Is Rory McIlroy Leaving the PGA Tour?
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- Rory McIlroy Leaving the PGA Tour for Good?
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PGA is already starting to feel watered down. If Rory leaves it’s almost over for PGA.
IMO it's already over. They need to get everyone back together through compromise
new players come every year, it isnt almost over and never will be. the pga tour isn’t going anywhere. new superstars will always show up as others leave. If anything, their broadcast quality and excess commercials will hurt them the most.
@@johnedward5520 but you have to believe that Liv will snatch some of those young super stars as well. Then, There could be a point that Live has a huge majority or the top 20 players in the world. So you tune in to a PGA event to watch who wins out of what’s left.
That's not entirely true. Even though I've never heard of most players on the pga tour, there is bound to be some legends among them. Knapp for one.
@@johnedward5520 New players !!! You mean players who can't beat Jon Rahm , Dustin Johnson, Brooks Koepka and several others
Rory is leaving the US and moving back to Europe full time from other news stories I've scene. If he does go DP, he will have the power to sway that Tour to allow amnesty to the LIV guys. Thus making DP tour extremely strong and giving LIV guys a pathway to OWGR points and majors. Game changing move potentially.
Hi. Good point. Question. These guys went to LIV to play less so how is this beneficial to them. Not causing trouble just asking
@@paulc5817LIV already has an elite field plus the signing kids now and not players that are older and more established. They signing 18 and 19 year olds that are top prospects as well to add on the elite players they already have
DJ for one stated at the very beginning that he was going to apply for DPWorld Tour mwmbership but LIV members were rejected by Pelley.
Now that Pelley is gone and if Rory comes back to play "fulltime" on DP then I think there is a higher chance for LIV players to come back a play on DP.
There are also enough possible gaps in the DP Calendar to allow LIVs full calendar and Majors.
Tbh, I think LIV could easily run from October to March. Youbcould have your LIV MiddleEast swing coincide with DPs Middle East/African swing and a couple of LIV events in December along with the Australian Open etc.
With LIV Names, Rory and the best Europe can offer you would genuinely have a Tour that would rival and even overtake PGA
LIV has already overtaken the depleted pga tour and once Roy plays the Masters and moves to London he will join LIV and we will see some great golf competition 😉⛳️😇😊
This is my hot take… share your opinions. I think the PIF will fund the DP Tour then offer Rory a billion dollars to play for LIV, paving the way for them to have the elite world tour?? Especially since the tour got their investments elsewhere. Also a billion is a lot but why wouldn’t they!
I love LIV. i can do without the music but I love the coverage and the shotgun start. All my favorite players are at LIV. Love your channel.
same...I've been an LIV thumper from day 1 but that music drives me insane lol. Can hardly watch really. Not sure I'll get use to it
So you don't like the 4.5 rounds under the same conditions for every player? You prefer the 5.5 plus hour rounds on the PGA Tour under obviously not the same conditions? Just curious
@@kennethmckinney2532 you clearly did not read what OP posted.
@nathancates2627 clearly I misread it lol. I guess I'm so used to the LIV hate. Appreciate you pointing that out. I'm just gonna leave my stupid comment. It happens 👍
@@kennethmckinney2532no worries. In addition to making sure you read something right - give folks the benefit of the doubt too. Cheers
I bet Rory will negotiate some LIV wildcard appearances while also negotiating for Rahm and the LIV guys to play some of the high-profile DPWT events. This would create a bridge of cooperation and strengthen the DPWT fields while giving the LIV guys opportunities to get OWGR points.
Owgr is done it’s already a political joke 😝
Thank you for your content!
Keeping us informed,and entertained.
If Rory is full time DP tour other european players will do the same, the PGA will be US domestic only since the latin american players go to LIV. the DP and the PGA will basically be LIV feeders like Azinger said.
PGA Tour better make the merger
It’s too late Jay Monahan has already destroyed them while making himself rich 😉⛳️😇😊
I actually like LIV better, now. The leaderboards are always more interesting than the PGA. Except for majors, of course.
Likewise
Agreed
Ditto
That’s cause all the competition sold out for the bag
LIV is a better and more entertaining product and I’m really liking the team aspect too
Keep up the good work 👍 I like. Your points view and your updated information 👍
Matt, saw your putter review. Looked liked it was filmed at Atlanta National, which is my home course. Starting my channel soon but would love to pick your brain about the space….
We need one big tour with all of the best guys in the world playing against each other. I don't care who owns it
The LIV players splitting their time with the DP ROLEX events would give them all the world points they are craving…. And the instant pathway back into the Majors for all the top LIV players.
Three LIV guys have already won British Open qualifying tournaments 😉⛳️😂😊
The PGA Tour found out that Saudi Arabia isn’t broke like America. They can buy anything they want. PGA Tour got in business with the wrong companies and now it’s gonna cost them everything. Woke and broke isn’t a punch line, it’s a reality that they are facing.
If Rory leaves I might actually watch a LIV event. Ehh probably not never mind.
LIV is where it’s at. Love it.
We need another weekend of ak highlights!
I think once Rory found out that what the players were told and what was going on behind the scene was different he is more open to it. I dont see him going to LIV, but its still tough because I feel bad for Phil because he has been proven pretty right so far about how the money is distributed and how it could be better for the players.
LIV is Normans current day version of the original WGT concept that the PGA put in place because of players like Nick Price and Greg. Elevated purses, smaller fields and no cuts. These were supposed to be played outside the US. The PGA then decided there was too much money leaking from their coffers and slowly and surely they became US events. LIV is not new, its now just funded by a third party. LIV is the future of pro golf. The US does not own golf. Why would the top golfers play 45 weeks in the US when they could play in Spain, Australia, Singapore, Japan, UAE, Argentina and South Africa ?
I love the LIV coverage. You keep golf news balanced.
After seeing his comments at his presser for the cognizant this week, anything is possible 😂
I think the Rory story will all unfold after this year's masters. If he wins it, he will go to LIV, or if the world ranking points system is sorted for the LIV tour to be included. He will maintain his membership in the DPT WT because l think there is a much better chance that the DPT WT and LIV will come to a joint membership agreement than the PGA & LIV coming up with a deal 🤷
I’m an old fart and I love watching LIV. Especially, their content on CZcams. By the way, Bryson is killing it on CZcams. Very nice person and having fun with Grant Horvath and the Bryan Brothers. That’s even better than the tournaments.
I would love to see some unified league that is structured like European soccer with relegation and promotion based on results. We as fans deserve to see all the best playing each other each weekend. Golf is truly is a broken, splintered state right now. I hope it finds a common ground in the future.
72is 72. The pros in large numbers can all do a round of 60-64. Many can put together 2-3-4 rounds in a row. This isn’t a timed event that o.01 seconds or less separate. This is a shot or maybe 2 that separate many who make 10-20 times the average persons salary in a 3-4 day period
Thanks Matt. This was a good laugh 😂
What was funny?
Was there a joke I missed… please enlighten us all
Change is never easy.
Truth hurts sometimes huh
I’ve felt it coming for a little while now, he will go to LIV
Makes a lot of sense .. a lot of LiV guys already trying to play more DP events.. Sergio is going back to limited DP schedule also
The players I want to watch are on LIV. The format is growing on me. I don’t know half the players on the PGA Tour now it’s a little boring. They should just invite the top players from each tour to the major events so we can see the best play in one tournament.
I really wanna see a LIV matchplay championship as well
Rory is all about the Majors at this point in his life. I think that if he had a Masters in his back pocket he'd have left for LIV awhile ago.
Rory can still play in the Masers if he goes to LIV or Europe. Not sure what you are talking about
He hasn’t won in 10 years. Needs a new strategy
Would be great to see Rory on LIV tour, more than on DP. Next year’s Liv super team (team Vikings): Rory, Hovland, Åberg & Hojgaard - could only dream of😊.
I just can’t get my head around the stupid team names , it’s just not a good thing to me
Spot on
I feel like the PGA Tour has been unlucky this year. A couple of severe weather delays have just made the product feel watered down. LIV is on the rise, definitely. Much of it is due to Rahmbo joining this year, but I genuinely feel like it's a better product, fast-paced, more intriguing and the media dept. is doing a good job of using their top athletes as magnets for new audiences.
I’ll Update you as I’ll be in HK. Come on Matt. Come out to Singapore. Will sponsor u sir. Haha
If LIV gets two more top 10 golfers , PGA is going to be in shambles
I think it's safe to say, it's already in shambles. The leaderboards are atrocious!
I think Rory wants not only to be the boss but more importantly to play the best players .. and that’s Liv
They all need to work this stuff out. When will a new agreement come out? At least have all the top players against each other 15-20 times a year
sounds possible!!
I think you are bang on Matt. Road to Dubai and Rolex series is the World Tour. American players historically haven’t had the appetite for International Travel unless there are appearance fees. Look at Tiger, except the British not really a lot of globe trotting. If Rory goes, the PGA Tour will be diluted to an upgraded Korn Ferry Tour
Rory will get 300bn for signing and still play in the majors. When LIV takes over he PGA in a few years, Rory gets to keep the case.
The AK coverage was the largest Liv coverage I've ever watched.
HOW MUCH?
And that type of league on simulators is not a threat to the PGA tour in my opinion it's it's not even close to the same type of golf keep up the great work love hearing all the information really appreciate what you do
Fantasy LIV is a great addition.
Please make a Video on every Round of Anthony Kim!!!! AK!!😍
It seems to make sense about Rory joining the DPWT. Let see what happens.
Roy might go to DP but he will stick around with PGA for majors especially for the Green Jacket and the sandwiches.
I love liv a ton it's great golf. Very different
Word is Rory is being offered a share in LIV, that includes bringing across 2-3 other stars.
If Rory goes to LIV , he eill get a team and Will Z will follow him
To be honest, I think he should go to LIV. I had no interest in LIV in the past but this year, withJon Rahm and the other signings, for the not elevated events it’s way more interesting to watch LIV than the new “Korn Ferry” tour that PGA tour has become
pro golf is done for. it's a joke now.
I think your assessment is spot on, Matt. Everyone can see Rory is positioning himself for an exit. The PGA has taken advantage of it's players for decades but lost their leverage over the players the moment they went behind their backs to pursue a deal with PIF. The PGA hypocrites can preach legacy all they want, but at the end of the day, the almighty dollar is what reigns supreme, and they will follow the money wherever it goes! All the other talk means absolutely nothing!
You where wrong about Tony Finau, Xander Schauffele, and Patrick Cantlay... is this just for clicks?
Correction- the European tour is not a ‘world tour’. It is sponsored by ‘DP World’ (Dubai Ports). Hope Rory leaves PGAT and accepts a couple of LIV Wildcard spots this year
Rory will be the top dog anywhere he goes.
Rory needs to leave the PGA tour, especially after they went behind his back and made him look like an idiot. Guy stood up for them and against the pga and they pretty much spat on him.
I think Rory should go to LIV and take the money, the PGA used him as a whip to attack LIV and then made a deal behind his back
If true, I would like to know who or what got to Rory to wake him up.
The problem with the LIV tour is that it has too many top-tier players, and then everyone else. I personally enjoy watching it more but there’s so many washed up and mediocre golfers on there. I think if the majority of LIV was the elite, Rory would switch over regardless, his previous stances. But also, it has been fun watching all this fresh talent diverge in the PGA TOUR. Still not as fun as watching LIV
Will Rory leave for LIV if he wins the Masters? At 34 years old can he still win it? So many good young players coming up. Lot's of first time winners these days on the PGA. Will Charlie Woods got straight to LIV?
Watching LIV in Jeddah, I noticed very few spectators and kinda pathetic. Honestly, doesn't matter to me what Rory does. All I know is that Pro Golf is hard to watch because it is so fractured.
Agreed.
Excellent analysis. I think you are spot on about Rory and the DP Tour. LIV doesn't really need Rory and as a LIV fan I woudn't want to see him there.
I have noticed this season the PGA is very different. Its like the big tournaments, we miss these guys that are at LIV. Honestly Rory is kind of the last guy left, he's not played good enough to be the star that keeps PGA on top. For example, if this was Tiger in the place of Rory right now, where lot of good guys moved to LIV but Tiger was like the last hold out on PGA, it would still be huge because Tiger has such draw for viewers. Rory isn't that guy, even in his prime, and we could argue his golf isn't at his best right now to boot.
I prefer PGA tour for most format things, but I like some LIV stuff like the shorts, the music or atmosphere, shotgun start is alright I guess. I'd like to see PGA format with some modern tweaks like the shorts etc, just lighten up a bit. I think LIV really has put a dent into PGA, to the point there is some chance the PGA collapses.
70% of PGA Tour events are boring with the same winning scores of -15 and lower a regular occurrence. LIV brings in more dynamics with the team aspect which keeps people interested even if a player is miles off the lead
Are you interested in the team aspect as it is? I see so much potential but as it stands I think it's very weak.
Love the discussion here MSG. I love golf and have followed the PGA for a long time. All of the hate for LIV from the PGA has soured my outlook towards the main tour somewhat. I'm not completely sold on LIV but I'm coming around. Unfortunately there's always going to be haters no matter what happens at this point. I love the four Majors and feel that is the main draw for the tour. There are a few other tournaments I enjoy but that also depends on who's playing. People can say what they want but LIV bringing in more top talent will bring in fans. I'm still in the AK camp too, no he didn't play great, but it was good to see him playing again. If Rory does leave for the DP world tour others will follow. Now with all that being said, I can honestly say most of my golf is viewed right here on youtube. There are many channels that I watch weekly and the content keeps getting better and better! The MSG channel is one of them! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and creating great videos!
LIV is more fun and I really am getting into the team element too
Nonsense about DP World Tour, not enough cash for McIlroy. He'll move to LIV.
If you think he's leaving the PGA Tour, and you think that he's not going to play LIV, then what do you think that he's going to do ?
Is he going to go play The Korn Ferry Tour, or play the Asian Tour ?
Is he going to retire ?
I think that Rory is going to play LIV and a few DP World Tour events, and the Majors.
I think that it's a great plan.
How would Rory deal with the top 10 players on DPWT going to PGAT each year? Would DPWT have to formally separate from the PGAT?
Yep
As Azinger said, PGA is a feeder tour for LIV now
LIV is a far better product, more watchable, more exciting
If you honestly compare Mayakoba and Cognizant to LIV Doha you’ll see why
I think Rory is on his way to LIV, although I don't think it'll happen until next season. I'm sure he'll get his own team and I don't see LIV adding a new team in the middle of the season. Rory won't be able to turn down the money (and who can blame him) but will use the excuse that LIV is a more global league and that he wants to play with the best players in the world, and LIV is where they're at regardless of what the PGA fanbois want to believe.
Rory will ruin the vibe at LiV. He's like that "friend" of a friend that nobody wants at the party.
Lets be honest, Rory is only changing his attitude towards LiV so he can still pick up easy points on the DP tour after PiF buys it out. 😉😂
"Exciting is exciting"? Pro golf is getting harder and harder to enjoy in my opinion. I guess it's exciting for CZcams Golf because interest in the pro game with all this may be waning some. Watching someone get hit by a bus is not exciting IMO, it's just terrifying or sad. I feel the same way about all of this in golf.
Love everything LIV does and it would be a great fit for any elite golfer. LIV is the future.
SSG is now the PGA tour , they do not want a merge with LIV and water down their control. Rory wanted a merged world tour and is not happy . DP and LIV merge is now his focus.
The only problem with the idea of Rory trying to grow the DPWT is that the top 10 players every year have access to the PGAT. From a money perspective DPWT cannot compete with the PGAT so the players will leave.
As soon as Rory said he felt like a sacrificial lamb, that was his mind up and it was all about a convenient way of getting out of the PGAT. In my opinion he goes full time on the DPWT, as he won’t go back on the things he said about joining LIV, but then he has the power and leverage within the DPWT to develop the ‘champions league’ format he craves in conjunction with LIV. A win-win for everyone accept the PGAT as they lose the biggest name in golf currently other than Tiger, the DPWT gets a much needed cash injection from the PIF and more eyeballs with Rory featuring and LIV players start to build up their ranking points again by being able to play in recognised events without being penalised once the OWGR Board approve the new format.
Rory may start his own Major tournament with Liv or the DP World tour. This would be a
International Major.
I have long thought Tiger and Rory would start their own tour.
they did. its the simulator league TGL.
@@bryanbarker7319Yeah, but I think that's just a trial run for the real thing.
Very interesting…….
Rory’s whole point is to come to a common ground of a unified tour. Going to LIV after all that would be kind of pointless. I am just tired of all the fractured nonsense and Internet bickering. We need a true global tour that functions like one, not whatever LIV is because whatever their intentions were they didn’t hit that point. Fenway and the PIF can absolutely be on the same page.
I love to watch LIV, more fun and better players than the PGA
I LOVE LIV eventually all the big names will be on LIV and pga will feed LIV the teams aspect players hqve ownership rights its more than just golf
It’s awful. Just watch CZcams golf if you want something fun but lacking serious competition.
LiV is the future much better product than a nameless snorefest called the pga
Please stop with the AK.....most young fans today have no idea who he is.....LIV praying to get 👀 with the AK signing.
Very true , total has been
I like Liv golf but they need to make cheap tickets for people watch them and less Dubai courses and more America holes
Its like you would say Messi's or Cr7's legacy is tainted because they went play for money in their late 30s but its simply not the case and LIV is getting strong lets be honest here
I think they talk about having 1 tour in the bible, scary times.
i wouldn't be shocked if rory moved back to ireland. his daughter is getting close to school age and i wonder if he wants her to get an education in the UK/ireland just based on the overall quality of schools that they could offer. sure there's good schools in florida, but these days i wonder if he's just had enough of the issues/politics in florida and wants to give his kid the best chances to go to a decent school and also to be close to his family. that could be a catalyst for him playing more DP events and then just playing the majors in the US.
Life is short, and opportunities knock only once in your life. The key is knowing what that opportunity looks like. Rory needs to leave PGA and get recognized in LIV for his true value. Forget about what Tiger says. Tiger is jealous.
I think Rory has seen the writing on the wall... The LIV/PGAT integration is not going to happen.
My thought is, the PIF is now going nuclear on the PGAT - there is no way back since the SSP deal.
For the DPWT, it has one chance to get this right, in order to save their tour (now Pelley is gone). Integrate LIV into a full world tour.
The best of the PGAT/ USA College will still come to LIV - Due to the money alone.
If the major fields become that watered down due to bans / non-eligibility criteria, are they still Majors anymore? Or just Majors in name only?
One other thing - LIV DOES need a partner Tour - LIV will have turnover players that need a back-up tour to play. This is why the Asian and DPWT deals are critical.
First off, Tiger was fantastic. His day is all but over now. Not taking ANYTHING away from what he accomplished, but his main rivals were Phil, Vijay, Ernie, and maybe Retief. Rory, majors not withstanding, is the most consistent golfer on tour, that is now FULL of excellence. There are more than ten who have won Majors, and at least 6 have one multiple times ( or the Players). Rory is in a tough spot. He was the voice who defended the PGA and then felt betrayed by them…….. so……… not by his own doing………. He is a man without a country……… or tour in this case. It’s sad for the most consistently talented golfer on the planet.
I don't think that's tigers League it's a technical golf league has nothing to do with tiger woods as far as what I've been reading
I think liv’s just need to change a little the concept and not lose some traditions (tee times, 4 rounds of golf, apparel) the team aspects could be really could if you can make teams by golf brands (Taylormade, titleist, cobra, ping, Callaway, sub70, etc) . If LIV really choose to make it look more serious. I think people will start to watch them more soriously aswell
I think you're right. For me (and I know lots of people disagree) the shotgun start has to go. To me it ruins the telecast. Maybe at least lose it for the final round. So to your point, add a round 4 and make it a traditional tee off. I also agree that the Team element has to change. It just seems like a gimmicky add still.
I can see Rory moving to the world tour but I wouldn’t be surprised at him taking the money from LIV. That’s generational wealth we are talking about!!
Absolutely no chance. The idea of Rory in the Magical Kenya Open or the Scandinavian Mixed is beyond ridiculous.
Obviously, he is gonna leave the PGA tour in few months, he will not miss that amount of money offered by LIV. Look, he has not won in PGA tour this year, i.e., so he is not as dominant as he is being sold. He is worth less than Rahm for sure. Plus Rahm is much younger than him.
well he might be able to win on europeian tour no chanc on LIV or PGA
Tiger is starting a league of digital golf … imagine if LIV had done that, they’d be hammered by all PGA fans and told to stop embarrassing themselves. Tiger is a giant of the game, but that doesn’t mean all of his ideas are flawless. Isn’t the whole point of the DP world tour for them to be a PGA feeder?
I don't know Rory will do, but I think the Professional Golf we have been used to is on the verge of destruction. Just like NIL is ruining College Sports, these big payoffs to certain players will destroy the game. I see the PGA Tour failing within a year.
Rory is top dog. Tiger may still compete but will likely never play competitive golf again. I could see the DP thing maybe. Interesting angle. Definitely Rory feels betrayed by the PGA tour.
Rory, Hovland and T Fleetwood in a package deal ....always thought DP World and LIV was a better match...Rory seems bored...he had more fun in Dubai...
Rory woumd gave never left the PGA tour if the tour handled LIV negotiations properly with the players as opposed to behind clowed doors and hiding it from the players. Once that happened, rory decided to weel house in FL and mobe back to England, drop off rhe playerw committee snd start speaking more highly of LOV
I'd like Rory to go to LIV just to hear what he now has to say about LIV and his move there. 😂