So heartbroken to hear that some of the best content on CZcams is being buried by… CZcams. Y’all stay STRONG and keep going I promise this will be put right. This video is stunningly good and one of my favorite videos I have seen this year.
One of the worst things about it is that her content only helps CZcams when it comes to being a legitimate source of highly quality informative documentary content. If CZcams shows such hostility towards good educational content, that only serves to promote dis/misinformation.
This is the long form educational content that I come to CZcams for, because it is not available on anything like TV anymore - treated sensitively and honestly with great respect for the victims of the tragedy, and without pulling punches on the perpetrators. Thank you for your hard work! Dear CZcams: Guys, get your crap together.
Just watched this for second time after seeing Catilan's new posting about CZcams saying it violated "community guidelines." It sooo doesn't. It's educational, tastefully and sincerely narrated, shows nothing shocking or inappropriate, and tells the story of what should be an iconic event that all Americans' should be aware of because of the deaths for sure, but also because of the lives that were cut short by the stubborness of the boat captain and the greed and stupidity of the boat company owner. This should never have happened, but since it did, we must know about it and learn lessons from it prevent deaths in the future due to lack of standards, enforcement, and just human decency. And the heroes of the Eastland disaster, as well as the everyday victims deserve to be remembered. Thanks Caitlan for such quality documentaries like this one.
Thank you for this on behalf of myself, and my grandmother Anna Bohn who was one of the fortunate survivors of The Eastland that terrible day. She worked at Western Electric and had just turned 20 years old earlier that month July 1915.. It was so traumatic that she tried not to speak of it her whole life, and vowed never to set foot in a boat, and she never did again living to age 83.
So sorry to read that., And watch video. Sister sent that to me last night after I sent her another horrible tragedie at sea but only maybe 20ft off shore. The Artic and The Atlantic luxury cruise liner. I said in comments on the Artic.. if I was captain I'd out right shot my second in command. I resonantly saw new pictures of the Titanic BEFORE it sailed. In the new images.. I'm sorry to report it was out right murder of all those people on Titanic. Look it up!! It had a fire burning inside ship right where the ice burg hit on out side. And they all new before leaving 🤬 I'm thinking they should have Hybrid Luxury Cruise Lines. No humans driving. Completely over seen by satellite and whatever else.
There are videos from the Sri Lanka tsunami in which 200,000 people died,, one of an American man and his wife who were above the flood water in a reinforced concrete hotel watching people go by,, screaming for help and totally helpless and her husband was going to go and jump, but she said no you'll be dead... She could only stop him from jumping over to help by saying,, don't leave me... They had to watch totally helpless as thousands of people went by their spot, floating away to their deaths... Absolutely horrible...
@@marinayacenko3107 Shavarsh Karapetyan and others like him are exceptional precisely because of how rare it is. Shavarsh was also an Olympian swimmer. There are many more stories of people trying to be heroes and getting themselves and others killed. Why do you think you're asked to put your own oxygen mask on before assisting others? At the end of the day, the only one you can truly be responsible for is yourself.
My grandfather took me to that pier on a visit to Chicago when I was younger. He said “do you know what happened here?” I being younger said no and he simply responded with “Chicago cried but not loud enough to be remembered ” and never explained what he meant. Thanks for the explanation after all these years Caitlin!
She does a real service in presenting the unvarnished story of death and dying and she does it respectfully. In no way does she ever sensationalize these events. She’s an educator of a difficult topic most of us prefer to avoid. It’s healthy to face it and appreciate the human story in all its facets. She’s the right messenger for those who are interested. Not many could pull this off with her experience and knowledge and a combination of grace and humor where appropriate. Kudos.
CZcams kicks a truly honest and talented content creator in the face and they falsely flag their content? SHAME ON THEM Caitlin, we are here for you and your team! We love you to death. Keep up the hard work and never give up!
@@213_SANCH3Z .. She's got some but I bet she's pretty busy because funeral rites are changing fast,, post- c*vid... Ordinarily I'd think someone was being,, morbidly opportunistic,, for doing videos about death but she's so cool about it,, with the humor being peripheral and all courtesy and sensitivity given to the dearly departed that one can't help but feel,, this is a Calling and not primarily a business opportunity...
My great-grandmother was one of those 3 pregnant widows. My grandmother was born in February 1916. She was names Edros Henrietta - after her father Edward Henry Garner. Because my great-grandmother was pregnant she chose not to go on the company picnic. My GG lost the love of her life and never remarried. ❤
What's your great grandmother's name? I'd like to know the name of the woman who loved Edward, and raised Edros, and complete the picture in my head. Sorry your family suffered through this. Edward is a family name in my family as well, all the boys have it as their middle name, so this stood out to me.
My grandfather was a mortician and owned a funeral home in Gary, Indiana when this happened. He was one of the ones that helped out in Chicago after this awful accident. I still have his star badge that he received for his assistance.
CZcams is ridiculous. This is a beautiful, well documented depiction of this tragic event. I’ve lived in Chicago my entire life and never learned about this tragedy. Thank you Caitlin for this history lesson.
I attended school in Illinois during 1966 and we were taught about this in our 4th grade class and had a field trip to the various sites. Our teacher was one of the survivors. Never let the lessons learned be forgotten and never forget the people who gave their lives to teach us these lessons ❤
It's disgraceful that CZcams would censure creators/channel obviously interested in the enrichment of its viewers. This was a great piece of work. Thank you for being such a wonderful and committed creator. Welcome to the East Coast.. If you are ever in Philadelphia I'd happily buy you a cuppa tea.
Agreed. I'm very curious as to what exactly triggered it. Documentaries on youtube seems like an impossibility, yet the "big one" on Plutocracy is still up there. Maybe time to consider copying all content over to alternative platforms? CZcams absolutely sucks as an "employer". No warning. No rights. No dialogue. No nothing. Just unconditional and unregulated capitalism allowed to run amok. Most other countries have limits to what "private companies" can do. US? Absolutely nothing.
I'll share the news here... It's not CZcams. The ad agencies unionized against CZcams, and now dictate the rules. The reason CZcams policy is so invisible is because they don't choose the policy. They do. They collation, CZcams jumps... Federal copyright law as well as "protect the children" bills give these agencies teeth to threaten CZcams. CZcams is forced to work for it's real customers: Ad Orgs. This is the cost of free. Pay for you media.
I just reviewed this video again myself and I don't see what CZcams is going on about saying she violated the community guidelines that is outside of a normal documentary. The only thing I saw was a very well put together documentary on a tragic event done with great respect To the memory of those who went through it.
Extremely weird of CZcams to restrict this video for not being educational when it is literally a documentary! And not a sensationalized documentary, but a really thoroughly researched and collaborative effort involving actual survivors, which is above and beyond lots of the documentaries and video essays I often enjoy (even here on CZcams). Like I love to watch someone simply telling a story, but this is a really thoughtful and thorough video!
I completely agree. It's an excellent documentary, like the kind I used to enjoy on the History Channel back when they still focused on history and facts.
That photo towards the end of the man with abject terror in his eyes as he cradles the limp body of a baby is beyond heartbreaking....thank you Caitlin for ensuring the story of the Eastland is not forgotten.
This story is amazing!! My grandfather (I am 71), was one of the men that helped people out of the water. My ancestors were people that did not talk about The Eastland. Thank you all the details and individual stories you put into these documentaries.
Shame on CZcams for flagging this. This was beautifully done. I honestly cried a few times during this story and it’s a shame this tragedy doesn’t get the recognition it deserves.
My grandmother's plans changed at the last minute, and she missed boarding the Eastland. It's amazing and chilling to think of the course of events( or not a course at all) if she hadn't been delayed in getting to the Eastland.
So did I. The people I asked (who also grew up in Chicago) don't know about it. I hate to tell you but there are different experiences when one is white. Think about who was on the ship. I would say most people don't know about it enough to even forget it.
This doesn't appear to be shadow banned any more as it was once again recommended to me by CZcams. This is so important and needs to be talked about more often. Thank you for making this
Same, it was recommended to my feeds soon after i've watched Caitlin's video about this topic being restricted by YT's "Community Guidelines". I'm glad an actual human in youtube, reverted the video back to its original status.
@@BriarcastlePlays It’s currently less buried than it was a couple weeks ago, even for current subscribers. Hoping to see confirmation of full guidelines strike reversal soon, if CZcams really fully reverses all aspects of the bot’s massive mistake and sends the confirmation/ apology to Caitlyn, I’ll stop skipping the ads when I periodically rewatch this incredibly educational documentary.
@@8S1ns It shouldn't have been taken down to begin with. And they never would have done anything had it not been cut the audience tweeting at youtube so much.
Ms Doughty is a master story-teller and documentarian. She provides her viewers with INFORMATIVE content; stories that are forgotten in time and need to be re-told. We are EDUCATED by Ms Doughty with every video she produces. She always respects her subject and cites her sources. CZcams is VERY LUCKY to count her as one of their creative content providers.
Disgraceful that CZcams would not allow these people to be properly remembered in the respectful and caring way you've put forth in this video:( Your team is doing amazing work
As a native Czech, thank you for this video. I knew about this but hearing someone to tell it such respectfully, thank you. And don't worry about the pronunciation. Our words are hard :)
Shame on CZcams for suppressing this. Such a well done, educational video. My partner lived in Wisconsin and Chicago his whole life and had no idea about this tragedy. Your ability to discuss death at such a mass scale with such care and respect is always amazing to me. Have all of your books & watch all of your videos. I hope this gets sorted for you.
I just saw this on my recommended list as well. I hope your video about youtube's mistaken censorship had an effect. I see the views have gone way up over 600K as well. Great job, wonderful, sensitive treatment of a difficult topic, as usual!
Same here, I wanted to actively look for this video after Jessie Gender mentioned that you were having similar problems than those she had with some of her videos, but there it was already in my recommendations. I hope Jessies video is, or will soon be back too.
I cant stop tearing up thinking about reggie bowles, the human frog. He was 18, he was *younger than i am*, and he pulled 40 bodies from the river. He may not have saved 40 people, but he changed more than 40 lives. Im glad he's being remembered. I hope he lived the rest of his life well.
such a tragic thing that happened but i really think this emphasizes "looking for the helpers" in these situations. it's incredible to hear how many people were willing to help.
An amazing re-telling of this story, thank you Caitlin. Unfortunately we are once again reminded that corporations aren't our friends, whether they're CZcams or the owners of the Eastland.
Just finished watching the video. I sat virtually motionless through most of it, shedding tears. I am 68 years old and had NEVER heard of this awful tragedy! Thank you for bringing this to so many people who did not know either. I for one will never forget.
Someone at youtube needs to be held accountable for such a blatant error in judgement. These souls need to be remembered and their loss mourned. This documentary was done in the most respectful way possible. You deserve an apology and this documentary needs to be on youtube so everyone remembers the tragedy.
@@taylorkeith4400 Or just edit the algorithm! Such a shame that this will now be effectively buried like the original story has been. CZcams really needs to get it's collective s**t together. Pardon my French but this really claws at me.
It's so incredibly upsetting that their memory is being buried AGAIN just when a team was specifically addressing this collective amnesia. It feels like "no good deed goes unpunished"!
No reason to flag the documentary, what were they thinking?? It's very respectful and professional, you can see the amount of time and effort that went into making this. It makes you feel for the victims so much that I cried watching it.
This broke me, I cried the whole way through. My heart goes out to all those who suffered, who lost their lives, who had to live with the trauma and loss and may all of them be resting in true peace together again. I hope that fireman (and others like him) managed to find some sort of peace and happiness in their lives after… ❤
Thank you Caitlin for sharing this story. I’m from Australia and have almost no ties to America yet I felt this no less strongly. I will never forget this.
It's hard for first responders to process that. My brother pulled bodies out the water after the Taki-Tooo accident (off the Oregon coast). He had not spoken to our mom for years before that (they'd had a falling out) but he called her. He needed his momma, you know? He doesn't speak of it still. It was 20 years ago.
It saddens me that this video has been pushed back by CZcams when you and your colleagues worked so hard on it. It deserves twice the attention than it has gotten 🥺
I literally stopped what I was doing and just stared out in to the room with an open mouth. Never taking it for granted that my baby is safe and happy ❤️
I wanted to know if the baby made it out to safety Odds are that their entire family was on the boat, and possibly died Hopefully a someone managed to grab the baby from the water and got them to safety...
I just found this video and had to click on it immediately. I wrote a paper and did a project about the Eastland disaster when I was in high school in Chicago. I was amazed that no one had ever mentioned it in our history classes and decided that I would. The story has stuck with me all these years and I am so happy that others are now speaking about it and trying to preserve the memories of those involved.
Caitlin, I love this video. It's insane to me that youtube has falsely labelled this video as having violated community guidelines. The first thought I had after finishing this video the first time around was "Wow. Why have I never learned about this before?" You TAUGHT me about this disaster. EDUCATED me on this tragedy whereas I would have otherwise never found out about it. So thank you everyone behind this video! Amazing, hard working and dedicated people behind the scenes!
I saw nothing that would violate community standards. It had no gore, violent imagery. I was more disturbed by the accounts of the police holding the people back from rescuing passengers. Caitlin provided a needed look at the past.
My great-grandparents were children of Bohemian immigrants. When they moved from rural Grundy county Illinois to Chicago in 1919 with my grandmother, who was only two at the time, their neighbor was a survivor of the Eastland. She taught my grandmother to swim because she lost her own daughter on the Eastland. Her daughter was just two years old when she died.
Reading this comment hits me like a brick after seeing Caitlin's humble (yet impressive) document about the tragedy. May God have and reunite their souls 😢♥🙏
@@SableRain I always cry when I hear about horrible things that happened to children. My son is 30 now, but he was kidnapped at 14 months and was missing for a year. Worst time of my life, and his too. I'm glad he can't remember what happened to him, but his PTSD affected him for life all the same.
police blocking people from helping 100 years ago (or the Texas school hijacking) is ridiculous. Police forget they are Servants of the People not our masters .
Thank you for this excellent video on the Eastland disaster of 1915 in Chicago. I forget the Czech word for "family burial plot" but lots of family plots got filled after this disaster. I see no reason for CZcams to have flagged this video except someone somewhere made a terrible bad mistake. This video is an educational video that would take a book or two of reading to acquire all the information contained in the video. I have been a history student all of my adult life. I have seen numerous documentaries on CZcams about the Eastland disaster. I study disasters, especially maritime disasters. We can see many similarities between the Eastland disaster of 1915 and the Sultana riverboat explosion of 1865. The Sultana riverboat explosion occurred in April, 1865. The Sultana exploded about six miles north of Memphis. The Mississippi River has shifted so the spot where the explosion happened is now in a farmer's field. But the point here is 1800 plus people died on the Sultana. The worst part was most of the passengers on the Sultana were Union soldiers who had been prisoners of war at Andersonville and other notorious Confederate camps. The captain of the Sultana was paid PER SOLDIER and MORE FOR AN OFFICER. However, the Sultana had had boiler problems in bad need of a major overhaul and serious inspection. Instead, piece meal patchwork repairs were made on the boilers because the captain of the Sultana did NOT want to miss his windfall to make a small fortune hauling prisoners home. We see the cost of greed here in both the Sultana and the Eastland disasters share greed, negligence and the fact no one was ever held accountable. The Sultana captain was killed and other Union officers involved resigned grom the service or escaped court martial. So trials seldom bring justice to the victim's families when the disaster is a huge one. Few people except history students know about the Sultana disaster. President Lincoln's funeral train was coming home to Illinois at the same time. The Civil War had just ended in the East and the Lincoln conspirators were being rounded up by Union authorities. It is so sad that our history textbooks almost never mention the 1800 plus soldiers and civilian women and children who perished on the Sultana disaster. Few memorials and few reminders exist today to tell the story. It is ironic that many of the Union soldiers who were saved were pulled out of the water by Confederate veterans. Something has to happen to make a disaster iconic. Neither the Sultana disaster, the Eastland or other steamboat disasters like the hundreds killed on the Lady Elgin steamer on Lake Michigan in 1860 made it to the "iconic" stage. However, the victims and their families deserve to be remembered for what happened to them and for any lessons history can teach us to prevent other disasters in the future.
Thank you for sharing Rex. Now I and many others have known a little bit about the hidden history of those disasters. I've never heard about them before. I do believe storytelling content creators will cover these stories in the future because of the barely known factor. I mean their stories are underexposed as much as the Titanic story is overexposed. All of these disasters should be remembered and learned from so it won't happen again. Again thank you and God bless you.
I’ve seen your comment almost 6 months later but I want to thank you for sharing the story of Sultana and it’s victims. I’ve never been in USA but my heart breaks the same. It’s morbid to say but I almost wish they had a quick passing as imagining otherwise is torturous. I hope wherever they are now they’re at peace.
Here is a video on the Sultana disaster of April, 1865. One note here is recent scholarship seems to support the concept that the steel used in the boilers of 1850's/1860's steam river boats was inadequate and brittle to deal the high pressures in the boilers. MANY boilers of steamboats of this era exploded on the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers including the Great Lakes steamboats of this era. American engineering understanding of thermodynamics and steel quality improved markedly reducing boiler explosions. The human factors aside, all the passengers and crew on the Sultana were doomed. czcams.com/video/5DLKI4VltuE/video.html
I'm back here again after Caitlyn said this video breached community guidlines and I just want to say to everyone who worked on this that I will do my best to share this video because it is such an important story. I really hope that you are still able to keep making death positive content because, while I am a new fan of the channel, I have always wanted to know more and so long as you make the content I'm sure myself and other death positivity advocates will stand with you.
Thank you very much for this. My great auntie survived the Eastland Disaster at age eight. She lived to be one month shy of 100 years old and was the last survivor alive at that time. You may have come across her interviews in your research. My family is of Bohemian descent and my auntie lived in Cicero for the whole of her life. I’m so grateful she survived.
my family is czech and my great aunt was also in chicago at the same time, but she was about 14, that must have been terrifying for your great auntie, and I wouldn't have been surprised if my great aunt had known people involved in the incident because she was living in the czech community at the time
This is the best historical depiction of this disaster ever told. The quality of this documentary is unsurpassed. The amount of detail in this production is just off the charts amazing. Caitlin they're not forgotten they will live on in this historical masterpiece.
My great aunt worked for Western Electric. She and my grandfather, her brother, were to be on the Eastland that day. My mother said my aunt was late, as per her usual, so they didn't arrive on time. I am here are living proof that being late isn't always a bad thing. I think my grandfather always kept the killed in his prayers everyday. Like all the others he never spoke about it.
This silence is not only for self preservation, but to let dead dogs lay. I am indigenous American. We you learn, don't ask don't tell or you suffer the consequences.
How can this video be accused of ‘violating’ anything???? It is a heartfelt memorial to the thousands who died that day and I commend you for the sensitivity you brought to it. Thank you Caitlin and your team.
All it takes is enough ignorant (likely butt hurt) people reporting it, unfortunate... & For the record Tweeting @CZcams does actually help, regardless of if they know who the creator is or not. Twitter is actually the best way to get their attention. When through this trying to help Heels in the Air not long ago & Brunt Toast before that. It works! They had their entire channel suspended & not just a warning & shadow ban. Just saying
This is my third time watching this. It's one of my favorites by you and it's so infuriating that CZcams tried to kill it. I love local history, and it was incredible to learn about something this major happening in my state that I had never heard about. I actually visited the site of the Eastland disaster when I was in Chicago last month. It was such a somber place; I ended up just sitting there for a few minutes and processing everything.
Such an amazing and sad story, and well told. All those young lives lost on what was meant to be an enjoyable day out. Being in the UK I've never heard of this tragedy before...a massive thank you for educating me.
I cannot believe CZcams have a problem with this. This tragic event was handled in a reverent and sensitive way. There was nothing gratuitous, nothing sensational, nothing gruesome, this was a factual and sympathetic summation of the facts surrounding this terrible tragedy. It's an absolute travesty that you've been treated this way by CZcams. If you do decide to use an alternative platform, I, and I suspect most of your subscribers, will follow you there. Keep up the good work.
I’m watching this again because CZcams doesn’t seem to understand how educational you have always been and all the hard work everyone put into this it’s so professional
This is an incredibly important EDUCATIONAL DOCUMENTARY that portrays the Eastland Disaster with care, respect, and professionalism. Good work, Caitlyn and crew! You hit this one out of the park, and YT’s dumb algorithm blew it entirely by mislabeling this fascinating content.
This was absolutely heart wrenching to watch, but thank you to every person involved in making this because these stories truly do need to be remembered. I grew up near Chicago and never even heard of this before today and that is a shame. What's even more shameful is that CZcams tried to bury this, especially with the aim being to make sure this story isn't completely lost to time. Thank you Caitlin for all that you and your team do
I must weigh in here, given the recent YT designation: I found this documentary to be EDUCATIONAL, INFORMATIVE, and most importantly, was produced with the utmost respect to the victims and families of this tragic event. One can tell a lot of work went into this video, and, as an observer of history, I found this documentary to be EDUCATIONAL and INFORMATIVE. Period.
It's devastating but also gives a sense of comfort because the six of them shared an unforgettable day/ceramony with the girls especially being the ones to help carry the caskets which usually isn't done by friends and family for what I know
@@katewuzhere3794 for me it's important because I got to be the only female pallbarer for both my maternal grandparents and only wasn't for my paternal geandmother because it was under covid restrictions during lockdown x
An excellent documentary on the SS Eastland. I'm ashamed to say that I was not really aware of this tragedy. Thank you for creating this video and not letting the people who died, to have died in vain.
I'm rewatching tonight because I went by the memorial this afternoon. Felt surreal standing in a spot where 800 plus people were gone in a matter of minutes.
This video is both respectfully done and educational. CZcams's decision to censor it makes absolutely no sense. Thank you for shining a light on this tragic event and for all the educational work you do on your channel!
What an EDUCATIONAL video! I have learned so much about the SS Eastland because of how EDUCATIONAL this video is. This video truly does pay tribute to those who tragically lost their lives to this accident and I am grateful to the many people that spent months working on it. I am sure the victims and family members of the victims are glad that their story is being told in an EDUCATIONAL MANNER. Keep up the great work Kaitlyn and friends!
Exactly! Completely agree. It is the very definition of EDUCATIONAL! And so well and respectfully done. Shame on CZcams for trying to censure it. It warms my heart to see so many here commenting the opposite of CZcams's very wrong verdict.
As a fellow medievalist and history lover, I love this documentary-style production. This is respectful, engaging, well-researched, and educational. Thank you for working so hard to create this content.
My grandfather was adamant that I and my brother learn how to swim and made our mom take us to swim lessons. He said it was a survival skill everyone should know because you never know when you're going to need it. Idk why but that always stuck with me and was part of why I ended up developing such a love of swimming.
What a beautiful tribute to the victims of this historic tragedy. I am so proud of this channel. This is what I wish more of CZcams was like. I don't need more makeup gurus, prank videos, or consumerism-based vlogs. Thank you for making quality content that is timeless. Educational content with this level of care and attention to historic fact and cultural significance should NOT because censored or removed.
I’m so sorry that this was silenced by CZcams. A lot of the old school CZcamsrs have thankfully been bringing attention to this and the major issues surrounding the lack of transparency from CZcams. This was such a well done video, and I really hope we can continue getting such fantastic content from yourself. Stay strong, Caitlin!
It reminds me of when Ann Reardon's well-researched video warning of the extreme dangers of fractal wood burning was removed by YT, but none of the videos showing how to do it were. It makes me ask "who are the people who make these decisions and do they even Watch the videos in question?"
@@daisukidatotoro That's the catch. There are no "people" at all. It's so much more cost effective if everything is handled by autobots. Including the "appeal" process (see: "breads and circuses"). Unless it's somehow cheaper for them to actually give a damn about anything except $$$ - they have no incentive to change anything.
@@Kittie28 part of that is the video doesnt go into recomended and isnt promoted by the algorythm anymore. It hasnt been taken down but it isnt getting the reach that it could be.
It’s so ironic because I just recently discovered your channel, and what drew me to it was the incredible job you do telling stories and educating me on history others overlook. I hope you will keep doing what you do and don’t let the ill informed and ill intended get you down!
My grandfather worked for Western Electric in Hawthorne. While Western Electric didn't force the employees to go, according to relatives, the leadership of the social club "strongly encouraged" workers to go. My grandfather had to help identify the dead. This was so upsetting to him, he left Chicago permanently.
I was born and raised in Chicago and have known about the Eastland. This is a great documentary that tells it like it is and does not deserve the treatment it's getting. It's real life, not a Hollywood movie. You did a wonderful job, Caitlyn. Thank you for keeping their memories alive.
I’m 70 years old, raised on my mother’s Western Electric salary and benefits. I went to many annual company picnics in Indianapolis and they were a great company to work for. I’m surprised I never heard of the Eastland tragedy. Thank you Katelyn.
I would guess part of why people didn't talk about this disaster might actually be because the company was good to them, good to work for. Like she said, it's not too often we hear of a company simply doing things without having to be begged. Funerals, and the traditions we share with our communities about how we share grief and mourn together, go far toward helping people begin to heal. People knew who was at fault, the captain was being publicly vile the hour it happened. Not a lot of scandal or disregarded anger left to fester. I can't imagine how it would have felt to have all those neighbors grieving in all those houses with doors open.... I think it went a long way that the company made sure everyone had funeral costs and arrangements accessible. A lot of the disasters we know about, it feels like victims have been fighting for decades to even find out how they got hurt or who actually is responsible. Often neglected by their systems and dismissed. No one had to hold onto the story like that here
Hey Caitlin et al! Just to let you know, this video doesn’t appear to be being suppressed any more. I live in the U.K. & recently started watching your channel & last week I watched this video as it was on a suggested videos list when I opened your “ask a mortician” page! So fingers crossed they have now removed the ban! I love your content & I find it really interesting! Thanks for doing what you do!
I live a few blocks from the river and I've passed that exact spot thousands of times and had no idea about this happening... This city is full of so much history I'm completely ignorant of
Just got here from the video about this documentary being buried by YT. Such a shame for that! This is one of the best documentaries I've seen. Educational, engaging and respectful. Thank you so much for continuing this kind of work, Caitlyn! I would have never found out about this event without it. Hoping these kind of documentaries can still continue
I came here specifically because of your other video about this one being shadow banned. Incredibly moving narrative of what happened that day, and I can definitely say I'd never heard of the Eastland before. Thank you for digging up the story and spreading it the best way you can. (Also, happy to hear you'll be moving to the east coast! You and your content are a big reason I'm heading into school to become a grief counselor!)
I wish you well and pay you great respect for the path you're going on; we need more people like you, and with mental health not being taken as seriously as it should be in a lot of places (the Twilight Zone of the East Coast is my home, not by choice, and getting help with my mental health has been a frustrating, nightmarish fight)...I just wish more people got the help they needed. So again, thank you for wanting to help those that are struggling.
Me too! I actually did hear about this disaster in passing on a history channel documentary about disasters following the Titanic but this was more in depth and humanizing. Thank you!
I came here thinking the gore must be bad if this video was flagged. It wasn't, we were shown what needed to be shown of the disaster, no self indulgent graphics or jokes, just facts about what happened and the people involved. Shame on CZcams for flagging this, this video is masterful.
I'm a year late, but I will continue. My grandmother was born in 1903. For some reason, (and sadly, I can't ask her) she was there by the water when the Eastland went down. She was 12 years old. For the rest of her life (she lived to be 85) she was haunted by what she saw there. She rarely talked about it, but when she did, she usually ended up in tears. What a tragedy! I just found out that YT decided that history is not to be watched by anyone. I often wonder if YT even watches the videos they strike. I just started watching your videos, I think you are great! Edit: after watching the entire video, I still do not see any reason for this video to be taken down by YT.
Coming here to boost engagement after your most recent video. This documentary is an absolutely glorious tribute to the victims and responsible and EDUCATIONAL history, and I’m so sorry CZcams is giving you problems.
It was extremely educational. The few photographs of bodies they showed were for educational purposes only, and not “gory” in the slightest. This is incredibly respectful to the victims, the survivor’s descendants, and an overall fantastic look into a hidden tragedy in US history.
I agree. If other videos can show victims of the Titanic sinking or the horrors we all saw on 9/11 and it's considered educational and historically valuable, what is the difference here?
I'll share the news here... It's not CZcams. The ad agencies unionized against CZcams, and now dictate the rules. The reason CZcams policy is so invisible is because they don't choose the policy. They do. They collation, CZcams jumps... Federal copyright law as well as "protect the children" bills give these agencies teeth to threaten CZcams. CZcams is forced to work for it's real customers: Ad Orgs. This is the cost of free. Pay for you media.
I have been so roundly EDUCATED by this video I can hardly believe it. The way you guys EDUCATED the viewer about how a heartless and clueless corporate entity can do some of the worst things and still not care is amazing. This video is so EDUCATIONAL on the subjects of shipwrecks, tragedy and oversight it should be at the top of the recommended, fully monetized and held up as an example of how good, well made and EDUCATIONAL some CZcams channels can be.
I was a lifeguard for 5 years, and in training they teach you how to slip out of someone's grasp, because even when you're a strong swimmer, someone grabbing onto you can be deadly. The mentality was always "you need to be able to stay alive if you're going to be able to help others"
I remember learning about this in my gym class when I was about 14. We were taught to have the life ring between us and the one we were saving because someone who is drowning will (understandably) grab onto anything to stay alive.
@@katlasdahgreat My dad drummed that into us as kids too. As a teenager, his sister almost drowned because she tried to help another girl who was drowning. In her panic, that other girl basically tried to climb on top of her and was pulling them both down. Very fortunately, a couple nearby saw what was happening and came over with an air mattress which saved them both.
@@katlasdahgreat I'm glad you said "understandably", because I do hear plenty of people quoting the phenomenon of drowning people dragging down other victims or rescuers, and suggesting that THEY wouldn't be as foolish or selfish in that situation. Realistically nobody is in control of themselves while suffocating, and certainty not capable of assessing the situation objectively or morally. I just don't believe anyone who is actively dying that way could think "my death is probabalistically nearly certain, and by grabbing this other person I would not only be greatly reducing their chances of survival, but it would absolutely be a bad look for me if we both die". And of course even if you knew that clinging to someone would greatly reduce their chances of survival, and somehow had the presence of mind to make that calculation, you might still understandably choose that risk over the screaming pain in your lungs... because pain (and the death that often follows extreme pain) is a horrible thing that humans have evolved to fear and avoid.
I hate to add this to the mix, but I was taught that if someone gets to violent, to punch them in the face or head, knocking them out. Then dragging them to shore. I've only had to do it once and it was heartbreakingly terrifying because you are dragging a lifeless person. But, it was either that or die trying to save them. When scuba diving, you are taught to fill the vest with air and kick or push the person away. You also drop their weight belt and let them float to the surface. But all of this is in open water. I can't imagine having furniture, hundreds of people, and pollution to contend with.
This certainly does not violate the community standards. Everything is educational and the only bodies shown were in pictures. This topic needs to be discussed more because nothing about it was ever taught when I was in school and I graduated in 2011. No warnings were given about it. We barely learned about the Titanic. I learned more about the Titanic from the movie than from school. If anything, we need more videos from Ask A Mortician than less because there is no one else that we can really go to for free for questions or information about such an important topic. So please CZcams, let her be in peace. She barely cusses, which you e even relaxed your rules about, and the public needs this information. Please make more videos if you have the time Miss Caitlin! I love your videos and love the Death positive movement!
This is heartbreaking and extremely EDUCATIONAL. I feel like this story is so overwhelmingly tragic, and an additional part of that tragedy has been the fact that it isn't nearly as talked about as it should be. I have been seriously EDUCATED by this DOCUMENTARY. Fell into this channel when my grandpa died and I was researching what embalming actually entailed, and it also changed my perspective on death so much - I'd never lost a close family member before. Death positivity is something everyone ought to embrace. I've been EDUCATED for so many years about a subject so few have the knowledge, expertise or compassion to talk about, and it's a shame that CZcams is punishing creators like Caitlin and the Ask a Mortician team, without even manually verifying anything, or replying properly to appeals. Again, want to reiterate how this is one of the most EDUCATIONAL goddamn channels on the platform.
I too enjoy this EDUCATIONAL content! 🙂 👩🏻🏫⬅️(Caitlin) Hypothetically, if someone were to accuse this channel, and especially this video, of not being EDUCATIONAL, well, then I'd believe their very smooth brain -or algorithm- is broken. 😋
I really hope this video doesn't get removed. It was so informative and EDUCATIONAL and a fascinating, tragic topic that I'd never heard of! It's amazing to hear from family members of victims and true experts of the topic. I can't believe CZcams had the gall, the absolute audacity, to say this video wasn't educational.
This is the kind of content the internet was made for, I feel. Stories that need to stay alive, stories that need to be remembered, treated with the dignity and respect they deserve. You're doing an amazing job, ma'am.
@don't be surprised The post I'm replying to is a click farmer who makes money by driving traffic to the posted video. Please downvote and report commercial spam.
@@debbylou5729 HHHolmes, the Chicago Fire are well known, as are some other disasters. But many are lost to history that’s why it’s important we keep these stories alive to keep their lessons from being forgotten
this is so crazy; I've only heard of this disaster in passing and with the context that it was passengers all rushing to one side that doomed them. It was when I was a kid, and as sort of a "don't be stupid" warning. :/ Now that I'm an adult and aware of just how often people blame the victims of tragedy (especially when there are larger issues woven in to the cause, or a loss of profit is involved) I'm really shocked that this one story stayed in the back of my mind, uncorrected. Thank you for covering this, truly.
The Museum Ship Valley Camp in Sault Ste Marie, Michigan, has some history on the SS Eastland. I read about it over this past summer. Thank you for elaborating in more detail. The victims of this tragedy should not be forgotten
I'm Czech and I have never heard of this disaster. Seeing the tombstones and funeral records written in my language and all the familiar first and last names hit very close to home for me. It really humanized the people that lost their lives and the lives of their loved ones... For a moment I felt like I've just lost a close relative. Thank you Caitlin for sharing this story with us. My prayers go to the surviving families...
I'm Czech and I have never heard about this neither. I am deeply touched by this video because the girl from the story of two engaged young people had the same family name as I do. Have to start my own research. I feel shaken by this whole story. Thank you for sharing!!!
My paternal grandmother's maiden name was Radek and her father was from Prague. He immigrated to Chicago in the late 1800s where my grandmother was born. This story now has me wondering about the Czech citizens who died on the ship.
Wow, I am being EDUCATED for the second time about the short comings of law enforcement and non-graphic display of bodies WITH EDUCATIONAL INTENT because I am an adult capable of making my own decisions about what I watch on CZcams and I choose to watch this incredible video by this incredible channel who took so much time and care to make this piece, even if it's slightly grim! Love you guys! Great video!
I’m shocked that I’ve never heard of this tragedy, it’s strange to me how some tragedies have 100 years of airtime such as the titanic, and this has been so under wraps. Absolutely heartbreaking that so many young people lost their lives in this way, a completely avoidable incident. I’ve only recently found your channel, and watched the CZcams community guidelines video before, but thank you for what you do. This is the most sensitive and educational documentary I’ve seen on here. Keep doing what you’re doing!
When I was a young kid, I had a relative who worked at Western Electric at the time, and who had planned to go on that excursion. On the day of the sailing, some friends of his convinced his to go with them down to Montrose Beach to chase girls. When he got home, his parents were relieved that he wasn't dead. He hadn't heard of the disaster.
As a former Mortician, I appreciate your channel being here. I am not as up-to-date as you so it's nice to have reliable, educational, and tactfully done content to share with curious minds.
Shame on CZcams for censoring this perfectly appropriate historical content. There is nothing sordid or exploitive about this video, it is educational and important to understand why disasters happen and remember the victims.
Caitlin this documentary was excellent. You told the story of the Eastland so respectfully and you clearly did your research. I had never heard about this disaster before and can't fathom why. What I also can't fathom is why CZcams has such an issue with this documentary. I can't see anything about it at all that was the least bit contentious. I hope you don't allow their views to discourage you from producing documentaries like this in the future. Well done.
I’ve lived in Chicago for almost 30 years, walked past the Lasalle Bridge and have never heard of this disaster. Thank you for this well made video and respectful storytelling- I’ll be sure to visit the memorial site. It’s a damn shame that CZcams decided that this video needs to be flagged and demonetized. You put so much work into this documentary.
@Eastland Disaster Historical Society I’m an Australian with almost no American ties but Caitlin’s video had me in tears. I will remember this story for years to come, not just because of the devastation of it all but also for the way people came together, giving all they had to save those they could and recover those they could. This disaster should be heard on a global scale. May the victims and their families and friends be resting together again in peace.
@@maddscott833I'd heard vaguely about it but I thought it was a ship sunk by a U-boat... Seeing the truth that it was a completely preventable tragedy that didn't even happen in the ocean but right next to an urban dock is extremely maddening to me... The criminals who took money for passengers on that ship should have been hung,, any sensible Maritime engineer could tell that the ship was total dogshit and shouldn't be hauling freight let alone people... They packed it way beyond capacity because they could get more money and weren't overly concerned about the passengers seeing as how they were only industrial workers and their families...
Wait .... what? Demonetized? Why? I don't really understand the inner workings of CZcams. I rarely post videos, but when I do, it's just stuff that my friends and family would enjoy. I don't care about clicks, but I'm aware that posting content on CZcams can be a pretty lucrative gig for those who are willing to put the work into their videos. I can't imagine why a video with over a million views - made by a creator of high quality content - would be demonetized. This woman's CZcams channel brings in millions of views, upvotes, and lots of engagement. She obviously puts a lot of work into her content. Not only is this video phenomenal - everything she creates is phenomenal. Surely she brings in a lot of ad revenue for CZcams, so why would they not allow her to be compensated for her work? That is so messed up!
This is one of the most educational productions I've seen on CZcams- especially since I've studied a lot of history, but NEVER heard of the Eastland. Here's to the survivors of this disaster, and rest in peace to those who have long since died. How do you prevent the showing of a documentary like this? Good, good, good work Ms Mortician.
He was probably feeling the same thing that most people who have gone through a wrongful death suit when greed was the cause. Downhomesunset is right. Anger, resentment, unbelievable pain and grief…
@@sunflower9611 Not comparable to some people, but I did have a beloved dog that got poisoned by a neighbour. He threatened that he was going to do it; I reported it to the police and they went and “talked” to him. I experienced those feelings as I desperately tried to give Brooke CPR, but she died in my arms. I was grieving so loudly that a passerby called the police, and the officer who reassured me that nothing would happen responded. I could not imagine losing a human being to someone else’s lack of care for lives.
@@downhomesunset I am so sorry this happened to you. This is my worst nightmare. Animals have such a strong soul that they almost feel human. I hope you’re doing better now. Your neighbor is literally trash for doing that.
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So heartbroken to hear that some of the best content on CZcams is being buried by… CZcams. Y’all stay STRONG and keep going I promise this will be put right. This video is stunningly good and one of my favorite videos I have seen this year.
Garrett!! That is so sweet of you to say
I totally agree, we can fix this!
It showed up in my feed without me looking for it. Looks like the "violated Community Standards" thing has been lifted!
One of the worst things about it is that her content only helps CZcams when it comes to being a legitimate source of highly quality informative documentary content. If CZcams shows such hostility towards good educational content, that only serves to promote dis/misinformation.
Agreed, please share this everywhere 👍
This is the long form educational content that I come to CZcams for, because it is not available on anything like TV anymore - treated sensitively and honestly with great respect for the victims of the tragedy, and without pulling punches on the perpetrators. Thank you for your hard work!
Dear CZcams: Guys, get your crap together.
Agreed
Amen!
Amen!
AMEN
Just watched this for second time after seeing Catilan's new posting about CZcams saying it violated "community guidelines." It sooo doesn't. It's educational, tastefully and sincerely narrated, shows nothing shocking or inappropriate, and tells the story of what should be an iconic event that all Americans' should be aware of because of the deaths for sure, but also because of the lives that were cut short by the stubborness of the boat captain and the greed and stupidity of the boat company owner. This should never have happened, but since it did, we must know about it and learn lessons from it prevent deaths in the future due to lack of standards, enforcement, and just human decency. And the heroes of the Eastland disaster, as well as the everyday victims deserve to be remembered. Thanks Caitlan for such quality documentaries like this one.
Thank you for this on behalf of myself, and my grandmother Anna Bohn who was one of the fortunate survivors of The Eastland that terrible day. She worked at Western Electric and had just turned 20 years old earlier that month July 1915.. It was so traumatic that she tried not to speak of it her whole life, and vowed never to set foot in a boat, and she never did again living to age 83.
So sorry to read that., And watch video. Sister sent that to me last night after I sent her another horrible tragedie at sea but only maybe 20ft off shore. The Artic and The Atlantic luxury cruise liner. I said in comments on the Artic.. if I was captain I'd out right shot my second in command. I resonantly saw new pictures of the Titanic BEFORE it sailed. In the new images.. I'm sorry to report it was out right murder of all those people on Titanic. Look it up!! It had a fire burning inside ship right where the ice burg hit on out side. And they all new before leaving 🤬 I'm thinking they should have Hybrid Luxury Cruise Lines. No humans driving. Completely over seen by satellite and whatever else.
@@JohnHall-uv2jm Search for this video: "Did the Titanic's Coal Fire Cause the Disaster? The Burning Question."
“No man is a hero under water…” i cant imagine the survivors guilt. But who could possibly blame him? I know I can’t. 😢
There are videos from the Sri Lanka tsunami in which 200,000 people died,, one of an American man and his wife who were above the flood water in a reinforced concrete hotel watching people go by,, screaming for help and totally helpless and her husband was going to go and jump, but she said no you'll be dead... She could only stop him from jumping over to help by saying,, don't leave me... They had to watch totally helpless as thousands of people went by their spot, floating away to their deaths... Absolutely horrible...
"Not one person is not a hero under water" - this is nonsense. The coward tried to justify himself. Read about Shavarsh Karapetyan.
@@marinayacenko3107How dare this person be terrified and want to live? Shame on him.
@@marinayacenko3107 Shavarsh Karapetyan and others like him are exceptional precisely because of how rare it is. Shavarsh was also an Olympian swimmer. There are many more stories of people trying to be heroes and getting themselves and others killed. Why do you think you're asked to put your own oxygen mask on before assisting others? At the end of the day, the only one you can truly be responsible for is yourself.
@@marinayacenko3107Easy to say when you're sat behind your computer screen where the only thing you have to worry about drowning in is cheeto dust.
My grandfather took me to that pier on a visit to Chicago when I was younger. He said “do you know what happened here?” I being younger said no and he simply responded with “Chicago cried but not loud enough to be remembered ” and never explained what he meant. Thanks for the explanation after all these years Caitlin!
That quote deserves to be the opening lines of a book!
That totally made me cry. You grandfather was very astute!
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That is a g'damn legendary quote.
Oof. Right in the feels.
Cops stopping people from helping while simultaneously doing nothing to help is a 100 year old story that still resonates.
and will resonate forever I imagine.
In America, cops are here to protect property and enforce laws. They are not here to help people.
Never ever forget that
Tale as old as time
@don't be surprised boo
Robb Elementary School being a very current example of that.
She does a real service in presenting the unvarnished story of death and dying and she does it respectfully. In no way does she ever sensationalize these events. She’s an educator of a difficult topic most of us prefer to avoid. It’s healthy to face it and appreciate the human story in all its facets. She’s the right messenger for those who are interested. Not many could pull this off with her experience and knowledge and a combination of grace and humor where appropriate. Kudos.
CZcams kicks a truly honest and talented content creator in the face and they falsely flag their content? SHAME ON THEM
Caitlin, we are here for you and your team! We love you to death. Keep up the hard work and never give up!
Is that what happened with Caitlin 😳 😕 🤔 .
Hadn't seen any new videos .
@@213_SANCH3Z .. She's got some but I bet she's pretty busy because funeral rites are changing fast,, post- c*vid... Ordinarily I'd think someone was being,, morbidly opportunistic,, for doing videos about death but she's so cool about it,, with the humor being peripheral and all courtesy and sensitivity given to the dearly departed that one can't help but feel,, this is a Calling and not primarily a business opportunity...
My great-grandmother was one of those 3 pregnant widows. My grandmother was born in February 1916. She was names Edros Henrietta - after her father Edward Henry Garner. Because my great-grandmother was pregnant she chose not to go on the company picnic. My GG lost the love of her life and never remarried. ❤
My deepest condolenses
That is so 😔 sad.
May her memory be a blessing
Very sad
What's your great grandmother's name? I'd like to know the name of the woman who loved Edward, and raised Edros, and complete the picture in my head. Sorry your family suffered through this. Edward is a family name in my family as well, all the boys have it as their middle name, so this stood out to me.
My grandfather was a mortician and owned a funeral home in Gary, Indiana when this happened. He was one of the ones that helped out in Chicago after this awful accident. I still have his star badge that he received for his assistance.
Kudos to your grandfather.
Your grandfather was a good man.
That's really awesome.
That's something I would love to see , that's so cool you have it
He was a hero. He probably helped so many families.
CZcams is ridiculous. This is a beautiful, well documented depiction of this tragic event. I’ve lived in Chicago my entire life and never learned about this tragedy. Thank you Caitlin for this history lesson.
CZcams isnt perfect and this video is still here. So the point is moot.
I attended school in Illinois during 1966 and we were taught about this in our 4th grade class and had a field trip to the various sites. Our teacher was one of the survivors. Never let the lessons learned be forgotten and never forget the people who gave their lives to teach us these lessons ❤
It's disgraceful that CZcams would censure creators/channel obviously interested in the enrichment of its viewers. This was a great piece of work. Thank you for being such a wonderful and committed creator. Welcome to the East Coast.. If you are ever in Philadelphia I'd happily buy you a cuppa tea.
Agreed. I'm very curious as to what exactly triggered it. Documentaries on youtube seems like an impossibility, yet the "big one" on Plutocracy is still up there.
Maybe time to consider copying all content over to alternative platforms? CZcams absolutely sucks as an "employer". No warning. No rights. No dialogue. No nothing.
Just unconditional and unregulated capitalism allowed to run amok. Most other countries have limits to what "private companies" can do. US? Absolutely nothing.
I'll share the news here... It's not CZcams.
The ad agencies unionized against CZcams, and now dictate the rules. The reason CZcams policy is so invisible is because they don't choose the policy. They do. They collation, CZcams jumps...
Federal copyright law as well as "protect the children" bills give these agencies teeth to threaten CZcams.
CZcams is forced to work for it's real customers: Ad Orgs. This is the cost of free.
Pay for you media.
Make that two cups if you’re in the Philly area. I’ll pitch in too!
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I just reviewed this video again myself and I don't see what CZcams is going on about saying she violated the community guidelines that is outside of a normal documentary. The only thing I saw was a very well put together documentary on a tragic event done with great respect To the memory of those who went through it.
Extremely weird of CZcams to restrict this video for not being educational when it is literally a documentary! And not a sensationalized documentary, but a really thoroughly researched and collaborative effort involving actual survivors, which is above and beyond lots of the documentaries and video essays I often enjoy (even here on CZcams). Like I love to watch someone simply telling a story, but this is a really thoughtful and thorough video!
I completely agree. It's an excellent documentary, like the kind I used to enjoy on the History Channel back when they still focused on history and facts.
Yes I am shocked that CZcams would restrict the video for no valid reason.
I’ve seen much worse stuff allowed on CZcams >:( it’s so annoying
They allow channels like Brightside to have their disgusting clixkbait but not this? I never got it
@@sabrinastratton1991 exactly! Brightside is total misinformation, but they have no problem with that!
That photo towards the end of the man with abject terror in his eyes as he cradles the limp body of a baby is beyond heartbreaking....thank you Caitlin for ensuring the story of the Eastland is not forgotten.
This story is amazing!! My grandfather (I am 71), was one of the men that helped people out of the water. My ancestors were people that did not talk about The Eastland. Thank you all the details and individual stories you put into these documentaries.
Shame on CZcams for flagging this. This was beautifully done. I honestly cried a few times during this story and it’s a shame this tragedy doesn’t get the recognition it deserves.
CZcams removes educational content as “gory” but keeps content like bleaching berries or making Fra tusk wood burning tools that can kill you.
I love how Caitlin is able to discuss tragedies in visceral detail while at the same time respecting the dignity and humanity of the victims
And with good humor. It's such a precious balance, and she nails it every time.
It’s take a lot of talent to balance that, and she does it well.
@don't be surprised boo
OMG She cut out the part when I walked up to her and asked for a hug and to sign my notebook :(
All while preaching her lefty views.
My grandmother's plans changed at the last minute, and she missed boarding the Eastland. It's amazing and chilling to think of the course of events( or not a course at all) if she hadn't been delayed in getting to the Eastland.
As someone who grew up in Chicago I can tell you that people in Chicago have not forgotten this tragedy.
So did I. The people I asked (who also grew up in Chicago) don't know about it. I hate to tell you but there are different experiences when one is white. Think about who was on the ship. I would say most people don't know about it enough to even forget it.
This doesn't appear to be shadow banned any more as it was once again recommended to me by CZcams. This is so important and needs to be talked about more often. Thank you for making this
Same, it was recommended to my feeds soon after i've watched Caitlin's video about this topic being restricted by YT's "Community Guidelines".
I'm glad an actual human in youtube, reverted the video back to its original status.
Her content is factual and respectful
@@BriarcastlePlays It’s currently less buried than it was a couple weeks ago, even for current subscribers.
Hoping to see confirmation of full guidelines strike reversal soon, if CZcams really fully reverses all aspects of the bot’s massive mistake and sends the confirmation/ apology to Caitlyn, I’ll stop skipping the ads when I periodically rewatch this incredibly educational documentary.
@@8S1ns It shouldn't have been taken down to begin with. And they never would have done anything had it not been cut the audience tweeting at youtube so much.
Ms Doughty is a master story-teller and documentarian. She provides her viewers with INFORMATIVE content; stories that are forgotten in time and need to be re-told. We are EDUCATED by Ms Doughty with every video she produces. She always respects her subject and cites her sources. CZcams is VERY LUCKY to count her as one of their creative content providers.
Disgraceful that CZcams would not allow these people to be properly remembered in the respectful and caring way you've put forth in this video:( Your team is doing amazing work
i find a spark of paranoia about exactly who went on such a mission to hide this amazing documentary
As a native Czech, thank you for this video. I knew about this but hearing someone to tell it such respectfully, thank you. And don't worry about the pronunciation. Our words are hard :)
Shame on CZcams for suppressing this. Such a well done, educational video. My partner lived in Wisconsin and Chicago his whole life and had no idea about this tragedy. Your ability to discuss death at such a mass scale with such care and respect is always amazing to me. Have all of your books & watch all of your videos. I hope this gets sorted for you.
I just got it in my recommended, so maybe CZcams undid their restriction.
Same, got it in my recommended maybe it's working again
I just saw this on my recommended list as well. I hope your video about youtube's mistaken censorship had an effect. I see the views have gone way up over 600K as well. Great job, wonderful, sensitive treatment of a difficult topic, as usual!
Same here, I wanted to actively look for this video after Jessie Gender mentioned that you were having similar problems than those she had with some of her videos, but there it was already in my recommendations. I hope Jessies video is, or will soon be back too.
I saw it in my recommended videos as well, even though I have already watched it twice.
I cant stop tearing up thinking about reggie bowles, the human frog. He was 18, he was *younger than i am*, and he pulled 40 bodies from the river. He may not have saved 40 people, but he changed more than 40 lives. Im glad he's being remembered. I hope he lived the rest of his life well.
He got married and had at least one kid who had another kid who lives to this day. His grandson is named David.
I wanted to hear his story. How did he become such a strong swimmer, what else did he go on to do, & did he live to be an old man?
Reggie caught typhoid disease from swimming in the sewer-polluted river. He lived an average life & died at 92
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Sounds like this information could easily become the start of a book, and then a movie about The Eastland, rather than the Titanic.
Soft g on the pronunciation of Reggie.
What a haunting story. And so beautifully and respectfully told.
such a tragic thing that happened but i really think this emphasizes "looking for the helpers" in these situations. it's incredible to hear how many people were willing to help.
My grandpa’s two sisters, age 16 and 17, perished in this tragedy. Thank you for bringing attention to it and for the educational value.
I'm so sorry for your family. That must have been horrific.
I'm sorry for your family's loss
I’m so sorry. And to think I live an hour & change away and I’d never heard of it.
An amazing re-telling of this story, thank you Caitlin. Unfortunately we are once again reminded that corporations aren't our friends, whether they're CZcams or the owners of the Eastland.
Just finished watching the video. I sat virtually motionless through most of it, shedding tears. I am 68 years old and had NEVER heard of this awful tragedy! Thank you for bringing this to so many people who did not know either. I for one will never forget.
Someone at youtube needs to be held accountable for such a blatant error in judgement. These souls need to be remembered and their loss mourned. This documentary was done in the most respectful way possible. You deserve an apology and this documentary needs to be on youtube so everyone remembers the tragedy.
Likely a fault in the algorithm but then they need to have a prompt and responsive infrastructure in place to address issues.
@@taylorkeith4400 Or just edit the algorithm! Such a shame that this will now be effectively buried like the original story has been. CZcams really needs to get it's collective s**t together. Pardon my French but this really claws at me.
@@A_nony_mous just some kind of solution really.
It's so incredibly upsetting that their memory is being buried AGAIN just when a team was specifically addressing this collective amnesia. It feels like "no good deed goes unpunished"!
And this video represents months of work which I have no doubt was gut-wrenching at times!
No reason to flag the documentary, what were they thinking?? It's very respectful and professional, you can see the amount of time and effort that went into making this. It makes you feel for the victims so much that I cried watching it.
This broke me, I cried the whole way through. My heart goes out to all those who suffered, who lost their lives, who had to live with the trauma and loss and may all of them be resting in true peace together again.
I hope that fireman (and others like him) managed to find some sort of peace and happiness in their lives after… ❤
Thank you Caitlin for sharing this story. I’m from Australia and have almost no ties to America yet I felt this no less strongly.
I will never forget this.
#neverforget #yourmidol
It's hard for first responders to process that. My brother pulled bodies out the water after the Taki-Tooo accident (off the Oregon coast). He had not spoken to our mom for years before that (they'd had a falling out) but he called her. He needed his momma, you know? He doesn't speak of it still. It was 20 years ago.
It saddens me that this video has been pushed back by CZcams when you and your colleagues worked so hard on it. It deserves twice the attention than it has gotten 🥺
Thank you. Please comment like and share as much as you can
That woman who put her baby on a deck chair and pushed it to safety and blowing a kiss goodbye was truly heartbreaking. 💔
I literally stopped what I was doing and just stared out in to the room with an open mouth. Never taking it for granted that my baby is safe and happy ❤️
And the teenager who had to be "arrested" just so he would take a break from recovering bodies 😟
The one that really got me was the firefighter who found his daughter was one of the deceased 😭
It reminded me of Naya Rivera. As a mother I can’t imagine the grief of knowing this is your last goodbye. 😢
I wanted to know if the baby made it out to safety
Odds are that their entire family was on the boat, and possibly died
Hopefully a someone managed to grab the baby from the water and got them to safety...
I just found this video and had to click on it immediately. I wrote a paper and did a project about the Eastland disaster when I was in high school in Chicago. I was amazed that no one had ever mentioned it in our history classes and decided that I would. The story has stuck with me all these years and I am so happy that others are now speaking about it and trying to preserve the memories of those involved.
Watching this again because this didn't deserve to get buried like it did. I hope it will eventually crack that 1 mil views!!
Caitlin, I love this video. It's insane to me that youtube has falsely labelled this video as having violated community guidelines. The first thought I had after finishing this video the first time around was "Wow. Why have I never learned about this before?" You TAUGHT me about this disaster. EDUCATED me on this tragedy whereas I would have otherwise never found out about it. So thank you everyone behind this video! Amazing, hard working and dedicated people behind the scenes!
I’m specifically making tons of comments to increase engagement on this video.
@@taylorkeith4400 hear, hear. I am also sharing and asking others who want to share directly from channel. 😉
I saw nothing that would violate community standards. It had no gore, violent imagery. I was more disturbed by the accounts of the police holding the people back from rescuing passengers. Caitlin provided a needed look at the past.
Apparently not educational but how many CZcams videos do you see with a literal works cited in the description? Ridiculous.
It's almost like CZcams doesn't know the definition educational material!
My great-grandparents were children of Bohemian immigrants. When they moved from rural Grundy county Illinois to Chicago in 1919 with my grandmother, who was only two at the time, their neighbor was a survivor of the Eastland. She taught my grandmother to swim because she lost her own daughter on the Eastland. Her daughter was just two years old when she died.
Reading this comment hits me like a brick after seeing Caitlin's humble (yet impressive) document about the tragedy. May God have and reunite their souls 😢♥🙏
I have a two year old daughter, and I can't stop crying. The pain she must have felt for the rest of her life.
This is awful...
@@SableRain I always cry when I hear about horrible things that happened to children. My son is 30 now, but he was kidnapped at 14 months and was missing for a year. Worst time of my life, and his too. I'm glad he can't remember what happened to him, but his PTSD affected him for life all the same.
police blocking people from helping 100 years ago (or the Texas school hijacking) is ridiculous. Police forget they are Servants of the People not our masters
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Thank you for this excellent video on the Eastland disaster of 1915 in Chicago. I forget the Czech word for "family burial plot" but lots of family plots got filled after this disaster. I see no reason for CZcams to have flagged this video except someone somewhere made a terrible bad mistake. This video is an educational video that would take a book or two of reading to acquire all the information contained in the video. I have been a history student all of my adult life. I have seen numerous documentaries on CZcams about the Eastland disaster. I study disasters, especially maritime disasters.
We can see many similarities between the Eastland disaster of 1915 and the Sultana riverboat explosion of 1865. The Sultana riverboat explosion occurred in April, 1865. The Sultana exploded about six miles north of Memphis. The Mississippi River has shifted so the spot where the explosion happened is now in a farmer's field. But the point here is 1800 plus people died on the Sultana. The worst part was most of the passengers on the Sultana were Union soldiers who had been prisoners of war at Andersonville and other notorious Confederate camps. The captain of the Sultana was paid PER SOLDIER and MORE FOR AN OFFICER. However, the Sultana had had boiler problems in bad need of a major overhaul and serious inspection. Instead, piece meal patchwork repairs were made on the boilers because the captain of the Sultana did NOT want to miss his windfall to make a small fortune hauling prisoners home. We see the cost of greed here in both the Sultana and the Eastland disasters share greed, negligence and the fact no one was ever held accountable. The Sultana captain was killed and other Union officers involved resigned grom the service or escaped court martial. So trials seldom bring justice to the victim's families when the disaster is a huge one.
Few people except history students know about the Sultana disaster. President Lincoln's funeral train was coming home to Illinois at the same time. The Civil War had just ended in the East and the Lincoln conspirators were being rounded up by Union authorities. It is so sad that our history textbooks almost never mention the 1800 plus soldiers and civilian women and children who perished on the Sultana disaster. Few memorials and few reminders exist today to tell the story. It is ironic that many of the Union soldiers who were saved were pulled out of the water by Confederate veterans. Something has to happen to make a disaster iconic. Neither the Sultana disaster, the Eastland or other steamboat disasters like the hundreds killed on the Lady Elgin steamer on Lake Michigan in 1860 made it to the "iconic" stage. However, the victims and their families deserve to be remembered for what happened to them and for any lessons history can teach us to prevent other disasters in the future.
family burial plot = rodinný hrob / rodinná hrobka
@@KikMa93 Thank you.
Thank you for sharing Rex. Now I and many others have known a little bit about the hidden history of those disasters. I've never heard about them before. I do believe storytelling content creators will cover these stories in the future because of the barely known factor. I mean their stories are underexposed as much as the Titanic story is overexposed. All of these disasters should be remembered and learned from so it won't happen again. Again thank you and God bless you.
I’ve seen your comment almost 6 months later but I want to thank you for sharing the story of Sultana and it’s victims. I’ve never been in USA but my heart breaks the same. It’s morbid to say but I almost wish they had a quick passing as imagining otherwise is torturous. I hope wherever they are now they’re at peace.
Here is a video on the Sultana disaster of April, 1865. One note here is recent scholarship seems to support the concept that the steel used in the boilers of 1850's/1860's steam river boats was inadequate and brittle to deal the high pressures in the boilers. MANY boilers of steamboats of this era exploded on the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers including the Great Lakes steamboats of this era. American engineering understanding of thermodynamics and steel quality improved markedly reducing boiler explosions. The human factors aside, all the passengers and crew on the Sultana were doomed.
czcams.com/video/5DLKI4VltuE/video.html
I felt that this did not violate community guidelines and was so good to be remembered. Thank you for producing it.
I'm back here again after Caitlyn said this video breached community guidlines and I just want to say to everyone who worked on this that I will do my best to share this video because it is such an important story. I really hope that you are still able to keep making death positive content because, while I am a new fan of the channel, I have always wanted to know more and so long as you make the content I'm sure myself and other death positivity advocates will stand with you.
Thank you Zoe-Lisa Walton for doing what you can, I am just a fan of Caitlyns channel and all involved with it and appreciate what you are doing.
Agreed. I'm especially interested now because my mother grew up in Chicago. I'll be showing this to her at the first opportunity.
I am too!
How in the hell does this breach guidelines? It's an historical video.
Thank you very much for this. My great auntie survived the Eastland Disaster at age eight. She lived to be one month shy of 100 years old and was the last survivor alive at that time. You may have come across her interviews in your research. My family is of Bohemian descent and my auntie lived in Cicero for the whole of her life. I’m so grateful she survived.
That's amazing. Did she ever talk about it to you?
Yes, she did, and her memories of it remained sharp. She told me of seeing desperate faces in the portholes as she was lifted onto the dock.
Wow! Glad your Aunt survived and cannot imagine going through that
I’m so glad you had her and that she survived this awful tragedy!!! I had never heard about this at all!!! It’s so extremely sad and tragic!!!
my family is czech and my great aunt was also in chicago at the same time, but she was about 14, that must have been terrifying for your great auntie, and I wouldn't have been surprised if my great aunt had known people involved in the incident because she was living in the czech community at the time
Thank you Caitlin for bringing forgotten people to light.
This is the best historical depiction of this disaster ever told. The quality of this documentary is unsurpassed. The amount of detail in this production is just off the charts amazing. Caitlin they're not forgotten they will live on in this historical masterpiece.
My great aunt worked for Western Electric. She and my grandfather, her brother, were to be on the Eastland that day. My mother said my aunt was late, as per her usual, so they didn't arrive on time. I am here are living proof that being late isn't always a bad thing. I think my grandfather always kept the killed in his prayers everyday. Like all the others he never spoke about it.
My husband was always late for everything-
I saw an interview with someone who missed their flight on 9/11 what a wild world we live in.
My grandmother and aunt were to be on that excursion. Fortunately, they did not go.
This silence is not only for self preservation, but to let dead dogs lay. I am indigenous American. We you learn, don't ask don't tell or you suffer the consequences.
GOD had other plans.
How can this video be accused of ‘violating’ anything???? It is a heartfelt memorial to the thousands who died that day and I commend you for the sensitivity you brought to it. Thank you Caitlin and your team.
CZcams doesn't like good content. It's almost like it wants people to be dumb...
@@Raissa_MSousa And as for educational intent, I can honestly say it was educational for me.
All it takes is enough ignorant (likely butt hurt) people reporting it, unfortunate...
& For the record Tweeting @CZcams does actually help, regardless of if they know who the creator is or not. Twitter is actually the best way to get their attention. When through this trying to help Heels in the Air not long ago & Brunt Toast before that. It works! They had their entire channel suspended & not just a warning & shadow ban. Just saying
This is my third time watching this. It's one of my favorites by you and it's so infuriating that CZcams tried to kill it. I love local history, and it was incredible to learn about something this major happening in my state that I had never heard about. I actually visited the site of the Eastland disaster when I was in Chicago last month. It was such a somber place; I ended up just sitting there for a few minutes and processing everything.
Such an amazing and sad story, and well told. All those young lives lost on what was meant to be an enjoyable day out. Being in the UK I've never heard of this tragedy before...a massive thank you for educating me.
I cannot believe CZcams have a problem with this. This tragic event was handled in a reverent and sensitive way. There was nothing gratuitous, nothing sensational, nothing gruesome, this was a factual and sympathetic summation of the facts surrounding this terrible tragedy. It's an absolute travesty that you've been treated this way by CZcams. If you do decide to use an alternative platform, I, and I suspect most of your subscribers, will follow you there. Keep up the good work.
I’m watching this again because CZcams doesn’t seem to understand how educational you have always been and all the hard work everyone put into this it’s so professional
Me to x
There is so much in the video, I find new nuance each time I watch it.
This is an incredibly important EDUCATIONAL DOCUMENTARY that portrays the Eastland Disaster with care, respect, and professionalism. Good work, Caitlyn and crew! You hit this one out of the park, and YT’s dumb algorithm blew it entirely by mislabeling this fascinating content.
This was absolutely heart wrenching to watch, but thank you to every person involved in making this because these stories truly do need to be remembered. I grew up near Chicago and never even heard of this before today and that is a shame. What's even more shameful is that CZcams tried to bury this, especially with the aim being to make sure this story isn't completely lost to time. Thank you Caitlin for all that you and your team do
I must weigh in here, given the recent YT designation: I found this documentary to be EDUCATIONAL, INFORMATIVE, and most importantly, was produced with the utmost respect to the victims and families of this tragic event. One can tell a lot of work went into this video, and, as an observer of history, I found this documentary to be EDUCATIONAL and INFORMATIVE. Period.
I agree!! Very educational!!
Here here!
This is, without sass, the most educational and informative documentary I have seen in ages. And I've searched. And on top of that, it's respectful.
I just completely broke down at the sisters who had to be pallbearers at their friends funerals instead of bridesmaids. That's devastating
That line is absolutely what got me
It's devastating but also gives a sense of comfort because the six of them shared an unforgettable day/ceramony with the girls especially being the ones to help carry the caskets which usually isn't done by friends and family for what I know
@@katewuzhere3794 for me it's important because I got to be the only female pallbarer for both my maternal grandparents and only wasn't for my paternal geandmother because it was under covid restrictions during lockdown x
It got me too. Heartbreaking.
Yup that broke me too
An excellent documentary on the SS Eastland. I'm ashamed to say that I was not really aware of this tragedy. Thank you for creating this video and not letting the people who died, to have died in vain.
I'm rewatching tonight because I went by the memorial this afternoon. Felt surreal standing in a spot where 800 plus people were gone in a matter of minutes.
This video is both respectfully done and educational. CZcams's decision to censor it makes absolutely no sense. Thank you for shining a light on this tragic event and for all the educational work you do on your channel!
Agreed!
100% agree ❤️❤️
What an EDUCATIONAL video! I have learned so much about the SS Eastland because of how EDUCATIONAL this video is. This video truly does pay tribute to those who tragically lost their lives to this accident and I am grateful to the many people that spent months working on it. I am sure the victims and family members of the victims are glad that their story is being told in an EDUCATIONAL MANNER. Keep up the great work Kaitlyn and friends!
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Exactly! Completely agree. It is the very definition of EDUCATIONAL! And so well and respectfully done. Shame on CZcams for trying to censure it. It warms my heart to see so many here commenting the opposite of CZcams's very wrong verdict.
im stoked to be EDUCATED, thank goodness this EDUCATIONAL video is still available!
I have been EDUCATED today!
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As a fellow medievalist and history lover, I love this documentary-style production. This is respectful, engaging, well-researched, and educational. Thank you for working so hard to create this content.
My grandfather was adamant that I and my brother learn how to swim and made our mom take us to swim lessons. He said it was a survival skill everyone should know because you never know when you're going to need it. Idk why but that always stuck with me and was part of why I ended up developing such a love of swimming.
What a beautiful tribute to the victims of this historic tragedy. I am so proud of this channel. This is what I wish more of CZcams was like. I don't need more makeup gurus, prank videos, or consumerism-based vlogs. Thank you for making quality content that is timeless. Educational content with this level of care and attention to historic fact and cultural significance should NOT because censored or removed.
I’m so sorry that this was silenced by CZcams. A lot of the old school CZcamsrs have thankfully been bringing attention to this and the major issues surrounding the lack of transparency from CZcams. This was such a well done video, and I really hope we can continue getting such fantastic content from yourself. Stay strong, Caitlin!
It reminds me of when Ann Reardon's well-researched video warning of the extreme dangers of fractal wood burning was removed by YT, but none of the videos showing how to do it were. It makes me ask "who are the people who make these decisions and do they even Watch the videos in question?"
@@daisukidatotoro That's the catch. There are no "people" at all. It's so much more cost effective if everything is handled by autobots. Including the "appeal" process (see: "breads and circuses"). Unless it's somehow cheaper for them to actually give a damn about anything except $$$ - they have no incentive to change anything.
it obviously wasn't silenced because you and I are both here. They just got a violation for it
@@Kittie28 which is absurd.
@@Kittie28 part of that is the video doesnt go into recomended and isnt promoted by the algorythm anymore. It hasnt been taken down but it isnt getting the reach that it could be.
It’s so ironic because I just recently discovered your channel, and what drew me to it was the incredible job you do telling stories and educating me on history others overlook. I hope you will keep doing what you do and don’t let the ill informed and ill intended get you down!
My grandfather worked for Western Electric in Hawthorne. While Western Electric didn't force the employees to go, according to relatives, the leadership of the social club "strongly encouraged" workers to go. My grandfather had to help identify the dead. This was so upsetting to him, he left Chicago permanently.
I was born and raised in Chicago and have known about the Eastland. This is a great documentary that tells it like it is and does not deserve the treatment it's getting. It's real life, not a Hollywood movie. You did a wonderful job, Caitlyn. Thank you for keeping their memories alive.
Same! I was thrilled the ask a mortician team was here researching this. They did excellent job! Sad that CZcams flagged it.
I’m 70 years old, raised on my mother’s Western Electric salary and benefits. I went to many annual company picnics in Indianapolis and they were a great company to work for. I’m surprised I never heard of the Eastland tragedy. Thank you Katelyn.
I would guess part of why people didn't talk about this disaster might actually be because the company was good to them, good to work for. Like she said, it's not too often we hear of a company simply doing things without having to be begged. Funerals, and the traditions we share with our communities about how we share grief and mourn together, go far toward helping people begin to heal. People knew who was at fault, the captain was being publicly vile the hour it happened. Not a lot of scandal or disregarded anger left to fester. I can't imagine how it would have felt to have all those neighbors grieving in all those houses with doors open.... I think it went a long way that the company made sure everyone had funeral costs and arrangements accessible. A lot of the disasters we know about, it feels like victims have been fighting for decades to even find out how they got hurt or who actually is responsible. Often neglected by their systems and dismissed. No one had to hold onto the story like that here
@Jens Nobel I hope they find the Copenhagen someday. RIP💕
@@sandramariesolander me too
The power of a good pr team
Hey Caitlin et al! Just to let you know, this video doesn’t appear to be being suppressed any more. I live in the U.K. & recently started watching your channel & last week I watched this video as it was on a suggested videos list when I opened your “ask a mortician” page! So fingers crossed they have now removed the ban! I love your content & I find it really interesting! Thanks for doing what you do!
I live a few blocks from the river and I've passed that exact spot thousands of times and had no idea about this happening... This city is full of so much history I'm completely ignorant of
Just got here from the video about this documentary being buried by YT. Such a shame for that! This is one of the best documentaries I've seen. Educational, engaging and respectful. Thank you so much for continuing this kind of work, Caitlyn! I would have never found out about this event without it. Hoping these kind of documentaries can still continue
💯 agree!
I came here specifically because of your other video about this one being shadow banned. Incredibly moving narrative of what happened that day, and I can definitely say I'd never heard of the Eastland before. Thank you for digging up the story and spreading it the best way you can. (Also, happy to hear you'll be moving to the east coast! You and your content are a big reason I'm heading into school to become a grief counselor!)
I wish you well and pay you great respect for the path you're going on; we need more people like you, and with mental health not being taken as seriously as it should be in a lot of places (the Twilight Zone of the East Coast is my home, not by choice, and getting help with my mental health has been a frustrating, nightmarish fight)...I just wish more people got the help they needed. So again, thank you for wanting to help those that are struggling.
Me too! I actually did hear about this disaster in passing on a history channel documentary about disasters following the Titanic but this was more in depth and humanizing. Thank you!
Same!
I came here thinking the gore must be bad if this video was flagged. It wasn't, we were shown what needed to be shown of the disaster, no self indulgent graphics or jokes, just facts about what happened and the people involved. Shame on CZcams for flagging this, this video is masterful.
I'm a year late, but I will continue. My grandmother was born in 1903. For some reason, (and sadly, I can't ask her) she was there by the water when the Eastland went down. She was 12 years old. For the rest of her life (she lived to be 85) she was haunted by what she saw there. She rarely talked about it, but when she did, she usually ended up in tears. What a tragedy!
I just found out that YT decided that history is not to be watched by anyone. I often wonder if YT even watches the videos they strike. I just started watching your videos, I think you are great!
Edit: after watching the entire video, I still do not see any reason for this video to be taken down by YT.
Coming here to boost engagement after your most recent video. This documentary is an absolutely glorious tribute to the victims and responsible and EDUCATIONAL history, and I’m so sorry CZcams is giving you problems.
It was extremely educational. The few photographs of bodies they showed were for educational purposes only, and not “gory” in the slightest. This is incredibly respectful to the victims, the survivor’s descendants, and an overall fantastic look into a hidden tragedy in US history.
I agree. If other videos can show victims of the Titanic sinking or the horrors we all saw on 9/11 and it's considered educational and historically valuable, what is the difference here?
I'll share the news here... It's not CZcams.
The ad agencies unionized against CZcams, and now dictate the rules. The reason CZcams policy is so invisible is because they don't choose the policy. They do. They collation, CZcams jumps...
Federal copyright law as well as "protect the children" bills give these agencies teeth to threaten CZcams.
CZcams is forced to work for it's real customers: Ad Orgs. This is the cost of free.
Pay for you media.
I did the same, it's such a shame you tube is penalizing this thoughtfull and yes educational video.
Same!
I have been so roundly EDUCATED by this video I can hardly believe it. The way you guys EDUCATED the viewer about how a heartless and clueless corporate entity can do some of the worst things and still not care is amazing. This video is so EDUCATIONAL on the subjects of shipwrecks, tragedy and oversight it should be at the top of the recommended, fully monetized and held up as an example of how good, well made and EDUCATIONAL some CZcams channels can be.
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The real MVP!🙌😉
I agree, what an EDUCATIONAL and respectful video
I'm sensing a theme here....and yes I know why
Louder for the people in the back!
I was a lifeguard for 5 years, and in training they teach you how to slip out of someone's grasp, because even when you're a strong swimmer, someone grabbing onto you can be deadly. The mentality was always "you need to be able to stay alive if you're going to be able to help others"
I remember learning about this in my gym class when I was about 14. We were taught to have the life ring between us and the one we were saving because someone who is drowning will (understandably) grab onto anything to stay alive.
@@katlasdahgreat My dad drummed that into us as kids too. As a teenager, his sister almost drowned because she tried to help another girl who was drowning. In her panic, that other girl basically tried to climb on top of her and was pulling them both down. Very fortunately, a couple nearby saw what was happening and came over with an air mattress which saved them both.
@@katlasdahgreat I'm glad you said "understandably", because I do hear plenty of people quoting the phenomenon of drowning people dragging down other victims or rescuers, and suggesting that THEY wouldn't be as foolish or selfish in that situation. Realistically nobody is in control of themselves while suffocating, and certainty not capable of assessing the situation objectively or morally. I just don't believe anyone who is actively dying that way could think "my death is probabalistically nearly certain, and by grabbing this other person I would not only be greatly reducing their chances of survival, but it would absolutely be a bad look for me if we both die". And of course even if you knew that clinging to someone would greatly reduce their chances of survival, and somehow had the presence of mind to make that calculation, you might still understandably choose that risk over the screaming pain in your lungs... because pain (and the death that often follows extreme pain) is a horrible thing that humans have evolved to fear and avoid.
I hate to add this to the mix, but I was taught that if someone gets to violent, to punch them in the face or head, knocking them out. Then dragging them to shore. I've only had to do it once and it was heartbreakingly terrifying because you are dragging a lifeless person. But, it was either that or die trying to save them.
When scuba diving, you are taught to fill the vest with air and kick or push the person away. You also drop their weight belt and let them float to the surface. But all of this is in open water. I can't imagine having furniture, hundreds of people, and pollution to contend with.
First thing I was always taught when doing any first aid, medical, or rescue was don't become another victim.
This certainly does not violate the community standards. Everything is educational and the only bodies shown were in pictures. This topic needs to be discussed more because nothing about it was ever taught when I was in school and I graduated in 2011. No warnings were given about it. We barely learned about the Titanic. I learned more about the Titanic from the movie than from school. If anything, we need more videos from Ask A Mortician than less because there is no one else that we can really go to for free for questions or information about such an important topic. So please CZcams, let her be in peace. She barely cusses, which you e even relaxed your rules about, and the public needs this information. Please make more videos if you have the time Miss Caitlin! I love your videos and love the Death positive movement!
I’m glad they put this back up.
This is heartbreaking and extremely EDUCATIONAL. I feel like this story is so overwhelmingly tragic, and an additional part of that tragedy has been the fact that it isn't nearly as talked about as it should be. I have been seriously EDUCATED by this DOCUMENTARY.
Fell into this channel when my grandpa died and I was researching what embalming actually entailed, and it also changed my perspective on death so much - I'd never lost a close family member before. Death positivity is something everyone ought to embrace.
I've been EDUCATED for so many years about a subject so few have the knowledge, expertise or compassion to talk about, and it's a shame that CZcams is punishing creators like Caitlin and the Ask a Mortician team, without even manually verifying anything, or replying properly to appeals.
Again, want to reiterate how this is one of the most EDUCATIONAL goddamn channels on the platform.
I too enjoy this EDUCATIONAL content! 🙂
👩🏻🏫⬅️(Caitlin)
Hypothetically, if someone were to accuse this channel, and especially this video, of not being EDUCATIONAL, well, then I'd believe their very smooth brain -or algorithm- is broken. 😋
Well stated. Especially the last line.
I really hope this video doesn't get removed. It was so informative and EDUCATIONAL and a fascinating, tragic topic that I'd never heard of! It's amazing to hear from family members of victims and true experts of the topic. I can't believe CZcams had the gall, the absolute audacity, to say this video wasn't educational.
Incredible work by everyone involved with this documentary. I was born and raised in Chicago and had never heard of this tragedy until today.
Wttw channel 11 did a documentary years ago.
Shame on CZcams for flagging this educational and informative video. I did not know about this tragedy until seeing this video
This is the kind of content the internet was made for, I feel. Stories that need to stay alive, stories that need to be remembered, treated with the dignity and respect they deserve. You're doing an amazing job, ma'am.
Well said.
I love that you're covering less well-known stories, they are often more interesting than some of the popular ones
Edit: that Ted reveal was great
(to OP) I agree, totally! :)
@don't be surprised The post I'm replying to is a click farmer who makes money by driving traffic to the posted video. Please downvote and report commercial spam.
Everything before 1980 is a ‘less well know story’
@@debbylou5729 Unless you were born in the 70's, 80's, or early 90's and have family who like to talk about history...
@@debbylou5729 HHHolmes, the Chicago Fire are well known, as are some other disasters. But many are lost to history that’s why it’s important we keep these stories alive to keep their lessons from being forgotten
this is so crazy; I've only heard of this disaster in passing and with the context that it was passengers all rushing to one side that doomed them. It was when I was a kid, and as sort of a "don't be stupid" warning. :/
Now that I'm an adult and aware of just how often people blame the victims of tragedy (especially when there are larger issues woven in to the cause, or a loss of profit is involved) I'm really shocked that this one story stayed in the back of my mind, uncorrected. Thank you for covering this, truly.
The Museum Ship Valley Camp in Sault Ste Marie, Michigan, has some history on the SS Eastland. I read about it over this past summer. Thank you for elaborating in more detail. The victims of this tragedy should not be forgotten
I'm Czech and I have never heard of this disaster. Seeing the tombstones and funeral records written in my language and all the familiar first and last names hit very close to home for me. It really humanized the people that lost their lives and the lives of their loved ones... For a moment I felt like I've just lost a close relative. Thank you Caitlin for sharing this story with us. My prayers go to the surviving families...
I'm Czech and I have never heard about this neither. I am deeply touched by this video because the girl from the story of two engaged young people had the same family name as I do. Have to start my own research. I feel shaken by this whole story. Thank you for sharing!!!
I grew up and live a few hours away from this city, have been to Chicago a few times, and I've never heard of this! Why is this not taught more...
Heck there is a part of Chicago called Pilsen!
Same over here 💔
My paternal grandmother's maiden name was Radek and her father was from Prague. He immigrated to Chicago in the late 1800s where my grandmother was born. This story now has me wondering about the Czech citizens who died on the ship.
Wow, I am being EDUCATED for the second time about the short comings of law enforcement and non-graphic display of bodies WITH EDUCATIONAL INTENT because I am an adult capable of making my own decisions about what I watch on CZcams and I choose to watch this incredible video by this incredible channel who took so much time and care to make this piece, even if it's slightly grim! Love you guys! Great video!
This is one of the finest documentaries ever produced for CZcams.
I’m shocked that I’ve never heard of this tragedy, it’s strange to me how some tragedies have 100 years of airtime such as the titanic, and this has been so under wraps. Absolutely heartbreaking that so many young people lost their lives in this way, a completely avoidable incident. I’ve only recently found your channel, and watched the CZcams community guidelines video before, but thank you for what you do. This is the most sensitive and educational documentary I’ve seen on here. Keep doing what you’re doing!
When I was a young kid, I had a relative who worked at Western Electric at the time, and who had planned to go on that excursion. On the day of the sailing, some friends of his convinced his to go with them down to Montrose Beach to chase girls. When he got home, his parents were relieved that he wasn't dead. He hadn't heard of the disaster.
That must have been the longest day of their lives
As a former Mortician, I appreciate your channel being here. I am not as up-to-date as you so it's nice to have reliable, educational, and tactfully done content to share with curious minds.
Shame on CZcams for censoring this perfectly appropriate historical content. There is nothing sordid or exploitive about this video, it is educational and important to understand why disasters happen and remember the victims.
Caitlin this documentary was excellent. You told the story of the Eastland so respectfully and you clearly did your research. I had never heard about this disaster before and can't fathom why. What I also can't fathom is why CZcams has such an issue with this documentary. I can't see anything about it at all that was the least bit contentious. I hope you don't allow their views to discourage you from producing documentaries like this in the future. Well done.
I’ve lived in Chicago for almost 30 years, walked past the Lasalle Bridge and have never heard of this disaster. Thank you for this well made video and respectful storytelling- I’ll be sure to visit the memorial site.
It’s a damn shame that CZcams decided that this video needs to be flagged and demonetized. You put so much work into this documentary.
@Eastland Disaster Historical Society I’m an Australian with almost no American ties but Caitlin’s video had me in tears.
I will remember this story for years to come, not just because of the devastation of it all but also for the way people came together, giving all they had to save those they could and recover those they could.
This disaster should be heard on a global scale. May the victims and their families and friends be resting together again in peace.
I grew up in the Midwest and never heard of it, either. How shocking and tragic this is. Caitlin and her team did a great job on this documentary.
I just watched it and glad I was able to. Not sure why it would be flagged but glad it’s still here.
@@maddscott833I'd heard vaguely about it but I thought it was a ship sunk by a U-boat... Seeing the truth that it was a completely preventable tragedy that didn't even happen in the ocean but right next to an urban dock is extremely maddening to me... The criminals who took money for passengers on that ship should have been hung,, any sensible Maritime engineer could tell that the ship was total dogshit and shouldn't be hauling freight let alone people... They packed it way beyond capacity because they could get more money and weren't overly concerned about the passengers seeing as how they were only industrial workers and their families...
Wait .... what? Demonetized? Why?
I don't really understand the inner workings of CZcams. I rarely post videos, but when I do, it's just stuff that my friends and family would enjoy. I don't care about clicks, but I'm aware that posting content on CZcams can be a pretty lucrative gig for those who are willing to put the work into their videos. I can't imagine why a video with over a million views - made by a creator of high quality content - would be demonetized. This woman's CZcams channel brings in millions of views, upvotes, and lots of engagement. She obviously puts a lot of work into her content. Not only is this video phenomenal - everything she creates is phenomenal. Surely she brings in a lot of ad revenue for CZcams, so why would they not allow her to be compensated for her work? That is so messed up!
Caitlin always deals with these tragedies with class without sparing details. This channel is another jewel in the YT crown.
It used to be before she started pumping politics into literally every video.
and she includes details without sensationalising them!
@@Dhdjksjsnsnsnnsnsna Yea! spot on! 😁
She's the type person that if you worked for her, you'd get up looking forward to work everyday...even though it's a funeral home!! Lol!
@@clray123 I haven't noticed that at all. She's giving factual information, and sometimes politics is entwined with the story.
Seems this censorship goes beyond the internet. Some sort of coverup from this event.
This is one of the most educational productions I've seen on CZcams- especially since I've studied a lot of history, but NEVER heard of the Eastland. Here's to the survivors of this disaster, and rest in peace to those who have long since died. How do you prevent the showing of a documentary like this? Good, good, good work Ms Mortician.
The inscription written by the young girl’s father really hit me. Can’t imagine what he was feeling when he wrote that.
Anger, resentment, unbelievable pain and grief……….
It's something no one would ever want to feel
He was probably feeling the same thing that most people who have gone through a wrongful death suit when greed was the cause. Downhomesunset is right. Anger, resentment, unbelievable pain and grief…
@@sunflower9611 Not comparable to some people, but I did have a beloved dog that got poisoned by a neighbour. He threatened that he was going to do it; I reported it to the police and they went and “talked” to him. I experienced those feelings as I desperately tried to give Brooke CPR, but she died in my arms. I was grieving so loudly that a passerby called the police, and the officer who reassured me that nothing would happen responded.
I could not imagine losing a human being to someone else’s lack of care for lives.
@@downhomesunset I am so sorry this happened to you. This is my worst nightmare. Animals have such a strong soul that they almost feel human. I hope you’re doing better now. Your neighbor is literally trash for doing that.