Nissan navara d40 a guy who had it before my mum was playing with the diesel stuff and mum put a new turbo in it and when it gets 2 2500rpm It just drops boost completely going up hills like it stalled but dumps out heaps of smoke
great advice, many thanks. I have a new D Max coming next month. Should i wait and see how it goes or make a pre-emptive strike and get done from the get go?
wait till warranty expires. have look at "auto expert" on new car warranties if modified.
Big tip: change the rear drive shaft at about 100K, if you have one. I have a 5 litre, twin turbo, V10 Touareg, 355 awHP and 960 Nm of tractive effort after a proper dyno. I have Hi/Lo and a centre knuckle. Dynos monster the drive chain - just watch the snap to max RPM and sudden taper.
Surprisingly, the Audi drive shafts are the largest for VW and Porsche.
I replaced the front drive shaft by 120K.
Dynos don't measure torque, they measure tractive effort at the wheels.. Torque is measured at the fly wheel/crank interface.
I'm an overlander with a 1725 Kg camper trailer. All is on song.
Do you mean driveTRAIN? The taper at higher RPM is simply the standard turbo running out of puff, dynos do not put extra pressure on drivetrains. Our dyno can & does measure torque in Newton Meters, at the wheels.
What a great video, but, you guys always only look at half of the picture. I have yet to see you guys talk about petrol motors. For all the hype and reccomdations for entry level 4wding recommending these on beers in the shed, have you thought about this as a topic or doing and episode on petrols and getting the most out of your standard motors and popular mods to popular 4wds used in the market today. I know there are a stack of companies that do things for petrols and would love to see some content on this. Why not put a poll on the socials and see what we, the 4wd community would like to see?
If they put your rig on a dyno a big problem would pop up immediately “You’ve got a petrol mate”...
Just curious what sort of warranty is offered on these tunes if your tuning a new or near new car? Or are you better to wait for the end of factory warranty period?
Hey Troy. A custom dyno tune won't void warranty mate. In the case of an engine issue, then the manufacturer must prove, with sufficient evidence, that the tune caused the issue. They cannot just void the warranty. Tuners should have their own warranty too, like we do. Please give us a call on 1800034373 for further information on this.
Someone I know had issues with their engine after a tune, he then got stuck in the blame game between the manufacturer and the tuner and never got his repair bill covered by either of them. Neither would put anything in writing either. He said he wouldn’t do it again.
@@djnmv we can see how that would happen. Generally speaking you need to go above the service advisors & service manager & get a case study done. That is when you'll find it'll fall in the customer's favour. If, of course, it wasn't the tuners fault. We have been through this, only a handful of times, & have always come out on top. We step in for the customer & get it done. For example, an injector failure is one of the most common issues woth common rail turbo diesel engines & that will happen with an untuned engine too. Every manufacturer has replaced thousands upon tens of thousands of engines due to failed injector/s, which is a component failure.
How about a couple of Ugga duggas on the cowboy tune?
Is there uch of a difference when tuning mechanical pumps on a dyno
There is. Is mainly controlling the electrical flow to the pump as that’s one of the only means of controlling it. It’s a bit more complex
I wonder if they grab their hearts and pass out when they see us americans spool a diesel over here in the US and it just rolls coal
i prefer to fill rolling coal exhaust's with 2 cans of expanding foam when i see them parked!!!! same with those pesky ricers too
Anywhere anyone would recommend in Newcastle area?
Are Both tunes on the same boost level ?
Yes
Lost me at 4.15 when you said you leaned it out and reduced the EGT's . Leaning usually raises the EGT I thought . At least it does in piston engine aircraft when you lean the mixture to peak EGT then run it rich of peak .
Diesel tuning is basically the opposite to petrol mate.
Opposite for diesel engines. Richer equals cooler.
So, what changes do you make to the OEM maps? What actual changes do you make ?
But at AUD$2700 that’s a heck of a lot of $$ just for a tune. I can’t justify that sort of dollars
Hi guys I've had a remap and dyno tune but since then I have put a delete muffler on would that effect the tune and should I put the vehicle back on the dyno
It should be ok mate
So if there’s the ‘free’ horsepower just sitting there why did the manufacturer not tune it this way? They aren’t going to make a car less powerful just to support the aftermarket industry. So what other aspects of the motor are compromised when you retune like this? Are your tunes tested to ensure they still meet emissions regulations? Or is that the next generations problem?
They do it to meet emissions, variances in batch processing engines, longevity for the warranty period and other manufacturers requirements.
Manufacturers tune their engines usually so they can warrant them. They want to be replacing as little components as possible, in turn spending less money in aftersales
support. Also, due to the massive variance in fuel quality, a baseline tune must be able to run the engine in safe parameters regardless of what batch of fuel is put in the vehicle. Again, want to spend less on fixing a customer's car do to uncontrollable circumstances, which is totally understandable. Another big thing is emissions. They must achieve below a certain threshold of pollution, and typically 'detuning' an engine means lesser output of power, and lesser output of co2 emission. Factory tunes are always worse than what an experienced aftermarket tuner can provide in terms of driveability, fuel economy, and reliability.
How about the ecu if you tunnung up turbo charge? And downpipe exhaust?
Yeah ok shaun just stick to off road yeah..
Bangin choons mate
Don't forget the very expensive High Pressure Fuel Pump. Ask me how I know.
Whay are the graphs still up and down in the custom tune in the same spot as the car park tune
Does the same apply for petrol engines
How do you go about tuning an old school turbo diesel with no computers, inter coolers etc? Like a GU TD42
I spoke to these guys a couple of weeks ago. Very helpful and took the time to discuss my problem, even though they were never going to work on my car. I have an '04 D22 Navara and they don't work on cars that old. They did put me onto another business who could help. Also a busy business, it's a 4 week wait just for diagnosis.
Anything for a 2016 Subaru Diesel?
I’m in SA and drive a 2000 3L patrol and keep getting told no one in SA dyno tunes them and that I have to send my computer outa state to be modded and have a tune uploaded onto it.... this always sounded similar to a car park tune to me and figured I’d just deal with limp mode and sitting behind slow drivers because I cannot over take them haha 😅
Yes that is the same as a car park tune Timmy. Find someone who will fit a Unichip to it & will custom dyno tune it from there.
Try MTQ, used them in Melboure on our old 3L Patrol in the past with great results. They should have a dyno over there too......
@@UltimateDieselTuning which is probably why they tell me my computer needs to be modded.... but every store that I have either called or spoke to online all said it needs to be sent outa state.... ECPT was the company most recommended to me.....
@@Viperflame08 you may have to travel interstate for this. We used to do them with Unichips - there is absolutely no need to send your factory ECU away at all. These days we only remap the common rail turbo diesel engine ECUs
@@UltimateDieselTuning thanks for the info. I’ll try an organise a trip to get it done when things calm down more.
Over a $1000 to tune a diesel wtf.
What do they honestly do for that money?
Just push buttons?
Does Ultimate Diesel Tuning have affiliated companies or recommended diesel tuning places in Sydney?
How much do they charge to do a tune i’m thinking about getting my d40 navara tuned
Where do I find an ultimate diesel tuner in Sydney? That you would recommend
Cheers mates
Any chance you have the dyno graphs of the boost pressure for both tunes on that colarado?
I got a stock non turbo SD25 diesel engine it done over 400,000 km and in doing a full engine rebuild kit to put in and thinking to get the head ported out to get more power can I do that ?
Is it possible to dyno tune old turbo diesel engines? With mechanical injection pumps?
It is, but we don't do that here at Ultimate Diesel Tuning
On a 97 tf 2800turbo diesel Holden rodeo what is the max boost the turbo can handle
We don't deal with those engines sorry mate
Mmm I got 151 kW at3600rpm 580 Newton metres of torque at the wheels with a 3 inch lift and 32s for my Colorado 2016 with 100000ks runs like a dream I will admit that I probably do need to get a trans cooler🔥🔥🔥 but the engine temperature never goes past quarter and even at 40 degrees I've never seen it get close to half way
That's great! All dynos read differently though, so what matters are the figures from before the tune, to the figures after the tune. Work that out in percentage & you have your real gains in power & torque achieved!
Id love to see the print out. And I'd love to know why the dyno it was on gave such inflated numbers... You're not making those figures sorry mate. I bet it drives a shit load better and am happy for you. And you wouldn't know anything about what the engines temps are like with the temp gauges put in modern cars. They do not represent what the engine temp is at in real time. They have stages, there could be a temperature variance of 30 degrees C before the needle even moves.
Just be careful if you only have the factory temp gauge as sometimes isn't always that accurate & you won't know till it's too late.
@@JSH083 thanks mate😃 but I do have a legend x big boy intercooler put in plus a straight 3 inch turbo back stainless Steel and 4 inch stainless steel snorkel and since then I noticed the temp drop drop down and the fan not turning on
@@UltimateDieselTuning 💯😃 mate I was also going to ask what did that Colorado have inside it I did do my homework and got the legend X big boy intercooler and I was lucky enough not to have a DPF filter in my car so I got a 3 inch from the turbo back which I know from you guys reduces the temperature by 70 degrees everything I've done to that car was all about reducing the heat 🔥💥❤️
Is there any good places for tuning on sunny coast ?
I have a 2012 Prado 150 3.0 Diesel with 115000km that is using way more fuel than it used to, when new, I used to see 9l/100km, now I am lucky to see 13l/100km. It probably did not help that the vehicle basically went nowhere in 2020 (I think that it was the same tank of fuel through the entire year). I am thinking a full soot clean, possibly injector clean and tune might be worthwhile. What do you reckon?
Yes absolutely mate. One of our on-car chemical soot cleans will do it wonders, plus a custom dyno tune by us to suit your engine/car & what you use your vehicle for! Expect awesome gains in power & torque, plus an improvement in fuel economy.
Smokey one on dyno looks like an older vehicle without a dpf, non smokey are all newer with dpf?
Correct
I hate to say it’s proven a tune to a prado with a 1kv-FTV engine. . Iit cracks pistons nearly guaranteed. Even with the injectors changes and regular service. Best to leave them alone. They are highly strung engines as it is
We have tuned hundreds of them with zero issues!
@@UltimateDieselTuning I’m confident you are correct. Not denying it. Just with the odds of a cracked piston with that engine I won’t take the risk. If I have a 200 series on the other hand I’ll come see you guys g
@@anthony.grisan mate a tune isn't BLACK AND WHITE. it isnt a case of "oh its tuned, therefore". If someone really wanted to, they could 'tune' a 1kd to be absolutely BULLETPROOF. But you'd get no grunt whatsoever. However, if you're so worried about cracking or melting pistons, then the tuner can provide you with the same power, tidy up the fuelling so it runs so much cooler and thus more reliably. As long as the tuner KNOWS what they are doing. Just like any tradesman. The better tradie, churns out the better finished product. Simple as that.
@@EnkeiTenjin I agree it’s not black and white. Yes a tube for reliability makes sense.
@@anthony.grisan the Prados are known for cracking pistons in standard form, with no mods. It's just the luck of the draw!
What are your opinions on the RC Colorados for tuning are they good for tuning? (4jj1)
Yes they are great engines
Can you do a dyno on a 80 series 1hdt???
yes Berrima diesel
I have a question my kun26r Hilux is at 260ks is that to many Ks for a tune as I like abit more power towing a horse float
Hi Matty. No, we tune cars with far more k's on the clock than yours. Just needs to have a pre-tune inspection carried out (as do all cars) & then if all is right, if you have no soot in the engine, then it'll be fine to tune. We'll just be more conservative with the tune, due to the higher k's on your engine.
Do you need to do oil changes more frequently after this? It the the auto gear box at risk from having more power? Or will the clutch pad last less?
No you don't. And no, no risk to an auto trans. Some manuals will need a clutch upgrade prior to tuning - like the 70 Series Cruisers, Hiluxes & Colorados.
@@UltimateDieselTuning usually, how much torque would yo put out on an isuzu dmax? generally speaking, i know each car will vary depending on how well it has been taken care of
Always thought lean = heat. Is it different for diesels?
Yep it's pretty much the opposite