Season Finale: Many Complicated Rust Repairs
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2023
- This 86 Porsche 911 Carrera 3.2 is a friend's doughty companion through summer. He invests regularly and she's getting better ever since he has owned her. This winter we've addressed a couple annoying rust spots under the front fenders that are very common with G-models.
In this final episode of the series I tackle more rust holes in the car's body, I also replace a side wall panel using a one-sided spot welding machine and do some blend paint jobs. Eventually, the wings are reinstalled and the car is finalized to go back on the road.
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The whole relaxed way in which you do QUALITY work.. without overbearing idiotic music... whilst also not trying to speak non-stop the whole time, and at the same time explaining what you do, makes this channel a clear WINNER.
Thanks, mate.
Glad you’re here.
You are right on with your comment. This guy is super soothing. He makes me want to go out in my garage and get to work!
The absolute gold standard of Porsche restoration and video presentation. Throughly enjoyable 😊👌
Thanks a ton, mate.
@@GreasyFingers i tried to find the rust converter in gel form, but the product is not available on the website. I reached out to them weeks ago and got no reply.. Do you know if they will start carrying it on their website or is this a product they will no longer sell?
Continues to be my absolute favourite channel on CZcams. A German with a great sense of humour, great taste in music and and loves 911's - wonderful!
Thank you for fabulous content.
Not to forget the Alfas....
Thanks, guys.
I guess I should have a tattoo with that comment.
I love the spot welder - very clever. I'm looking forward very much to seeing your sympathetic restoration of Luigi.
Can’t wait to get Luigi started.
"Iron lady and Phosphor boy" That's giving rust a personification that makes it even more nasty. Bravo!😜 Thanks for another great vid!
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Thanks, Brad.
My 6 year old daughter was worried you had run out of Brunox (I'm not joking), maybe that is was why we had not seen a new film in a while?! Maybe Brunox is no longer your preferred epoxy primer, but regardless, thank you for producing such quality content we can all enjoy.
I guess I’ve used it a bit too often with the camera on, I’m everything but a fan of it. Just managing its faults.
My regards to your daughter! 😊
This level of craftsmanship is to be hired, protected and pass from one generation to another.
Thanks you, Patrick, that’s very kind.
I see that sometimes even a big belly isn't enough to get Porsche wings back in the correct alignment. Best wishes.
😂😂😂😂
Was wondering after changing the plate how the fit will be between the wing and the door... I should not have that concern knowing your passion for precision. The trick to push it back was speechless... Just the touch of a magician of trades. As I mentioned before it takes a lot to achieve such great accomplishment.
Johannes shows it in perfect synchro with such delightful piano tunes and no fuss. I needed a break and a demonstration of metal prep, additional welding technics and meticulous paint did it!
Great inspiration
Thank you, Vincent.
I hope I won’t fall out of shape when I touch your Spider.
These videos are the best on YT, great topic, narration done with humility and humour, they always make my day.
Thank you, Rhett.
It’s cool, you enjoyed it again.
This is the most relaxing repair video I've ever seen
Thanks!
Making relaxing films is very high up on my list.
Thoroughly enjoyable to watch and learn from. Artisanal-grade content.
Thanks, my friend.
Wish I could've stopped by and had a beer while discussing the rust converter function!
tschüss
It’s a very interesting topic!
And rust converters are interesting too. 😁
An absolute delight to watch, as usual. If I lived in Deutschland, I’d not only happily pay you to fix my Fiats, I’d pay extra if you let me help you to do so. Zehr gut, mein herr. Danke.
Thanks, Alastair.
I’ve made an experience recently. The 14-year-old son of a friend of mine asked me for an internship. When he helped me doing stuff, I suddenly realised: it doesn’t work anymore, when I live explain what I do. 🤔
Faultless and impeccably executed….thank you once again for treating us to this engineering treat!
Very welcome, David.
this is my favorite channel on CZcams.
Glad you like it, mate.
Please recommend it to your friends.
Sir, your crusade against the oxidation is truely remarkable. Hats off, I'm learning a lot from you.
Yes, it’s GreasyFingers against oxygen! 😆
Can't wait for video 70 ! the craftmanship...like everything is easy and ends well in life...brilliant ! Hope you have proud customers...my car's wearing your 'greasy fingers' sticker with pride !
Nice comfy space you have there... some gadgets came... nice... one side spotter probably makes weaker welds... but it depends on the power... if it is not structural probably fine.
We can see the love you make to those cars... and i mean the love you make it shows in how you touch the car
Thanks, Adam.
In fact the one-sided spot welds aren’t as reliable as the normal ones.
The Swiss watch industry has its gifted gnomes and these Red and Blue G-types have you...lucky cars! Now there are no more excuses for mediocre workmanship! Thank you for setting a new benchmark here! Vivat Bavaria!
Thanks, Andreas. Love what you say. 😄
Another fine episode sir.
Absolutely fantastic. And worth the wait 👍👍
Thanks, mate & sorry for the late reply.
Awfully busy …
Bravo. Sie arbeiten so präzise wie mein Zahnarzt. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻😊
Danke, Herr Ersfeld, sehr nett!
Ich glaube, ich sehe auch so viele Löcher wie ein Zahnarzt.
Relaxing to watch . Fantastic job .
Thanks, Steven. Glad you liked it.
Another great, informative and entertaining video!
Thank you, Paresh.
Captivating video, chat and music, thanks!
Thank you, Peter.
Wait, a one sided spot welder, what alchemy is this? Amazing stuff and a joy to watch.
Thanks, Tom!
It’s easier than you think, it just heats up the part with the lowest resistance.
If there’s a second connection with lower resistance, it’d weld there, no matter where the electrode is placed. Weird thing, but it works.
Eine wirklich großartige Arbeit!
Danke sehr!
Superb, thoroughly enjoyable. The care that you take with videography of your projects is greatly appreciated. The only thing missing are a few drone clips from within the shop, gratuitously added to also display those video skills! 😂
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Thanks, Bob.
Actually the shot when I put the wing on was made with the drone.
relaxing video as always!
Yes, no reason to hurry. 😊
Your videos are always so relaxing to watch. Great work as always!
Yeah, that’s one of my top-priorities.
Poetry in Motion!
Thank you, David. How’s your Carrera doing?
@@GreasyFingers I’ve no longer got the Carrera, I’ve a 964 C2 now. Bit different driving experience.
Easy going music and an easy going car-surgeon on the screen. It is such a joy to follow Your work.
Thank you, Ole. Pleasure to read this.
Amazing work paying attention to all de details and risks of have the rust coming again, love it.
Thank you, Alfonso.
Best thing to start the saturday morning, and get some motivation for my own projects! Thanks
Thanks, Jules. What are yours?
Ottimo lavoro come al solito
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Another cracker. Thanks. Plus the jazz isn’t too bad😅
Thanks, Connor.
Yes, I’m too very happy with the Jazz this time.
The next film will contain quite a bit of hammering and beating, so I might look for some Rock’n’Roll this time.
I always try to brake hard when Johannes posts another video-the best source out there for in depth repair. Around the 12:00 mark you are laying down a flexible tube-I assume so you dont get a hard paint edge. Is that a piece of rolled over masking tape???? Takes me a long time to go through one of these as I'm taking notes-on the supplies he uses-the best of the best
Using a punch at 18:25 to better establish a closer electro fitting before spot welding-brilliant.
Fabbing up a way to tension panels into being on the same plane before tightening the flange bolts at 22:00-genius
Thanks a lot, Steve. Much appreciated again.
The flexible tube tape is exactly what you say. The supplier is 3M.
Tolle Arbeit, so sollte eine Reparatur durchgeführt werden. Geduldsmonster! Meine Grüße aus Berlin!!
Danke sehr!
Ja, diese Reparatur war eine ausgesprochene Geduldsprobe.
This video is pure gold!
Thanks Christopher!
Can it be that you’ve really noticed the song by the three seconds I played it?
Or did your subconscious do?
@@GreasyFingers the music, content, and commentary all adds to the overall experience.
Please keep doing it just like this!
I absolutely love your choice of music for this video.
Thanks, mate.
The band‘s name is Track Tribe, they’re on CZcams.
Thoroughly enjoyable and very soothing video, plus your usual care and attention to detail. If I had a classic car in need of bodywork repairs, I'd gladly ship it to Germany to have you do it: I doubt there are many bodyshops that work to such a high standard!
That is so good to read, Matteo.
My maniac attitude towards quality sometimes is robbing my customers’ nerves, but you see: I know better than them. 😆
jazz - + restorations + german cars = right up my alley!
You gotta love ze German cars. 😜
Overall, such an enjoyable video, including the sound track. Especially the blanket color.
Yeah, it’s a dream isn’t it?
Now that's a proper job :-) The rust converter looks good, sand the one I use and you just get back to the rust, so a bit pointless!
Yes, it’s all about how deeply the acid penetrates the rest.
First class job.
Thanks, mate!
Waiting for the next video !!
Hey mate. A little more patience please. I’m at it ..
Good to see the quality of the DANISH MADE inner replacement panel is good enough for you and the preußisch blau Carrera! Schöne Musik dazu - Gruß aus DK
Yeah, without the Danish parts half the fleet of 911’s would be grounded.
Attention to detail 🥰
Lots of it!!
@@GreasyFingers well done
I finally had time to sit down and watch another great video showing your talent and I wish I could get some of the products you use here in Canada. Just a little tip, when I weld on a chassis I always cover the glass because the window melts and makes little pot holes all over the window from the sparks flying everywhere, then when it rains the wipers no longer clean the glass.. Maybe the paint too. Ask me why I recommend this??? I learnt the hard way.. Stay well my friend.. JL.
Thanks for commenting, Jay.
Just posted on Insta what an honour it is to get great feedback from you.
Thanks for the tip, in fact I’m far too careless about these things, I’m sometimes so focussed on what I’m doing that I forget all other stuff around me.
Great series! I lived in England for a number of years and had to deal with rust repair tasks many times. I now live in the US Southwest and hope to never see rust again :) BTW -- I lived in Germany (Oldenburg) for a short time, too. I miss Germany!
Thanks for commenting, mate.
If you miss Oldenburg, how would you have loved Bavaria? 😆
Tech meets art 🙂
Thanks, Sean. 😊
As you secured the AC pipes, well I think that’s what they were, I was reminded of the stern instruction in the manual” not to forgetting to counter hold “. It’s a phrase that keeps reappearing in the Porsche manuals.
Oil Cooler pipes
Yeah, Porsche manuals are sometimes unintentionally amusing.
In the 991 for instance, every time you open the satnav, it forces you to read a warning to not loose attention for the traffic when using it.
You know, people read it carefully all the time. 😆
Passion plus! Nce to see and learn about the introduction of new chemicals and equipment. Would appreciate to have your comments after some time using it.
Yeah, that’s a good point.
You’re bringing me to an idea. Maybe I should do a “three years after” about Walter?
Awesome video!
When can we expect more content!!
Thanks, Ash.
I got footage for another 911 film, will start editing during the weekend. Front suspension this time.
Immensely satisfying. Sometimes I find myself preferring the 993 above all 911's (and who wouldn't want proper rear suspension?) but there's no denying the timelessness of these slightly earlier late (!) air-cooleds. I agree about the colour as well - nigh-on perfect for the car.
It’s curious how the simplicity of the earlier engineering is part of the charm.
I have a 1984 928, but my go to is the ‘72 spitfire, not for its elegant engineering but it’s simple pleasure.
You gotta love them all, really.
How’s life with a 928, John?
@@GreasyFingers depressing. I am not using it till next year when it’s tax status changes to historic. There has been a water leak and the rear trim cardboard mouldings have warped and the leather is mouldy. I can do some thing about this, but it takes time and enthusiasm.
@@johnsherborne3245 I have exactly the same problem with mine and made some progress. Film in the making ...
Learning sooo much! It is a pleasure to watch. BTW: Those magnets you use when welding - where can I find them?
Thanks, mate.
They’re just basic Amazon-ware.
I'm a big fan of Rustbuster EM121 Epoxy Mastic for under car panels.
After 10 years there are no signs of failure on the old Käfer.
Thanks for commenting!
Yes, I guess whenever you can manage to bring phosphoric acid onto it for a sufficiently long time, it’s going to work.
Neet job!
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Oh! when is episode 2? I started my 944 restoration back at the beginning of lockdown 2020 and although the 944 is not as complex as the 928, so much of this is similar so far. I had 'fun' with my instrument cluster too!
Thanks for commenting.
I guess it will take me 3-4 weeks to produce the next film.
Respect.
Danke sehr!
Love the work that you do as well as the music. Who is playing? Love to find the music.
Thanks, Ulf.
In 90% of the cases, I take music for my films from CZcams’s free creators’ library, in this case from the band Track Tribe. They have an own channel on CZcams, you’ll find them right away.
How do you deal with so many friend's projects vs your own alfa sitting in the corner... crying? No honestly, how do deal with having to wait for things with so many gems around?
Oh I asked before hearing your words on it in the vid itself, thanks!
It’s my goal to cover rent and insurance with customer projects, so sometimes I have to do some acquisition work.
It appears I’m a little too good in that.
@@GreasyFingers 😅
You have a one sided lift that rolls around?! Crazy nice! Nice repairs, too. Was that an oil cooler in the fender well? I can't wait for you to start the Alfa! Ausgezeignet.
I do!
Yes, late 911‘s have an oil cooler in the fender.
Thanks!
Love your channel and thanks for your practical tips. I'm doing up an '86 911 like your Walter. At 24:47 in this video you show the oil thermostat and it looks like a new one you installed. Do you have a recommendation in terms of these oil cooler parts or is this Porsche genuine parts for oil cooler/thermostat? Thank you again!
Thanks, Gordon and sorry for a late reply.
You can easily get that part at all the usual dealers. I’m not quite sure it’s original Porsche, but I never had problems with it. Should be around 300-400.
very well done - the car and the video. Also great to see that i am not the only one welding through perfectly new replacement panels. Is there a downside to the spot-welder or should i get one myself as well? :)
Thanks, Kristian.
Yes, there is a downside. In the one-sided mode, it just heats up the spot with the lowest resistance. Could be anywhere, not necessarily where the electrode is. I guess the main purpose is to connect small pieces to big ones like latches, brackets, etc.
The machine as such as cool. It can also be equipped with a normal welding (pliers) gun and that of course is a much more reliable application.
@@GreasyFingers cool thanks. Bit of an off topic: What your your thoughts on TIG welding (WIG)? I am thinking about doing the outer shell using TIG. Got the idea from this video: czcams.com/video/dvnyIvKeDDk/video.html
Yes, YES! Phosphoric acid! 🎉😅 my favorite friend! What is the product? Rostfix?
Most “rust converter” are garbage because all they do is seal the rust away from air and water. But that never lasts…
I usually use pure phosphoric acid, but that’s annoying on vertical panels as it runs off and needs to be applied multiple times…
I love the idea of that gel!!
Quick question: isn’t grinding down the paint for the spotwelds risky? I would have said it would create a weak spot where bare metal is going to rust kinda soon?
Thanks, mate.
The name is Rostfix Gel.
You’re definitely right about the bare metal‘s potential rust issues. Unlike with pliers based spot welding the one-sided tool requires blank surfaces. I’ve made sure it’s properly sealed with epoxy primer from both sides, so I guess I’m good.
Another beautiful video! How do you rate the driving experience of the Alfa Giulia compared to a 911 of this vintage?
They are about as incomparable as two cars can be, but one thing they have in common: they are immense fun to drive and own.
Wieder mal sehr schöne Arbeit! Arbeiten du ausschließlich an Fahrzeugen von Freunden oder nimmst du auch Aufträge an?
Viel Spaß auf der ersten Fahrt wieder :)
Hallo Jacob, ich bin am Übergang zwischen meinem Ingenieur-Job, den ich gerade aufgebe und dem Beginn meiner Oldtimer-Werkstatt, die ich dann hauptberuflich mache.
@@GreasyFingers Dankeschön für die Antwort. Klingt sehr spannend und nicht ganz einfach. An Aufträgen wird es denke ich nicht mangeln :)
Viel Erfolg!
Hi Greasy,
How happy wer you with the fit of the JP side panel?
Not sure if you Showeinlagen it already but can post or send pictures of How you lift the 911 with your Twinbusch 1 Pole lift?
I have the same and I always picknit up at the floor welding edges.....maybe you have a better idea....
Hi there.
The fit wasn’t too good to be honest, but on the other hand it also doesn’t make much sense to hope that body parts just fall in place. At cars of this period they generally need to be hand-fitted.
The lift: move it as far to the non-column side as possible, about 5 cm before it’d hit the sill cover. Then adjust the non-column-sided braces, then the column-sided. Contact me on instagram if that doesn’t help …
@@GreasyFingers allrigty thanks
I am a novice welder and I work on equipment that does not need to look pretty. Recently I welded together two pieces of stainless with a mig welder and regular steel flux core wire. Surprisingly it worked! The parts are strong and in service. This brings my question, could you weld stainless patches with stainless mig wire into vehicle bodies, creating a rust proof patch panel ?
You’re raising a very interesting question here. In fact there’s one Porsche partly made of stainless steel. It was produced by a kitchen sink company as a marketing exercise and it’s part of the automotive exhibition of Deutsches Museum in Munich. I’ve spent some time researching this car and I think they must have spot welded stainless steel panels to normal ones.
I’m not a welding expert myself, but I guess an entire seam of a stainless panel mated with a standard steel one would lead to a loss of strength and elasticity.
@@GreasyFingers A test is worth 1000 opinions. Welding one stainless component onto a steel construction and testing durability would be interesting. Maybe a mountain bike with one frame tube replaced with stainless. A very brave test driver and a bumpy dirt road could settle the question!
Stainlesssteel bodies has always con's. Every not stainless bolt wich would be screwed in the body would tend to rust due to contact-corrosion. If one makes a stainlesssteel car, everything should be stainless...remember deloreans? Body stainless- Chassis rusted away..same with the stainless bolt debate in classic cars😂
Wow
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Do you recommend removing the front fenders simply for an exception if there isn't any indication of rust? The car I'm referring to is an 86 coupe,
You’d never do that. 😊
Is that an aftermarket oil cooler or standard? I guess that is an '84? My SC has just a trombone oil-cooler, a pipe, no unit... I quite like that unit, seems efficient. BTW Thanks for all your information. I need to get a welder.
It’s the standard oil cooler that came with the 3.2.
@@GreasyFingers One of the many reasons the 3.2 is superior.
@@johnnydeutschemark3620 No, I don’t think so, it just needs more cooling because it has increased output and therefore also increased losses.
SC‘s don’t need it so they don’t have it.
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@@GreasyFingers 👍👌👏🤗
Is there a way of preventing the rust I’ve just had extensive respray …..
Hi Micheál. There’s no such thing as one rust. It’s a complex thing to get control over.
If there’s one thing I can recommend: get the wheels off from time to time and remove dirt in the wheel houses. See what’s behind and fight the rust as early as possible.
hallo gibt es die videos auch auf deutsch?? super arbeite 👋👍
Im Moment nur in Form von Untertiteln, die ich selbst übersetze.
Ich denke aber drüber nach, Deutsche Versionen zu machen.
Nothing wrong with rust converter.
Yorkshire Car Restoration and Carter Auto Restyling put it best, you could cut out every bit of pitted metal on a rusty car.
But at that point you're just moving the welds so far up and away from the original area that you're not leaving much for the next guy 20-30 years down the line.
In other words, it'll do more harm long term, it's more time consuming and not cost effective, nor is it keeping the car as original as possible.
Yes, I’m too coming to this conclusion.
Can someone tell me approximately the cost to change a clutch and RMS on a 1989 930 3.2 911?
Thanks 🙏🏼
That would be about 1.5k
@@GreasyFingers thank you for taking the time to answer my question, I really appreciate it! 🫡
Why use masking tape to create a template for the new metal? Can’t You use the piece you’ve just cutaway? What am I missing? Thanks
The tape is a projection into 2D.
That’s what you’re missing.
Your friend from Wagner…
What you want is POR15. You're decades behind the times when it comes to rust treatments. You also are clueless about weld-through primers. That square patch you did is precisely where the rust cancer is coming back, because you completely failed to use weld-through primer on the back of it.
Here’s homework for you: watch the film again and this time pay attention.
Increase your medication and go away.
Glock22357 Be a bit kinder in your comments, no need for such aggression.
Be a bit more clever with your comments. No need for such incompetence,
@@GreasyFingers Sorry, I missed the primer, I was getting ready for work. You probably don't know what that is.
To work in the shoe shop?
perfect!
Thx, Allen.
Nice avatar there.