@k0nn0r its all in the takeoff role, it depends on how far they have gone already and the payload. they most likely anticipate that and go only like 1/2 or 3/4 of its max payload.
@k0nn0r Fair enough, of course there is one thing we havent considered here. The pilots are holding out on purpose to please the Maho crowd. I know how that sounds but it really wouldnt surprise me honestly
@k0nn0r Ok, havent taken off yet but once the pilot/copilot call V1 you must take off. You can cancel the take off if theres a failure BEFORE V1. If theres an engine failure after V1 you got to take off. During take off rolling you have your right hand to the throtles, once copilots says V1 you put that righ hand to the yoke then VR (Rotate)
@houshidar588 I think he mean't the fact that his rotation was so late if he was at V1 and the engine quit right after that, they might have not had the thrust to not run into the fence...
@k0nn0r its still capable of taking off with 3 engines, i mean these 747's are so light in st maarten sometimes they dont even take off with all engines on full power maybe around 80%
kOnnOr you are right ........... but the engines do not know that they have to manage a take of in St. Maarten :-))))) So it happens very seldom that just at V1 or better to say after V1 one engine stops!
@B787YV I know.. the whole point is, IF an engine fails, you have less thrust, less speed and less lift, so there has to be a margin. If there's a margin, why cant we see it? This looks as close to comfort as I'd want it to get as a pilot or regulator..
@ual744 Less thrust means less speed and longer takeoff run. Of course the plane would still take off, the question is where. I have this eery feeling that the fence would be involved in this story
@KimmurielBaenre Yea but that's the thing, it is not at MTOW, it does not have an engine failure and the clearance at the end of the runway is what, 40 feet, 50 feet? Im sure the calculations are alright since the airport is certified to handle 747s and the 747 is certified to take off from that runway, Im just saying, if there's a margin, as there's supposed to be one, why cant we see it?
I suspect the pilot delayed rotation because there were so many people watching the take off. He used every inch of the runway which is odd...in SuredT video he takes off in the identical aircraft with 500 meteres of runway left...the only explanation would be an overweight aircraft. Am i wroung?
@k0nn0r well quite simple at V1 the pilot has to go on and takeoff and return to the field just before v1 well yoube surprised by how fast a 747 can brake and come to a hold just before the end of the runway
@thehypersquirrel I know that they anticipate that, the question is, why doesnt it show? Why does the plane have 40ft clearance at the end of the runway with 4 working engines? How does this not turn into a disaster with one engine out?
I wonder if having a crowd at the end of the runway gives the pilots extra pressure to get it right. Sometimes a plane doesn't make it and they slide off into the ocean on these short runways. Nobody gets hurt--except for the crowd at the end of the runway.
The runway is a good length, these guys were just heavy, maybe had cross or taii wind, possible the density altitude was high that day. This is simple, the PIlots would have calculated from the RTOW looking at the press. temp, wind velocity of the day. They would have received the v1 vr v2 realized within legal limits and performed the take off. Note V1 can much much slower than Vr. . A pilot can calculate the moment of rotation very accurately. ASDA is probably good with the water.
Why is a runway 27 takoff so special? Is it the prevailing wind? The beach at the end of runway? It would seem that this takeoff would be better that trying to fly over those mountains. Anyone care to speculate?
@k0nn0r Flight crews practice regularly for exactly that kind of situation and I believe the 747-400 has the spare power to handle it. Dont get me wrong, Im certain my pants would need changing when it was all over, but I also doubt that big bird is anywhere near MTOW leaving SXM :)
@thehypersquirrel The only place one engine is going to get you to is the crash site. How can a 747 go on 2 engines during take off when on 4 engines, it's already cutting it close?
I'm not a expert on aviation, but, doesn't seem that the runaway is too short for that kind of plane? I mean, if the pilot needs to abort the takeoff....
Hey this was shot the same time that other guy was right infront of the plane, this is the very same takeoff! :D
Yeah! I just watched that video yesterday!
I watch that video to and I thought it was a KLM Boeing 747 but i just realised that it was a consair Boeing 747
WOOOOHOOOOOWOHOOHOOOOOO
That's friggin' awesome, I want to visit here just to film video of these crazy take offs and landings!!!
Amazing video! They used a LOT of the runway, no?
The runway is not so long at this airport.
Very nice, rarely captured 747-400 rwy 28 takeoff!!
I said it before and I will say it again:: If anything happens after V1 we go and sleep with the shrimpees.
That's on every airport in the world, after V1 they have no other option to go up :p
Go across the water to St. Barts and film one landing there... a must see.
this airport is like the craziest and cooliest in the world
Perfect timing awesome take off......
Jeeeeez....they literally have to pull the nose up right at the start of the displaced threshold.....crazy!
O MY GOD
I WANT TO FEEL THAT FEELING LOL!!!!!!!!
@k0nn0r its all in the takeoff role, it depends on how far they have gone already and the payload. they most likely anticipate that and go only like 1/2 or 3/4 of its max payload.
@k0nn0r Fair enough, of course there is one thing we havent considered here. The pilots are holding out on purpose to please the Maho crowd. I know how that sounds but it really wouldnt surprise me honestly
My favorite takeoff ever! Nice.
@k0nn0r 747s can easily go on 1 or 2 engines, it all depends on the elements and the type of engines they use. and of course a little luck :P
@k0nn0r Ok, havent taken off yet but once the pilot/copilot call V1 you must take off. You can cancel the take off if theres a failure BEFORE V1. If theres an engine failure after V1 you got to take off. During take off rolling you have your right hand to the throtles, once copilots says V1 you put that righ hand to the yoke then VR (Rotate)
@houshidar588 I think he mean't the fact that his rotation was so late if he was at V1 and the engine quit right after that, they might have not had the thrust to not run into the fence...
@k0nn0r its still capable of taking off with 3 engines, i mean these 747's are so light in st maarten sometimes they dont even take off with all engines on full power maybe around 80%
kOnnOr
you are right ........... but the engines do not know that they have to manage
a take of in St. Maarten :-)))))
So it happens very seldom that just at V1 or better to say after V1 one engine stops!
@B787YV I know.. the whole point is, IF an engine fails, you have less thrust, less speed and less lift, so there has to be a margin. If there's a margin, why cant we see it? This looks as close to comfort as I'd want it to get as a pilot or regulator..
@buoemi There is nothing "standard" about a 747 taking off from St. Maarten!
@AirlinePilotZJ ..Good old Wikipedia explains WHY it says Corsairfly AND has the TUI Logo on the tailfin...
so beautiful
b e a utiful
@ual744 Less thrust means less speed and longer takeoff run. Of course the plane would still take off, the question is where. I have this eery feeling that the fence would be involved in this story
Woooow the queeen of the skies is a powerful aircraft
nice video
My god! For a moment I thought it was going to run out of runway! Whoa!
@KimmurielBaenre Yea but that's the thing, it is not at MTOW, it does not have an engine failure and the clearance at the end of the runway is what, 40 feet, 50 feet? Im sure the calculations are alright since the airport is certified to handle 747s and the 747 is certified to take off from that runway, Im just saying, if there's a margin, as there's supposed to be one, why cant we see it?
I LOVE 747
About, what - 250 feet (at most) left when the last piece of rubber left the runway! Wow!!!!
I suspect the pilot delayed rotation because there were so many people watching the take off. He used every inch of the runway which is odd...in SuredT video he takes off in the identical aircraft with 500 meteres of runway left...the only explanation would be an overweight aircraft. Am i wroung?
@Flysimulations Full flaps would slow the plane down too much and decrease lift, probably about 30%
@k0nn0r well quite simple at V1 the pilot has to go on and takeoff and return to the field just before v1 well yoube surprised by how fast a 747 can brake and come to a hold just before the end of the runway
I think there was a 250ft extension to the runway done a few years ago. Without that, this plane wouldnt have taken off!
I DIDNT KNOW THAT TUI CORSAIR HAD A FRIGGIN 747?!!!!
Of course it does all plane companies as 747s
@thehypersquirrel I know that they anticipate that, the question is, why doesnt it show? Why does the plane have 40ft clearance at the end of the runway with 4 working engines? How does this not turn into a disaster with one engine out?
Holy shit! Never seen an takeoff @ rwy 27
I wonder if having a crowd at the end of the runway gives the pilots extra pressure to get it right. Sometimes a plane doesn't make it and they slide off into the ocean on these short runways. Nobody gets hurt--except for the crowd at the end of the runway.
@k0nn0r Same as above, there are 3 remaining engines
Came from the other persons pov
Wow, that was excellent, great video.
It hadn't even reached positive rate of climb when it roared over the beach.
The runway is a good length, these guys were just heavy, maybe had cross or taii wind, possible the density altitude was high that day. This is simple, the PIlots would have calculated from the RTOW looking at the press. temp, wind velocity of the day. They would have received the v1 vr v2 realized within legal limits and performed the take off. Note V1 can much much slower than Vr. . A pilot can calculate the moment of rotation very accurately. ASDA is probably good with the water.
Das ist unglaublich! :D Irgendwann mochte ich dort fliegeeeen! :D
Why is a runway 27 takoff so special? Is it the prevailing wind? The beach at the end of runway? It would seem that this takeoff would be better that trying to fly over those mountains. Anyone care to speculate?
Absolutely incredible
@k0nn0r Flight crews practice regularly for exactly that kind of situation and I believe the 747-400 has the spare power to handle it. Dont get me wrong, Im certain my pants would need changing when it was all over, but I also doubt that big bird is anywhere near MTOW leaving SXM :)
SOME ONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT IN THE WORLD IS SPECTACULAR ABOUT A STANDARD TAKE OFF!
It’s spectacular because it’s facing a beach and usually the takeoff on st martens are facing the mountains not the beach
@mike86183 You are kidding right? Those are lens flares. It's an optical effect from the lens pointing towards the sun.
WoW This vid was posted 12days before my birthday and and 10 days before Hutson
@thehypersquirrel The only place one engine is going to get you to is the crash site. How can a 747 go on 2 engines during take off when on 4 engines, it's already cutting it close?
Yeah of course !! wonderful ! now it's runway 28 since october 23, 2008 !
@k0nn0r if an engine failure would occour at V1 the pilots would continue with the takeoff...
Man youtube really degraded this video
Not a lot of clearance.. I really wonder what that would look like with an engine out at v1
WOW.
There's Gunna be some crap airline it's Gunna be a 737200 and there Gunna forget to extend the flaps
Corsairfly isn’t a crap airline
It’s part of Thomson TUI
@salsajuan317 lol that freeaks you out?
Are you Sure it's 27 and 09 ! :D i Hope Sounds better than 28 and 09
the fuel must be veryy full
Where is this airport ???
moerin4 has a same video like this from that same day....
Haha, this is the same plane that is in the other video.
aaaah :-O
haha i know i'm allowed to fly there. there is a little issue called money though :)
Airplane's Registration？
lucky bastards in caribbean while im stuck in england
Wow, dat dit nog mag!
WOW WOW WOW!
this looks like the same take off as moerin4's one
@k0nn0r
I cant imagine the look of it but it will certainly sound like : SPLAshhhhhh !
LoL
@mike86183 holy shit ur right
Jesussssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@B787YV V1 is the decision speed, you havent taken off yet, you havent even rotated yet
Jesus, barely any runway.
@k0nn0r at V1it takes off anyway, you mean before V1
very heavy hu?
yes I'm sure it's runway 10/28 since 2 years :)
I'm not a expert on aviation, but, doesn't seem that the runaway is too short for that kind of plane? I mean, if the pilot needs to abort the takeoff....
I thought that too.
No, it's not. The route KLM served at the time was only an 1hour flight, plane was lightly loaded. Now if the 747 was fully loaded, crash
@@reasonablerage4370thats a corsairfly 744 goofy head
St. Maarten
this is mi island
@k0nn0r It'd look about the same believe it or not.
I guess no RTO here....
@thijsvideo
stop the video at 0:23 and you'll see pretty clearly that it's not KLM.....
@AirlinePilotZJ You Obviously cant read because it says Corsair
It is a KLM =D
TNCM :)
what do you mean?
would you prefer to live in england? lets swap haha. i guess the grass is always greener
it is CORSAIR and not KLM
@k0nn0r it would mean to takeoff anyway..
corsairfly
Absolute waste, no plane bigger than 757 should be flying there if the runway is that short.
@k0nn0r Something like this:
FO: V1...
(2 secs later)
FO: We lost engine #1, #4... the APU and the toilets!
Cap: Ok.... Rotate....
RTO anyone? :D
LOL
@thijsvideo its tufly.com
Liverpool fc
i have read "sister" (easier)
:P:P:P:P:P
I just don't think that would be exciting to be the pilot
Well you don’t know what it’s like being a pilot is really wnjoyable
Wat makes u think that