Restoring The Tail Lights (Porsche 911, 87)
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- čas přidán 8. 04. 2021
- This film is about the restoration of the tail lights of my Porsche 911 Carrera 3.2 from 1987.
The entire tail light unit which back then was entirely made of aluminium and steel was disassembled down to the single screw. All parts have been restored or renewed, the housing was repaired with liquid metal, the covers were hard soldered.
The production of this film was supported by JP Group Classics from Denmark.
It was also supported by matoopa.com, my trusted shop for classic car - related tools.
#porsche911 #classicporsche #restoration
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Shared that in my Insta story. Thanks, man!
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Nothing dull about an enthusiast maintaining a Porsche! Keep up the good work!
Fishing for compliments ... mission accomplished. It took friendly Scandinavian to do it. 😊
Hallo J.G., ich habe alle Videos von Dir verfolgt. Sie sind einfach toll zu betrachten mit welcher Gelassenheit du Blechstücke herstellst, Sie passen bis aufs Milimeter. Arbeit eines Genies. Besonders hat mir gefallen, diese Restauration des 911 Rücklichtes und die Reparatur des Alfas Türdrückers. Diese Arbeiten kann man nur ausführen,wenn der Wille und die Geschicklichkeit da ist , um solche Teile zu reparieren. Grandios! Ich denke man kann viel lernen von Dir, und bist ein super Restaurator. Mach weiter so, und hoffentlich noch viele Videos. Die Qualität ist super. Gruß, A.C
Vielen herzlichen Dank fürs Feedback, sowas macht meinen Tag zu einem guten Tag.
I never thought something like this could be so entertaining :D
For guys like us ...
Wow! In total awe of your work. And so chilled with it too…
Thanks, Philip.
That’s very cool feedback. 😊
Another very detailed and quality video. Thank you!
Very welcome.
Amazing work and enjoy your delivery style. I am doing this to my 83SC now. Huge help! Looks like I need to get the dremel out. Broke one of the back cover screws off. Thank you so much! Cheers.
Great job! I like how the new technology and products comes in place.
Thanks, Piotr!
Maestro at work .. another excellent production . Loved the ‘thingys ‘ and washer welding .
Thank you, Manjit.
Lovely work, sir! Watched every second of it.
Thanks! That CZcams algorithm will have tears of joy.
Großartige Arbeit und wieder etwas gelernt! Danke für die tolle Motivation!
Danke sehr!
Beautiful work, enjoyed watching!
Thanks, John!
Fantastic video! I love your “little red thingy” story!!
Thanks, Chris.
The essence of 27 years working in the automotive industry.
Beautiful work!
Professional job!! Congratulations!
I can't wait for the next video!
Thank you, Pantelis.
Attention to detail is magnificent. These are good for another 40 years!
Thanks, David.
In that case I think you’re right, this time they’ll last.
Love your videos. I always learn some technique to keep my car running and looking good. I'm slowly becoming "man enough" and getting "greasy fingers" thanks to you!
What a fantastic feedback. Thanks a ton!
Beautiful work as always
Thanks, Paul.
Again, great job ! Unbelievable skill BRAVO 👏
Many thanks, François.
Another beautiful video and superb work. Excited to see the finished work of art this car will be.
Thanks, Sweety. You’ll be the first to see it back on the road.
@@GreasyFingers Fingers crossed!
Awesome work! Love it. Thank You.
Welcome, mate!
Putting years on that motor without spending a fortune, just your time and skill Johannes and lots of patience i must add.. Can't fault you!!!
Amazing work, amazing
Thanks, Pierre! ☺️
Saubere Arbeit, einfach Klasse.
Danke sehr!
Thnx for a new video greetings all the way from Margarita Island, Venezuela.
Thanks, Jota.
Finde deine Videos sehr schön gemacht und erläutert. Habe Letztes jahr meinen 924s Komplett restauriert und finde man kann trotzdem einiges bei die lernen
Danke, Jannik. Viel Spaß mit dem 924! Ich mag die 4-Zylinder auch gern, irgendwann kommt einer ins Haus.
Your comments about the mindset of the Engineers and marketing/ budgeting departments at Stuttgart is profoundly evident when you compare a 1973 911 Carrera MFI to a 2020 model Taycan or GT3 RS. Love your work.
A totally different approach. Porsche today is one brand of many and they make off the shelf cars.
Great video. I just did this a few months ago. I took it one step further and sand blasted my housings, but to do so I needed to remove the bulbs. And that is where I ran into a problem. I tried to bend back the tabs, that hold in the bulb holders and they broke right off. I still need to figure out how to address this. I ended up using an epoxy just like you to fill some cracks I had and it worked perfect. I'm a long way from being able to try them out as my restoration is still on the rotisserie. Great video as usual! And I think this is a great topic as so many 911 owners need to address their light housings. I am going to share this on one Pelican Parts again for you!
Thanks, Rodney.
Exactly the same happened to me. I gave up after one tab had broken and accepted that I better not disassemble them completely.
If your project can be followed at any place on the web, please share the link. I’d love to see it.
Thanks a ton for sharing me again. Views have increased very significantly since you first did, I’m very grateful.
Great video enjoyed watching every bit of it. I had problems with my tail light housings so I did like you I took them out and took them apart repainted the outside painted and protected everything in but new wiring harness for the inside of the tail lights and now I have great working tail lights that I restored
Thanks, mate.
Restoring it is about ten times the fun of replacing it, right?
Who is giving these videos thumbs down? Amazing content, so glad I found this channel.
Thanks, Peter.
You know, the classic car world is a world of believers. Say just a word against someone’s creeds and you know what the result is.
Again an awesome video which shows the love for details. Interesting to see that even the good old Porsche quality is suffering under the years of usage. Dirt, salt and loads of water made their proper job of destruction. Well done. Great to see that your approach is not build a trailer queen. Because cars are made for driving.
That’s exactly how I see it!
Hello, thank you for another great video. An excellent product for eliminating dissimilar metal corrosion is Teffgel. It is a teflon grease developed in the boating industry where there are many cases of stainless steel fasteners being used on aluminium boat hulls.
Thanks for the tip!
I’ve googled it and it looks very convincing. Not a bargain though!
Fantastic
I really enjoy these films of yours. I've learned far more here than from Car Wizard.
That’s very reassuring. Thanks!
Super Arbeit mit viel Lieb zum Detail 👍👍
Danke, Hansjörg. Ja, ich hab’s nicht übers Herz gebracht, die kaputten Dinger wieder rein zu hängen.
AWESOME VIDEO 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Thanks, Anthony!
I have learned something new today, thx
Waisting your time by over-restoring a car is fun?
The best asmr Porsche video
Grazie mille, Mario!
Art, chemistry, and engineering.
Thank you, Scott. Loving your comment.
Sehr toll, vielen Dank !
Danke, Ulrich.
Today's chill out video on my breakfast break 🤗
Better you watch them for supper, they are soooo lulling.
@@GreasyFingers they are actually very interesting,when I finished at the dealership after 30 stressful years and cars loosing their individuality and becoming robotic this takes me back to 1987 when at 21 I started in the parts dept where I stayed , supplying bodyshops parts for your model and 924 944 and 928 was interesting then as time moved style and quality disappeared so Watching this is very memorable to me 🤗
Nice!!
Just found your channel - I like it! I’m going to have to go back to the beginning now and watch your videos from the start. Where will I find the time............to do my job, speak to my family? 😂
I suggest family - my films - job as a reasonable sequence of priorities. ☺️
I like liquid metal as well ! I used it at a similar location, for the head lights of my 924 from ´76.
Thanks, Siegfried.
Chasing a 924 myself theses days for a friend. MUCH underestimated cars!
Hallo wieder ein Super Video mit viel Liebe im Detail 👍👍👍👍 Würde ich einen 911 besitzen wüsste ich wo ich ihn hin bringen würde. Ja Aluminium und Eisen bei älteren Fahrzeugen ist immer gefährlich diese Erfahrung habe ich auch schon oft gemacht egal wie vorsichtig man ist, die Schraube lösen möchte, die Chance ist 50:50😉 freue mich schon auf das nächste Video. Schönes Wochenende. Mit freundlichen Grüßen aus dem Ruhrgebiet 👋👋👋Kai
Danke, Kai!
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Thanks, Bruce!
Love your dry humour Prof. Great work as always and a brilliant expose of modern purchasing practices and the quality "thingies" are priceless. Must get some. What was the liquid metal product please?
Thanks, my friend.
Ber-Fix® 25g 2K Flüssigmetall mir... www.amazon.de/dp/B00RD6A7AW?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
@@GreasyFingers Will look for it. Just ordered aGreasy Fingers T shirt. Will wear it and hope that your skills get magically transferred to me.
They promised me it’d work that way!
German RE-engineering. Very impressive.
Thanks, Alexander. 😊
Also, you can easily polish the outer lens now with a variety of product as easy as polishing paint on a car. I did my headlamps on both my cars easily and quickly. This is best done when the lenses are out even like you had them of course.
Thanks for the tip!
Great Video - Just wish you had some 993 content. Maybe in the future?
Thank you, James.
I had looking into buying a 993 at some point, but found prices too high and technology to advanced for a guy with the claim to do everything himself.
I love the almost british dry comment and the philosophy. This is Porsche - Yoga😀
Glad you like it. 😌
great
Thanks, Oliver!
Hi excellent video they look as good as new when you're finished.
Can you please let us know what products you used, in particular the paint for the aluminium, the metal and the seal conditioner.
Many thanks.
Keep up the good work.
Hello Liam. Thanks, glad you like it.
The paint is simple acrylic paint from the hardware store next door. The plastic conditioner is Koch Chemie Plast Star. The material I used to glue the cracks is named Liquid Metal. You can get it from different suppliers like e.g. Liqui Moly. I used some no-name product from Amazon.
glad my 87 911 hibernated in the garage every winter for 30 + years! no doubt there is probably contact corrosion 😢
Not sure. It requires a fair bit of salty water as an electrolyte.
Fantastic video as usual, how come you did not touch up the flaked off bits of missing white paint in the housing? some have used white nail polish with sucess.
Thanks!
Always the question of questions where and when to stop restoring.
Wanted to leave a like, but the likes were at 911...
Just know i love your videos!
Thanks, Martin.
I kind of like the 912 too. 😊
A very Zenlike approach to fixing things. I'm pretty sure car buffs in 30 years will have a hard time restoring today's cars-plastic is not forever and at least with aluminum you can refresh it.
Please-what rubber rejuvenating product are you using. I worked up a spreadsheet for rubber bits for a 1961 Alfa this weekend and had a heart attack. Thanks for the tip on EPDM-new to me and glad you pointed out this material. Thanks again
Hey Steve.
Some other viewer found out the stuff I used is not available in the US. Anyway, the product is named Koch Chemie Plast Star.
I guess you can just take Armor All, it does the same thing.
You deserve more subscribers! 'Build' it and they will come!
I too find, I deserve more subscribers.😊
How you mean build it?
Servus Johannes, mal wieder ein sehenswertes Video und eine filegrane Arbeit! Rechtzeitg zum Frühling bist du mit dem 3.2er langsam durch,oder ? Das Leuchtband ist bei Dir nicht gerissen? Ersatz ist ziemlich teuer! Schönes WE Rainer
Danke, Rainer. Nein, ist nicht gerissen. Verschreien wir‘s nicht ...
Love your solutions ! How is the floor of the car ? Doesn't that need a little help after all those years ?
It’s actually quite nice. It has been ice blasted at some point by the pre owner, but then he painted it and now, predictably, the paint lifts off. 🙄
Hello you help me a lot with your different vidéo and yes i had a shortcut in the right tail light
Many thanks for the feedback, Raul. Please recommend the channel to your friends and we’re even. ☺️
@@GreasyFingers yes i will ! I came back from a 158 km ride with mine this evening and want to improve it! Do plan to do your front suspension someday?
I did already, but that was before I made videos. Some of it can be seen in the film about the steering of the green Targa.
@@GreasyFingers thank you I saw some of the targa and will look this one. My car was badly affected by rust welding and 2 painting was done (first wasnt good insufficient preparation), new porsche body seals also. the rest is as it was
Yeah, they are no virgins.
But step by step you can make a great car.
try Duralac for dissimilar metal corrosion prevention, instead of loctite
In the middle of the same project on same car. What kind of primer did you use on the back cover? Back cover finish is galvanized. I´d also need to restore the reflective surface of the light housing (brake light and reverse) but I don´t know what type of paint to use. BTW, I love your videos.
The back covers‘ galvanic layer was all gone at mine, I just painted them and primed it with Brunox. In hindsight at least at the left side some stone guard is not a bad idea.
Chrome plating I don’t know, was okay at my car.
Very useful and detailed video and great skills. Is it possible to tell me how would the white interior colour can be restored? Mine really has come off in many places and I need also to restore the nice white color completely. How do I clean completely the white colour leftovers and then what primer and color should I use? I have a 911 2.4E MY73. Thank you in advance. Kyriakos
Cheers, Kyriakos.
These guys very likely have the answers to your questions, my experiences with them are very good.
www.lederzentrum.de
The problem is: they only habe them in German. Please see how far google translate can bring you and ask me the rest.
@@GreasyFingers I think you have misunderstood my question. With interior, I meant the interior of the light housing not the interior of the car. The interior/reflector of the tail light in your video is white and I need to find out how to restore it as the white color in my taillights has come out and the underneath area of silver color is appearing in many places. Thank you.
@@kyriakoskostaridakis6974 I have no experience with that, I’m sorry.
Hi, I just found your channel and subscribed, great work.
I am restoring my 2004 Carrera (in Dresden) and am currently working on the engine. I have spent some time with the dremel cleaning the aluminium casing, and the day after cleaning, crystals form on the surface of the metal which can grow quite big if I leave them. I can only presume the cleaning process has activated old road salt on the metal which is reacting to the water? Anyway, I have tried cleaning it off, but the crystals return. Do you have any experience with this, and any method of treating it? Many thanks in advance. Joël
Hi Joël.
Cheers for your project.
I have no idea. Just stabbing in the dark: have you tried different wire wheels on the Dremel? Maybe a plastic one?
@@GreasyFingersHi, thanks for your reply. I will look at using a plastic wheel. Maybe that will help. I tried a vinegar and distilled water mix yesterday so will check how that has worked out today. 👍
What size thread pitch did you use? 1.25? // what size drill bit to drill the new hole? // I'm currently restoring my lights on my 80 SC and the stock screw head broke off like yours - It's impossible to drill out the old screw - I need to replicate your excellent process
Hello Kim. I made an M4 & I used a cheap thread cutter kit that comes with the right drill bits for each thread size.
Thanks for sharing this video. Can you provide link to EPDM Sealant you used? Cannot find anywhere in Amazon.
Here’s the link to the German Amazon, I hope you can take it from there:
EUTRAS Fassungsprofil FP3001 Kantenschutz Dichtungsgummi - Spaltmaß 1,5 mm - schwarz - 3 m
www.amazon.de/dp/B01C1N2RL8/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_a_YBSR59R9G54RQVS2G8YE
@@GreasyFingers thank you, I’ll check it out.
Impressive as always! But you still have the Giulia, right?
Thanks, mate.
I do still have the Giulia and I will return to her once the Carrera is settled which will be very soon now and the sills of my buddy’s Bertone.
I would have used anti seize on the screws and a small oring to keep the water out, not Loctite.
Well done with welding, what did you use, looks like solder?
Thanks, mate. You’re binging my films, aren’t you? I admire your skill to resist falling asleep.
Yes, I used silver solder.
@@GreasyFingers yes I am binging, it was only 11pm, now it's 5:32am 👍😀
Would the aluminum screws be a better option for this application? Nice job
I guess they would in terms of corrosion, but I distrust them in terms of strength. I’d surely forget that I used aluminium screws and rip them off next time I tighten them. If I went for anything else then steel, it’d be titanium.
@@GreasyFingers I forgot about the titanium! Good catch. Anyway you did a very nice job. Nice talk. have a good one sir!
Did your thread lock Liqui Moly help keep corrosion out?
To be honest, I haven’t looked it up yet.
Thanks for reminding me of a promise …
As beautiful as these videos are, it makes me quite apprehensive to look too deep into my '74 911. It spent the first 20 years of it's life in the northern US, on Michigan roads. No telling what has occurred under the pretty exterior.
Thanks, mate.
As hard as it is, but every year your wait things are getting worse. Get the wrench out!
How could the interior of the lighthouse be restored? Where do the light bulbs reflect? Is painting white a good solution? I tried to do some tests with a mirror vinyl but as expected... It didn't work.
Write me a note on instagram, a friend of mine has solved this problem.
Is there a link to the rubber used around the edge frame..amazon?
Hi Dennis. Please browse through the comments, I’ve shared it a number of times.
Can you provide more info on the type of metal/resin you used? Where can we purchase it?
Hello Ethan,
I sure can:
Ber-Fix® 25g 2K Flüssigmetall mir... www.amazon.de/dp/B00RD6A7AW?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
bonjour super boulot ! le nom du produit pour rajeunir les joints ?? par avance merci de France
Le nom est métal liquide.
Je ferai un autre film sur le sujet dans deux ou trois semaines.
Could you not use aluminium screws to avoid dissimilar metal corrosion?
Sure!
Strength-wise, however, …
Perfect
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Korrosion kann man mit Kleber durchaus vermeiden weil der Kleber den Elektrolyten (Wasser) fernhält. Ohne Elektrolyten gibt es keine Korrosion. Am Rand wird es natürlich schwierig.
Ja!
Wie heißt das Mittel in die du die Gummidichtungen einlegst?
Dr. Koch Chemie
LL ist ja das traumhaft schöne Landsberg am Lech
Ja, das stimmt!
Es ist schön hier.
If you contemplate on an early 924 in the Rhein/ Ruhr area I would love to support your search…
That’s a very kind offer, thanks!
In fact my mate‘s search is now about to come to an end, he found a car in the NL that has my blessings. I’d love to return on you next time …
Hallo Siegfried, jetzt würde mein Freund sich doch dafür interessieren, dass Du ein Auto mit ihm ansiehst. Magst Du mich bitte auf meiner Mail halvar.v.flake@googlemail.com kontaktieren?
Where did you get the plastic conditioner? Thank you
The brand is Dr. Koch, they have it on Amazon.
How was the housing unplugged?
What?
You can also fix the rust holes in your car body with that Flussigmetall ;)
I knew someone would say that. 😜
@@GreasyFingers I must admit I have done much much worse and risky repairs with this material. I remember having fixed a broken Fiat 126 carb with this material when I was young. It worked very well though...
@@bertone83 You were young and needed the money!
What is the trick to get the tail light wire harness grommet back in to the body 15.27
Pulling from inside and at the same time pushing from outside. Pain in the a***
@@GreasyFingers How do you pull from the inside? There is nothing to grab on to? Thanks for your reply!
I’m sorry I don’t remember exactly.
All I remember is that it only worked when I used both hands inside and outside. Maybe I helped it in a bit by pulling the cable.
Top shelf films if you like corrosion come to Kauai :) Plenty of 911 projects in my shop.
You’re serious about corrosion there?
Is it because of the salty sea air?
I Need the link to the epdm profile 🤗
Here ya go:
EUTRAS Fassungsprofil FP3001... www.amazon.de/dp/B01C1N2RL8?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
You sound exactly like Werner hertzog the director ha. Could you recall the Amazon black weatherstrip you used on the lights name or link in Amazon I’d like to grab a roll of it . Porsche weatherstrips are very expensive and I need a lot. Thnx
Yeah, I hear that from time to time. I watched some interviews with Werner and came to the conclusion: you guys are right! 😀
You mean the rubber seal?
Yes the rubber seal sorry. The ones I see on Amazon don’t look as thin and playable as the one you were cutting. Thnx
@@jeffro70 Here you go.
The link points on the German Amazon, but at least you have a spec.
EUTRAS Fassungsprofil FP3001 Kantenschutz Dichtungsgummi - Spaltmaß 1,5 mm - schwarz - 3 m www.amazon.de/dp/B01C1N2RL8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_C46EGGPQ8SYERF14W8S1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
are you always adding thread lock but just now showing us until now ?
I normally don’t use it, I prefer mechanical means. In this case I used it to have a layer of insulation between the stainless steel screw and the aluminium case. Contact corrosion, you know.
Aluminum taillight casings? Wow!
That's a perfect example of the overengineering that made Germany's reputation!
The first 105 series Alfas also had aluminum taillight casings, but later ones were made of plastic, like many other parts on these cars. There is a clear quality decline visible from the late 60s to the late 70s...
The more I look into the cars of both brands the more I understand how up-in-the-clouds they were back then.
Well, as well described in the video, if you don't have a beautiful country to wander about like Italians , or good wines and food like French, you can as well design and manufacture great taillights and well insulated wiring!
Still laughing thinking about it, and good jokes always are told in the most serious manner.
Another great video Greesy fingers, thank you.
@@through_changes So much loving your comment.
Where are you based, mate?
@@GreasyFingers
Non industrial Greece.
We know this corrosion type is from dissimilar metals causing galvanic corrosion… the imbalance in electrons between the metals forms a battery causing the corrosion.
That’s it!
Plastic conditioner? Wo finde ich das
Here ya go
www.amazon.de/dp/B01974589W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_i_B3FS7CAZRYWRJE14FYWP?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@@GreasyFingers That one isn't available in the US unfortunately. It lists as 52 Euros-wow! I will try this one and see what happens smile.amazon.com/nextzett-91480615-Gummi-Pflege-Rubber
@@thesupernuge Yeah, I don’t think there are big differences between them.
Does Porsche still sell these original parts ?
A lot is available from Porsche, prices however are insane.
There’s a Danish company named JP that does high quality reproductions for reasonably money.
Wie, was, die Oberfläche der Rücklichter nicht aufpoliert mit diesen wunderbaren Produkten die mittlerweile gibt…?
Ach, weißt Du, die waren schön so wie sie waren.
Another superb video. I find very valuable the sections where you demonstrate how to get out of the additional trouble that results from attempts at restoration, such as the broken heads from screws that wouldn’t move. And, those little red insulation thingies! Thanks for the insight on how the development of those went down.
Have you seen the LED arrays for brake lights and tail lights, made by Jerome Joseph, a guy on the 911 and 914 bulletin boards who goes by the handle “Spoke.” I have his arrays on both my 914 and ‘87 Carrera. They’re a fine upgrade to the incandescent original bulbs. His website: Spokeworksled.com. Worth a look.
Thank you.
Thanks for the tip, Bob. That’s totally cool, I think it must try this ...
Love the work! Where do I sign up to come work for free? (And when I say work for free, that means you learning me the skills to be a master mechanic=)
Greasy Fingers Academy, you mean?
Yeah, that would be cool. May I ask where you live? 🇩🇰 🇸🇪 ?
@@GreasyFingers 🇸🇪👍
@@olahedlund5454 Just around the corner!
@@GreasyFingers Well kind of, I'd come work for free if I could learn to handle the work needed for my own car...but you'd need a dose of patience I've never seen in a petrolhead before. 😂
What’s your own car, Ola?
HI , STEVE HERE, LOVE THE CHANNEL SUPER INFORMATIVE .I HAVE A PROBLEM , I HAD TO REPAINT MY FRONT BUMPER ON MY 84 TARGA. BUT STUPID ME DID NOT PHOTO THE TURN SIGNAL CONNECTIONS . I AM TERRIBLE AT WIRING DIAGRAMS AND THERE IS NOTHING ON THE INTERNET TO HELP. CAN YOU GIVE ME ANY DIRECTION OR A PHOTO IF YOU HAVE............TY IN ADVANCE (DESPERATE) .....STEVE
Hab auch schon vor Jahren zwei G-Modelle restauriert, aber in solch üblen Zustand waren die Rückleuchten nie. Und der Rote ist doch von 88/89.
Der Rote ist von 87.
Unterschiedliche Autos haben oft unterschiedlichen Verschleiß an bestimmten Teilen.
lovely work. of course, in today's world, they just say 'rear light? you'll have to talk to the shareholders, we outsourced our entire production facility to china to maximise profits'.
Yeah, it’s a tragedy. There’d be much to say about it, but probably here’s not the right time and place. It’s just wrong.