The Most Hated Product In Home Electrical

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  • @86donkeys
    @86donkeys Před rokem +255

    I've never encountered an a TR outlet that didn't require an unreasonable amount of force to plug into it. Fighting me on something as mundane as plugging in a coffee grinder when all I want is my damn coffee makes me furious.

    • @thekidinthecorner123
      @thekidinthecorner123 Před rokem +7

      Yeah same here. He’s likes making it seem like a huge problem but it’s really not.

    • @rivernet62
      @rivernet62 Před rokem +6

      You probably don’t need TR on a kitchen counter

    • @chrisclinton1649
      @chrisclinton1649 Před rokem +5

      Wiggle it while you push.
      Problem eased.

    • @TheHavocdog
      @TheHavocdog Před rokem +15

      Why would I buy something that prevents me from using the primary function of the product?
      Most of the time, the protective system is binding me and preventing its use.
      It would be the same as buying a car, but the brakes are engaged most of the time. Sell me a device that has a system that works, and I will buy it.

    • @thekidinthecorner123
      @thekidinthecorner123 Před rokem +1

      @@TheHavocdog it’s not an issue, get some and find out.

  • @RebeccaRaven
    @RebeccaRaven Před rokem +167

    I'm an old and TR outlets are so much harder to put a plug into. My hands and fingers aren't strong enough an it hurts my joints to try to work the plug into them. Also, the electrical boxes in my house aren't very deep. Some of these new features make the outlet so clunky, they just won't fit. Switches with timers, wireless-enabled, outlets with USB added...they won't fit in my old metal boxes.
    I won't be putting a bobby pin into an outlet anytime soon; I've lived in my 1951 rambler for almost 30 years and I'll let the new owner put them in if they need them.

    • @tunafish3216
      @tunafish3216 Před rokem +7

      I used to put Bobby pins in the outlets when I was a small kid, I liked the way they sparked.

    • @ailivac
      @ailivac Před rokem +5

      It's feature you have to design in from the start, like they did with BS1363, for it to have any hope of working right. And despite all of its flaws, NEMA 1-15/5-15 is never ever ever ever ever EVER going away. We can't even use a similar mechanism using the ground pin because almost all appliances are ungrounded unless the manufacturer really couldn't come up with a double insulated design. So any TR implementations for us will always be avoided whenever possible and never work well in the few places they're used.

    • @daleatkin8927
      @daleatkin8927 Před rokem +8

      I think the key with TR outlets is getting used to them. You have to put the plug in perfectly square. If you are at a slight angle, then it can take a lot of force to insert the plug.

    • @Pallidus_Rider
      @Pallidus_Rider Před rokem +7

      I have same problem. A combination of arthritis and mild parkinson's make using outlets harder with each passing year

    • @AgentOffice
      @AgentOffice Před rokem

      @@daleatkin8927 I've had better luck going in at an angle

  • @naubaucat
    @naubaucat Před rokem +210

    I had five kids, and they are all grown now. I used those plastic plugs, and I never had any problems. If you don't want to change your outlet get the plugs. They are cheap, and effective.

    • @marksreviewsandrants8554
      @marksreviewsandrants8554 Před rokem +6

      Same here, except I have 3 grown kids,we used the door knob things too,and the cabinet locks.

    • @samjones1954
      @samjones1954 Před rokem +8

      better question, did any of your kids remove a plastic plug? Or did they know that playing with plugs is like playing with cars on the highway? Kids are not stupid, but it seems adults are who make it really hard for us to plug a plug into an outlet.

    • @maxshiraz3447
      @maxshiraz3447 Před rokem +7

      Yes, that's clearly the best solution. Those plastic plugs are impossible for. a young kid to extract

    • @agcons
      @agcons Před rokem +7

      @@samjones1954 There were no tamper-resistant outlets or plastic plugs when I was of an "experimental" age. I remember my parents keeping a keen eye out and being removed from in front of an outlet twice - I could not have been more than three years old. Yes, I had a house key all ready to insert on both occasions.
      I also remember being talked to very sternly about how dangerous that was, and I left them alone after that. The stern talk didn't scar me for life, either, because I did not become afraid of outlets, just very respectful.

    • @samjones1954
      @samjones1954 Před rokem +5

      @@agcons me too.. my mom just told me that I would get hurt if I did that. Never did till I was a teenager and was learning electronics and electricity, but I knew what I was doing and knew where the dangers are.

  • @dwaineruthannarmentrout1811

    I like that you disassembled the outlet to better explain and show how the TR feature works or doesn't. Thanks for bringing this to light. I also don't choose the TR outlets to install because I feel like I have to fight the outlet each time I try to plug in something from past experience.

    • @michaelholliday100
      @michaelholliday100 Před rokem +4

      Only if they are buying cheap contractor grade TR Outlets which do not function well....... If you purchase quality TR outlets they function flawlessly! TR Outlets are not deeper than a non-TR outlet...

    • @dwaineruthannarmentrout1811
      @dwaineruthannarmentrout1811 Před rokem +3

      @@michaelholliday100 Ok good to know that about the better ones. Thanks.

  • @VanF350
    @VanF350 Před rokem +64

    If you really want to hate TR outlets, try using a weather resistant & tamper resistant outlet outdoors in cold weather. You can't plug an extension cord in with both hands no matter how hard you push.

    • @michaelholliday100
      @michaelholliday100 Před rokem +4

      Only if they are buying cheap contractor grade WR/TR Outlets which do not function well....... If you purchase quality WR/TR outlets they function flawlessly!

    • @galenmarek8287
      @galenmarek8287 Před rokem +3

      You gotta wiggle that plug a little bit to get her in there. lols

    • @ammagee
      @ammagee Před rokem

      Never had a problem with my weather resistant TR outlets.

    • @macgyver03ga
      @macgyver03ga Před rokem +3

      Agreed. Trying to plug my heat gun into the WR/TR outlet when trying to thaw out my AC condensation line during the polar vortex last month here in GA when it was -10 with windchill, made lots of 4 letter words come out of my mouth.

    • @michaelholliday100
      @michaelholliday100 Před rokem +1

      @@macgyver03ga Because you or your contractor use cheap a$$ WR/TR receptacles! It is not an issue with quality receptacles...

  • @mattalbrecht7471
    @mattalbrecht7471 Před rokem +96

    Quick little shock as a kid was a learning experience. Z a a a p! Only did it once

    • @davidwayneprins
      @davidwayneprins Před rokem +5

      I did the same thing when I was maybe six years old. Was goofing around with a plug to socket adapter at a wall outlet and got my finger against the hot prong.

    • @marksreviewsandrants8554
      @marksreviewsandrants8554 Před rokem +5

      I stuck a bobby pin in it.

    • @WillNeverforgetmypasswordagain
      @WillNeverforgetmypasswordagain Před rokem +1

      Parents today think they have to protect their children from everything. They are not letting them learn on their own. They are raising children made of glass and will be sorry for it someday. If it's not going to kill them, let them do it and learn themselves. Do not be afraid of natural selection, unless your genes are the ones nature is trying to get out of the pool.

    • @BloodyKnives66
      @BloodyKnives66 Před rokem +5

      Same but I was taking out an outlet when I was like 10 and touched the sides as I pulled it out. Learned that day you have to turn the breaker off first lol I took apart everything as a kid

    • @MrOpinionCantSignIn
      @MrOpinionCantSignIn Před rokem +5

      GERMANY actually has 'safe outlets' but not yet when I grew up (or maybe the soft wire bypassed the safety - doubt it , we're talking 1958) ..... but I took the wires of a 12V electric motor for an erector set and stuck them in .... whole house went dark (glass fuses) .... my parents told me the found me sitting dead center, as far away as possible from any wall, still holding the leads with a 'wth' look on my face ..... lol

  • @billyoung8118
    @billyoung8118 Před rokem +60

    We finished my basement 2 years ago. It is a small basement, 300 sq ft. We built a closet around our furnace and water heater, put in a small closet for my wife's crafts, and the rest is just 1 open space divided into 2 sections: my office (I work from home 100%) and my wife's craft design area. We had rough in plumbing when the house was built, but did not use it, so no bathroom or sink. The inspector required us to use the TR outlets. They are so hard to push in the plugs that we've broken several of them. Completely useless!

    • @scallywag1716
      @scallywag1716 Před rokem +4

      Huh? Are you sure inspector did not mean GFCI? Tamper resistant not required in any code I’m aware of….

    • @_PatrickO
      @_PatrickO Před rokem +11

      Switch them out. You don't need inspections for changing your own outlets. You also want gfci in a basement because sometimes basements flood.

    • @flug0021
      @flug0021 Před rokem +9

      @@scallywag1716 Check out NEC 406.12. They are unfortunately required in all dwelling units unless your jurisdiction (state, county or city) decides not to implement that portion of the NEC.

    • @MrBonners
      @MrBonners Před rokem +2

      You have a set-up for a sink so the inspector was insisting on a GFI. A tamperproof receptacle does nothing for you and does nothing to solve any potential problems in a wet location.

    • @michaelholliday100
      @michaelholliday100 Před rokem +1

      Only if they are buying cheap contractor grade TR Outlets which do not function well....... If you purchase quality TR outlets they function flawlessly!

  • @s.vancourt9541
    @s.vancourt9541 Před rokem +23

    I had such a bad experience with difficult contractor grade TR outlets that I have been removing them and replacing them with standard (albeit better grade) outlets.

    • @Privat2840
      @Privat2840 Před rokem

      Standard outlets are designed to not allow little fingers to touch the energized metal. The only way to get shocked with a standard outlet is by inserting a piece of metal such as a paper clip.

  • @bernlitzner2739
    @bernlitzner2739 Před rokem +8

    I have an old 50's house entire with 2 prong outlets and wired with 12-2. Replacing all with commercial Legrand (non tamper) and add GFI at the breaker panel. All the boxes are small and I am using the Wagos instead of wire nuts.

  • @jakkomoore
    @jakkomoore Před rokem +10

    Thank you for coming out with a non short, I prefer the insight and content you have in the video versus the short.

    • @LarryCoates1948
      @LarryCoates1948 Před rokem

      Ane luckily you were not well grounded otherise you most likely would have never done ANYTHING ever again!!!

  • @kh8655
    @kh8655 Před rokem +14

    It's also a long-term use product where its niche feature will only be of use for maybe a few years
    once the kid is old enough then it's just an annoying outlet

  • @Thanksabunch
    @Thanksabunch Před rokem +163

    These outlets are a curse to seniors with compromised hand strength.

    • @EverydayHomeRepairs
      @EverydayHomeRepairs  Před rokem +13

      Valid point for sure, they can be tough to use.

    • @btd2516
      @btd2516 Před rokem +7

      As a 73 year old, I agree!

    • @jayjaynella4539
      @jayjaynella4539 Před rokem +25

      Not just seniors, but people with arthritis, cancer, and other illnesses. You do not need those outlets if you have no children in the house.

    • @MrBonners
      @MrBonners Před rokem +8

      TRs are a ridiculous device here. How many old people stick things in receptacles? What are you protecting them from?

    • @michaelholliday100
      @michaelholliday100 Před rokem +6

      Only if they are buying cheap contractor grade TR Outlets which do not function well....... If you purchase quality TR outlets they function flawlessly!

  • @jimimmler9110
    @jimimmler9110 Před rokem +3

    Great to see that I am not alone. Absolutely frustrating. I have stockpiled a lifetime supply of non-tamper outlets just in case they become unavailable someday.

  • @garethblake544
    @garethblake544 Před rokem +17

    All UK 13 amp. socket outlets are required to have protective shutters fitted which l guess helps with lowering the overall cost due to higher manufacturing volume.
    I am also aware that UK outlets are physically bigger so provide more scoop to fit a shutter arrangement that in most cases is operated by the insertion of the slightly longer earth (ground) pin which does make for a smoother operation when inserting the plug.
    Keep up the great videos and stay safe.

    • @rmorris8544
      @rmorris8544 Před rokem +2

      Exactly this. It's not a problem here. UK sockets / plugs are the best standard tbh. As for cost I see your point but given respective population numbers not sure about the economies of scale.

    • @jeevana.6391
      @jeevana.6391 Před rokem +1

      The UK plugs are designed better than the ones used in North America in terms of safety. Only issue with having the ground operate the shutter here is that not everything requires a ground pin, so you'd need a work around for all old devices.

    • @rmorris8544
      @rmorris8544 Před rokem +2

      @@jeevana.6391 Yes. We have 3 pins on all plugs. Where it is a two wire connection the earth pin is simply left unwired. Or typically for a pre wired connection the earth pin is a dummy made of nylon,/plastic. So yes you would need to replace the plug where it has only 2 pins.

  • @eriksax9489
    @eriksax9489 Před rokem +10

    I tried to research this issue when I ran into TR's for the first time. What I found was most childhood electrocutions fell into a few categories. Most were either malfunctioning appliances, construction problems, or older kids hitting lines with a ladder they were carrying unsupervised. TR's would help with none of that. I found that very small children presented at hospitals with shocks on a fairly regular basis, but were typically released without treatment, since they often only contacted the hot and did not have a good path to ground (through carpet or wood or socks or whatever). While I'm sure TR's have prevented some of that, I haven't found any data on TR's having been able to prevent, or actually preventing any fatal electrocutions in children. I think they're still too new to know, but I suspect they may increase other dangers involving electrical shock hazards, since people are putting a lot more force into their outlets and potentially damaging wire insulation. An outlet "failing" due to a worn TR shutter entirely may result in inappropriate use of extension cables etc. So is the cure worse than the disease here?

    • @MrWorth66
      @MrWorth66 Před rokem +1

      yeah screw TR's, if ppl really care about shocks just put a GFCI on each circuit. bit more money but way safer and much less hassle day to day

  • @sbffsbrarbrr
    @sbffsbrarbrr Před rokem +11

    I just looked at an outlet that've been meaning to replace for months now. I was having the issues that you mentioned with the plug not going in and sure enough, the outlet has a TR on the front. I know nothing about replacing an outlet and was just going to wing it via youtube videos of course 😁. But at least now I know the reason why several outlets in this flipped home are having issues. Cheap TR outlets installed to pass inspection. This was a revelation. Thank you!

    • @mrcryptozoic817
      @mrcryptozoic817 Před rokem +2

      Never trust a flipped home. Test everything!
      Try to rattle some of the walls and all the doors doors. Take a power tester with you and test every room, at least in one spot. Check calking and flashing around the exterior. Check for signs of water damage both where pipes are visible and around windows and doors. Make a check-off list.
      It's not hard these days to be your own home inspector. YT has dozens of sources to learn from.

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Před rokem

      @@mrcryptozoic817
      That only applies if you have the money to pay cash.
      If you're financing, your home is inspected well enough for the bank to lend you the money, and the insurance company to cover the house.
      You're NOT going to be that good from watching a YT video.
      You damn sure aren't going to do a good job inspecting the electrical system.

    • @mrcryptozoic817
      @mrcryptozoic817 Před rokem +1

      @@lordgarion514 I wasn't describing perfection. I should have specifically said "At Least". You CAN help yourself a lot on your own. And there are plenty of documented home flip disasters.
      Don't walk in and be stunned by a new kitchen and nice draperies then say "I'll buy it".

  • @karllaun2427
    @karllaun2427 Před rokem +16

    All the TR outlets I have encountered have been so frustrating to use I ended up replacing them.

    • @randomvideosn0where
      @randomvideosn0where Před rokem +1

      It really sucked for me because I had an electrician redo my cabin before I moved in then replacing all toe GFI etc because they were so hard to use. Reminds me why I bought a cabin in the woods where I can build what I want not what some overpaid corrupt government official want.

    • @michaelholliday100
      @michaelholliday100 Před rokem

      Stop buying cheap contractor grade TR Outlets which do not function well....... If you purchase quality TR outlets they function flawlessly! TR Outlets are not deeper than a non-TR outlet...

  • @67amiga
    @67amiga Před rokem +7

    We have a home daycare and I have installed tamper resistance outlets in most of the standard outlet locations throughout my house. Yes, some seem to be problematic, but most work fine. Previously, I found that the safety covers were too difficult to remove when that outlet was needed and were easily lost, broken, or not replaced. An unprotected outlet is a huge deficiency for a daycare and can cause you to be shut down.

  • @davidmay2294
    @davidmay2294 Před rokem +2

    You are definitely right. Just finishing up renovation at my house. And already planning on switching them out.

  • @goldwingconepatterns2565

    After coming to our current house I was frustrated as to why I couldn't plug in electrical devices. It was only 8 years later that I came to realize these plugs and their purpose. Once I saw your disassembly of one did I come to realize my approach to plugging in was wrong. Since then plugging in has been much easier. Not perfect but definitely easier. Thanks for the thorough explanation.

  • @sur2baja
    @sur2baja Před rokem +16

    I have a beach home in
    Baja, Mexico. When remodeling the home, I noticed many of the outlets were rusted and corroded. I installed tamper resistant as not only a safety feature for future grandkids, but to help minimize future rust and corrosion. Not sure if my thought process is valid but we’ll see over time. Thanks for your channel, it’s helped me tremendously!

    • @dealtrees
      @dealtrees Před rokem +7

      With what I've seen as far as electrical in Mexico, you far exceeded the norm...

    • @MadLadCustoms
      @MadLadCustoms Před rokem

      Things cannot oxidize below 35% relative humidity. You will almost always never get this close in real world scenario, but the closer you are the slower the oxidation. Things are coated for anti corrosion anyways so keeping humidity low will help extend this coating

    • @sur2baja
      @sur2baja Před rokem +8

      @@MadLadCustoms Fully understand that but…we are on the beach. The weather ranges from 45 with the same dew point and near hurricane like winds and salt spray to 120° and no humidity. Bottom line, it’s a beach house and salt intrudes so I’m just trying my best to prolong and damage.

  • @Tony_in_AZ
    @Tony_in_AZ Před rokem +8

    September 2021 we were replacing old outlets in a place that was a recent purchase for us to retire to.. We had to buy 6 or 8 of the TR design outlets to finish the project. A few home improvement stores we visited were out of stock of regular decora 15amp outlets. No estimated arrival time of stock. The TR outlets are a PITA to use

    • @michaelholliday100
      @michaelholliday100 Před rokem +1

      Only if they are buying cheap contractor grade TR Outlets which do not function well....... If you purchase quality TR outlets they function flawlessly! TR Outlets are not deeper than a non-TR outlet...

  • @mattchapman5941
    @mattchapman5941 Před rokem +5

    I recently finished a new sub panel install in a detached garage as a diy project. I Decided to add a new circuit with six outlets at workbench height. The Inspector wouldn't approve the final inspection until I put the TR outlets in. Kind of silly given the location.
    My question is if this was truly done for safety by the NEC or just another way to make a few bucks by the manufacturers?
    There have been cheap plastic outlet plugs available for years to solve this problem. Anyone with kids has used them and any homeowner can put them in without any skill. I'd venture to guess more of those are in use than TR outlets and are likely just as effective, if not more so because of their ease of use and availability.
    Anyway, thanks for the great videos and content. Your channel helped a ton with my project and after changing out the outlets the inspector was happy. Keep it up!

    • @randomvideosn0where
      @randomvideosn0where Před rokem

      It is a money grab between manufacturers and corrupt politicians, like AFCI. Next time don't call for a permit, why would you pay to have someone give you a hard time? I am a GC and many building inspectors miss clear violations and get hung up on certain "issues" some of which meet code!

  • @ifeelsoalive
    @ifeelsoalive Před rokem +6

    I replaced some probably 20 year old regular outlets in my house that were very loose. One small tug and the plug falls out, which was very annoying when using things like a vacuum cleaner. I replaced them with TR outlets and I actually like they're very tight and snug, they feel more secure and they eventually get more loose over time so its not as difficult to plug in stuff now. Overall, I think they're nice and if they're safer to use, especially with kids, why not!

    • @SpencerMcCormick
      @SpencerMcCormick Před rokem +3

      I had the exact same reasoning. Added a couple outlets in a bedroom-turned-office where my copiously large MacBook Pro wall wart was consistently falling out. It's been snugly in the new leviton TR outlet for months now without issue.

    • @MrBonners
      @MrBonners Před rokem +1

      plugs are securely held because the receptacle is new. has nothing to do with the TR function. A new standard receptacle would be just as tight.

  • @b5maddog
    @b5maddog Před rokem +15

    The struggle of plugging something in is the reason I usually stay away from them. I think installing them in a kid’s bedroom or playroom would be a the reason I would install them.

    • @billyoung8118
      @billyoung8118 Před rokem +1

      Unfortunately building code in residential areas now requires any outlet that is below 5 ft from the ground must use tamper resistant outlets. It really sucks! I am no electrician, but remodeled my basement two years ago and the building inspector required us to use those. It is so hard to plug into them that we have broken a few of the outlets. Really makes me feel good about how safe they must be. I'm sure a kid could easily injure themselves messing around with a broken outlet.

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Před rokem

      @@billyoung8118
      Nope, they couldn't.
      If they don't touch both wires, they aren't grounded well.
      Not being grounded is why birds can sit on bare high voltage lines.
      Dry wood, carpet, and vinyl are horrible conductors. So you don't get much of a shock.
      That's why almost no one gets electrocuted by plugs in America.
      They get electrocuted by damaged cords and shorted out appliances. These let you "touch" both wires at the same time, giving the electricity a complete path to ground, through your body.

    • @billyoung8118
      @billyoung8118 Před rokem

      @lordgarion514 the cover of the plate was actually broken, cracked. The kids seeing that could easily pry it off and play with whatever's inside. I'm not talking about the cover that's screwed over the outlet, I'm talking about the plastic on top of the outlet itself, what the plug pierces through to hit the conductors inside. That makes it very possible kids can get hurt. FWIW I have a B.S. in electrical engineering and am extremely knowledgeable about current flow.

  • @radozeman
    @radozeman Před rokem +30

    Personally I've always used the Leviton TR outlets, always seemed to work well enough, to the point you basically don't even notice, unless of course you try to plug something in off center or to one side. Just need to make sure you inserting the plug in relatively square.

    • @johnhaller5851
      @johnhaller5851 Před rokem +2

      The first use seems stiffer than subsequent uses. I've been replacing the existing backstab outlets in my house with TR outlets. The existing outlets quite often break in my hands while releasing the wire, which is why I keep at it. I don't really notice any extra stiffness in normal use.

    • @kamX-rz4uy
      @kamX-rz4uy Před rokem +1

      That's what the builder used in my house. A few of them had bad shutters but most were okay after a few uses. As the years went by though I've had to replace a bunch of them. Most recently the one on my front porch when I couldn't get the Christmas lights to plug in no matter what I tried. Unfortunately I've had to return several of the replacements as they didn't accept plugs fresh out of the box. I've installed a number of receptacles with USB ports and some had the same problem. At least with those the cover is screwed on from the back so I was able to remove the shutters in the bad ones.

    • @shaunbava1801
      @shaunbava1801 Před rokem +4

      I put some of those in they are fine, not sure what the hate is about. I put them in some of the most used outlets so they wouldn't need those plastic plug covers, no one has noticed. I'm more concerned the mechanism will break rather than having any issues plugging things in.

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Před rokem +1

      @@johnhaller5851
      They break because you're pulling them straight out.
      Had an electrician show me how to do it.
      Grab the wire with pliers, and then while pulling on the wire, twist the outlet back and forth.
      It will "walk" the wire out.

    • @michaelholliday100
      @michaelholliday100 Před rokem

      Only if they are buying cheap contractor grade TR Outlets which do not function well....... If you purchase quality TR outlets they function flawlessly! TR Outlets are not deeper than a non-TR outlet...

  • @todd2456
    @todd2456 Před rokem +26

    I hate those things. Was trying to help my dad out at his house with a GFCI outlet. The GFCI tester wouldn't even go into the outlet to test it. And the electrical tester I use wouldn't go into the hot side to even test it since it needs both prongs going in at the same time. Terrible.

    • @danielbonner8309
      @danielbonner8309 Před rokem +2

      I accidentally bought them for my shop I recently rewired. I thought these black receptacles would look cool. Hate those things!! I got to change em out.

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Před rokem

      No clue why the first one didn't go in.
      But the second sounds like an idiot stick. They don't need to be inserted to work. Just remove the cover and get it near the wire.

    • @todd2456
      @todd2456 Před rokem

      @@lordgarion514 I was trying to test several outlets quickly.

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Před rokem

      @@todd2456
      Not gonna lie, it's better to test everything before you cover it all up.
      Learned that the hard way when we had a GFCI bad from the factory.

  • @PudgyCurmudgeon
    @PudgyCurmudgeon Před rokem +1

    I use the TRs in places easily accessible to small children - floors, baseboards, walls, behind large appliances... but the the standard ones in places where the little ones could not reach (kitchen backsplash, bathroom outlets above the vanity...). So far, so good!

  • @weyerdom0120
    @weyerdom0120 Před rokem +4

    Just got done upgrading my house with Eaton Arrowheart TR outlets and the shutter system has worked great and have no problems plugging anything in. The Eaton GFCI outlets however can be pretty tough with TR I've noticed.

    • @bell6446
      @bell6446 Před rokem +2

      I agree with you and installed about 40 of these in a remodel recently. The Eaton Arrowheart TR’s are working fine and haven’t presented any issues with excessive tightness. NFPA NEC 2020 explicitly requires TR receptacles.

  • @MarkLawry
    @MarkLawry Před rokem +6

    I have installed them almost everywhere per code. They are not that bad. Just wiggle the plug side to side a little when you plug it in. My daughter was the one that put a chain of paperclips in each side years ago. She hot a big surprise.

    • @blackshirej
      @blackshirej Před rokem +2

      Ditto...code here requires it so I installed them. A little wiggle lets the cord go right in. Rarely have any issues unless someone had badly bent the prongs on the plug and they're no longer aligned.

    • @guytech7310
      @guytech7310 Před rokem

      You can do the same if you push in two paperclips at the same time. The child that does this could end up in cardiac arrest. Wiggling them in can cause the prongs to bend. This has already happened to me several times. You can buy outlet covers to make the outlets safer.

    • @kamX-rz4uy
      @kamX-rz4uy Před rokem +1

      I've found inserting the prongs using a downward angle and then wiggling it up and down works better.

  • @iamherenotheretobe
    @iamherenotheretobe Před rokem +2

    I have an old house and had a bunch of loose outlets. I went with commercial tamper resistant outlets on everything, I think I ended up using just over 24 outlets. I had at the time a 3 year old now going on 7. Lets just say they've worked very well with her shoving things in the plug's and even pulling out the child proof cover's. Little hard at first but a few plug in's the resistance to insertion is a lot less. I used leviton outlets with nylon wallplates, just basically because there's a home depot not even a mile down the street. This kid figured out most of the child proof stuff sold with ease but those TR plugs, they got beat up and never failed to protect.

  • @Species-lj8wh
    @Species-lj8wh Před rokem +4

    When I was expecting my first child. I looked into those TR outlets. But it was the cost. For the price of 2 TR outlets I got a 50 pack of the plastic plugs that insert into the plugs. And for the baby room I just put heavy furniture in front of the outlets.

  • @Latnman101
    @Latnman101 Před rokem +3

    I got a tamper resistant outlet but cant plug in anything. its like had no hole

  • @sbroccoli3942
    @sbroccoli3942 Před rokem +10

    1:38 because they suck to plug into haha

  • @workingmanrondoyle3287
    @workingmanrondoyle3287 Před rokem +4

    You're absolutely right about the design functionality and it's lacking thereof. From a customers point of view, it is my number one complaint that I receive. As from an electrician's standpoint of new construction homes 🤔 trying to keep the costs down and forced to put in the cheapest Eaton brand. Thanks for sharing the video.

  • @lchen4292
    @lchen4292 Před rokem

    I love tamper resistant outlets and I purchased them due a previous video on this channel. They have worked well in my house.

  • @kenkobra
    @kenkobra Před rokem +22

    At two minutes into the video my reason is...my kids are grown up and I don't need to worry about this.

    • @srfurley
      @srfurley Před rokem

      A friend visits your home with a small child. They come to help you with something in the kitchen leaving the child alone for a short time. During that time child finds something like a metal knitting needle and ... You can guess the rest.
      If a TR outlet is difficult to use then it’s either badly designed, badly made or damaged.

    • @kenkobra
      @kenkobra Před rokem

      @@srfurley I tell everyone with kids that enters my house "this is not a child proof house" so they have a clear understanding to watch their kids.

    • @hjkaye
      @hjkaye Před rokem

      You never know who might live in your house in the future

  • @JonathanKayne
    @JonathanKayne Před rokem +3

    My college apartment had these tamper resistant outlets and every time I tried to plug something in it felt like I was one step away from breaking the outlet. It was always so difficult to plug anything in.
    I feel like those plastic covers work far better for keeping children from messing with them. At least when I was a kid it was a bit of a challenge to remove them.

  • @TheGregsy25
    @TheGregsy25 Před rokem +1

    I bought my house a year ago and replaced every outlet in my house with Leviton TR since most were worn out and I've never had an issue. Just put it in straight, slightly wiggle left to right and it goes right in.

  • @tretre1692
    @tretre1692 Před rokem

    I almost bought them to redo my basement (13 outlets), but you nailed it, price and jamming told me no!

  • @berthongo8531
    @berthongo8531 Před rokem +37

    The electrician who wired my shop said that he had to put in TR receptacles. They totally suck. I have to fight to plug anything in. I don't know if it's the brand or what. All I know is that they are difficult to use and they may get replaced here shortly. I've been zapped by 120 quite a few times and I'm still kicking. Stop looking at my twitching eye! 😁

    • @EverydayHomeRepairs
      @EverydayHomeRepairs  Před rokem +1

      😂

    • @KameraShy
      @KameraShy Před rokem +3

      NEC does not require them if located 5-1/2 feet above the floor, which might be the case in a shop.

    • @m.obscura5009
      @m.obscura5009 Před rokem

      😂😂😂

    • @scarce911
      @scarce911 Před rokem

      I have gotten a shock by light socket when I was a kid, small shock from replacing a ceiling fan , and struck by lightning..thankfully I'm still kickin

    • @B5Blue1968
      @B5Blue1968 Před rokem

      @Bert Hongo The electrician was following the NEC Codebook 406.12. That basically requires them everywhere, but as Kamerashy stated, they are located 5-1/2 feet above the floor.

  • @DaveSomething
    @DaveSomething Před rokem +6

    it's a nice learning moment! if they survive, they won't do it again! (if they do, well, they deserve it)

  • @m3rdpwr
    @m3rdpwr Před rokem +3

    When my daughter was little, I swapped a bunch out for tamper resistant that were low on the wall and easily accessible by her. This is because those little child safety caps can be pulled off easy. I caught her once playing with an outlet, that was reason enough for me to change them. If I had to replace them again, now that she is grown up, it would be with a non tamper resistant version.

  • @Chevytech1977
    @Chevytech1977 Před rokem +5

    Depending where you live and your local codes you don't have a choice.
    Here in Ontario, Canada provincial code states that after a certain date, all new and updated duplex outlets are to be Tamper resistant.

    • @WillNeverforgetmypasswordagain
      @WillNeverforgetmypasswordagain Před rokem +2

      I'm in Ontario and all of mine are getting replaced. I'm putting all regular receptacles in and I'll be buying a case of them to put away for replacements in case they stop making them. My kids are smart enough not to shove something into a receptacle and if one of them does it anyway, that's just my wife's side coming through. "Honey, pick Sparky up and give him a cookie."

    • @randomvideosn0where
      @randomvideosn0where Před rokem

      Do like the AFCI and install them for the inspection then immediately replace them with functional equipment.

    • @michaeldunham3385
      @michaeldunham3385 Před rokem

      @@randomvideosn0where and probably invalidate your insurance

    • @WillNeverforgetmypasswordagain
      @WillNeverforgetmypasswordagain Před rokem

      @@michaeldunham3385 Has nothing to do with insurance. Older homes are not part of the new code. New homes require them. You am not required to retrofit older homes.

  • @nicholassmerk
    @nicholassmerk Před rokem +11

    I haven't had much issue with the Eaton commercial grade tamper resistant outlets. I have kids and don't mind spending $5 a pop for them. My most hated product in home electrical is the arc fault breaker. I've rarely had issues with GFCI breakers and outlets, but arc faults are horrible!

    • @esl4058
      @esl4058 Před rokem +2

      Arc fault breakers are notorious for nuisance tripping. Totally feel your pain on those.

    • @nicholassmerk
      @nicholassmerk Před rokem +2

      @@esl4058 yeah, refrigeration compressors in window air conditioners.

    • @janderson8401
      @janderson8401 Před rokem +2

      The homes most likely to need arc fault breakers are older homes and yet those are the ones least likely to be upgraded with AFCIs. New homes are required to have them and who knows if they will actually work 50 or 60 years from now when the connections throughout the house start to loosen up.

    • @nicholassmerk
      @nicholassmerk Před rokem +2

      @@janderson8401 well, that's the point, for them to trip of there is a loose connection. Not to nuisance trip every time a window AC cycles in 80 degree weather.

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Před rokem +1

      @@nicholassmerk
      But it's known they have a problem with brushed motors sometimes.

  • @twerkingfish4029
    @twerkingfish4029 Před rokem +16

    I remember, from like 15 years ago when I was very little, we had child safe outlets that you would put the plug in and twist to expose the connections. They were much easier to use than modern tamper resistant receptacles, and possibly safer too.

    • @davidwayneprins
      @davidwayneprins Před rokem +1

      When I worked retail, I remember seeing wall plates made by Safety First where that the cover slid sideways to expose the outlet. but for obvious reasons it only came in a duplex outlet version, not GFCI.

    • @KameraShy
      @KameraShy Před rokem +7

      I remember, from like 70 years ago, similar child safe outlets where you put the plug in partially, twist, and insert the rest of the way. BUT ... I was warned from the earliest time not to mess with outlets, that they were dangerous and not to stick anything in them. I didn't.

    • @karlkoehler341
      @karlkoehler341 Před rokem +2

      @@davidwayneprins They are an inferior product. The wall plate adds extra thickness where it's not wanted, many appliances don' t plug in all the way and no longer hold in the outlet.

    • @travcollier
      @travcollier Před rokem

      @@KameraShy I tend to do the "tell" then let them try it once in a safe way, so they can see what happens. Kids should be very curious IMO ;)

  • @XzTS-Roostro
    @XzTS-Roostro Před rokem +1

    The first time I bought a TR receptacle, it was a Legrand with two USB connectors. The biggest problem I have with that was that the shutters were extremely stiff, it's like it was designed to expect a ground pin to be inserted. If if was just the two blades, it was tough, but if the ground pin was included, it seemed a bit easier to insert.
    However, when I replaced a few GFCIs with an Eaton/Cooper TR GFCI, those seemed to be a lot easier to use. Almost like they knew that not every plug is going to have a grounding pin. My mom, however, had some trouble plugging things into it, only for me to observe that she's been inserting them at a slightly awkward angle than what she had thought. Once I pointed out her actual issue, she readjusted, and adapted.

  • @GameInterest
    @GameInterest Před rokem +1

    I may be in the minority but I love these things. I've replaced about half the outlets in my house and used the tamper resistant ones in my son's room and ran them through a GFCI outlet where it came into the room. I can't mess around with no safety around this kid. A few weeks after I got all his outlets switched over he tried sticking a paperclip into one. He wasn't able to. I don't keep paperclips in the house because I've really got no need for them so I have no idea where it came from.
    Anyway, I'm really happy tamper resistant outlets exist and I love them.

  • @balint133
    @balint133 Před rokem +3

    Some places have code requirements for TR outlets for any new or retrofit applications. So yes, you can replace them with a non TR for yourself but if you need to call an electrician to do the work for your garage/attachment/new construction they have to go with TR outlets. BTW I found that you can "break" them in and just plug-unplug a quickly few times and afterwards they work just fine.

    • @alandaters8547
      @alandaters8547 Před rokem

      Agreed- there is a "break-in" effect where they shutter action becomes much smoother, at least in the ones I have.

  • @JCWren
    @JCWren Před rokem +5

    LOL, I just replaced 112 outlets in my house. I use the Eaton commercial grade outlets, that run about $1.98/ea in 10-packs. No WAY would I pay an additional $330 for unreliable tamper resistant outlets in a house that has 2 adults and 2 dogs.

    • @michaeldunham3385
      @michaeldunham3385 Před rokem

      Unreliable?

    • @JCWren
      @JCWren Před rokem

      @@michaeldunham3385 Shutters jamming or breaking. The electrical side is going to be as reliable as the same model without TR.

    • @michaeldunham3385
      @michaeldunham3385 Před rokem

      @@JCWren never had a problem with shutters breaking or jamming

  • @wmcomprev
    @wmcomprev Před rokem +3

    I've used Leviton. I find they tend to be a problem the first couple of uses. I also find that the problem, in general, tends to go away as users get used to going straight in with both prongs simultaneously. I've also run across some plugs that have, not just 2 different width prongs, but 2 different length prongs. They don't have to be off by much before the TR outlet won't let the plug in. I find that holding the plug slightly loosely as I start it in helps by allowing the plug to shift in my hand when the prongs make contact with the shutters, aligning the plug for a more, straight in alignment. I then tighten my fingers and push.

    • @Jesse1MI
      @Jesse1MI Před rokem +3

      Couldn't have described it better. I use the same plugs, haven't had many issues...but there's always that 1 plug that you just can't get something plugged into.

    • @kamX-rz4uy
      @kamX-rz4uy Před rokem +2

      One thing I found with Levitons is if you don't plug-unplug regularly they get stiff and sometimes need replaced. I've had to replace ones hardly used after 5 years or so and after unplugging my dishwasher, which had been plugged in for a looooong time I couldn't get anything to plug in there again.

  • @gunnarparment5050
    @gunnarparment5050 Před rokem +2

    Since I live in a different part of the world with other outlets (Schucko) I must say I was surprised that those non-tamper-resistant outlets are still allowed. The only outlets that are not tamper resistant that are allowed are those already installed, afaik. There is one exception. The 3-phase sockets have no tamper resistance, but those are never installed indoors where children are supposed to be, but rather in a garage or an industry. (I have a 3-phase soccer in my garage. I can use it to charge my car with a portable "wallbox".)

    • @gunnarparment5050
      @gunnarparment5050 Před rokem

      @Phillip Banes Of you think that it should be allowed to install dangerous equipment where kids are supposed to live, then we can only agree to disagree.

  • @alanalso
    @alanalso Před rokem +9

    Replaced all my outlets with Leviton TR outlets this summer. Bought in bulk on Amazon. I have young kids so safety is my priority. I have no issue with them so far. Most things stay plugged in. For ones that are plugged in/out regularly they don’t have any struggle. Will see how they do over time.

  • @aaron74
    @aaron74 Před rokem +3

    The residential grade Legrand TR receptacles are pretty glitchy, I find I have to really jiggle a plug to insert it, which is mildly annoying. I'd have a pretty hard time justifying its replacement with another TR receptacle, I would probably use a non-TR Legrabd commercial receptacle. I agree they're the best and I live 1/4 mile from Menards lol

  • @Nirotix
    @Nirotix Před rokem +1

    I renovated our entire basement building 2 bedrooms, office with 7 plugs, and a complete 11.1 home theater room with 2 separate 20A plugs all using tamper resistant.
    A box of 10-15A, bought before covid, I think I paid ~$16 for each. I have now issues with them. The 20A one's I bought were Eaton's, obviously more expensive. Rest I believe were Leviton.
    Easy to wire, square tamper resistant not wildly expensive really than the cheap round crappy one's we grew up with. I see no issue's with them. Sometimes you have to stuggle a bit to get plugged into a new outlet that hasn't been used before, hence tamper resistant. Lol

  • @MooseBoys42
    @MooseBoys42 Před rokem +1

    Point #3 is my biggest gripe. I ended up just installing non-TR outlets and putting sliding outlet covers on them.

  • @petevenuti7355
    @petevenuti7355 Před rokem +4

    As a kid I used to handle all the tamper resistant items in the house, then when I was 5, I asked my parents why they got everything too difficult for adults to use... 🤦... One of those early moments of realization..

  • @chomp54321
    @chomp54321 Před rokem +13

    I have just replaced an old outdoor outlet with a TR one, thinking it was a good idea. I regretted it right away even before plugging anything into it. I tried to test it after installation with a voltage tester, the kind that has a plastic tip. Since it is necessary to "open" both the hot and neutral "gates" at the same time, I could not put the probe in deep enough to sense the current. I'll replace it with a non-TR one when the weather becomes warmer and when I can work with the caulking. I'll never touch the TR outlets again.

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Před rokem +1

      We call the single prong testers "idiot sticks", and you don't need to plug them in for them to work.
      Just remove the cover and get it near the wire. Doesn't even need to physically touch, just be close.

    • @erikkarling2176
      @erikkarling2176 Před rokem

      The trick is to plug something in (eg a cell phone charger) about 75%of the way, then test on that plug that is now making contact with the receptacle contactor. You can also use your tester directly on the plug ends at the same time.

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Před rokem

      @@erikkarling2176
      If you're testing for power using a cell phone charger, you can just connect the phone to the charger.

    • @michaelholliday100
      @michaelholliday100 Před rokem +1

      If you add a new circuit greater than 6 ft. you are required to use TR Outlets! Let someone get hurt in your home with an item that you should have purchased diffectly by code and see what your homeowners insurance does if they is a liability issue...

    • @chomp54321
      @chomp54321 Před rokem

      @@michaelholliday100 Before critising, perhaps you should take more care reading my post.

  • @hassanbazzi3545
    @hassanbazzi3545 Před rokem +1

    So that what is the resistance I had to face on one of the plugs that o had in my rental. I never heard of them but unique product. I probably voted yes before I saw the one you took apart. I probably pass on and would not install. I hated every time I used it. Amazing video. Thank you for sharing

  • @Krankie_V
    @Krankie_V Před rokem

    The sockets in my home were bad, and my son was just starting to crawl. Tamper resistant receptacles just made the most sense. Sometimes they're a little finicky to plug something into, but it's never a big deal. In my garage, I just used regular, non TR 20A commercial grade receptacles.

  • @JackRussell021
    @JackRussell021 Před rokem +3

    It had not even crossed my mind to replace all the outlets with TR, and I am already in the process of replacing all outlets (old outlets are old, standard, ivory with backstab connection, new are commercial grade, white, decora, and obv not backstab). I guess in my mind, it would make sense if we had little kids, but we don't.

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Před rokem

      I've been flipping houses for almost 8 years. We replace all outlets and switches.
      I've never seen an outlet that you didn't have both the screw connections and the holes to stab.
      Not old or new. They all have both.

    • @JackRussell021
      @JackRussell021 Před rokem

      @@lordgarion514 They have both, but old outlets let you use 12 gauge with backstab, and newer ones only let you use 14 gauge.

  • @gnic76
    @gnic76 Před rokem +4

    I only use the TR's if that's all I can get. I'd rather spend more on a better quality outlet, than have to spend the same amount on a TR.

  • @curtchase3730
    @curtchase3730 Před rokem

    Anytime I have any issues requiring a lot of force plugging in a standard plug or even some 12V accessory plug in a car "cig lighter" outlet, I apply a bit of di-electric grease to the prongs. Makes a huge difference.

  • @chenling2937
    @chenling2937 Před rokem

    As someone with kids, I started with a mix of tr outlets and the plastic covers for existing outlets. I eventually just replaced the first outlet in each chain with a gfci outlet. For the two kids rooms (which sadly is on one breaker) I replaced the breaker with an cafci one. That's how much I hated the TR outlets and the plastic covers.

  • @briansegall1084
    @briansegall1084 Před rokem +14

    I recently replaced all the (backstabbed) outlets in my house with residential grade Leviton Decora tamper resistant outlets. I get the 10 packs from Home Depot. I occasionally have a little struggle when plugging something in, but I can't say it's been an issue in general. Maybe that brand is one of the good ones?
    The price difference isn't nearly as much as the ones in the video either. $13.48 for standard, $19.98 for TR. That's 50% more, not 250% more like the commercial outlets in the video.

    • @davidnorton573
      @davidnorton573 Před rokem +2

      I built my house with these, have had good luck.

    • @ArthurSmallidge
      @ArthurSmallidge Před rokem +1

      I just installed these too. I like them, and actually don't notice anything when plugging something into them.

    • @ammagee
      @ammagee Před rokem

      I bought the same. I've never noticed any increased difficulty using them, and the price difference was similar and I say negligible when it comes to safety. I'm not understanding people's issues with these, I guess.

    • @ifeelsoalive
      @ifeelsoalive Před rokem

      Same here and haven’t had any of the issues that the people in the comments are saying they have/had with TR outlets. Leviton is the way to go 👍🏼

  • @dopeytripod
    @dopeytripod Před rokem +6

    socket to 'em

  • @chadrowland5234
    @chadrowland5234 Před rokem +1

    TR receptacles are a great idea. However, some of them are plug resistant. I use Leviton but Legrand is pretty good too. I don't have any bad brands. They're all pretty good. I have a 3 year old niece and a 12 month old niece and I babysit them a lot and so, I absolutely must have TR receptacles for sure! I plug and unplug equipment constantly and the TR is a must for me. My dad's RV had cheap quality receptacles and I replaced them with TR because I have 5 step nieces. I admire the idea behind the tamper resistance receptacles. I have to have them because of my 7 nieces total. A power cord is just going to hang there. Clock is just going to stay plugged in 24/7. An alarm system is too going to stay plugged in 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, 12 months a year, and so forth. But a lamp on the other hand, we've all done it, I've done it, I do it every time I shut off my metal halide fixture, all finished using it, reach down and jerk the plug to turn it off. I do it to my Christmas tree all the time, I do it to my metal halide light when I turn it off...unplug it to turn it off. I do it to my central vacuum powerhead to turn it off. But, no one ever remembers to reinsert the plastic caps, I don't. Well, when the receptacles are uncovered, that puts small children at risk. That's why I absolutely depend on tamper resistance receptacles. In fact, TR receptacles are all I buy because of my nieces. I had a ceiling mounted receptacle for a garage door opener go bad and I just threw up a tamper resistance receptacle because that was what I had on hand. That should illustrate how much I depend on tamper resistance receptacles because I babysit my nieces a lot and I love my nieces very much. So, naturally I am very protective of my nieces and I only buy tamper resistance receptacles for that reason.

  • @LeuCustomKnives
    @LeuCustomKnives Před rokem

    When I was a sophomore in high school in science class I pushed a metal compass into the hot/neutral side at the same time. Not understanding what I was doing or about to do. Luckily I was holding the plastic section of the compass. Melted the prongs instantly 😅

  • @richardcormier3580
    @richardcormier3580 Před rokem +4

    I’m replacing the forty year old backstabbed receptacles in my house and I actually went with the commercial grade decora ones from Legrand. I had to order them from an electric supply shop because nobody around me carries them, so I only ordered enough for one room because I wanted to test them before doing the rest of my house specifically because of how bad the TR mechanisms are at a friends house. I installed the first room and was quite surprised at how well they work, there’s almost no extra resistance and I probably wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between the Legrand TR receptacle and any other non TR receptacle. The next day I went back to the shop and ordered enough for the rest of my house.
    Thanks for your videos by the way. They’ve been extremely helpful when it’s come to the finer details of swapping my receptacles and switches that can easily be overlooked.

    • @michaelholliday100
      @michaelholliday100 Před rokem

      Are you aware that the Contractor Grade are the lowest quality. Don't buy cheap contractor grade TR Outlets which do not function well....... If you purchase quality TR outlets they function flawlessly! TR Outlets are not deeper than a non-TR outlet... Let someone get hurt in your home with an item that you should have purchased diffectly by code and see what your homeowners insurance does if they is a liability issue...

  • @MikeInPlano
    @MikeInPlano Před rokem +6

    When I was about 7 years old I did exactly what he describes and got a good jolt. I never did it again, but had I not reacted as quickly as I did, that decision may have been made for me on a permanent basis. This seems like a good idea that addresses a real problem (as opposed to so many so-called safety features that are really just Darwin candidate lawsuit prevention), it just needs some work to improve the design.

    • @Urza9814
      @Urza9814 Před rokem +1

      When I was growing up I got a pretty good jolt trying to unplug a big wall wart adapter, fingers slipped and grabbed both prongs while they were still party inserted. TR outlets require a lot more force not only when inserting the plug, but also while removing it. So they prevent one way of electrocuting yourself at the cost of making a different way of electrocuting yourself more likely lol

    • @fctoashton
      @fctoashton Před rokem

      This is literally an anti-darwin mechanism. Remember darwin isnt just checking the child but also the parents. Theres alot of parents that shouldnt have kids, and this is preventing one of those checks. A good parent would install the plastic covers, a bad parent does nothing.

    • @z1522
      @z1522 Před 10 měsíci

      @@fctoashton No serious adult should be conflating natural selection, which humans have bypassed for several centuries, and any safety methodologies designed within a single lifetime, to reduce possibly lethal accidents. Seatbelts, along with modern auto design changes, halved the fatalities, which were once equal annually, to the entire American deaths in the entire Viet Nam war -about 55,000.
      Cynical, self-centered, self-righteous prigs believe they and their families, unique above all others, have a "right" of privilege, to flaut any law or restriction they find inconveniencing, believing their superiority makes them better arbiters of what regulations need apply - until they suffer a consequence, and sue everyone within arms reach, for damages.

  • @Wosiewose
    @Wosiewose Před rokem

    You just explained the reason why I've been unable to use some of the new TR outlets that were installed in my 102-year-old kitchen when it was remodeled a few years ago! I thought maybe they were just too small for the plugs of my somewhat older appliances. I was afraid to try to force it, so simply considered those outlets unusable. They must have been installed to pass inspection, as they're positioned for countertop appliances and are not within the reach of small children (whom we don't have, anyway).

    • @cryptickcryptick2241
      @cryptickcryptick2241 Před rokem

      Yeah, the new electrical codes requires the new tamper resistant plugs. On paper the idea looks good. As a user, I cannot recommend them; what they have shown me is that the people writing the code have lost touch of reality. After the electrical inspector leaves, one can change out the outlet to an old fashioned one.

  • @mikmik9034
    @mikmik9034 Před rokem +1

    Thank you, I wondered why on the new outlets I have, it is almost necessary to hammer plugs into them. The resistance to insertion is painfully difficult on some of them. I have a couple of new outlest that I cannot use because I cannot plug in devices.

  • @mr.funnypenguin8004
    @mr.funnypenguin8004 Před rokem +4

    I think the most hated would be a FPE electrical panel, lol. I actually like the feeling of plugging something into a TR outlet.

    • @quinnbattaglia5189
      @quinnbattaglia5189 Před rokem

      Right? They feel so much more solid.

    • @randomvideosn0where
      @randomvideosn0where Před rokem

      @@quinnbattaglia5189 They feel like junk when the plug refuses to go in. Buy quality outlets if you want a solid feel without the headache of these things.

    • @michaeldunham3385
      @michaeldunham3385 Před rokem +1

      @@randomvideosn0where seriously? I'm amazed that those without the shutters are still legal

  • @JasonW.
    @JasonW. Před rokem +6

    I use Leviton receptacles, and Home Depot has them at same price 10 for $50. They have a metal shutter on one side. Their design works well easily sliding a plug into them.

  • @flynlow43
    @flynlow43 Před 3 měsíci

    Never had an issue with them. I learned from an electrician friend of mine to angle the plug downward at the outlet openings and kind of roll the plug in. Rather than trying to go straight in as normal. Super easy.

  • @jfftck
    @jfftck Před rokem +1

    I put outlet covers that have a sliding cover that stops anything from being inserted that I used when my daughter was a toddler. Those are less complicated, don’t bind as easily, and have a lower price difference than standard covers when compared to tamper resistant plugs.

  • @williambinns1631
    @williambinns1631 Před rokem +7

    I forgot these things existed. Haven't seen one in a decade at least. They are horrible. That plug needs to be square to the wall within a nanometer or it will jam. Everyone should just learn why not to jam stuff into electrical outlets by doing it once or twice.

    • @BrewMiester
      @BrewMiester Před rokem

      I agree, let Darwin do his job. Sometimes with all these "They protect the kids" devices, we are ending up in a future like Idiocracy.

    • @michaeldunham3385
      @michaeldunham3385 Před rokem

      @@BrewMiester they're safer, why is that a bad thing?

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Před rokem

      @@michaeldunham3385
      And why is making something that's not really dangerous, safer such a good thing???
      330 million people in America, almost none of the outlets are protected, and yet basically no one gets electrocuted by the plugs.
      They get electrocuted by damaged cords and defective appliances that are plugged in, not by the plug itself. You really do need to touch both wires to get electrocuted, touching one wire zaps you and makes your arm tingle and go partially numb for a few minutes at most. unless you're standing in water.
      Hell, cars are VERY dangerous
      I bet you don't advocate making their top speed 20mph to make them safer......
      And yes, 20mph is plenty fast enough.

  • @heavypiano
    @heavypiano Před rokem +5

    When I was two I stuck a key into an outlet. Ended up in the emergency room and still have a scar on my thumb. Would have been protected by one of these outlets, even though they are inconvenient.

  • @vincentburnworth3318
    @vincentburnworth3318 Před rokem

    I used tr outlets in my kids play room and plan to replace the ones in their bedroom with them also. And areas where the kids won’t spend as much time unsupervised when they are little I just use commercial grade outlets

  • @plouffe.
    @plouffe. Před rokem +1

    Legrand’s TR outlets are my favorite. They work well, are good quality and it’s not difficult to plug something into it. Not to mention the “protective doors” are black and you can’t tell it’s TR by looking at it.

  • @MrKornnugget
    @MrKornnugget Před rokem +8

    The plastic plug caps are really cheap for the few years you need to protect your outlets.

    • @EverydayHomeRepairs
      @EverydayHomeRepairs  Před rokem +2

      Yeah, not a bad option for sure

    • @glasshalffull2930
      @glasshalffull2930 Před rokem +2

      We got the plastic plugs when our son was born (his 23rd birthday was today)and the same plugs are still there and working fine.

    • @Jesse1MI
      @Jesse1MI Před rokem +2

      They just look silly, and can be removed.

    • @djijspeakerguy4628
      @djijspeakerguy4628 Před rokem +2

      Don’t know about where you live, but those child safety outlet covers are actually not up to code in my area! The reason is, if you have a looser fitting (possibly older residential grade) receptacle, your child can easily pull them out of the outlet! I remember pulling quite a few out myself when I was little!

    • @alandaters8547
      @alandaters8547 Před rokem

      Children can easily remove those plastic plugs-definitely a false sense of security there.

  • @Sylvan_dB
    @Sylvan_dB Před rokem +3

    Faced frustration with a tamper resistant outlet in an AirBnB (or similar, don't remember for sure) I had for a few days. I took a key, lined it up, gave it a good whack with my shoe, and no more problems. Even tho it was in the "long" (neutral) side I did wrap a sock around the key before pulling it out. 😁

  • @terrydpierce2191
    @terrydpierce2191 Před rokem +1

    Great video! I agree with you about the cost and availability. Color is an issue in my town. I can't find an ivory TR commercial grade, back wire on the shelf. And difficult to find online.

  • @GS-lh2nx
    @GS-lh2nx Před rokem +1

    I put Leviton in our previous house in the kid's bedrooms. Just a standard grade but what a pain in the butt. The new house went with commercial-grade Leviton per your recommendation but left the TR on the shelf. Not worth the hassle. More likely to zap myself trying to plug something in than anyone sticking things in there that don't belong.

  • @GotayrDevelopment
    @GotayrDevelopment Před rokem +8

    I bought a pack of 50 TR outlets on amazon for less than the cost of buying 20 standard outlets at Lowes. I generally prefer them just for how difficult it is to accidentally unplug something from them. Then again, I'm changing out the 40 year old receptacles in my house for new ones, so it only made sense to go for the better bulk deal. At the end of the day, they don't really have any cost difference unless you buy exclusively from brick and mortar stores.

    • @greghight954
      @greghight954 Před rokem

      I hope you like changing out broken TR receptacles

    • @pablopicaro7649
      @pablopicaro7649 Před rokem +1

      Bootleg Chinese most likely, or stolen from somewhere if legit.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před rokem

      What you really want are called spec or hospital grade outlets. They tend to cost a bit though.

    • @michaelholliday100
      @michaelholliday100 Před rokem

      Those bulk packages are junk... Only if they are buying cheap contractor grade TR Outlets which do not function well....... If you purchase quality TR outlets they function flawlessly! TR Outlets are not deeper than a non-TR outlet...

    • @Conlan0215
      @Conlan0215 Před rokem +1

      Landlord detected

  • @crzyworm623
    @crzyworm623 Před rokem +4

    Replaced all my wall outlets with Leviton Decora TR... sometimes they work well, sometimes they give me grief even with the same plug. I don't find myself plugging and unplugging stuff that often, as something like our vacuum is now rechargeable, and the dock stays plugged in, so the safety factor with a Toddler in the house is a no brainer. Tried those safety cover plugs first but they caused more curiosity and tempted my kid to fiddle with the outlets more. When I do my kitchen outlets, I'll steer clear of the TR for most of them as the safety risk is much lower.

    • @JohnVance
      @JohnVance Před rokem

      I also updated my house with Leviton Decora TR, and they've been pretty easy to use and operate reliably the very few times I ever need to plug something in. I suspect a lot of the frustration folks are experiencing is due to poor-quality outlets that only meet the bare minimum standards. I did pay through the nose for them, though, can't deny that.

    • @crzyworm623
      @crzyworm623 Před rokem

      @@JohnVance I didn't think the residential grade were that bad when bought in 10 packs, sure more than the cheapo builder grade.. Kitchen will get commercial those add a few more bucks.... It's the screw less wall plates that get you.

  • @wilbready
    @wilbready Před rokem +1

    In our areas, central Arizona, the dust ends up clogging the shutter on the TR receptacles. I’ve never found them to be that much safer, similarly the tamper resistant medicine bottles.

  • @leewhitmore5350
    @leewhitmore5350 Před rokem +1

    From what I see, TR outlets are required by code. NEC 406.12: All 15 and 20 amp receptacles in seven common areas (including dwelling units) shall be listed tamper resistant receptacles. (paraphrased) Meaning - if you touch it as a project, it need to be up to code. Existing receptacles do NOT need to be TR. In my projects. I install TR outlets to be code compliant. They are quirky but they work.

    • @randomvideosn0where
      @randomvideosn0where Před rokem

      Backwards progress! Normal outlets just plain work, not kinda janky work. Too much government!

  • @TheKingOfInappropriateComments

    I buy the Decoras and it's actually been pretty hard to find any on the store shelves that *aren't* tamper resistant. I have to special order the ones that aren't.

    • @michaelholliday100
      @michaelholliday100 Před rokem

      If you add a new circuit greater than 6 ft. you are required to use TR Outlets! Let someone get hurt in your home with an item that you should have purchased diffectly by code and see what your homeowners insurance does if they is a liability issue...

    • @TheKingOfInappropriateComments
      @TheKingOfInappropriateComments Před rokem

      @@michaelholliday100 I'll take my chances. By the way, when I said "Special order" I meant that I just have to order it online instead of in store. Home depot sku 799778. My local store has 7 in stock in white. Compare to the TRs they have 49 in white.

  • @richardyates1033
    @richardyates1033 Před rokem +6

    I've found that most people don't like the TR recpts because they are difficult to use. Unfortunately, whenever something becomes part of "code", the price of the product becomes unnecessarily exorbitant. And, their required use becomes more ubiquitous. Take GFI and AFI protection, for example. Just as you state, they may serve a purpose, however limited, but their use and installation multiplies with every code cycle. It's almost as if the code making panel is comprised of manufacturer reps forcing the new expensive products on the public. This is usually at the expense of the public or installing contractor as they become the unwitting R&D for these products; especially when they fail.

    • @pablopicaro7649
      @pablopicaro7649 Před rokem +1

      Guess who the "experts"are on the board panels suggesting changes......industry insiders and investors

    • @unrelativistic
      @unrelativistic Před rokem

      Indeed. Over the past few years, GFCI and AFCI & now TR are required on almost everything in the home. It looks like it is mainly a profit-driving measure.

    • @michaelholliday100
      @michaelholliday100 Před rokem

      Only if they are buying cheap contractor grade TR Outlets which do not function well....... If you purchase quality TR outlets they function flawlessly! TR Outlets are not deeper than a non-TR outlet...

  • @rocroc
    @rocroc Před 9 měsíci +1

    Interesting video. It would be helpful to mention that there is a specific way to insert a cord into a tamper resistant plug. For a two pronged cord, lay the two prongs on the lower edge of the plug at a slight angle with the cord end tilted down. Then just roll the plug into the outlet. Unfortunately, you have more difficulty using a three prong plug.

  • @SeanReifschneider
    @SeanReifschneider Před rokem

    I've had good luck with the Eaton Commercial TR receptacles, they don't seem to be too hard to plug into. I'll keep Legrand in mind though at your recommendation. I've been replacing all the receptacles in my house, going from old style to Decora, as I pigtail the aluminum wiring, so I can look and see if it's a box I've pigtailed.

  • @SeeroBoarder
    @SeeroBoarder Před rokem +4

    My main reason for using TR outlets in my home more than standard outlets is that the shutters prevent dust and pet hair from getting into the slots and causing damage or connection issues. Although this is mostly theoretical and I have not had an outlet die because of this reason, it's an extra feature I think is worth the cost for potentially improved longevity. Of course, that longevity would be cut short if the TR mechanism fails, but I have yet to have that happen to me (I use Legrand).

  • @marklynn9812
    @marklynn9812 Před rokem +13

    I taught my children the hard way

  • @peterkn2
    @peterkn2 Před rokem

    I've always opted for the TR to replace old outlets. I'm now worried that I chose wrong, Thanks! haha.

  • @matthewcrites4197
    @matthewcrites4197 Před rokem

    I have broadly found that TRs from the last few years are much smoother to plug stuff into than before. I remember some outlets in my house used to be very stiff before they were replaced

  • @thenexthobby
    @thenexthobby Před rokem +5

    As a former child, I can tell you that most of the likelihood of a kid tampering with an outlet has to do with the kid. I am not saying TR receptacles aren't a valid product.
    I don't recall ever trying to insert anything into an outlet. But On probably 2 occasions I purposely touched both prongs of a plug while it was partially inserted in the outlet, to know what it felt like. After the novelty of the brief "vibrating" sensation lost its allure, so did any further attempts.
    Much later, we used the plastic inserts when our kids were young. They could have easily defeated them, but never were interested in trying.

    • @Sylvan_dB
      @Sylvan_dB Před rokem

      My mother frequently told the tale of how as soon as I could crawl, I'd make my way to where her vacuum was plugged in, and unplug it. She had to pen me up to finish the job. Experimentation has continued for decades since (with more electrical shocks, plumbing accidents, auto mishaps, ... than I can count).

  • @Lew114
    @Lew114 Před rokem +9

    I always use tamper resistant outlets when I do replacements. I've never had a problem with them. An extra $2 per outlet isn't going to make or break a budget for any of my projects.

    • @WillNeverforgetmypasswordagain
      @WillNeverforgetmypasswordagain Před rokem +2

      It's not the price, it is the fact that they're a pain in the butt when you use them. If you don't get the prongs lined up absolutely perfectly they won't go in. You spoke of budget and projects, so I assume you're a contractor. Ask your previous customers how they like them after using them for a few months. I'll think you'll be surprised at their answers.

    • @randomvideosn0where
      @randomvideosn0where Před rokem

      When you are struggling to get something plugged in to one and your finger slips and touches the prong, how much safer is that? These things are junk pushed by corrupt politicians and the corporations that will profit from them, same as AFCIs, same as a Nissan Versa having a backup camera. Then people wonder why housing, cars etc keep getting more expensive.

    • @Lew114
      @Lew114 Před rokem

      @@WillNeverforgetmypasswordagain I have them in my home and I’ve never had a problem. I haven’t gone back and asked specifically about them on other jobs but I’ve not had any complaints. I replaced every outlet with them in a building used for a kid’s track out camp. Having kid-safe outlets (and GFI on the first outlet after each breaker) was an obvious need on that project. It was also a code requirement. It’s been years but I think I used Eaton child-resistant outlets. Maybe I just had better luck with the brand I used.
      I’d attribute any problems with these things as a symptom of a larger problem. Most products in general just aren’t made very well these days. Manufacturing has mostly moved offshore and the only consideration is how cheaply things can be produced.

    • @WillNeverforgetmypasswordagain
      @WillNeverforgetmypasswordagain Před rokem

      @@Lew114 Judging by everything else we've found in the house, I'd guess ours are the cheapest they could possibly have found.

    • @WillNeverforgetmypasswordagain
      @WillNeverforgetmypasswordagain Před rokem

      @@randomvideosn0where Geez, I'd like to give you ten 'likes' for this comment, but can only give you one. Think of it as ten.

  • @Robert-ui1dg
    @Robert-ui1dg Před 10 měsíci +1

    I totally get it. I bought one of these tamper-proof outlets by mistake, and after I installed it and tried to plug something in, I couldn't. It was frustrating to me as a DIY'er... Thinking that either I had messed something up, or had purchased a faulty product. Well, long story short, I won't be buying the tamper-resistant receptacles Because they are a pain in the butt.😬

  • @VV-th5is
    @VV-th5is Před rokem

    I thought there was something I was doing when struggling to plug in. Great explanation. I have old outlets 2200sf home they really all need to be replaced. Is it best to hire bonded insured electrician? Many are saying just hire DIY. What do you recommend and what is a reasonable price? I live in So. California.