Guanqin "Nomos Lambda" Automatic Power Reserve Watch Review GJ16106 c/o GearBest - Perth WAtch
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Yes a heavy homage indeed, but my rule of thumb is that it is NOT a REPLICA. Whenever i consider a "Look a Like" watch, as long as it has its own branding, I can sit comfortable with my economic place within society & wear it proudly so to speak. Great vid Ivan, keep up the gòod work.
Thanks for that! Yes, I agree, strictly speaking as long as it's not trying to ape the original in *every way* (especially with regards to putting a false brand name on the watch) it should still be considered an homage. The litmus test is that no one can actually try to sell this off as a Nomos!
So nice to meet a fellow non-snob.You echoed my sentiments exactly.
How much of this watch in rupiah ?
Good question... please let me know what you find out!
Wow these spruiking posts are getting very coordinated!
I bought a guanqin like Jody's, the black face, and it's a super watch. Under 100 cdn. Seiko, sapphire, nicely sized and it looks great. I was pleasantly surprised. Guanqin seems to be the best bet from gear best, I'll happily get another one.
Thanks for that Derek - well so far I have to agree, Guanqin seem to a cut above the others I have had in hand!
As a real Nomos is far beyond my budget, this is an acceptable choice for me. It is well made and looks good. Yes it is a copy, who cares! Thanks for this review, it is more important to me than a review of a Rolex i can't afford.
I just ordered a Quanqin quartz. I can't wait to wear it. See you in your next video!
Thanks Joop - that's great to hear! Do let us know how you find it in hand when it arrives! Cheers, Ivan.
Joop - I just got my copy of this watch last week, and I can't stop wearing it, in spite of all my other collection of watches. It is just such a good looking, clean, honest watch, I really like it. Under 100? Give me a break!
Awesome man, that is great to hear! It's such a compelling piece it still remains in regular rotation for me despite the dozens of watches rotating in! :)
a Guanqin QUARTZ? well, does it have the sweeping second hand movement?
Thanks so much for reviewing this. I have had this in my shopping cart for ages with a view to purchasing. I thought it was the best looking of all the Guanqin watches. I had no idea it was an homage to a Nomos at an astronomical price. After your review, I’m treating myself to one!
Thanks for that Anthony, that's great to hear! They use this term "influencer" for CZcamsrs like myself... sometimes I do wonder if we actually influence anyone :)
Guanqin watches amaze me. They are truly gorgeous watches.
Well for what you have to pay, they do put out some astounding pieces :)
This was a very good review, thoughtful and fair. Objectively, it also seems to be a pretty decent watch for the price. My problem is that $100 is a lot for a watch without any real identity. I can more easily justify the $20 Tevise sub homage that you and Jody both covered, as it's actually a decent beater or fun impulse buy. However, for $100, you can get a Seiko, Orient, or very nice Casio G-shock, etc. with a real identity. That's a bit of a dilemma for me. Thanks!
By "identity," do you mean watches that are not homages? If that's the concern, then you could look into Guanqin's non-homage watches, such as the $62 Guanqin reviewed by JustOneMoreWatch. If by "identity" you mean brand name recognition, then I would ask whether the thing itself (the quality of the watch, say, getting Sapphire and manual wind on a Guanqin vs. Hardlex and non-hacking on a slightly more expensive Seiko) don't overcome that hang-up? If by "identity" you mean history and track-record and say, in-house manufacturing, well, people at one point said the same of "Jap Crap" vs. American or European manufacturing, and they sure as heck don't say that now. Not disagreeing with you, just voicing the counterpoints that came to mind upon reading yours.
Thanks for the comments guys... a lot of valid thoughts in there. Henry has provided a comprehensive response which covers much of my own thoughts, and he has said it better too! I would only add... there is a *30% discount code* in the video description which I forgot to mention, that may tip the scales for you perhaps :)
TheGoodwolfe you are 100% correct the $ 70 Lambda has no name recognition like Seiko, Orient or Casio but remember these three famous brands also DON'T make a $ 70 dollar watch that LOOKS ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE A $ 20,000 NOMOS ... This is a FUN watch for anyone familiar with this very exclusive overpriced Swiss luxury brand & just want to enjoy that look on the wrist real CHEAP meaning not pay 20K.
@@jamessantana2071 NOMOS is a German brand
Guanqin watches are beautiful and very accurate. They may not last a lifetime but for a decade you will wear something beautiful on your wrist.
Glad you have enjoyed your Guanqin watches! :)
Of the Chinese brands this is my favorite
I bought the Cadisen badged version of this based on your review. I’m really pleased with it, it looks great, does the job very well and at $73 $AU, is outstanding value. Chinese watches allow me in my retirement the ability to have great looking and performing watches without breaking the bank 👍🏼
That's awesome man, this is a great homage model. Glad to hear you're enjoying it! :)
Oh man ! I'm about to buy the cadisen as well . Can you please tell me if it's a real nh35 seiko movement??? Or is it misleading and it's a Chinese movement?
@@orfatron as far as I can tell it’s a genuine NH 35. Keeps great time and looks great too. I binned the Milanese style band and replaced it with a stainless bracelet from another Chinese watch.
Rotating my watches I feel that the purchase of the GUANQIN 'NOMOS - Lambda' homage a year a half ago was a smart idea.
I still have mine too! :)
How well did it hold up?
@@GeometryDashKenaz : the test of time has been perfectly passed.
I just ordered the blue dialed model from Gearbest for $68 USD shipped. I've always admired Nomos designs so this gives me a chance to wear something similar to see if I truly like it.
Good discounted price that - hope you enjoy it as much as I have! :)
Good point that while it's a rather shameless knock off, it apes a watch that's both well beyond most people's means and so obscure that it's unlikely many people are knowledgeable enough to identify the design origin. Wish I didn't have such narrow wrists; the 42mm case size and especially the 50mm lug to lug distance will look silly on me. Thanks for the thoughtful review!
Thanks for the generous comment Marc - glad you have enjoyed aspects of this review!
Marc Hills REF your comment "It will look silly on me" ... My exact thoughts only reverse, with my bulky 7 1/2 inch wrist I only wore 46mm plus watches BUT last year saw PerthWAtch #18 Vid on the 38mm Maurice Masterpiece Moonphase & decided to Experiment & try a girly 39mm Orient Star Retrograde (from Creation Watches), & to my Pleasant SURPRISE got used to it after a month & now own several Vintage small dress watches ... Also, some small watches like the 39mm Bucherer T-Graph Tonneau wears Much larger (& reverse) ... Bottom line, if you really LIKE a watch try it, may become a FAVORITE. Major Jim, USMC
Bully for you bucking the modern over-sized watch trend. I have embarrassingly tiny wrists but still felt insecure when I got my Seiko SNK805 field watch with a 37mm case. For about a day and then it seemed perfectly proportioned. Funny thing is, I've taken to wearing vintage (1960s and 1970s) mechanical men's watches off eBay and those (typically 32-36mm) are dwarfed by that SNK805. 36mm or less was the norm for men's watches only a few decades ago. Thick-wristed guys had absolutely no issue wearing them in generations past. We (myself included) are such slaves to the prevailing fashion trends of the day.
I agree with your comments re size.
I recently picked up a similar Nomos knock-off on e-bay UK, a Nomos Glashute. Automatic, no power reserve or hand winding but display case back and 40mm width. This is my upper limit really as my wrists are only 6.5 inch. It runs very well and looks the dogs on the wrist.
Less than £20 quid delivered. The firm also do a very handsome looking Mondaine station clock (WATCH) at the same price, and a couple of gorgeous Braun copies, quartz versions at less than £12 delivered. The Braun copies are 36 or 38mm across.
Might be worth a look.
Whoops. The company is ESSUK.
ESS Minimal Automatic Analog Men's Watch Silver Brown Leather Luxury White Dial
So I got my own 'Nomos' replica, identical, to this Guanqin, but labeled 'Cadisen' (C1030).
It does not have the German spelling error at '3', power scale goes up to 42hr (seems accurate), it costs a little less than the Guanqin ($37).
Out of the box it would run 45s/day fast, so I fixed it myself, using Android's Tickoprint software for a speedy calibration, I noticed that the accuracy varies significantly with the power reserve:
I can get +3s/day out of my watch now, if keeping the spring load above 30hrs. The less power is left the FASTER these movements run. Apparently they are not very well compensated for the spring load variation. Causing the amplitude to drop, which in return increases the frequency of the balance wheel.
At 8hr reserve the watch will run more than 1sec/hr fast..
We get what we pay for.
I saw another interesting China watch with power reserve indicator and a quasi real (12hr) tourbillon:
Nesun 9081. At $100 it seems to be the lowest priced tourbillon design on the market these days
You want to test THAT one? I trust your expertise and would like to hear what you think about this weird movement with a 'regulator' style face!
Thank for sharing your experience... I think the relatively poor isochronism is par for the course with these watches, with variation in accuracy depending on power reserve, position, temperature, etc... so to get yours running that well is pretty good.
That pseudo-tourbillon looks very interesting... I wonder how much it is actually a tourbillon, and whether it's in fact something else entirely. I will try to get my hands on one, but will depend on what my collaborators may have in stock.
Cheers, Ivan.
This is absolutely the difference between the homage / knockoffs from China and the real thing. They are usually not very well compensated for the power reserve they have. This watch specifically has less than half the power reserve of the Lambda (but it does have the automatic and date complications), so it should be somewhat accurate and doesn't need to be manually wound at all if the rotor is balanced well (which is an if all by itself).
The Lambda is also made out of precious metals (either rose or white gold case), and has hand-engraved balance bridge, both of which ad hugely to the cost. Not to mention that the 84 hour power reserve is an astounding mechanical achievement for a hand-built watch, as the spring compensation becomes really difficult for an accurate watch with such a big power reserve. System 51 by Swatch has an automatic mechanism with 72 hour power reserve, but those are all machine-assembled and made in plastic or steel at best, which brings the cost down significantly.
Thanks for the detailed comment Vahala! Check out the ETA C07.111 (uses an 2824 base) and other similar movements used within various Swatch group brands - it's got a surprising 80 hours power reserve (although of course not hand built).
@@viciokas1993 The common misconception is that Chinese make cheap stuff that are inferior. But I would like to respectfully correct it by saying: Chinese make cheap stuff based on the demand of frugal westerners. Chinese can also make extremely complicated, sophisticated and well polished objects with craftsmanship unsurpassed by any for thousands years. You will have to pay millions for those and they are not really sold to westerners.
Still working quite well after a year
Awesome man, good to hear :)
Great review.
I actually did the opposite, i saw this watch on AliExpress and thought : damn that can’t be right: mechanical watch with power reserve and date display for $89 and the aesthetics is on point, didn’t even know then that is was off the Lambda Nomos.
So , waiting for mine impatiently and for all of you who are complaining about petty issues, this is absolute bang for your bucks and i own expensive time pieces.
Thanks for the comment - I’m sure you’ll enjoy it! :)
Best Gear Best watch yet Ivan. Looks quite nice - even the bracelet looks good.
Thanks Samuel, it was surprisingly good in hand, the website pics just don't convey it well :)
Great review! I am having no problems with the three Guanqin watches I own (inc this one) and got them all
Thank you for that... dark blue nylon... do mean a NATO strap?
Perth WAtch Not exactly, its a solid color Seiko band with matching fabric keepers. It seems like nylon but could be some other water resistant material. btw, i also have the Cadison version of this homage with black dial and the guanqin wears a bit larger (less ideal with my 6.25" wrist) due in part to its wider lug width and slightly different case design (though still 42mm). I appreciate the decent quality of these mesh bands, but usually opt for complimentary color fabric or leather. Anyway, keep up the good work.
Ah thanks for clarifying... interesting strap!
Perth WAtch No problem! I just saw what looks like the exact sane straps (ZLIMSN nylon mesh) on Aliexpress for 50% of the usual $3.99 price. LOL I wonder if seiko gets them for even less snd just installs the Seiko buckle and puts them on their watches. :-D
Haha you might be uncomfortably close to the truth!
Thanks for the review. I agree the only weak point looks like an inexpensive clasp, but everything else is top notch. I ordered one from Gearbest and can't wait to receive it. It is a big larger than watches I normally wear, but a unique and beautiful style. I wish you would also review a Cadisen model C8090M, automatic movement, tungsten, 21 jewels Miyota movement, Sapphire. It looks beautiful but I don't know much about the company.
Thanks for that - hope you enjoy it, it's certainly a keeper for me although if you look at the Nomos Lambda you'll see it's not unique at all but rather heavily inspired.
The C8090M model (if the pics I see are correct) looks like one of those "look like chronograph" layouts without actually being a chronograph, which I will pass on. I have reviewed the C1031 model before: czcams.com/video/ulphVQXZFhQ/video.html
@@PerthWAtch Hi, ok, thanks for the reply and heads up. I enjoy your channel and reviews.
$55 now, and choice of several colors! 👍
Haha that's cool! :)
Hello Ivan, Sweden here again.
I May have commented before but that is a rather nice timepeice.
People I socialize with would probably think that it cost a fortune, looks like it anyway for sure. I think I will buy one just for fun.
Thanks for that Peder, it really is a pretty nice piece for the budget asking price. All the best :)
Cadisen has their version on alix for $60, looks the same without the Chinese sounding name. Not sure about the 15mm thickness probably going to be a deal killer. Besides that watch looks great and thanks for the review
Thanks for that - it does indeed look very similar although they've put 42h on the dial, movement looks the same though. As for thickness I have to say it doesn't sit badly at all... the case back has a dome shape and the lugs curve down, playing it down nicely. Also, I forgot to mention the *30% discount code* in the video description, bringing the price down to near the same. Cheers, Ivan.
The Cadisen claims mineral crystal, not sapphire. With these OEM catalog watches, different options may be chosen that will raise or lower the per unit cost, like sapphire vs mineral, and level of water resistance.
I bought the twelve-square round case/dial Guanqin after Jodys Just One More Watch review. It performs well, it has a Seiko NH36 movement, safir chrystal and 316L stainless steel. Sadly it shows no powerreserve and no handwinding. As a dress watch it will have a place in my collection.👍🏻😉😉
Thanks for sharing that - power reserve is actually relatively uncommon, haven't had many watches feature that complication. Hand wind is nice to have but in reality once you start it up it will never need winding as long as it stays on the wrist. Cheers, Ivan.
Perth WAtch Sorry, I was some unclear...without a display for powerreserve, I meant!! Sorry! I think NH36 have a powerreserve up to 38-40 hours!
Yeah sorry, I meant power reserve *display* as a complication is relatively uncommon. NB. also the more correct term is "energy reserve" actually.
I'm almost certain the NH36 movement has hand-winding . . . Are you saying that it's defective, or has been hobbled?
Henry Nguyen Many Thanks to your comment!! I’ve tried again on the small crown to wind my Guanqin, and it works, it does handwind!! Without your comment I was in belief that it didn’t handwind!! You have solved a problem for me! A big thank!! 👌🏻👌🏻😉
Having watched your extremely fair review of this watch I decided to buy one. Ali X at £42.50. Arrived within 7 days and this watch is quietly excellent. Movement is quieter than I was expecting and the accuracy is frankly brilliant at +2 secs/day. (I don't have all the techy machinery to judge this, just but it against my Citizen eco-drive quartz which seemed a fair comparison for accuracy). I have large wrists, 8 inches and it's so pleasing to find a Bauhaus themed watch like this, at 42mm width. The more usual 38mm is frankly too small. Yes I know it's a Nomos rip-off, but let's be fair, pricewise, a lot Nomos watches ARE a rip-off in themselves. Keep up the good work and thank you for bringing this watch to my attention.
Thanks for sharing that - glad you’ve had a good experience and are really enjoying the watch! :)
Is the glass scratch resistant?
They all claim to be scratch resistant but you can definitely scratch it if you bang it....
@@jaison-77 I have no idea if mine is sapphire or mineral crystal, I'm not the most careful and I have knocked the watch on more than one occasion and I've yet to notice any scratches. As Ivan says, they all claim good scratch resistance and you have to take a punt sometimes.
This is an excellent homage watch which is probably the equal to the Nomos in accuracy and durability. Power reserve is up there with the Swiss movements as is the accuracy. For the price you can't beat it in terms of looks and quality.
P.S. a lot of fake NOMOS watches are turning up on Wish. They are not automatics like the real deal (using a Sunon quartz movement) and they can be easily spotted as they use a non-curved lens. However they do look the part and are hard to spot unless you watch the sweep of the second hands.
Thanks for sharing that... from my use of this watch (as well as what others have reported) the power reserve isn't always as advertised... often running considerably shorter than the stated 40 hours on the dial. Mine typically stops at the 15 hours mark (i.e. around 25 hours effective power reserve). Still, this is a watch I have hung onto all this time! :)
@@PerthWAtch A lot of the Chinese auto movements have very variable power reserves. I keep mine in a winding box but if you have the watch on as a regular timepiece and even wear it to bed (as some blokes do) then it will just keep running.
BTW, those NOMOS quartz fakes I mentioned are actually quite good if you want a basic quartz watch with a off-centre second sweep hand. The Sunon movement keeps good time BUT I don't know about the longevity. The actual watches themselves look just the part. All the dial labelling is present and correct.
Yeah that's my experience in that they do keep running on the wrist but some have commented they have issues with the Tongji movement not winding very well via rotor as it wasn't designed as an automatic.
Nice watch and band.
Great Bid by the way😀
Thanks for that - glad you enjoyed it :)
What a homage! I have ordered mine for just $47 dollars including insurance and free expedited shipping. I got other Guanqin watch and I think is a real bang for the buck. Thanks for your review.
Awesome man, I hope you enjoy it as much as I have! :)
How did you get it that cheap?
Guanqin has a lot of watches on sale that are almost identical. E.g. one that's even closer to the 'original' - without a Day indicator -, and another I've seen had the Second indicator at a slightly different place (offset to the right). The Review might not apply to those, those were actually only around 30$ so even cheaper (but no way of knowing if they compare).
Yeah you're right about those other models. Some of what you have seen might in fact be a quartz version, which I have seen listings on, and that definitely doesn't compare. Otherwise the $30 models may not have sapphire. Power reserve on an automatic is not as common, so this one might be a more "premium" version...
love it!!
Thanks for that :)
The power reserve is actually over 40 hours.
The movement is a Dixmond Guangzhou.
They may say it’s over 40 hours but in reality it doesn’t actual do that ;)
“It” says 35 at the top of the scale actually, can’t you see??
Not bad for the price, but too big. The original Nomos is just as big? As you mention, it is a "obscure" model and I do not know anything about it.
Hi there! Yes the model this watch copies is the same 42mm, but I think Nomos also have a smaller version... 39mm I think. It's easy to search up the Nomos Lambda. Cheers, Ivan.
Hi my friend, I'm all Brazilian, I'm fascinated by these watches, it makes me a doubt, please, Guanqin brand is totally trustworthy. Other models of gearbeast in the value of 50 dollars. Automatically, they're of quality. I searched for several channels, but I can not succeed. Guanqin watches but I doubt if they are worth or tips from other brands of quality of the gearbeast
Hi there! I think Guanqin brand seem to be fair... they don't have any terrible reports that I have heard of. I mean, they're not outstanding either, and people aren't shouting about it in the streets, but they seem to be better than a lot of the cheaper Chinese brands that consistently have QC issues.
Perth WAtch thank you friend!
Thanks for the review....I didn't know about the water test for sapphire crystals.
Hi Chris - yeah I'm not sure if there are videos about this, but there are quite a few forum discussions I have seen.
I've done the water drop test on two budget Chinese watches (sub $50) that claimed to have Sapphire Crystal, and both of them passed. It's not a foolproof test, as I understand false positives are possible, but it's encouraging to see that all three watches (including this Guanqin) passed the initial test.
Beautiful watch
Thanks for that - I think it's a pretty good homage!
It is not sapphire. In fact, the Guanqin Store at Aliexpress blocked me for saying that in one of my comments...
Yeah, check out my video using a diamond tester on a number of these types of watches, demonstrating it’s not sapphire
Would be a great homage if not for the particular ways in which they've dropped attention to detail. Typeface is not suitable and, worse, the kerning is way off. But mostly it seems the hands are far too thick. This shows they don't get the point of the design and is an insult to Bauhaus. How hard would it be to make it look more like what Nomos intended?
Yep, I think you're pretty much on the ball with all those shortcomings. It's very much a superficial copy, and I don't think there is any great attempt to actually understand the underpinnings of Bauhaus design. Still, what is it they say? "Imitation is the highest form of flattery"? ;)
Hey, great video! Have you found that the power reserve goes past the 38 hour mark, when you wind or wear the watch?
Thank you in advance!
Thanks - yeah another viewer commented that his watch does that, but mine actually stops at around that mark and doesn't go past.
Perth WAtch thank you for the response. Love your videos! Have a wonderful day ahead!!
The model number, which is easily found with minimal research, is the Guanqin GJ16106
Thanks - I will incorporate.
PS. Minimal research today does not mean minimal research at the time of making this video - to prove that, you will have to travel back in time ;)
For $70, this appears to be a good deal. You mentioned how the automatic is supposed to work to keep the watch wound, however you didn't mention how well this model does.Some brands, not very well known, from China, have problems with the rotor not spinning freely enough to wind the watch. Not being sure of the movement brand, can you tell me how well the rotor works on this model? If the rotor does a good job, and if it is accurate within 10 secs plus or minus, then I would for sure consider getting this watch. Great review, and if you can add some information as to the working of the rotor, that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for that Jim - well I guess I didn't mention the rotor function because it works as well as any Japanese or Swiss model I have - if I'm wearing the watch then it will unfailingly charge the reserve up to full within about a work day (8 hours or so), and it never drops down as along as it stays on my wrist. Accuracy wise it's tuned to about +5 seconds/day for me, although accuracy drops when the reserve is allowed to fall to around 15 hours or less. Cheers, Ivan.
Ivan, thank you for the reply and information. No doubt now that this is a solid watch at a very good price. I will be adding one to my collection very soon!
All the best with that Jim - I'm sure you will enjoy it! :)
Hello i heve 1 question The movement of this watch its durable & confiable?????
No far no problems :)
That's a beautiful watch! Just surprised they haven't had a knock on the door from Nomos's lawyers yet! Lol 🤣
Pretty much doesn’t happen in China - just look at all the Rolex knockoffs ;)
beautiful,how is it running as of april 25,2018?
Thanks for that - well it still gets regular rotation onto my wrist and still runs fine! Only point I would make is that it runs slow when the reserve gets down to around 12 hours, which doesn't happen as long as it's on the wrist, only happens when left off.
hi thans for your review.is not saphire but ok.watching now in 2021 stay safe
Thanks :)
Im just curious hows the case ?? Its good ? I mean i know it wont be 316L
Case craft is ok, it may be 304 steel rather than 316.
Nice review. Greetings from Spearwood...
Thanks for that Martin - always great to hear from fellow Aussies, and even better a local! :)
Nice review!
Thanks man! :)
Hi... Would you be kind enough to tell how the watch is functioning now....i plan on buying it and i really wanna know
Still working fine, but as a watch reviewer no single watch gets much wrist time!
@@PerthWAtch thank you so much....i was unsure about the movement.... Whether or not it stood the test of time!!
2 Brands using the same watch on aliexpress. Binger and Cadison. For Cadisen they replied to me it is mineral crystal. I ordered for $48 as I like the more simple text of ''Automatic" on the right rather than copied german text. For the price these watches are at I highly doubt it is sapphire. Another brand called 飞克(feike) only on chinese sites with a different case at higher price of $130 has mineral glass too. Feike(飞克) pronounced in chinese sounds more like "fake" than english lol
Thanks for sharing that... I don't think the price precludes the possibility it is sapphire, nor does a high price mean it naturally has to be sapphire. My $60 Guanqin Seiko dress watch water drop test suggests it's sapphire. On the other hand my $1000 Shogun has mineral glass.
I've found a Nesun brand that looks just like this also on Gearbest.. if you're looking for something without the Chinese namebrand
Nesun still sounds like a Chinese brand to some, so does Cadisen and other names that market copies of this.
Shit U one up Jody! Working power reserve n sub second 😱.
Haha thanks for that... I don't think we see it as a competition like that... plus I had to pump in double my GearBest budget to get this model as compared with the Seiko movement one Jody chose.
Perth WAtch u should a little friendly rivalry is good for business.
Did you mention the 30 percent off coupon code in the description?
Good point - I don't think I did, but it's there for anyone who clicks through :)
VERY VERY HARD DECISION WHAT WILL I CHOOSE ??? Can't seem to be able to decide between the simple plain minimal look of the NOMOS and the VERY SIMILAR simple plain minimalistic automatic GUANQIN ... Let's see ... pay $ 20,000 or pay $ 70 with the "WATCH3" thirty percent discount ... mmm THIS IS A HARD ONE ... I'm not a rich celebrity, NOT a company president, NOT a spoiled rich Swiss kid ... mmm HARD ONE ... I'LL TAKE THE GUANQIN !!! Major Jim, US Marines
Haha... wise choice I reckon. But... what if the Nomos was truly 200x better than the Guanqin?? Might be worth pushing for that extra $19900... just a thought ;)
Does anyone know anything about Binger watches from China ?
Not familiar with Binger myself... at least not yet :)
As I'm to that look for some time now I'm really considering that watch, but, as a German, it pisses me off soooo much, that the "36 Stunden" is German, but "Energyreserve" right on top is not! (It would be correct with an IE instead of the Y even though in that context it would be "Gangreserve" more accuratr AS mentioned...). Near-Hit I would say...
Thanks for sharing that - yeah I too find it a very odd decision on their part to mix multiple languages in this watch!
Doesn't it look a bit silly? "Energyreserve", I mean, come on !
They could have written it in Chinese, with the other lines on Chinese as well. It would have looked more "typical", ginven it a bit more "local" charm. Just my 2 cents.
That would make some logical sense, but in my experience of Chinese watches so far (which has been quite extensive) and broader experience of Chinese culture, that is something they just would not tend to do... many reasons behind that but wanting to reach a more global audience would be part of it.
@@user-et8vm9cc3t yeah, agree on that, however most of these chinese brands try to hide their origin, often starting with the name, trying to sound old fashioned european...really a missed chance here!
Indeed ! Assuming their Chinese identity would have probably been a lot better than a silly "Energyreserve" or "Perlative Cerenometer". Plus (at least to me) it looks cool(er) to have the name in the original language, be that Chinese, Russian, Japanese or whatever.
The manufacturer of this watch made a big mistake by having the second subdial same level as the main dial. This has resulted in the second hand comming tip to tip with hour hand. whenever time hits06:33 and 35 seconds.the watch will freeze.
Will only resume if you change time to 06:40
I think a manufacturer modifuication is needed where a depressed second hand sub dial will make comfortable room for the rotation of second hand without contact with hour hand .
Thanks for making a detailed comment on that problem! That is very curious to hear - I take it you experienced this problem yourself in this model? I have just checked mine, including putting it to 6:33 and waiting for the seconds to past 35 secs, and don't have any such problem. I can see a gap between the second and hour hands when they pass each other, so perhaps it's an isolated manufacturing fault? Sure doesn't seem like a universal problem as some owners have shared their experiences here. Regards, Ivan.
Nice watch
It is, and still my favourite of this brand :)
I'd be tempted even if it looked like a dinner plate on me.
For around $80 it's an affordable try! :)
Is that a good movement?
Not really proven as yet, but getting a better track record with time :)
you can ask them to review a diamond detector,and use it to know when the watches are saphire or not.
Who is “them”?
@@PerthWAtch Gearbest
They will not listen
@@PerthWAtch i thougt that because i understood that they provide the watch for review,and i see a bunch of watch reviews where the person doing it cant be sure if its saphire or not,but the machine its not expensive in comparison with the prices of many rewieved watches.
This is not sapphire
everything looks great. Except the company name.
Thanks Timothy - you're Han chinese also? Can I ask what do you dislike about the name?
Because it's Chinese? I like the name. To me, it's an honest name that sees no reason to disguise its heritage. Far better that than some made-up name. To mirror a point in another comment I made to this video, the names Seiko, Samsung, Nissan, etc. used to sound unfortunately foreign too. But time showed that unfortunate sound to be in the ear of the beholder, not in anything unfortunate about the companies or their names. Guanqin. If you say it a few times, and find yourself favorably impressed by one of their watches (as Ivan seems to have been with this one), I reckon it won't sound half bad! (of course, if you buy some of their watches and they suck, then their name will sound worse, and rightly so).
Henry Nguyen I think you made a very good point. I guess it's some internal bias. But partly also I don't like the sound of the name. Personal preference. For eg. I like Xiaomi products and name. But I don't really like the Huawei name. Similar case here
Perth WAtch yup. I think Nguyen made a great point actually. Some internal bias I guess but also preference. Eg I like Xiaomi and the name but not so much HuaWei. I'd love to have more trustworthy Chinese brands like seagull. Parnis is pretty good, but they aren't one company. That's where trust issues start. If they were all made by one company with good QC and warranties, I'd get more in a heartbeat.
Perth WAtch btw thanks for the reviews of affordable watches
Is it still running now?
Actually, yes it is! :)
Is this watch made using electron microscope????
Haha what? That's a strange question...
Perth WAtch how about other like aircraft or train or others panel sensor
I'm sorry, I honestly don't understand what you're getting at...
Perth WAtch microscope are getting cheaper just like electronic
Sure, but I'm not sure what the relevance is to watchmaking...?
Bought this and just does not feel right. Rattly when shaken and the manual winding also felt real cheap. You do get what you pay for in this regards. Gave mine away after wearing it once.
Thanks for sharing that - how interesting, it seems like the QC is either variable or has deteriorated? Mine feels fine to me, certainly not rattly, just the normal rotor feel, and manual wind feels much the same as a Seiko NH35 movement.
呢款幾錢港幣，鋪頭響邊？
Sorry I am trying to understand - are you asking how much is this in Hong Kong? I think you can just convert the price direct from USD listed on website...
sadly, the printing is dumb. "Energyreserve 35 Stunden" is two languages on one dial -.- .... correct: "Energiereserve". but in germany the correct word is "Gangreserve". the chinese maybe didnt know, that "Gangreserve" is no (C) word and just means "Power Reserve"....
so this watch will make every german laugh. especially germans, who own a nomos. hopefully they will correct this issue one day.
Thanks for sharing that! Yeah I'm not sure it's a deliberate attempt to change the word slightly or just lack of awareness. You could argue "energyreserve" is not even English given the lack of a space, and that "Guanqin" is actually Chinese (romanised of course) giving no less than FOUR languages on the dial. Perhaps a record of some sort? :)
thats typical chinese lowcost. you also can find some funny stuff on the back of chinese watches like "automatic have jewels". i dont understand, why they cant even pay a student for translating a dozen of words. or maybe they WANT us to wear such watches 3:) ...
They may well have paid a student I reckon... have you seen how millennials spell? It's all LOL, AFAIK, ROFL, LMAO... even a Gen Xer like me needs a translation service ;)
PS. I might not mind a watch that tells others that I have jewels :D
:D so meanwhile - do have any experience in durabiltity and accuracy?
Accuracy wise this runs around +10spd for me... although it slows down once the reserve reaches about 15 hours. I can't say much for durability as I haven't really done any rough work, so far so good though!
It’s 20mm lug to lug not 22mm. Looking at this video I ended buying the wrong one. Show yourself measuring it if you don’t know. Don’t just guess man
Apologies - that was simply a mistake in documentation. It's bizarre that you think I guessed it!
Did you buy the wrong watch or the wrong strap? If the former, how did you manage to do that after I provided links as well as the model number? If the latter, well what can I say, why didn't you confirm it yourself!?
Perth WAtch
Well please accept my humble apology for assuming that you guessed it. I bought the right Watch not any other model, I bought the wrong size additional strap I wanted. You’re right I should’ve confirmed/measured it myself. Rookie mistake
No worries at all... I have put an erratum at the beginning of the video description highlighting the mistake, hopefully this might be helpful to others!
I... don't want to support this watch. But damn that's a nice bracelet!
Haha well you *could* just get a generic one of that bracelet... but actually the watch itself is not bad!
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What??
Wear nomos in one hand and guanqin in the other.
Haha yes, all sorts of over the top fashion combinations one could come up with like that! :)
Available for less on aliexpress (57 euros ... far from 100$), with differents colors and leather band (black, brown ...).
Too much "cloned" on Nomos ... except if you want a replica ... It could be a nice watch !
It will be more interesting, if you don't just talk about your sponsor ....viewer need more infos about movement , precision within 24h ( how many seconds etc ) etc
philippe!
Thank you for your feedback! Please understand that it's not really my choice to talk about the sponsor - it is a requirement. No mention, no more watches - I prefer to maintain the collaboration thank you.
I believe I have mentioned *everything* relevant about the movement apart from regulated accuracy - what else do you want to know? I used to talk about accuracy but I think that's actually not very helpful because you can easily regulate to very good performance and the factories often don't.
Yes yes available for less elsewhere unless you factor the discount code I provided, which makes it the same ;)
Im getting one to wear as a gag to my AD when I go to order my real onw this year (:
Sounds like a cool dare to do! :D
Nice Review-I am DISAPPOINTED that the one I bought from Gearbest.com has a faulty auto-winder and has stopped three nights in a row when I have taken it off. Hopefully Gearbest.com will honor my request for an exchange.
Thanks for that Ralph - I hear that they're pretty good at offering exchange but you may have to cover the shipping back. I generally advise using PayPal as you can activate the bulletproof buyer protection is needed. All the best with that!
Gearbest is fighting me on getting an exchange, even though I have provided photos and video proof. Further updates to come.
You didn't happen to use PayPal did you??
I used a credit card. I don't know what protection that affords me.
Ah I see... if it falls through, it may be worth checking your policy, they may have something to protect, hopefully simple to activate.
I generally is still disappointed with CHINA made watches despite i was trying my best to give them benefit of the doubt. i test purchased tevise t801 as per another aussie Watch guy recommended on his chanel (that gentlement with the scots or irish accent) . but to my disappointment. the movement isn't as accurate as many reviews raved about. also you ought to have include in your review a verification on whether the power reserve as true to the scale or dial implied or the Power reserve is NOT fully representative or true. e.g. scale mention 35 but could only be 28 . OR if it exceeded the 35 hours etc . and how efficient is the automatic movement without winding
Thanks for that - good point about commenting on the reserve scale. Well I can say it's accurate, and power reserve is actually around 35h but it has tendency to stop at lower power, around 10h or so, but will start again on giving it a slight move or wind. I only was able to find out more with longer use after I have filmed this. So it's far from perfect but that's no surprise. As for the Tongji movement of the Tevise, well I think accuracy out of the box will be very variable, but that's the same for Seiko even... it is however also relatively easy to regulate to accuracy if you are inclined to do so.
Who on Earth pays $20k for a Nomos anyway?
Apparently enough people to keep the company going rather well :)
Well, if not for those annoying typos everywhere, it would be a great watch. They should work on their spelling a bit xD
Some might consider those special words endearing :D
Even if the watch is crap or konks out, the bracelet can be salvaged to be used on another 🤣
That is indeed true! Although if you just want a bracelet specifically like that you could get it for less than half the price of this watch... :)
Am I the only one thinking I would make a complete fool of myself wearing a watch with a spelling error on the watch face??? The word "Energyreserve" is wrong both in English (energy reserve) and in German (Energiereserve or better Gangreserve).
Yeah you’re the only one who has commented as such. When I wear this people who notice the watch comment on the style, and nobody is ever concerned about the wordings.
I was going to buy this watch. I'm glad I didn't. Bit of an immature timepiece really. That spelling mistake is just the nail in the coffin. It's not sapphire btw. Far too thick even for a dumb knock off. If I got that watch it would decorate the corner of my watch case.
You can thank me later.
Thank you for sharing your opinion Barnaby. I think that "spelling mistake" is actually deliberate. Also would be helpful if you gave reference as to why you think it's not sapphire. This watch honestly remains one of my favourite from this brand, above all the other models I've reviewed. What do you think I should thank you for later?
"Energyreserve" :D That's not even a word. This watch is like an Adidos Sneaker. I wouldn't wear it.
Why not? Nothing wrong with Adidos or Adidas ;)
@@PerthWAtch That's just me. I don't judge anyone for wearing this, but in my eyes this is just a blantant copy. I respect "homage" watches. For example homages of submariners, which are not produced anymore. But this looks like a chinese brand just copied a popular design. Maybe i prejudge, but i would not wonder, if the manufacturer do not even know what bauhaus design is. I don't want to bash chinese watchmakers in general - i really like the Seagull 1963 for example. But i would rather buy a cheap Seiko, Citizen or Orient, than this one.
@@PerthWAtch also the chosen fonts are terrible - but again - that's just me :P
Actually I understand all those points you brought up, they are fair enough. I was more wondering about your analogy of Adidas - what's wrong with them? Or is it "Adidos" which is a copy brand? (I've never heard of them)
Under thé watch TERPROOF REOSISTANT. Some thing like waterproof resistant. Funny !
for the price, i think it’s ok......
One of the best Chinese mushroom brands I reckon :)
Can’t wait until the movement drops dead! 9 months left...
Sounds like a pregnancy timeframe ;)
Beautiful watch but I hate that it’s a knock off 😭
At these prices they tend to be…
@@PerthWAtch They’re extremely talented putting these watches together if I’m being honest
Get something Tevise instead
Sound advise, if looking for cheaper and inferior product ;)
Perth WAtch after researching more this guanqin is really nice but a Tevise is good too
I would say that all 4 Guanqin watches I have are definitely superior than my 3 Tevise - they cost more but are a different tier of watch.
Name brands are overrated and way overpriced as long as it tells the time.
It’s funny thing, this world of horology
It is piece of shit
I bought different types
Only works for 30 days
Just don’t waste your money
Thank you for your comment - sorry to hear about your bad experience. My Guanqin watches have worked for over a year now, and still going fine.
Why keep doing chinese watches?
Daryl Koh ...because this watch is $100 and the lambda is $20k?
It's a fair question... let me share a little insight: I don't have a budget for the channel, it's done purely out of interest and passion for the subject. Therefore the watches are either mine (limited number!) or borrowed from supporters, or come from collaborations like these. If it's really terrible I will say no, but GearBest gave me a choice and I did my best to choose pieces that are interesting. I hope it's informative!
Nice. I want one. Thank you for the review
Ivan, I would actually humbly ENCOURAGE you to continue reviewing Chinese watches, and, beyond that, to start reviewing more of them. Why? Because there is a market inefficiency for (or more bluntly, a dearth of) quality reviews of quality Chinese watches. Watches on a similar tier to this Guanqin "Nomos Lambda" represent tremendous opportunity; they are still quite unknown, and from what I've gathered, they often offer outsize bang-for-buck value. While the rock-bottom Tevise T801As are fun and worthwhile too (I'd enjoy seeing more of those as well), these higher quality Chinese watches seem to sit at the sweet spot. Surely you noticed how Jody's (JustOneMoreWatch's) Cadisen & Guanqin reviews struck a nerve? Your unbiased and thorough approach, your familiarity with the Chinese language, perhaps even your relative geographic proximity to China, these are all assets that serve particularly well for reviews of Chinese watches. Quality CZcams reviews of better known watch brands (Japanese, Swiss, German, etc.) seem to be fairly common. Not so for the Guanqins of the world. Finally, on your end, these watches are much easier on the budget, even if you were to buy them directly (plenty of intriguing options well below the $100 price point of this Guanqin, especially if you also start diving into AliExpress). Bottom line: the more reviews of Guanqin Nomos Lambdas and their like, the better! Of course, that's just my two cents, and humble ones at that. Love what you're doing with the channel, Ivan. Thumbs up, and keep on rolling with the quality content!
Thank you very much Henry for taking the time to share those valuable thoughts - it's very much appreciated! Well I certainly have no intention to stop featuring Chinese pieces... even if they are no good it is worth showing so that the info is out there. One of my starting mantras was no brand exclusions. GearBest seem keen to continue the collaboration and hopefully they will increase my budget so that I can reach the $150-200 range where we might start seeing consistent quality. You make very good points about some specific assets I have, particularly being ethnic Chinese myself. Cheers, Ivan.
I would feel ashamed to wear such a fake watch. I'd rather buy a reputable watch I can afford than a knock-off of a well-designed expensive watch that many honorable persons have worked on.
Thanks for the feedback - copy watches are not for everyone, for reasons you have clearly articulated.