NIGHTWISH | YOURS IS AN EMPTY HOPE | REACTION & ANALYSIS by Vocal Coach / Metal Vocalist
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- Lets hear Floor Scream! Turns out she an do more than I realize! This was an extremely fun reaction and analysis to Yours Is An Empty Hope by Nightwish. Lets go!
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Oh, and btw, Floors Windmills power half of Europe xD
and all of Corpsegrinder's power the whole portion of North America
Except for Texas.
LOL!
@@andrewkarp5067 , you are right about that, not sure if we have power, after last winter!
She is Dutch. Whoelse can do this?
Floor never gives you "what you expect"... she takes what you expect, tears it in tiny parts and gives you something way better xD
As far as Marko's nasally twang... he probably is adding something to get that sound but I would note that his Finnish accent also colors his english vocals at times. He's a brilliant counterpart to Floor and is in many ways the heart of the band, so his departure is a heavy blow.
At the same time, though, it was all mutual. It's not like he left because of anything to do with the band itself, and I can't imagine that the other members don't all understand, accept and respect his reasons for stepping back. The mutual nature of his departure, along with the hopeful tone at the end of his open letter ("I hope to tell you all about it in 2022. No promises, though") makes me think that we haven't seen the last of him, and that I wouldn't be surprised if he even returned to Nightwish. I know he enjoyed singing with Floor (he once said that with Floor, he didn't have to worry about overpowering her vocals with his own, unlike with Annette, and even Tarja to a degree), and it's impossible to see the smile on his face when the rest of the band comes in during the Tampere performance of The Islander and not think that he loves not only the act of performing, of being onstage, but also performing with the other members of Nightwish.
Some of Marko's sound might also be the result of the botched throat surgery he had back in the '90s, to remove a polyp. He said in his book, it damaged his nerves and partially paralyzed the vocal cords on the left side.
Next: Devil and the deep dark ocean live from Buenos Aires 👌
This one ☝️
I'd love to see a Tarja video
Yep.
This!
Yes!
I love how she goes from Demon queen to seductive siren in the span of like 15 seconds or something. One of my absolute favorite songs.
I was always taught that if you're forcing a body position to make a note or sound, you're probably not ready to make it. Floor really exemplifies that by being so relaxed through her jaw and neck and drawing deep from her chest using all her breath. She's so smart with her mouth shapes and breath support, I love to see more classical opera training translating to metal vocalists for sound and overall vocal health
There are quite a few reactions by vocal coaches to NW and Floor specifically, which is understandable given her talent, but your discussion is more interesting than most of them because of your metal background. I know loads about head voice vs chest voice, belting vs operatic, clean voice vs fry voice thanks to all of those reactions, but I'm glad to learn some new, metal specific stuff from you. Thanks!
My pleasure dude, glad you found it worthwhile!
@@KardavoxAcademy Dude, you didn't reply to my post below your previous Nightwish reaction 3 weeks ago. I gave you a link to Floor's performance where her growls are much better. Her use of death growls and operatic soprano in just one song is something I've never heard before. It was with her previous band Revamp.
I also assume you don't want to hear Epica as you did not reply to my last post :-(
@@cancelled_user Hey Kyle! We get a lot of comments and unfortunately we can't always read through / reply to all of them. Its nothing personal! We absolutely would like to do an epica video someday :)
@@KardavoxAcademy Yeah I know, sorry :)
So, Floor's previous band Revamp, here's the link: czcams.com/video/SNPesLFTnUg/video.html
Unfortunately, the recording quality is poor, si you need to decide if you wanna do it as a reaction video or just watch it off camera.
With Epica, many people would recomment Sancta Terra live, just because it features Floor Jansen as a guest for their live performance. But I personally would like to recommend these:
Storm the Sorrow: czcams.com/video/dNoTvg0t52c/video.html
Suitable for broad audience, very little growls. Many metalheads don't like it because it sounds more mainstream. But it's a beautiful song. The lead female singer is Simone Simone, the Dutch beautie :) She's also classically trained like Floor Jansen. And they are friends.
For something heavier and more complex, try Consign to Oblivion (live)
czcams.com/video/dkqyyUTCMUQ/video.html
More suggestions later, maybe :)
@@cancelled_user Storm the Sorrow is a good option for Epica song because Simone said in an interview that that's the Epica video she's most proud of.
Beautiful. 10/10. I’m glad Female Vocals are surging in popularity with Jinjer, Spiritbox and Nightwish since it gives such a unique touch to metal.
Tbh Nightwish was always popular alongside Epica and many others, but the attention is great now people seem to respect females more overall, so it seems. Shout out to the algorithm for blessing us
There are so many great female metal vocalists. One of my favorite right now is Courtney LaPlante from SpiritBox.
I prefer her older stuff tbh Nightwish is still holding her back, maybe in a few year Tuomas writes the right music for her.
"I expected" is always entertaining to hear when it comes to Floor
One thing I have noticed about a lot of people screaming/growling is that they often like hunch over, cupping the mic and stuff. But Floor has such perfect posture and look so relaxed
That’s the wonderful thing about her, she can do anything the song calls for and everything she does is always in service of the song as a whole, it’s never about her just showing off, everything she does is to just make the song better and I think that’s where her true greatness lies along with her unmatched versatility
Marco is an extremely talented vocalist I'd love to see a reaction to while your lips are still red live a Wembley its such a delicate song that they did for a Finnish movie. It shows not just Marco's vocals but how well he and Floor sung together.
Nightwish - Romanticide also from Wacken 2013
ENOUGH SAID JUST DO IT :P
Some observations from your reaction (a first visit for me):
1 - you are darn well a Metal singer; I have seen numerous aces of other styles go skipping around the room once they figure who is doing the growl in this song. While you just went, OK that is well done. :))
2 - this song was composed by Tuomas, the band leader, especially for Floor sice she joined permanently, to be presented on their first album together. So he probably was very conscious on how he set the vocal lines - like including the "misleading" rough bridge from Marco, who then switches to clean tenor for the chorus. Leaving the unsuspecting audience to figure out whence come the growls. To mind, never before Tuomas had a singer who could deliver these lines... he was patient; he got her; and he adjusted, as times before.
3 - like how you try to portray the vocal techniques used in the song; now I'm curious, did you also try to mimick the end part of "Ghost Love Score"?!? :))))
You managed to listen and analyze whole song with only one earphone in left ear. Exceptional professionalism. Its always great to see, when people are over performing their god giving natural levels of execution. You have better experience after using earphones in both ears, its not hard. Trust me.
Cannot wait to see this. I remember seeing this for the first time and could not believe floor knew how to do this. Not really super crazy in comparison to others, but she shows that she has every tool in the toolbox for sure. Simply in awe of her vocals
This is nothing... Have you seen her in her own band Revamp? czcams.com/video/SNPesLFTnUg/video.html
She definitely knows her voice super well, knows how to utilize it in all different ways. She's so talented
She's a vocal coach so I think it's obvious she'd know how to do this. It was just a matter of time.
Dude, it has nothing to do with being a vocal coach. Most vocal coaches don’t learn how to do this, they learn straight singing.
Some hidden trick in a Temple on a Mountain.....Best ever!
Also, if you want to hear all Marko song, try The Islander from Tampere.
More of her 'screaming': "Revamp - Wild Card (Live at Bloodstock Festival 2014)" -> czcams.com/video/GpZMFALYeGc/video.html
This is a good one, and Disdain from Revamp as wel.
I'd go for Disdain for a first listen :)
Disdain for sure. Much better in my opinion. czcams.com/video/tIqzPXzhEuw/video.html
I like wildcard more cuz scream was in the climax. It makes people more surprised
@@uncagedulfhedinn2525 Live at Graspop 2010.
Love your reaction bro. She is a selfproclamed vocal nerd. Try Romanticide, it has a nice surprise for you to listen. Another side of her, try Floor Jansen in "beste Zangers ", the Vilja Lied.
Side note, her name is derived from the Roman Goddess of Spring Flora.... Floor.
Peace out and be safe.
I can enjoy growling (screaming?) when it's combined with a clearer voice. Here they complement each other perfectly. I also enjoy stuff like "Amorphis - the Bee". When we go nothing but screaming it goes beyond my understanding.
I love how clean, crisp and (for lack of a better word) academic your speaking voice is, and then come the growls... Greetings from land of Nightwish!
Wow, just by your explanation I'm able to do some amateur grunts without it hurting my throat. Thanks a lot, you're an amazing teacher.
Happy to help!
Still plenty of great songs to review including ones where you really get to hear Marcos rasp and amazing voice especially paired with floor. Devil and the deep dark ocean being one, Romanticide, Ghost River and then the last two of the holy trinity of Nightwish songs Poet and the Pendulum and Greatest Show on Earth.
if you wanna hear what Marko is capable of: High Hopes, Devil and the deep dark ocean, the islander fe. =)
High Hopes for sure! He really shines there
@@josefinejohnsson5787 /\/ \/\/'s High Hopes hits me higher and deeper at the same time, every time again!
First time I've heard it called a scream, thought it was a growl. Nighwish is NOW very good at creating tension since Floor.
Either or, but I think it's more specific high pitched scream and low pitch growl. For example you would say black metal screams, and not growls because they don't really do the low gutturals in black metal.
Yes yes and yes!!!!!!
Devil and the deep dark ocean 🤘👌
The enemies of Asgard fled from her on the battlefield when they heard that otherworldly growl...! 😱😱
Floor did some screaming in her band ReVamp. On their second album Wild Card. (I can't remember if there is any from her on their first album)
Her abilities are just insane
Floor does the best windmills. For real. I'd have fell over after a couple seconds.
Awesome! I'm loving watching Nightwish on this channel. She used to growl more in her previous band, Revamp. I'd love to hear your thoughts on Revamp - Disdain live in Graspop! :)
Video hardly started and earned a like: for all the people susceptible to epileptic seizures thank you! I may not be one of those, but I so so appreciate it for them! Now on to the actual video :)
Do the nightwish cover of pink Floyd's high hopes for more Marco is my favorite performance of his
Floor growling is maybe my favorite thing ever
Nice to see a metal voice reaction.
Came here because I see NightWish, I watch!
Great reaction.
If you want an even heavier and more growling Floor check out her former band Revamp with the song Disdain live at graspop.
You will love it and so will we:)
That's the song I found when I discovered she was going to take over Nightwish's vocals and I LOST MY MIND (in the best way possible). Absolutely underrated performance by her.
Well I just learned more about how to use false chords than any other vocal coach reaction has taught me. That was nice! Thanks.
Brilliant. TY. It explains why a drill instructor can cut through all background noise.
ReVamp - Disdain (live at Graspop) is an awesome older song with Floor (also featuring her growls)
We are all built to sing. Every human is born with the capability. It's just a matter of putting it to use! 🤘🤘🤘
Revamp - Wild Card If you really want to hear floor do what you were expecting
Don't know if you checked since the video (or if someone answered), but the muscle name you were looking for is the Levator veli palatini. Never thought I'd use this knowledge in this kind of context haha! Also, very happy to learn how the growls are made with the vestibular folds! Thank you kind sir.
I think the warning at the start is required in all Nightwish live songs.
I'm so happy you covered this song. This is the perfect channel to break down Floor's vocals in this amazing number! Thank you for the insight! more nightwish please hahaha
I am firmly in the can't sing won't sing camp but I absolutely love these videos.
Great video! You are one of the best vocal coaches I've seen explain the screaming/growls!
Glad to hear it dude, thanks!
Another gem from everyone’s favorite coach. Would you ever do an analysis of your own vocals? You do a lot of interesting things in glioblastoma
Thanks for the kind words dude! I've had a few requests for stuff like this now and let's just say who knows what the future may hold? ;)
this is much more interesting than most of the reactions channels i've seen
'You're not supposed to sing breathy' has no one seen Billie Eilish?
Oh here for Nightwish, this is great, thank you!
One of my top five favorite Nightwish songs! Love it. Great reaction.
Have you ever heard Wintersun? This new drummer, Kai Hahto, was previously their drummer. He's got a jazz and grindcore background and is a monster. Wintersun is melodic death metal, and their lead singer, guitarist, and songwriter Jari Mäenpää is an extremely versatile singer, and in their song "Sons of Winter and Stars" you get to hear him doing growls, fry screams, and some nice gritty belts, as well as seeing Kai going nuts on the drums.
Marko and Floor's duets are legendary. He takes the high road, Floor does, he growls, she growls, which ever way they want to go. haha.
The crowd definitely needed as safe word on this one when Floor started the chorus...
THANK YOU for your insight and appreciation for this!
Hallo, great reaction..when you ,as a Voice Teacher Interessent, look to Floors MasterClass. 🤗(find it on her YT channel)..greetings from northern germany.
Great analyse, more Nightwish 🙏
I like and sub 🤘🏽🇳🇱
Great analysis. I learned something. I like your style of presentation too, friendly and lucid and calm.
Didn't even know this song...THANK YOU for an amazing video (so useful) and for showing me Nightwish!! 🤘 Can't wait for more
Love Nightwish. Need more.
I just commented on Ghost Love Score that "you'll love Yours Is An Empty Hope". Should have known you already covered it. I hope to see more of these videos, love them. I subbed!
Awesome reaction... so much info!!
As a school teacher who wants to take singing lessons, about the only skill I have from this is controlling volume. Kids are frequently shocked when they realise they can hear their teacher whispering to them across the class room. (even through a face mask in 2020/21)
Unfortunately I was one of probably many male singers who got embarrassed with their voice changes with puberty after singing a lot as a youth. I have only in the last few years regained an interest in wanting to develop my singing voice again.
I managed one music lesson with a guy who had more pop sensibilities before they had to stop. I was shifting country too so didn't look for an alternative. March I move home and I might look again.
Awesome to hear some more metal inspired vocal reactions. While some of the folds talk I won't probably understand till I have more lessons, it's still much more interesting to listen to than most reactions on youtube.
Glad youtube finally recommended your videos.
Hi from the UK 🇬🇧 something you might like to check out the band is called Ayreon and I think you will enjoy analysing this
Ayreon the day that the world breaks down ( it features 11 different singer's it will make sense when you watch it
Also you might like Ayreon age of shadows ( floor and Marco from Nightwish, hanci from blind guardian) floors sister irean is in the backing singer's
lol i just commented on your "ghost love score" video saying you should react to this, not realizing i was almost a month late to the party and you already did 😂
At least you made it here now!
You remember when floor belted out the last note in ghost love score? Well if you want to hear Marco and Floor belt out! Listen to Romanticide.
Haha, I knew this was going to be here after the last one..
She has a vocal master class on her personal CZcams where she also shows how to growl effectively.
Omg that 'happy birthday' reminded me of Marilyn Monroe singing to JFK lol. I really enjoy hearing you giving examples of using different techniques. It is so interesting. I wish I was in the US to get lessons. Love your reactions.
Thanks for the kind words, Suzanne! So, I actually give all of my lessons remotely, and I have students from all over the world, so if you are serious about wanting lessons drop me an email at kardavox1010@gmail.com and let's make it happen! :)
Man, I'd really like to see your analysis of some japanese bands, such as Deviloof or Dir en Grey! Their singers are sick
And Maximum The Hormone! That would be so cool
lol...love your reactions! Always very instructive , as well as fun to watch and listen to you. My eternal Godess FLOOR, is my inspiration to maybe....perhaps....learn to go from classical to contemporary singing. Very difficult though....teaching an old dog/biatch.....lol..., to sit. (speaking of myself.... )
Fun Fact: This is the first song Tuomas wrote specifically for Floor to emphasize Her ability.
Oh, and those strobe warnings were probably meant for the other version (filmed on a cruise ship (small space + strobes = not fun)) floating out there (pun intended).
TomH🇫🇮
Very very happy you did this one! Awesome song!
Your channel is my go to for vocal lessons and entertainment.
Keep it up man your very informative and its easy to see your passion for the musical craft
Love your analysis, just subscribed and glad I did, good job bro!
Love your reactions!
Thank you!
Great explainations!
I love Nightwish! Come to Brasil!
I highly recommend Ghost River (Wacken 2013) Their voices are complementing one another perfectly in that one.
Thanks for the insights! 🙋🏼♀️
I was there front row, so good. Great breakdown.
Was hoping you’d do this one next 🤘. When I Esther ghost love score I was like dudes gotta see this one!
Absolutely fantastic reaction absolutely loved it even subscribed. Floor is my favorite vocalist and Nightwish my favorite band.💜 If you want to see more Growling from Floor watch her previous band ReVamp's Distain and Wildcard Live those are two epic songs. Please also react to Nightwish Slaying The Dreamer and Devil And The Deep Dark Ocean. 🤘😁🤘🙏🙏
We missed Signs of the Swarms last song. How about today's!!! "The Collection" plus two guest vocalists Nick Arthur & Matt Honeycutt
If your looking for a Floor Fry Scream Revamp Disdain is probably a better example. I wish the sound engineer for this show would have kicked her mic up a notch when she was growling. She sounds good but is not as loud as when she was singing.
this!!
Watched a couple times...reeaaly fine react. Great perspective, insight and analysis!
2 things -
1 Yes, NW is great.
2 Regarding vocals? My favorite takeaway is one word: Intentional.
Almost nothing these guys do in terms of musicianship or vocals is random. Very much about specific intention at core. Yet at the same time, counterintuitively, preserving sooo much space for fun and play. They are just so playful, and That translates so well on multiple levels.
Thanks again.
Cheers!
rl
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Great video, my favourite channel reacting to my favourite band!
awesome channel bro!
I love the suspense in reaction videos to YIAEH. When will the reactionist realize it's Floor who is doing the growling
I'd like to hear how Hansi Kürsch can still sound great despite singing for 30 years for Blind Guardian.
Floor and Marco nailing it in a grittier song. Great reaction. Loved the analysis. This band kills live performances. I can't wait to see their show at the Warfield in San Francisco on May 18th. Here's the Nightwish 2022 North America Tour schedule. Better get your tickets now!
MAY 4, 2022
Toronto, Ontario, CA
MAY 6, 2022
Montreal, QC, CA
MAY 7, 2022
Lowell, MA, US
MAY 8, 2022
New York, NY, US
MAY 10, 2022
Silver Spring, MD, US
MAY 12, 2022
Chicago, Illinois, US
MAY 13, 2022
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
MAY 15, 2022
Denver, CO, US
MAY 18, 2022
San Francisco, CA, US
MAY 20, 2022
Los Angeles, CA, US
MAY 21, 2022
Los Angeles, CA, US
Love your reactions my dude. if you are open to suggestions, I would recommend Disdain by ReVamp, Floor's prior band... that music is insane. Keep the awesome job dude!
When I've tried to play with false chord growling, it actually feels a lot like falsetto, in that it takes a lot of air to make a moderate amount of sound. The result being that it dries your throat very quickly if you don't hydrate well.
As mentioned in another comment also, it would be nice to hear your analysis of Amorphis songs. Maybe "Bee" as it has an interesting message/background addition to a killer synth/guitar riff, combined with one of the best growling and clean vocals.
If you really want to see Floor growls, try ReVamp Disdain live 😉
Thanks for the heads up on the epilepsy! ❤️
Always!
The way Marco sings - and this should make anybody respect the HELL out of him - has a lot to do with the fact that he had some surgery that went bad and had damaged his... I think it's his larynx? For example, I read he just can't produce falsetto. So when you hear him hit those high notes, just appreciate that he's working around damaged vocal apparatus. He's a brilliant singer and deserves absolutely all the credit in the world.
And his departure from the band had left a whole in my heart. I wish him all the best
That's cool, I was sad to hear he'd left too!
I'm here for this type of content. Excited to see your analysis
If you want more Floor growls listen to her old band ReVamp Disdain live at Graspop