About Those Babies in the Funeral Home Ceiling...
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2019
- Nobody puts baby in the ceiling.
CW: discussion about abuse of fetal/infant corpses
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**SELECTED ADDITIONAL READING/SOURCES**
"Inside an abandoned funeral home: A hidden compartment, a casket - and 11 dead infants"
www.washingtonpost.com/nation...
"Bodies of 11 Babies Found Hidden in Shuttered Detroit Funeral Home"
www.nytimes.com/2018/10/13/us...
"Past inspections failed to uncover Cantrell Funeral Home's secrets"
www.detroitnews.com/story/new...
"'Look above the door': Anonymous letter led Michigan officials to infant corpses
www.cbsnews.com/news/anonymou...
"LARA Shuts Down Cantrell Funeral Home in Detroit"
www.michigan.gov/lara/0,4601,...
me: wow I wish someone would upload something interesting.
Caitlin: baby’s in the ceiling
me: *o boi*
Caitlin is definitely a " hold my beer" in that way 🤣
mmm yes. This is just what I was needing.
That is one of those things that the phrase, "Be careful what you wish for!" was invented to cover...
Haha
(babies)
"You don't need school to know you're not supposed to hide infant corpses in the ceiling." Wiser words were never spoken.
"I'll take 'Things You Never Thought You Needed to Say' for 500, Alex"
@@asphodelale Underrated addition to this comment.
Yeah, that’s what crawl spaces are for.
Well where the hell else are we supposed to hide them?
Ryan Reed I already told you
The Scooby Gang was right, Humans are the only real Monsters.
Lyndsy Carson you listen to Im14 too?
And if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids, they’d have gotten away with it !
lol
Lyndsy Carson And zombies, apparently.
Ohhh chickidie
When I lost my daughter at 23 weeks gestation, the first funeral home I contacted was pushy and aggressive about getting a plot. They had already picked up her body at that point.
I contacted a different funeral home and from the get go only focused on what I wanted. They asked about a plot, but didn’t push it any further when I said I only wanted a cremation. They then waived the fee bc a stillbirth, born sleeping baby, is a nightmare. He sat and talked me through some of the worst emotions I could have ever imagined. I will forever be grateful for the funeral home that finally handled her remains and I’m so grateful for speaking up and standing up for my rights.
I am glad you had that strength.
Amber Townsend thank you for sharing your story with us.
So sorry for what you went through
Amber Townsend I'm so sorry that you had to go through that. I hope you're okay, emotionally, now
When I lost my daughter at 23 weeks gestation I was 5 hours away from my hometown (I was in Toronto, Canada) and because my daughter lived for 20 minutes, I didnt "qualify" for a lower price for cremation. Being as I'm on disability (and 5 hours away from home) it had potential to be a big problem. The funeral home I went to was amazing. They didn't upsell anything at all. They asked what I wanted, asked my financial situation and took care of everything. I didnt have to pay a cent and I was able to bring my daughter home. Thank you Humphrey Funeral Home. Much respect.
I thank God for the generous man that took care of my son after he died from SIDS. I was a low-income mother a single mother. He was survived by his twin brother. Of 7 weeks. The funeral directors understood how limited my income was. They said that they prayed about it I came to them one day with the payment that they told me that it was going to cost cremate my 7 week old son. They handed me my son cremated of course and told me to spend the money for his brother on his Christmas only two weeks away. That man saved my Christmas and he saved my soul
This is how things should be done.
There is a special place in heave for loving souls like that. What a kind gesture.❤
It's nice to hear stories like this, it shows that not all funeral directors are heartless vultures preying on the families grief to get more money out of them.
@@NFAslan Many funeral homes will take care of the arrangements for an infant free of charge, I worked for a family that owned 2 funeral homes, I worked at one for 10 years and the other for 15 years, they were good caring people, and they understood the loss of a child especially an infant was devasting and they did their best to ease the burden of the cost.
A true blessing to read about people in business who not only pray over business decisions, but listen to God's promoting. Thankful they were there for you at such a horrible time.
There's a Google review of the place from a year ago complaining about the smell...
nOPE
Yikes O.O
Oh god...
I gasped-
Realities greatest foreshadowing
You should make a video on the bodies of Chernobyl or on the handling of radioactive bodies
I bet THOSE could not be HIDDEN in a ceiling....
@@Allan_aka_RocKITEman naw, just under 15 feet of concrete and "lost" records
yes yes yes radioactive bodies
YESS
YESS
When I gave birth to my stillborn daughter at 6 months along at Vanderbelt University hospital in Nashville Tenn they cremated her for me , this was in 2002 , at no charge and they did a amazing job during the labor and afterwards allowing me to grieve hold and have my family spend time with her before taking her away for final arrangements. They had a charity in place for just my situation and they hold a memorial every year as well.
a memorial every year?
@@wolfafterdark she probably meant a memorial for all stillbirths at that hospital....
If you work in a funeral home and you die does your family get a discount?
Kori Hoornstra wait yeah this is a good question
Yes we do
I need to know now.
I used to work at a cemetery and we were offered a 25% employee discount off spaces.
Weird question.
Recently a coworker was dealing with the sudden and violent death of a family member. If I hadn’t of started watching your videos a year ago, and more recently started reading ‘From Here to Eternity’, I would never have had the awareness or confidence to speak with her about the death. I would have been so much more awkward and more specifically I wouldn’t have had any of the answers to the questions she was asking, like: “doesn’t the funeral home take the body right away? The funeral should be in about a week right? Does she have to be cremated? What does embalming do?” Just being able to give her answers to these types of questions without being “creeped out” by talking about death was such a comfort to her and multiple times she told me “I needed to hear that”
Thank you Caitlin!!
Adilade Jones that is so awesome that you were able to help your friend like that. I know that I felt very awkward when my friend's husband died some time ago. I didn't have any answers and I told her that. I just made sure to be there for her whenever she needed anything.
@@arianedennison2395
Yeah it really helps to have someone who can be supportive. Knowledge of the industry can be helpful, but just being available as an extra set of eyes and ears to help clarify options can be fairly crucial to the decision making process. Both of you are to be commended for helping your friends like you did. That's just beautiful beyond words.
Wow this is beautiful
Thankfully I was raised around death from a young age, so discussing death and funnerals never bothered me, nor planning such events. It took AGES to convince family member to tell me of their plans (but most of them got what they wanted, if just the key points, for example, grandma didn't have a funneral so she didn't get the three songs requested, but she IS buried next to the husband she loved the most in California, Mom is creamated and Dad..well dad got nothing he wanted because we couldn't afford it, we donated him to SCIENCE! So yeah, sucks to be him, but we did what we could and he's dead anyway so it didn't matter. I THINK my sister got the ashes back by now...it's been five years).
I've made it easy. I told my sister to either donate my body or dump it somewhere interesting...or make a giant meat puppet...just don't do anything expensive or religious and I'm good. And if there IS an afterlife and she DOES make a meat puppet...I'm totally haunted it.
Adilade Jones why the hell would she ask you 🤔 lol
In France we complain about the endless rules and laws and controls regarding the industry, but honestly now I'm glad we have them.
We have endless rules and laws, as well....but some choose not to follow them. Smh 😢 🇺🇸
It's Detroit, Michigan. You don't get to be synonymous with crime and low quality of living by a culture of rigid adherence to rules and regulations.
“Unknown fluids” found on the faces on bodies stored in the garage.... anyone a little worried for the same reason?
Abi Colleen NOT UNTIL RIGHT NOW😂
AAAHHH
Worried about that alone? I’m worried about all of this! Oh man... so disturbing and sad.
OH GOD, I DIDN'T EVEN THINKED OF THAT UNTIL NOW. JESUS CHRIST.
Here. I immediately started to find a comment to prove that it's not just me. I just hope that it's really not what we think it is
This makes me EXTREMELY uncomfortable because I used to work as a florist and did funeral arrangements for Cantrell! So, thanks for that
I am sorry to say this, but the flowers you delivered there are probably all wilted in the ceiling.
Awww Honey there was no way you could ever know.
Is Cantrell still up and running? Or has the business been shut down? Creepy that you delivered flowers there! Cheers!
@@blowitoutyourcunt7675 No which is the whole point they were already Closed when they got this call
Wow
Team: How strange & peculiar do you want this video ?
Caitlin: Yes
I remember at the funeral home I was hanging around had the cremated remains of a man named Henry. None of his family ever picked him up. The interns would have poker games and allowed Henry to ‘sit in’. He often won as well.
That's hilarious and kind of touching
Imagine finding out your child was never returned. That's a moment your trust in the world is greatly damaged. I can't imagine.
Right!! That's crazy making. I hope all the bodies made it back to their loved ones.
That's likely not the scenario. It was most likely stillborn babies and the parents just said cremate them and didn't care about the ashes, so the owner would save some dough by never taking them to a crematory. As disturbing as the owner is I think there's a bit of a non-importance placed on stillborn babies in some cultures, so parents just sign to let the hospital dispose of it.
@@perladelao I think they didn't pay the bill. That's what I think. And a funeral home can't run when people don't pay their part.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 the funeral home doesn't like to keep ashes. They prefer them to be picked up relatively fast. I worked as a secretary at a funeral home and it we couldn't hold on to cremated remains for non payment. All the ashes that had been stored away has been there for years. It was a shocker to me that relatives didn't want them but I learned super fast many people ( certain cultures in particular) which I won't name tended to go with whatever was cheapest. I know that's what some people want so I'm not counting grown adults. However many hospitals will cremate ashes for free for a stillborn babe. They have contracts with funeral homes, however if the funeral home is down on cash, mismanaged, or just flat out lazy they can cut corner and just " store" the stillborns. Since the parents agreed to let the hospital dispose if the babies then they would never know what happened to the ashes.
@@perladelao You sound really judgmental.
I love the rodeo metaphor: "The babies were not Cantrell's first ride at the unethical rodeo".
I almost expected to hear *Bonng!* just before the Undertaker shows up. (That's not a bad pun, it's a WWE reference.) 😀
What metaphor? 🤔
@@sweetox_9690 I would consider the phrase "unethical rodeo" a metaphor since it is symbolic phrase that is not literally applicable to the object.
I want "Unethical Rodeo" on a T shirt
@@diablalyssa Yes! Lol
They made my grandma look like a different person. We wiped off the makeup and did it ourselves..my aunts coffin was leaking at the funeral. They were family friends. Horrible😪😡
Gosh that's terrible 😥
Sorry you had to experience that :(
My best friend looked like someone else, I knew I didn't want them doing my funeral. I got a bad feeling about them before hearing other horrible stories. Then this SMDH FR
I’m so sorry
Omg 😳 so sorry
On of my dad's closest friends is a mortician and owns a funeral home. He understands that funerals can be the most difficult times for a family. He has met with people on Sundays and Christmas morning to help plan their loved one's funeral. He has even not charged families or returned payments to those that he knew could not afford even a simple funeral. He and his team take care of the whole family.
Your post restores some hope in humanity, which here and now in May of 2020, is dropping lower than a frozen thermometer at the Dead Sea.
MasterOf4Elements he sounds like a very kind and compassionate man! Thank You for sharing this!
This is the kind of mortician/funeral director I want to be
Admirable! Really. And there is something to be said for “regular” funerals to have a price added - just e few percent - so other who cannot pay can get some help to get a decent goodbye to their loved ones. - Funeral homes in Denmark where i lived are different - very - than the US funeral homes. (You also get a small contribution from the municipal you live in, to help with costs, but it is very expensive as it is, so that is a very small portion but everything helps) - i had to use a funeral agency i think is a better name for what we have here, for my father who killed himself, and took us to hell and back during this process, because we tried to stop him to no avail, but the funeral director was so kind and helpfull. Even though i wanted some things that were a bit unusal partly because of the situation. But he listened and did it eventhough i could see he was not all that thrilled. He respected me and helped me.
Good man.
Imagine you’re taking a test in mortuary school and one of the questions says “You’re hired as a mortician at a new funeral home, what is the legal limit of infant corpses allowed in the ceiling rafters?”
I'M DEAD
"Nobody puts baby in the ceiling."
Can’t unhear that ^^^
Omg.....that was hilarious! If I could like ur comment a thousand times, I would!
Or in the corner.
Hahahah
Caitlyn- today I was on a hike with my friends and asked them all how they want to be treated after death. They all said cremation (no embalming) and I explained I wanted a natural burial- just shroud. They didn’t realize this was even a possibility and were genuinely excited by the idea. Thanks for everything you do- death positivity is environmentally friendly AND friendly on the wallet :)
When I’m asked what I want done with my body after I die my response is “Not my problem”.
Nothing I do will ever be as perfect as Caitlin's bangs.
She has GREAT hair.
Checking in three years later: her hair is, as of late, still gorgeous.
Seriously, how does she get so much volume?
I did taxidermy for 5 years. The inspection procedure is brutal. It is amazing we are more concerned over dead animals than humans ! Great videos. Love your channel !
I didn't know there even was an inspection procedure to do taxidermy. That's interesting, tell me more!
I would like to hear more too
I'm really digging the Sherlock Holmes get up. Since you're a mortician can I call you Sherlock bones. 😂
P.s. I know that was corny but I'm not sorry!
"Sherlock Bones". Missed opportunity!
@@AskAMortician Not missed if you use it in part two!
It’s not corny I like that Sherlock bones
Cemetery my dear Watson. 🕵🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Mentioned that one on the announcement! Definitely use it! It fits soo much!
“Babies in the Ceiling” sounds like an unreleased Misfits song.
Or Lionel Richie. "Oh, what a feeling, dead babies in the ceiling..."
Or the jim carroll band
Nope: Nekromantix
More like an episode of Supernatural
I was thinking more Cancerslug
Director: “I had no idea how this happened”
Me:....so how many bodies you misplacing a year my guy?
Personally, I prefer not to store my dead infants in the ceiling.
jokes aside. I thought you were going to talk about ceiling murals. Boy was I mistaken.
MiotaLee I thought the same thing. Whoa momma was I wrong! So sad
I had the same thought, that or carved cherubs, or ghostly apparitions.
Mhm
I thought that as well, I was imagining something closer to carved marble effigies, or even the chapel with the arranged bones, not this... Boy was I wrong O_O
I thought it would be about baby doll heads on the ceiling as a creepy aesthetic or something,, BOI WAS I WRONG
how desensitized to you have to be to be ok with babies in the ceiling. thats almost creepier than coffin births...
Ya....but coffin birth is a natural thing you can.t help. This is just unacceptable and gruesome.
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I just googled “coffin birth”. I didn’t know that was a thing.
@@sunriseeyes0 Yep. She even has a video on it I believe.
These funeral owners were sociopaths and greedy bastards. They were pimples in their own community.
i do not feel Caitlin is desensitized at all, she is educating us on what actually can go on, did you miss her saying she believes in MORE inspections?
A funeral home in my town doesnt charge for a child's funeral. People are so grateful
Bless these kind compassionate people. #respect 💙🐱✌🏻.
I really feel like this is the adult equivalent of a kids tv show talking difficult topics with funny costumes and humour so you don't have do fear them anymore, so good
There is a convenience store in my town that used to be a funeral home back in the late 1800s/early 1900s. When the undertaker died, several bodies were found in the attic.
zombieissues wait... what?!
@@caribeandiva yea, the guy had stored about 6-8 bodies in the attic and they were found when the undertaker died.
That’s crazy!!! My family always used the same funeral home for years when there was a funeral. Well it’s now a Chinese restaurant lol! Even that would creep me out!
@@xAllieBoykin923x it's always unsettling if you're aware that it was a funeral home before any current business
I used to LIVE in what was a late 1800's/early 1900's funeral home. I've often wondered if any unscrupulous undertaker activity happened there. I'm sure nothing did, but it was a giant Victorian house. It just reeked of spookiness. 😂
It frustrates me seeing this story anywhere 😣 It brings back the horrible memory of finding out my daddy’s body was being held in a goddamn garage 😕 being lied to and deceived about something like that hurts alot ....I hope that man is going through hell literally 👿😪
That's awful. I'm so sorry that happened to you and your family. :(
Was your dad's body one of the victims in the Cantrell case?
Queen Pink : so sad !!!!!! Oh ! That makes me mad !!!
Opalescent Waters Yes
Queen. Pinkk I’m pretty sure there’s a special place in hell for these assholes.
This funeral home has since been shut down, but members of this family have opened another home. 🤔
How could they Ever!?
Wonder if there’s babies in this one too.
Oh hell NO! They shouldn't allow any people from this family to work with any bodies alive or dead! That's just sad! Michigan/Detroit is fucking up!
Actually, this was another Cantrell family member who's business is being harmed by being a member of the family. She's on the up and up.
eh, why not
Michigan Department of Licensing: "Aw, shit; Here we go again."
That’s what everyone around here thinks when it comes to Detroit...
Stuff you never think about. Interesting. She really does some of the most thought inducing videos. *as a loss mom I super appreciated the warning in the beginning.*
Me too. Thanks.
Sorry for your loss 💔
My daughter Emma would be 20yrs old now, but stuff like this still makes my throat get tight. I, too, appreciate the warning - it would have sucked to not be prepared. 💔
So often the loss of children and babies is not discussed let alone the grief of it acknowledged. I love that it's a topic that she doesn't shy away from including messed up situations like in this video. Most of the time I think loss mom's just need a quick warning before hand and that's it. But, if your in the first few years after a loss it might lead to a horrible mental spiral to have the subject tactlessly brought up. The warning kind of made me feel *seen*, if that makes any sense.
bloom will I’m sorry for your loss 💜
I just started reading Smoke Gets In Your Eyes. It is written so well, and I love the way you wrote it so much like the way you talk. Sometimes I swear I can hear you reading it in my head.
It's so good! I finished it quickly and then immediately bought her next book on my kindle and binge read it too hahaha
How long have you been hearing these voices? :D
I knoe right! I had to walk an extra mile to get her book since it's not sold in my country, but oh boy it's one of the best book purchase ever to me.
@@quadreye What country? You must live on a border area.😋😏😁✌🏼
I loved both of her books! Amazingly, they have them at my library. Usually it takes ages for them to get new books in.
When my father passed away, my mother didn't have enough to pay for the funeral in full and so she paid half, agreeing to work with the funeral home and make payments later. Things were very very hard after that since my father earned the majority of our income and repaying the funeral home was not easy. A couple months after that, my grandmother passed away (my mother's mother) and had a funeral in the same funeral home. It wasn't long after that that the funeral home waived what my mother owed to them. It was an incredibly kind gesture.
Note to self: Do not eat while watching ask a mortician.
I can usually eat while talking or watching about gross things but the visual with this one almost made me gag. That being said, as usual, you educated and made it interesting.
God. They were accumulating cadavers like they were forms someone hadn't gotten around to filling out.
I live in Detroit and this story shocked and saddened me for so many reasons. What's worse is that right after this, another funeral home here was busted for having lots of unclaimed babies too. They were supposedly working with Wayne State University's mortuary school. I love Wayne State and was thinking about applying there to finish my mortuary science studies, but now I'm very torn about that.
Anyway, what really saddens me is that so many babies are going unclaimed. My husband and I have lost 3 babies to miscarriage and 2 to stillbirth. I can never imagine just leaving those babies behind in the hospital like medical waste. These are innocent babies, not tumors or amputated limbs! I understand that funerals are expensive, but that doesn't mean that parents should just leave their deceased children behind like a bad memory. When we had our first stillborn son, we didn't have a pot to piss in. Since he was born at the University of Michigan's hospital, we donated his body to their medical school. They cremated his remains for free and returned them to us a few months later. Our second stillborn son was given a free cremation and funeral by local funeral home. It's a small, family-owned funeral home that sets aside a fund for Detroit area families experiencing miscarriage, stillbirth, or infant death. They will cover all of the costs for a funeral, cremation or embalming, and a burial plot. The only costs for the family are for any kind of fancy urn or headstone. They will help the family get discounts and the lowest price possible on those things. We are better off financially now, but the loss happened in early December, and funeral costs would have cleaned our savings out and left our one living child with no presents under the Christmas tree.
My point with this story is that hospitals, funeral homes, and support services need to communicate much more with each other so that grieving families aren't left in the dark when their sorrow and pain are so fresh. Pregnancy loss is already still such a taboo topic. Grieving parents feel so isolated, and having no one to help with the care and disposition of the baby is like pouring pounds of salt into the wounds.
Henry Ford Hospital gave us a list of funeral homes in the area, and directed us to the one that did the free funeral services. They helped us so that we had our son's pickup arrangements made before I had even received my discharge papers. It made things so much easier, so that upon discharge, we could just go home and be at peace/try to get back to our usual routine... because the world doesn't care that you just lost your baby.
😢 My girlfriend and I had an early term miscarriage many years ago and they didn't even give us the option of keeping the body, straight into the hospital incinerator... Not everyone chooses not to claim the remains, sometimes we are told that we're not allowed to... 😢 Still, I am glad that someone helped you in your situation. 🤗
@@AlexanderRJaruk Are you in the United States? If so, you and your girlfriend's rights were most likely violated. From what I know, the parents always have the right to choose the disposition of a baby's remains. It doesn't matter if the baby was only at 8 weeks gestation or full term when he or she passed away.
It's absolutely terrible what happened to you and your girlfriend. I'm so very sorry for your loss. Unfortunately, a lot of hospitals treat their patients like garbage and will completely ignore the rights of the patient's or patient's loved ones unless someone speaks up or gets an attorney. Even with things like the Patient's Bill Of Rights, hospital staff still occasionally do ignore those rights. It's just one more reason why we need community advocacy. We need to banish the stigma of miscarriage, stillbirth, and infant loss and come together to support grieving parents/families as much as possible. It's the only way to stop these horrific practices, like what happened in the video, from continuing to occur.
I can only speak for the state of Michigan, but LARA is way overworked and understaffed. In a more ideal situation, Michigan would have a board just for inspecting and regulating the local funeral industry. That's never going to happen, so it is up to the community to stop further tragedies like this from happening.
Rikki Spanish so sorry for your loss. I was fortunate enough to have a local funeral home offer their services free of charge when my son passed away 3 days after he was born. It’s just a traumatizing time I can’t even image going through the process of finding a location and worrying about how to afford it. I wish the US offered free services for all baby/children’s after life expenses. I hope you are well
@Rikki Spanish : You live in Detroit and this _surprises_ you?? Detroit proper or a suburb of Detroit?
Because this is on par for the looney stuff that happens in Detroit.
I couldn’t imagine losing a child. I couldn’t imagine even more not being able to respectfully hold a funeral for a child.
Caitlin!!!!!!! Are funeral homes required to have generators in case electricity is out for extended period? If not what would be done with corpses that need to be kept cold?
andrew woltmann Very good question. I hope she gets back to you.
A quick google search seems to suggest that no, it's not required. In case of temporary outage, I'm guessing that the refrigerators have pretty good insulation and can keep an acceptably low temperature for hours or days? But yeah if it's like a bigger problem like a storm or sth the outage could last long than that. I did read an article that recommends every funeral home to get a backup generator, but yeah doesn't seem like a regulated thing, although every state is different so you can try to look it up for all of them.
andrew woltmann not the one in my area of Michigan does- you can hear backup generators and I've never heard one running. Generally though we loose power in the winter and really, if it's 10 degrees with a windchill of -20 keeping bodies cold isn't going to be an issue.
Makes me wonder what happened when the mortuaries lost power during hurricane Katrina.
I would expect that if the power were out for too long, bodies would be transported to other funeral homes close by that still had power- as long as it was safe enough to transport corpses
Husband : what you watching
Me : Babies in the ceiling
A High School Classmate of mine left her job teaching and got licensed and certified as a Funeral Home Owner/ Operator in a small town in NC. She did because she felt the local, been there for years Funeral Home was ripping people off, over charging and was no longer "Connected" to the Community it served. It was a turning point for her and her family when they had some very unfair charges leveled in the Funeral Expenses in a child's embalming and burial. Both are still in business, except my friend has a lot of business due to their fair pricing and extreme honesty in all dealings. Thanks for this Catlin! As always, very enjoyable.
belizeguy which one? I live in a small town in NC, and if it’s one near me- I don’t want to go there or support it, you know?
@@Jogjosmowwdkfs Western NC? Sylva, but, I looked and found out the Old Guys are out of business permanently. Appalachian Funeral home is alive and well and expanding!
Good for her!
@@Jogjosmowwdkfs >>> I had the same question, but I am in northeastern NC.
NW NC here, not familiar with Sylva though
"Nobody puts baby in the ceiling" omg classic I love this channel officially a deathling subscribed
The mortuary that handled arrangements for my stillborn son was beyond kind. We went to them again when my father passed 8 years later and were again treated beautifully. Some funeral homes have wonderful empathy.
The funeral home I used for my father does not charge to bury children.
BTW it's Falvo Funeral Home in Rochester NY.
Several dont, or do significantly low cost.
@@christiamark9184 they certainly don't need the money if they are second generation family funeral homes. The infrastructure is paid.
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I live in rochester ny
Bored at work with nothing to do.
DEAD BABIES IN THE CEILING.
Well what do you know it's time to take lunch and watch this.
This put a lump in my throat. My infant daughter passed away, and one of my biggest fears is that her ashes (which I want buried with me when I have my natural burial) is not really her ashes. Thankfully I have to remind myself that the funeral home I chose is wonderful and we became friends with them! 😔 Those poor families.
"to know that your not supposed to hide infant corpses in the ceiling"
Well there go my plans for the weekend
Me: *reads title* Those WHATS in the WHAT?!
while watching this my husband snuck up behind me and put his hand on my face... needless to say I almost lost it
How many sutures DID he need and when WILL he be out of traction? 🤣
"Nobody puts baby in the ceiling." That's it - I'm now dead. DEAD, I tells ya!
I agree with random inspection being more common when it comes to licensing. I have no experience in the funeral industry, but I work with animals and live in a state that requires a lot of licenseing to own native species (which I need for educational purposes), so ive seen first hand how easy it is to get away with doing whatever you want once you have the license. I'm in a Facebook group with other animal educators, and ive seen posts of people thanking each other for helping them "get ready" for their yearly inspection. You should not need a group of people to come to your house and take a whole day in order for you to pass an inspection, you should have the conditions in line with what is required ALL THE TIME. It pisses me off, because I know that means the animals arent being taken care of properly if they need that much help to make their conditions passable when they know an inspection is coming.
Completely agree about apprenticeship, and not just in the funeral home industry. With rising costs of education, it’s eliminating the ability of lower income classes from obtaining better jobs.
Love this channel.
One question: How many runs does a funeral home get before it’s shut down? Geeeeez
Simon Jenner I'd love to know
4:20 she said the funeral home was shut down in 2016 for the improper storage of corpses, but the "babies in the ceiling" thing had been happening long before even that, so both incidences were exacerbated by lack of quality inspections.
More than you’d like to know - someone who spent years in a funeral home
I lost 2 Daughter's to stillbirth. My first born in 2002 at 23 weeks from a constricted umbilical cord. The hospital cremated her for me.
They also held ceremonies for all the babies lost that year and planted a tree in her name.
My youngest I lost at 39.5 weeks during Labor in 2018 from a placenta arruption due to preeclampsia and Hellp syndrome. The hospital set me up with a Funeral home that provided services cheap to Families. They experienced a loss before and it was their way of helping families in similar situations. I am so grateful for them. I paid $300 for services and Burial. It would be devastating to get a call my Daughter's were left to rot in a attic without my knowledge. It's already hard living with the fact you had to say Goodbye to your Baby, before you even said Hello and the feeling of not being able to protect them, as a Mother. To have this done is just horrific.
I am glad they are out of Business.
I wouldn't want any favors from Mr. Cantreal like he states, they were.
I pray the families find peace. It's got to take some toll knowing this. I can't even imagine.
It was so sad when that happened. If I remember correctly they also found remains somewhere else connected to the funeral home. How anyone could do anything like that is beyond imagination.
That funeral home had been fined many times back in the late 70's and 80's when I still lived outside Detroit and worked in the city. It is so sad that this happened makes me sick to tell the truth... The town I live in now in N. Michigan our local funeral director is sooooo wonderful! He refuses to charge for a funeral the service and burial/cremation for infants and toddlers under the age of 2!! He and his wife are such wonderful people and I am grateful for them in this town...!:) ☮🐱
My son was a day old when he passed away, although I knew he had a problem I had to give him a chance as he would of had operations to help him if he survived 24 hours he developed pneumonia which didn't help, he was born quite a long way from home as needed a specialist hospital the undertaker was a great help as he collected him and brought him home, the nurses wrapped him in a blanket and put a suit on him so he wouldn't be cold, that was what I wanted, I think I only had to pay fuel cost and headstone to put on the grave he would have been 22 this year so things might have changed since then.
Bless you, dear one. This must have been beyond courageous.
I'm so sorry
This reminds me of the Kermit Gosnell scandal, he was reported by patients, coworkers and other abortion clinics - for three decades complaints about his illegal Clinic stacked up at the health department with no inspections of his practice or premises. He was only caught because he was running a pill Mill through the clinic on the side and was busted for writing too many opiate Rx - not illegal, unsanitary, untrained abortions.
*sigh* Some industries really do need common sense regulations and THOROUGH, TIMELY INSPECTIONS.
Yeah, I'm afraid someone is going to come see this comment and say something about abortions and start a fight, when really, you're just talking about a case of disgusting, purposeful malpractice.
@@meowwaffles6040 both are equally disgusting. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@mightyblue3426 Nope, we are not discussing this, go away.
Dear Caitlin and viewers, I am going through a bad depression because of unemployment and apparent ending of a long relationship. Watching these videos for some reason is helping me feel very positively distracted and helps me not to think of those problems for a moment. Thank you.
I am speechless....my heart is breaking for every family that has dealt with this monster of a funeral home. Thank you for helping us to be wiser consumers.
😬 why did detroit let this funeral home continue after the first /couple/ of issues smh
Likely because those were just fined offenses and they paid up?
Because it's Detroit.
The Phantom Safety Pin ah you beat me to it. 😂
Because it’s Detroit and no one cares about anything there, I should know I live near Detroit.
@@sheagoff6009 statements like this only perpetuate the negative stigma associated with the city. Please stop
Plus 3:07 onward
Good on ya for working with low income families. Just because they’re low income does NOT mean they DON’T love a family member any less. Hell, they may be “low income” because they spent so much on medicalisation they simply could not afford the step that comes after that final millisecond they have to decide if the cessation of life support/therapy/etc etc....
Of course, but it's a business not a public service. No one is doubting how much they love their family member.
@@We_Are_All_Vultures Sure, but by virtue of the business' nature alone, they should be flexible. It's impossible to avoid death, and funeral homes knows this, and if you don't care too much about ethics, they'll easily exploit death, which obvs should never happen.
I understand at regardless of what kind of private business it is, they need to make money. Sure. Still, you shouldn't have to have tons of money for your dead body to recieve at least basic proper care. There's a fine balance here.
“Then it got worse...”
Caitlyn, you’re my #1 favorite role model, YouTubing mortician trailblazer!
You’re the only one able to make death-videos funny-charming-tastefully done and informative.
Thanks for the fun👻!
Conversation starter (or possibly ender) #32: "So, how about those babies in the funeral home ceiling?"
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I'm eating pizza when suddenly
🤢"UNKNOWN FLUIDS"🤢
Girl, you should know better than to eat during a Caitlyn vid!
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ON THE FACE
Becca B “Get the door, it’s Dominoes “
I was eating raviolis
It's just so gruesome 😢 In our city is a service that cremates fetuses if they don't have a certain weight to be buried by their family and it's free. There is a beautiful heartshaped headstone with a wonderful quote engraved in it for all those poor little beings that never had a chance to see this world. I lost my first child very early into pregnancy but loved it so very much and was glad that someone takes care.
I don't know WHY I'm always eating while watching your videos, but this is stomach churning and so horrifying. 🥺🤢
The dislike is from Cantrell.
Also, what sort of heart does it take to hold a corpse hostage because the family is poor? If services had already been rendered, send them to collections like normal humans
In England the government pays for the funerals of Children under 15. Nobody should have the additional stress of finding the money for a child's funeral.
I love you so much, Caitlin! Thank you for helping everyone understand their rights when it comes to death! I've had this conversation with my family many times all thanks to you! I'm 24 and made my advanced directive. 💕
“Brought to you by death enthusiast like you” big PBS vibes haha
“When they came to search the funeral home . . . In the dark”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAhhh . . .
NOPE! I- NO THANK YOU. I WILL NOT BE COMING FACE-TO-FACE WITH AN UNEXPECTED, POSSIBLY DECOMPOSING CORPSE IN THE DARK OF A FUNERAL HOME, THANKS!
THE CALL TO SEARCH FOR SUCH THINGS IS A SIGN TO TAKE A VACATION.
I absolutely love your videos. They are so important. I hate the way our culture treats the subject of death and dead bodies and I want it to change. You helped me change the way I see death! For that I am *eternally" grateful.
Caitlin, The fact you can turn something to most people scary and horrifying, you make light out of it the situation but in a good way and also educate. Just wanted to say thank you and I appreciate you. I'm pretty sure I can die without worrying after years of Ask A Mortician and also your books.
Much love from UK 🖤
And she's still respectful of the real victims
Lol, that magnifying glass is her favorite prop
I'm a retired court reporter, and years ago I took a meeting of our state's the thanato practice board. I don't remember anything about it and they didn't order a transcript, but what I do remember is that they were the most pleasant people I ever worked for. Great senses of humor. Fantastic group of people. Just like you.
And thank you for informing the public about human composting. That's what I'm planning on. I'm 70, and hopefully by the time I pass, it will be legal in all states. It's good for the environment.
I swear, I'm saving money for my own cremation and have already told my family if anything should happen to me just to have a family get together/dinner in remembrance of me. This channel has seriously solidified that decision for me!
Also, in relation to the video...what happens when people seriously don't pay? I assume there is some sort of process set in place for that situation. It obviously can't be left as a burden to the funeral home to pay for a burial...so say the family has literally nothing to pay...what happens to the body? (assuming most places don't hide them in the attic 😑)
I'm no expert, so take this with a small mine of salt, but most cities have a kind of mass grave called the "Potter's Field" where all the completely indigent people wind up.
Ethical funeral businesses will have the funeral, and if the bill is not paid, it will be turned over for collection. Sometimes, as in any business, proprietors simply have to bit the bullet and declare it as a loss on their taxes.
Depends when in the process it is known that the bill won't be paid. Buried already? Then collections, because family signed contract to pay. If at time of death can't pay, each county (usa) has a procedure to be interred in the potters field, or papers section of an appointed cemetary. Some counties now cremate since burial space is less. This was why simple life insurance plans were created. For pennies a month parents could insure each child in case they died, paying entire funeral. Nice parents converted the policy at adulthood to education funds, or a wedding gift.
@@549BR You're no longer allowed to deduct unrecoverable business losses by the Feds, but some states may still allow it.
Here in SC the Funeral Homes first step is to ensure the deceased's survivors can pay for their services and if they can't the State takes over. There's a "Pauper's Field" in the state Capitol but when it's filled they switch to cremations. And then SC will spare no effort in hunting down the nearest living relative and hand them the bill for it all. And by law you must pay- the only way out of that is if you can prove there is a closer relative still alive. More than a few people here have been surprised with bills for burying someone they and their extended families never knew or had heard of.
I did a presentation on this for school I'm pretty sure I traumatized my class
Good job! 🙌
Your class needed some traumatiz'n.
Omg you're my hero
I’m kinda impressed and horrified and entertained.
That... is awesome!!!!!
My newborn died in 2011 and the funeral home charged me nothing. I’m so thankful
So I went and looked at the google reviews for Cantrell and I think the creepiest thing wasn’t the fact that people were talking about the babies, but the fact that there was people who genuinely liked Cantrell. It gave me the shivers seeing all of these positive reviews about a place that hid babies in the ceiling.
Wait- are there countries where funerals won't also make you go into debt?
Yes England... See my comment above xxx
Here in England, you can pay off the funerals over a period of time with a payment plan that suits you - but you do have to pay a deposit. I did work experience in a funeral home that if you paid the funeral off before the service took place then you'd save 5 or 10%. We also have Golden Charter where you can plan your own funeral before you die (at any age) and pay it off in instalments.
In Ireland as well you can pay a funeral off in installments and you can get a grand for a certain amount of the costs.
Sadly many seem to think they need to be spending a fortune for expensive unneeded items when saying good bye to someone . Many want to be able to say they spent a lot as if it means anything to the deceased
@@eileenmcdonald3162
Funerals are for the living. Some folks feel the amount they spend proves how much they care. It's deluded, but that kind of thinking is often supported by one's social circle. Pretty sad.
I'm a simple girl. I see a new Ask a Mortician video, I click.
My husband just overheard her talking about the infants and was like "wtf are you watching??" It's almost like he's forgotten how dark I am
Me too, panda!!
Yes! I came on CZcams for music and was like “ya’ll gotta wait 11 minutes for that song”
@@beccasmith1276 Couples therapy, now, before this gets serious... 😉
im from the detroit area, an this was all over the local news a while ago.
I have to thank you after all.
Since a year I was suffering from panic attack like episodes and so I started to confront myself with live and death, to hopefully find out from where my fears are really coming and to watch your videos really helped me a lot.
Today I know that my inner self is reflecting all the fears, that I suppressed over 20.years of my life and often even longer, through panic about running out of air or lungs that aren't working correctly anymore.
I'm very rational but spirituality is also a big part of my life, as contradicting that may sound, but it's is what it is.
Through my autism I'm a very rational thinking being and that's the reason why I always could control my panic episodes till a point, that they never became real attacks with hyperventilation or mindless shouting, crying or something similar.
That's also the reason, why your videos helped me a lot.
While I was working in my self psychologically and spiritually, the confrontation with death in such a nice and funny way, was a good support for my therapy.
So thank you very, very much, for reminding me again, that we all will fade away one day and what ever comes next, it's nothing to be scared about, cause fear won't do anything good when it comes to having a longer time span to live. It's exactly the opposite.. Go on with what you're doing!
As soon as I heard "michigan" I got my hopes up that this was about the shady funeral home by my house but nope
Why is it shady? If you're on to something, then you may be able to convince someone to investigate it!
Heck yes! Maybe you should look into it, be a little Sherlock yourself. After watching a few of these videos if another one of my loved ones die, I'm asking for a tour of the place and asking every possible question I could think of!
Sage the Aquarius wth I also live in Michigan and have an old shady funeral home next door 😂😂
Thank you for the warning. I watched it anyway, because you're awesome. But as a mother I appreciate the warning.
I agree. Whenever babies or children are involved, I get too emotional. I don't like the one with the little girl Rosalia because my daughter looks like her and it weirds me out. I've never watched the coffin birth episode either. I'm just too sensitive when it comes to children. On the episode of Death in the Afternoon that featured James town, I cried about the children. Everything else though, no matter how weird or gross, I'm like "being it on!"
@@TheShatteredhookah I think its hormones but I'm exactly the same ....
I'm a retired hospice care nurse and hospital chaplain. Thank you so much for your amazing channel! You do untold good with your approach to all things around death without being morbid or disrespectful. Please keep on keeping on.
There was a funeral home nearby in Fort Worth (Johnson Family Mortuary) that got busted for having 8 decaying bodies stored in the basement. While not on this scale, the painful salt in the wounds of the grieving were that families had paid for services that were never fulfilled. This is evil, plain and simple.
I swear these topics are just so interesting. The only thing I ever knew was from some TV show called Six Feet Under, and that was late nothing compared to what you have here. Just so interesting I can't really describe it.
Sara Wilcker SFU is my favourite show, it’s what got me into becoming a funeral director.
Aw I loved that programme!
One of my favorite programs ever. Great writing, acting and the perfect blend of drama and wry humor.
Loved that show. The last episode going thru each characters life had me in tears. Wish the show would have continued longer on air.
Caitlin needs to upload more. I can't stop watching these interesting and informative videos! Hope she gets a new "the meow" soon! "The meowS" is a good name....
Wait, at what point did they say “this place is closed indefinitely”? Like, that many issues in close succession, I would think, should mean no license, no business, not allowed.
0:21 I remember when that happened in Detroit, MI! That was all over the news!
“I want to speak to your manager!” Is much more suitable for this topic than just some regular ol’ corpse blood
I think this is true for many industries. After a point, more schooling is not gonna make you better at some jobs and cannot replace basic ehhics and integrity.
Considering the horrific things discussed here (and I have lost a baby) you still managed to make me laugh out loud with your beautiful personality and quirky manor :-) You remind me of my daughter lol, even the hair xxx
I live in metro Detroit, I was wondering when you were going to cover this story.
When my brother's father-in-law passed away they couldn't afford even cremation. Whatever funeral home they found to work with them charged $300 and she could only get a teaspoon of his ashes in a tiny urn to keep and the rest they would discard. Anyone hear of something like that?
Wow, I never heard of that but what does it cost them why not give the family all the ashes it's in a plastic bag and sm cardboard box. The expensive tedious process is done. I'm confused by their tactics. That's really sad.
That is very sketchy and Im sorry to hear that happened, I would honestly just call up your local authority and ask them. Even if it's be awhile because that doesn't sound right at all. My family was very lucky when my father passed away the funeral home let us do payments on his cremation.
It sounds to me like they didn't cremate him and just gave them a little of somebody else's ashes. Perhaps he is in an attic somewhere.
This doesn't sound right. Why just a teaspoon of ashes?
That sounds sketchy as hell. Report that funeral home to the BBB and whatever regulates funeral homes where you live.