Denisovans and their DNA

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
  • 13 years on and what have archaeologists been able to dig up (or not) about these illusive hominins THE RESULTS MIGHT SURPRISE YOU?!
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Komentáře • 49

  • @dreamerliteraryproductions9423
    @dreamerliteraryproductions9423 Před 11 měsíci +14

    Well done! This is a very nice summary of what we currently know (or surmise) about the Denisovans. I write paleofiction and included Denisovan characters in my books, using what little has been gleaned about them to help bring the characters to life. When writing about ancient history, there's always the fear that future discoveries will render your work inaccurate (despite all attempts to create a realistic tale), but there's not much to be done about that. :-) Thank you for this interesting presentation!

    • @Archaeology101Lectures
      @Archaeology101Lectures  Před 11 měsíci +5

      Thank you for your kind words, it is really difficult keeping up with the updates, good luck with the writing :)

    • @FridrichHlava-bv4kn
      @FridrichHlava-bv4kn Před 6 měsíci +2

      You did a good job with this- one has to have an imagination...

    • @arkaig1
      @arkaig1 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I caught a sinus infection from book mold, while reading an old copy of William Golding's "The Inheritors", last year. All that was due to an excursion from catching a side-along reference to his books in D. Reich's "Who We Are...". I still haven't finished either book, but that's a 'me' thing, not 'them'. I think I read Golding before, fully once even, and I feel I've watched Reich's talks advance over time, in video form online, already. The only thing which comes to mind to me, re your post, is contra-applying the old writers addage about "leaving some things unsaid for the sequel" might also be brought to bear mentally here too, as how to position a similarly couching likewise, for future scientific advances. Just saying... been years since I wrote anything, and that would at best kindly be described as juvenilia. Fortunately, I was young then. Not so much so, now. :) Best of luck!

    • @dreamerliteraryproductions9423
      @dreamerliteraryproductions9423 Před 3 měsíci

      @@arkaig1 Thanks for taking the time to respond to my comment. My 8-book series was completed last year, but while it was in production, "leaving something unsaid" for the next volume was definitely part of the process. :-)

    • @arkaig1
      @arkaig1 Před 2 měsíci

      @@dreamerliteraryproductions9423 I'll look out for it, and future works too. Best of luck!

  • @charlesjmouse
    @charlesjmouse Před 5 měsíci +3

    Thank you for an excellent talk.
    A question if anyone is in a position to answer. I understand something like 30-40% of the Neanderthal genome survives among modern humans. Do we have an idea how much of the Denisovan genome is present today? Possibly we don't have sufficient material to make an estimation?
    Another question: Assuming we manage to nail down (a) holotype(s), what are the guesses as to what 'Denisovans' may be called?*
    *Yes, it's my assumption holotype(s) are already named in museums waiting on discovery as 'Denisovan'. So I presume the scientific name(s) will end up being something other than 'H. Denisova'.
    *Yes, I suspect the 'Denisovans' will turn out to be at the very least two or more distinct sub-species.

  • @emancoy
    @emancoy Před 11 měsíci +11

    Still we do not know what they look like, until such time whole skull is found

    • @badfairy9554
      @badfairy9554 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Is Dragon man Denisovan?

    • @johng4093
      @johng4093 Před 6 měsíci +4

      ​@@badfairy9554Don't know since Chinese won't allow testing.

    • @badfairy9554
      @badfairy9554 Před 6 měsíci

      we need DR Selina Brace to work that.@@johng4093

    • @arkaig1
      @arkaig1 Před 3 měsíci

      @@badfairy9554 As of my watching, they have not decided that question yet. I do not know if it remains unsampled, or a sample was attempted and failed. I have not heard of any sampling that has succeeded yet. If you hear more, I welcome hearing that too.

    • @badfairy9554
      @badfairy9554 Před 3 měsíci

      @@arkaig1 the Chinese think they are from Homo Erectus.

  • @_robustus_
    @_robustus_ Před 4 měsíci +5

    3.8% Denisovan admixture here. Whoop whoop!

  • @deceptivepanther
    @deceptivepanther Před 11 měsíci +7

    Great video.☘

  • @gayeinggs5179
    @gayeinggs5179 Před 6 měsíci +4

    My cousin who is white and we had our DNA. Done mine was 100 percent t European his had denosovians dna he found out that he had a great grandmother. Who was a widow and went astray with her farm manager who was a Malay and that’s how he had denosovians DNA

  • @rustyreturns9754
    @rustyreturns9754 Před 6 měsíci +5

    It amazes me that so much can be gleaned from so little…

  • @loquat44-40
    @loquat44-40 Před 6 měsíci +2

    One thing that is lacking is some DNA sequence and protein data also from Homo erectus. Especially data for H. erectus from Asia.

  • @warrenallsopp
    @warrenallsopp Před 6 měsíci +3

    It's very apt that Archaeology 101 has a picture of Marjorie Taylor Greene up next to the skull. They may be on to something.

    • @IntroducingMrLucci
      @IntroducingMrLucci Před 6 měsíci

      Yep for real and just like Denisovans her recessive kinds gone extinct

  • @michasosnowski5918
    @michasosnowski5918 Před 6 dny

    I was looking for some presentation on Denisovans also with a sceptical view on the science. I found some other video but it was just hype with AI generated pictures which made it unnatural. Your video is perfect. Thanks.

  • @comfortablynumb9342
    @comfortablynumb9342 Před 3 měsíci

    I have a theory that the stories of giant skeletons being dug up, giants living with the Native Americans, giants fighting or eating Native Americans, and even Goliath were Denisovans. Also I wouldn't be completely shocked if a Bigfoot was found alive and found to be Denisovan. Might all be the same creature.

  • @ursalaminor8457
    @ursalaminor8457 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Can you even vaguely imaging “wild humans” out fucking ?! No bars, no diamond rings…!

  • @peterwhite7428
    @peterwhite7428 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Very interesting video.

  • @janedoe4858
    @janedoe4858 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Well done 👍 thank you

  • @ursalaminor8457
    @ursalaminor8457 Před 6 měsíci

    “Daddy said I just can’t have you Ogommd you just aren’t the same species as us…
    What do you mean it doesn’t matter?” The advent of a hybrid race… it really fascinates.

  • @vikingskuld
    @vikingskuld Před 6 měsíci +3

    Thank you for the video I'm in no way trying to give you a hard time when I point a few things out your video was very well done.
    Here is the problem I have with academia DEextinction really well If we are supposed to be EVOLVING then why would we not already have a better functioning gene?
    Using chimps to Try to what map out dna? We already know that using Micro RNA maps of humans and chimps had no correlation. If you look at them why in any way use chimp controls or did I misunderstand that? If not we already know there are far to many differences in humans and chimps to have had a common ancestor any where in the past. There isn't enough time. On top of that micro rna maps didn't match up at all. It makes it sound to me like they are desperately trying to say we are related to chimps. It seems to me they are trying way to hard to push an agenda and not just see what the evidence says.
    You did a great job pointing out some of the flaws in this study. Like the contamination and dating issues. It's something that seldom gets pointed out. DNA is the only real evidence I would trust and even then there are tons of problems with that. Their dating methods are not really reliable. Even some of the ideas they have had of fossil formation have not been right for a long time now. Soft tissue in fossils that are supposed to be hundreds of millions of years old? Right, I'm sorry but there is no way they can be more then a few thousand years old when they find collagen and Actin protiens in them. I don't know but it feels more like proper interpretation of evidence and only the evidence is kind of pushed aside to get the evidence to fit a picture they made up but don't have any proof foe.
    Thank you again for the video you did a spectacular job on it and I really wanted to say thanks. It's honestly one of the better paced and put together videos I have seen on the subject.

  • @tashidolma6668
    @tashidolma6668 Před 6 měsíci +2

    People of Tibet is descended of Denisovan

  • @AndyOpreshyn
    @AndyOpreshyn Před 6 měsíci +1

    That Denny resembles Gina Davis!

  • @bonniedavis9076
    @bonniedavis9076 Před 5 měsíci

    Never any teeth because their teeth show they were not humans

  • @goombah226
    @goombah226 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Them Denisovans were badass!

  • @KA4UPW
    @KA4UPW Před 27 dny

    Thats a lot of info from a finger bone!

  • @dreadcold4149
    @dreadcold4149 Před 11 měsíci +3

    How can it be possible to find a nearly complete 150k YRish old skull and find DNA? When at other sites that are half as old no DNA. I'm calling B.S. on this crazy rhetoric.
    P.s. my sceptical opinion is not based on ur video archaeology 101 lectures all ur videos are all very well put together and I enjoy them all very much. I just can't believe.
    P.p.s. every few seconds or so there was an audio glitch

    • @kathybrem880
      @kathybrem880 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Well you’d be wrong so……

    • @dreadcold4149
      @dreadcold4149 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@kathybrem880 I'd b wrong how? Don't believe everything u see and hear.

  • @prestonforayter2584
    @prestonforayter2584 Před 4 měsíci

    They went into heat. That's why they were on the ugly side.

  • @courag1
    @courag1 Před 6 měsíci +1

    What hasn’t been said since they gave us the hard to believe comparison of chimps to male human, that chimps are 99% similar to men despite that they (chimps), have 24 chromosomes vs. the human 23, - the number of chromosomes, I have not heard of for either Denisovans or Neanderthals. If they are more like us, they must have 23 chromosomes or how could interbreeding have led to fertility of the offspring? Modern humans come in a variety of sizes, and Russian wrestlers have very prominent brow ridges as do people of Eastern Europe. My husband is 1/2 Hungarian and has a prominent brow ridge also. We have 3 sons and they all have has children!
    My biology teacher in high school got teased that he was a Neanderthal! Humans can be so cruel! He had a Masters degree, and a prominent brow ridge!
    Human identical twins are 3% different in DNA, so whoever gave the 99% chimp similarity/male human. - are not walking that statistic back, though others have estimated no more than a 85% similarity. Human women are 86% similar to men. How marvelous that we are more similar than a banana to men!
    Sometimes, though it is interesting and entertaining, that they can get DNA at all from those in the homo category is baffling. Exciting time to be researching all of this!
    Does anyone know the chromosome count for Neanderthal and for Denisovans?
    Perhaps with 86% similarity to men, on US Birth Certificates, mothers have taken a downgrade to “Birthing Persons”!
    Can female chimps be implanted with a fertilized human egg? So they are birthing persons too?
    If a Petri dish could support all that a baby human needs, the birthing person could be a Petri dish!

    • @JustMe-dc6ks
      @JustMe-dc6ks Před 6 měsíci

      One of our chromosomes arose as a fusion of what are still two different chromosomes in chimpanzees. That’s why the number of chromosomes is different. Yes, Neanderthals and Denosivans must also have had the same twenty-three pairs of chromosomes in order to make fertile hybrids with humans. They would have diverged long after that chromosomal rearrangement.

    • @JustMe-dc6ks
      @JustMe-dc6ks Před 6 měsíci

      A petri dish isn’t a person. A chimp wouldn’t be a _person\ either, but at the least it’s a living thing whose well being has some moral value. I doubt any of the nonhuman apes would be suited to carrying a human embryo to term. Which in any case would be an unethical experiment even if you only focus on the risk to the human offspring. And don’t whine about changing terminology.

  • @IntroducingMrLucci
    @IntroducingMrLucci Před 6 měsíci +1

    Pretty sure that 6 percent of Denisovan lineage is where Asians phenotype comes from.

  • @theancientwinebeerexperime2273
    @theancientwinebeerexperime2273 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Funny how you left out the Machined jadite bracelet? I guess you really aren't interested in Archeology then? Kerp drawing the grant funds if it makes you feel important.

    • @richardmarshall159
      @richardmarshall159 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Self righteousness has little value in gaining a valid insight

    • @theancientwinebeerexperime2273
      @theancientwinebeerexperime2273 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@richardmarshall159 my very point about scientists who only look at evidence that fits their narrative, so no argument from me on your response.