7 Reasons For-Profit Colleges Are a SCAM
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2022
- Gang, don't go to for-profit colleges. It's not worth it. In this video, I will explain why.
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I'm an academic advisor, and having to tell someone who worked hard and paid a lot for their credits at a for profit school that their credits are not transferrable and basically meaningless is always heartbreaking.
Good morning. I attended GCU, completed my bachelors degree, and I had to pay 150.00 dollars for my degree. Another college I used to attend to, I never had to pay 150.00 upfront for my associates degree. The college I want to attend in my city can take my credits thank goodness for that. It’s really sad that these for-profit colleges aren’t transferable if a particular student wants to attend a college in their own state, and an advisor has to tell that student you can’t attend this college because you’re credits can’t transfer to this college, since you’re college wasn’t an accredited university. Very heartbreaking. I have a neighbor that attended University of Phoenix, and I asked her how are you doing in school? She told me that she stopped going there because they were charging her a lot of money for one class, and she’s in student debt smh 🤦♀️. These for-profit colleges don’t care about students and their success, they only care about the money. And I told my neighbor that’s why I’m looking into colleges in my area where I’m going to be well respected as a student and importantly that my degree will be well respected.
A wise person once told me to leave those for-profit colleges alone because:
You’re degree won’t be respected.
You’re credits won’t transfer to another college.
You will be in debt
misleading student
Veterans Education Success has received more than 50 complaints from GCU students, alleging GCU lied about its tuition price, job placement rates and career assistance, students' ability to transfer credits, and delay tactics used to keep students enrolled longer and paying more money
There are many legit instate undergrad programs that accept even 2.0 HS students, there is NO REASON to even consider a for profit institution.
Lower quality education for 4x more is totally crazy!
This is so true. I am an International student in the USA, and for some reasons I ended up in a For Profit school. I am at this point where I am filled with regret, anger and confusion. I would like to transfer to another school but I cannot until I pay up a debt for a semester that I did not even attend. I really hate going there... it almost destroyed me
Oh, wow! They got you real good. I'm so sorry to hear about this experience. Yes, stay away from for-profit colleges. You will get back on top though! Don't worry!
What school is it?
@@whosaidthat84 The name of the school is ASA College
@@toluwanimionYT i just looked them up and they sound awful. I'm sorry you had to go through this 😢
@@whosaidthat84 I was about to go there. The admissions staff were so rude I had to quit it.
Yep. I’m currently attending Walden; I feel like I’ve been grifted. Basically bc I have been. I’m planning on transferring to Arizona State, which for all it’s problems is at least a legitimate university. Don’t make the same mistake that I did; if you want to attend college online, do so through a reputable college, not through a scam.
Glad you are transferring! ❤️
Many community colleges have just as abysmal graduation rates. Individuals, primarily minorities, are funneled into community colleges and drop out, settled with debt though not as much as if they're going to a for-profit college which is more predatory. Not everybody's made for college, regardless of your background, people need to consider other options to earning a good living. Unfortunately, much of society pushes colleges on students.
I’m so thankful that SNHU is a Non for profit. ❤💙
I taught health science classes for two for-profit colleges. They were both horrible places to matriculate. I left the first to start a grad program, and I left the second because they were misleading students about the marketability of their degrees, and the transferability of their credits. For-profit schools suck. Steer clear.
Great insight!
The community college I attended would test you when you were admitted and yes they take anyone too. But they have remedial classes they put you in first if you don't qualify for college-level work. I had never even taken pre-algebra in school so I had to go back to basics- 3rd-grade math and it was a long road. But I can't imagine skipping that process.
Way to stick with it!
Great video! The more awareness of the situation, the better. The funny thing is that most of these programs offered at for-profit colleges are usually offered at a community college, especially those related to IT or the medical field. The difference is that FPC's will promise a degree in half the time. They're basically the MLM's of the education world.
Yep, couldn't have said it better.
Hello, I am currently attending Capella for my Phd. I ended up there because I wanted to go to other schools, but applications were often greater than $100 which isn't something I could afford at the time. Capella's application was free. Yep...
Generally, I would say you'll have to pay that money on the front end or back end. $100 on the front end might be worth saving money on the back end.
I hate to break the news but more and more employers aren't honoring degrees from for-profit colleges. Take it from someone who graduated from a for profit then went to work for many public colleges and universities. It's a scam. I wish I would have known prior and I just would have a traditional 4 year college to avoid the expenses and embarrassment.
@@AA-hj8er Thank you for letting me know this. I have heard similar things from multiple people. I am hoping that the accredidation that Capella hold means something, but if not then I guess it is what it is.
@@CollegeHacked That's valid, if you have $100 to pay at "the front end."
I went to capella and had mostly a good experience. I got accepted into grad school with my bachelor's from capella. Only things that suck are it's hard to get in contact with people, and the financial aid department sucks.
Yeah everything he says is true. Do research. These for-profit colleges don't have formal application websites such cal state apply, they basically advertise like Best Buy to get you to "shop" there.
I attended Devry University back in 2004 and later Keller Grad, the graduate counterpart in 2008. You need to have a plan if you go to these schools. Luckily for me, I was already working and was able to use those degrees to my advantage in order to career track. Also, I was able to get into another school years later to pursue another degree so most will accept your credits, as long as they are accepted majors/ transferrable credits. I'd recommend watching the documentary on front line called, sub-prime education, it's a good watch. Most of this is true, however I believe both Devry and UOP were regionally accredited, at least when I attended. Interestingly enough, I also worked for one of the for profits about 3 years ago in an HR leadership role.
I bet working there was super interesting!
The funny thing is, the ad before this video was an ad for a for profit college, Carrington
The irony!
The fact that for-profit colleges are legal tells you a lot about the government
Not much to be done when the same executives sit in office and on the boards of those schools 😜
Hit the nail on the head, I'm seeing more college ads since I started researching than before...
AI ads are pretty amazing!
I’m currently attending a for profit at Ashworth College but it’s affordable. I plan to transfer to UMPI or Southern New Hampshire. I choose them because they took all my credits.
I did something very similar with Ashworth. I transferred to Excelsior University a private non profit.
Another issue is that for those who do graduate for-profit colleges, they've very likely received an inferior education that did not prepare them for the real world, did not give them the skills that they need, etc. I've seen folks come out of these schools, several with PhDs, and they can barely read her right English language.
University of Phoenix also doesn't offer military discount for Veterans or their dependents! This isn't necessarily the most important part of education but I feel like those who fought for our Country should 100% be given a discount.
All the better. Hopefully it means veterans will be less likely to go there. By the way most vets get the GI Bill. So a discount on college won’t make much difference to them anyway.
@@CollegeHacked Yeah but as a military wife that isn't able to use their spouses GI bill or any part of post 9/11 it's helpful to be able to obtain credits at discounted rates. I personally just think it's not a good tactic on their part & it fit well with your video of why not attend ha ha.
Omg I wish I watched this before signing up for strayer! I just got scammed smh
Not everyone loses at a for-profit. But most do.
You can still find a job with the degree.
Hey, can you make a video of top 5 or 10 online universities in the world? I'm a south African working in China and want to complete my degree or any degree using the existing credits I have. Thank you in advance.
Awesome request! I will definitely consider it. Unfortunately, though, much of my focus is on American online colleges since I'm not an expert in global competency-based learning options, but I will spend some time looking into it. Great suggestion.
@@CollegeHacked Thank you
I am hoping you will be able to help guide me here. LOL neither my husband or my self have attended college and don't know where to start, our son just moved back home not knowing what he wanted to do we paid for him to become a Certified Medial Assistant. Now he wants to continue his education all the way to PA. He has worked as a manager in Fast food and now is working Full time as a Medical Assistant. He has maybe two college classes that have been taken in the past. We are looking at Online AS degrees but now concerned about the for profit. (which i think we just did for his Certificate). We live in Southern California and will be moving to Texas. Can you please help 🙂
I'd be happy to help! You can set up a consultation with me using the link in the description or you can just email me at clifford@collegehacked.com, and I'm happy to answer easy/opinion questions pro bono. Sounds like your sun has some great opportunities. I'd be careful about the online for-profits especially.
Look into local community colleges and what colleges he can transfer to. You can also set up a meeting with a counselor that'll help guide him on his path to education by recommending which classes he should take.
wait isnt this common sense 😭 it's literally in the name "For profit". like watcha expect from a school when their goal is to make money lol
Hey I’ve just came across your channel for profit schools and I’m thinking about going to u.s career institute and I’m wondering is that good school to attend or no because it says it’s legit, nationally accredited I don’t know if it’s for profit or not profit school but bad complaints about it can please help me out.
I would avoid. Nationally accredited means they don't hold high academic standards, which means they aren't to be trusted.
What is your opinion of (AMU) American military University? Would make a great video. Not a lot of info on them on CZcams.
It’s for profit
You have better options
Umgc, snhu, liberty, and others. Unless you’re trying to go in person
I'm in the military and going in person isn't an option. My degree of choice is electrical engineering, not a lot of choices....
Great question! They're part of the American Public University System, which has a graduate rate of about 11%. That's terrifyingly low. They are cheaper than the average. But I'd also recommend checking out ASU Online's electrical engineering program. From all I can tell, they are a highly polished program with great quality. There will be less you can "hack," but it is one of the highest quality online schools I've seen. asuonline.asu.edu/online-degree-programs/undergraduate/bachelor-science-engineering-electrical-engineering
Any thoughts on Berkeley NYC or Berkeley in NJ ?
Berkeley College is a for-profit college. Don’t do it. These for-profit colleges will try to get you in the door. Try attending a CUNY college.
What do you think of Saylor Academy (a non-profit way of earning credits).
I need to do more research, but I've heard great things!
@@CollegeHacked I look forward to hearing your opinion on it!
Would you like to share your thoughts on "International American University"!!! As it is for- profit.
Regards,
Foysal
Bangladesh
There are better schools :)
Or else that would ruin my chances to get into a prestigious university like Stanford or Caltech or Yale or Princeton
Hey, I would like a 45 minute session for a good online accredited short duration and cheaper college
Send me an email at clifford@collegehacked.com, and we'll see what we can do.
How is American Military University because I attend their towards getting a career job.
It's a for profit. As a rule of thumb, there are probably schools cheaper and more likely to get you to graduation.
An old co worker told me about Grand Canyon University back in 2020. So I applied to the university, and just assuming things without doing any research about the school. And I graduated from GCU in December. My major was Behavioral Health Science in Infancy Early Childhood Studies. So I want to attend Lehman college (CUNY) for my masters degree in Clinical Mental Health Counseling. I'm so afraid that the college won't take my credits. When I spoke to my SSC on Friday about the situation about if my credits would transfer to another college in my city. Therefore, my SSC counselor told me I should continue my education at GCU. I'm thinking to myself as my SSC counselor is telling me this is because so my student loans can be much higher and to be in more debt absolutely not. These for-profit colleges want to get students in the door for their money. Especially when students live in low income neighborhoods. GCU is an accredited institution however the program major itself it's a candidacy meaning it's not a full accredited major program. Now I’m 30k in student loan debt, and I don’t have that type of money especially if I’m only making 20 an hour. However, I’m going to make the best and try to pay off my student loans. But I have to hold accountability for my actions because I didn’t do my research about the school. Lesson learned. What are your thoughts on Grand Canyon University?
I'm sorry to hear about that. It's a really hard lesson to learn and not one people should have to worry about learning.
@@CollegeHacked I’m trying to hang in there. And now I have to start paying off my student loans, and give them what I can give them. And idk if I can attend another college in my city for a masters degree.
@@CollegeHacked Giving you an update that the school in my state will take my credits from the GCU I’ve graduated from. One of my neighbors went to University of Phoenix, she told me she stop going because she is in debt and want her to pay more money for a class. When I play games or watch videos on CZcams, I get those ads from University of Phoenix. You’re not going to get ads from CUNY, SUNY or non profit colleges because CUNY, SUNY, and non profit colleges are legit and accredited. I told my neighbor that University of Phoenix has tons of lawsuits and a bad reputation.
I went to GCU for my nursing program and it was a complete mess. I dropped out halfway through the program and now I owe them $25000. Our cohort was reduced by half after the second semester. Wouldn’t be surprised if my credits are not transferable to another university.
@@JS-wp4zi Wow omg
I Went to westwood college worst experience.
It's best not to go to schools such as University of Phoenix, Devry, etc. Those schools aren't scams in the sense that they're fake colleges. They're real colleges, legit colleges, and they're accredited colleges, but they have a bad reputation since they cost more than most colleges, and the education standards at those colleges are lower than most colleges.
At schools such as University of Phoenix, Devry, etc, engineering majors don't take courses that engineering majors have to take at most colleges. At schools such as University of Phoenix, Devry, etc, people take their tests online instead of taking their tests at a testing center where they're being monitored to make sure they're not cheating. At online colleges with good reputations, students typically take their exams at testing centers where they're being monitored to make sure they're not cheating.
There are a lot of financial employers that hire people with accounting, finance, and business administration degrees from University of Phoenix, but a lot of financial employers won't hire people with accounting, finance, and business administration degrees from University of Phoenix. Some schools hire teachers with teaching degrees from University of Phoenix, but some schools won't hire teachers with teaching degrees from University of Phoenix.
There are actually a number of reputable, accredited online colleges that don’t require proctored exams at all. But they are also verifying learning in other ways, such as projects and papers.
@@CollegeHacked Thanks for your comment, and thanks for letting me know.
I just quit teaching at the WORST school ever because of their practices. It was all bait and switch, even for the teachers. Obviously it was much much worse for the students, and I’m still working hard to find my students resources even though I’m no longer employed there.
We need more people like you. Thanks for being a light in a sometimes DARK industry. Now you can tell the students there’s a better way to do college! :)
Thoughts on Strayer University?
Not good. For profit. 20.3% graduation rate. More expensive than average. Not appealing at all.
Check out these schools: czcams.com/video/qOo14LpYcL8/video.html&ab_channel=CollegeHacked
Much better in all categories!
@@CollegeHacked Thoughts on West Coast University, Miami?
They are a SCAM! My cousin used to work there and she quit as soon as it started going down hill
@@okunwaamadasun5892 It's a little different for nursing school. As long as they're accredited and you're able to take the license test after you should be fine. HOWEVER, they will charge you a ridiculous amount more than a regular non-profit school. So if you can avoid it, just go to a public community college and then transfer to a more well known traditional 4 year college. I know a nurse that went to a for profit nursing school and ended up paying $20,000 more just for a two year associate's degree. It's ridiculous how much they charge.
My college has been nonprofit since it’s founding 25 years ago. We got a new President last year and he’s making the school for profit. I’m in my last year. Glad my degree will be useless now
Walden is regionally accredited.
I like his voice...
thanks!
I’m glad I never got into a for profit university
Phoenix says it's regional.
Yeah but the way they grade makes it to where the units don't transfer to regional colleges. That way when you find out you're stuck an University of Phoenix because you can't transfer the units.
@@rwdchannel2901 I just applied for u of Wisconsin green bay. They would take 50 of my 60 credits. But this was the same for a few others I applied for.
That's good! Most for-profits seem to not be, but UoP is accredited with the HLC.
I will say, I think they are one of the best for-profits. But there are still better options.
@@CollegeHacked If you can get in and out of there really fast and cheap then it's good if you've got the degree you need for some government requirement. A bachelors degree in anything is needed for many jobs such as becoming a financial advisor or applying to the FBI. The real racket isn't the universities, but the baseless requirements set up by Baby Boomers. Baby Boomers were walking into jobs and getting them with a high school diploma then to cut down on competition they lobbied the government to require a bachelors degree for the job. Delaware was the last state to require a bachelors degree to become an accountant and that was about a decade ago it changed. To be an accountant in the 1960's required a high school education.
This should be illegal!
Strayer is a scam?? I just started!?!
Chances are very good you can get higher quality for a cheaper price somewhere else.
I’m going to be in the minority here but the bias against for-profit schools is unjustified. Yes, their graduation rate is below 50 percent… same is true with many top tier universities such as UCLA. Yes they accept just about anyone, but so does the University of Wyoming or any other generic Big State University. Yes, they send students into crippling debt, but Rutgers doesn’t? Yes they spend more on advertising than on education, but is that any different from Texas A&M that spend more money and resources on college football? Yes they don’t give a crap about you education, but neither did my gender confused political science professor at my old community college.
I’ve sat in and audited IT courses at the University of Phoenix before and the subject matter was virtually identical to what every other state university or non-profit was teaching. The prejudice against at for-profit college is just that, prejudice. The hate against for-profit is not warranted IMO.
You make some good points. We might be moving into an era where we need to reevaluate for profits. In the meantime my main complaint is that they generally have much much worse outcomes. Closer to 10-20% graduation which is insane. And they usually cost more than comparable schools. As they figure things out they might become more and more viable. On a philosophical level I also think that making a profit isn’t really a good motive for providing a liberal arts education. But like I said times might be changing.
@@CollegeHacked for sure and I agree with you. To be clear, I’m not an advocate of these for-profit colleges. The grievances you raised are valid and colleges like WGU and Thomas Edison University provide a much better value at a fraction of the cost. I just think we need to be less judgmental of the word “for-profit” because ultimately, all colleges have to make a profit to stay in operation. As an accounting friend of mine once said, “a 501C3 non-profit is a designation in the tax code, not an operating philosophy.”
@@karlstrauss2330 Okay, I am in perfect agreement with that! There are some non-profits I could name that are not operating ethically.
I took a statistics class at college. They give you 2 hours to do 3 questions and it's not open book. If someone is able to do that same class at home on their computer while cheating then it's a joke. You can have proctored exams but that's not the case with every for profit college. Many people need good instructors to help them with hard math classes too.