How Mumble Rap Lost Its Cool

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
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    Often grouped together as a cultural ill, the concept of “mumble rap” dominated the hip-hop narrative for years at a time. Once viewed as one sub-category of the artform by those who reviled it rather than a collection of artists all striving towards individual goals, today ‘mumble rap’ is no longer a term that harbors any shred of validity to it. And by the same token, pledging your undying hatred for it as a ‘sub-genre’ now feels utterly redundant and embarrassing in its own right.
    As time separated who had talent from those that capitalized on a moment in time where skill seemed to matter less than meeting a simple criteria, the applicable traits of what was thought to be ‘mumble rap’ were taken and rehosted into more artistically fleshed-out music by those with the ability to do so.
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    Narrated by: Pro (@JaysnProlifiq)
    Written by: Robert Blair
    Edited by: Roman Bill
    Music by: Josh Petruccio
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  • @Hewhodoesntgiveafck
    @Hewhodoesntgiveafck Před 4 lety +2724

    All things come to an end. What y’all think the next wave gonna be?

    • @__boo
      @__boo Před 4 lety +332

      idk but all i gotta say is detroit is really goin nuts rn lol

    • @cemsen5460
      @cemsen5460 Před 4 lety +359

      its already here, this generation kids love melodic trash ass “rappers” and call polog the greatest to touch a mic🤣

    • @jebediahbush9718
      @jebediahbush9718 Před 4 lety +174

      Tap dancing.

    • @priv5581
      @priv5581 Před 4 lety +281

      Drill

    • @esho758
      @esho758 Před 4 lety +253

      Hard to tell tbh. Hip hop has always been about the drums not so much the melodies. What defines the "trap" sound is the low rumbling 808, crazy hi hat patterns, and use of triplets in both drums and flow. I can't imagine what could improve on that formula, but I hope someone else can and soon because I feel like trap is on its last legs. I've heard producers tweak the 808 by adding distortion or even playing it in reverse, but if they keep using it in those same rhythms its still going to have the same feel. Maybe there's a chance it'll start sounding more like early-mid 2000's hip hop similar timbaland/neptunes productions with rich futuristic sounding synths and more variation in drum sounds and patterns, but with a modern twist.

  • @acastello129
    @acastello129 Před 4 lety +3798

    “Only real music last, all that other bullshit is here today and gone tommo...”

    • @thawindyking2740
      @thawindyking2740 Před 4 lety +206

      The realest quote regarding music, actual factual. Everytime I hear that, bring a smile to my face 💯

    • @palaceprada2641
      @palaceprada2641 Před 4 lety +13

      Mmm Idek bought that

    • @kingMadnus
      @kingMadnus Před 4 lety +129

      Do ya mean gone tommoooorrrrooow

    • @theodorebouchet321
      @theodorebouchet321 Před 4 lety +11

      who said that again?

    • @RiceBrispies
      @RiceBrispies Před 4 lety +106

      Theodore Bouchet intro on Pound Cake/Paris Morton Music 2

  • @YokaiGotha
    @YokaiGotha Před 4 lety +1558

    When you base your whole career on riding a wave, your career crashes when the wave does.

  • @FrankMontes24
    @FrankMontes24 Před 3 lety +222

    “1985” by J. Cole
    “When day them kids that’s listening, they gonna grow up. And get too old for that shit made you blow up.”

    • @GoodLook911
      @GoodLook911 Před 2 lety +15

      Yep...Cole foretold this nonsense was gona fade...

  • @afording1
    @afording1 Před 4 lety +103

    I never cared for mumble and Soundcloud rap. I used to ask my friends what they liked about it, and they said the beat. I asked them if they liked the rapper or the beat more. Usually, it was the beat.

    • @GeteMachine
      @GeteMachine Před 2 lety +11

      Then whats the point of the rapper? Its such a stupid argument people make and the reason why most of these rappers are a dime a dozen, because people just ignore how awful they are with the excuse that they like the beat. Its like defending a book because you like the paper, not the words. Half the time a lot of these rappers can't even make coherent songs, and just lower the standard when they get popular by clowns who just claim they like the beats, even though most trap beats are pretty much the same slow snare tap in most songs anyway. This soundcloud generation really helped make rap shitty today.

    • @ronnie8271
      @ronnie8271 Před 2 lety +4

      For me it’s a matter of how it makes me feel, the lyrics aren’t serious they’re goofy and catchy and it just makes me have a good time when I listen to music I do it to have fun not to closely listen because it’s considered “good”

    • @youforget1000thingsaday
      @youforget1000thingsaday Před rokem

      ​@@GeteMachineTrue sh*t. The tin can roof beats and incoherent mumbling fvcked the game up big time.

  • @anzakutama3489
    @anzakutama3489 Před 4 lety +3215

    21 Savage has evolved

    • @anthonyt425
      @anthonyt425 Před 4 lety +293

      His evolution was dope AF.

    • @philosophy20
      @philosophy20 Před 4 lety +139

      Definetly evolved from album one to album two.

    • @speakyourlyfe
      @speakyourlyfe Před 4 lety +24

      Agreed.

    • @EclecticoIconoclasta
      @EclecticoIconoclasta Před 4 lety +235

      21 Savage was from the beginning a gangsta rapper with a more serious tone to his music. Afterwards he started to become an almost concious rapper up to the point of having J. Cole as a feature. He ended up winning a Grammy

    • @RandomBlackGamer
      @RandomBlackGamer Před 4 lety +244

      21 was never a mumble rapper imo. He just came out around the time style was taking off.

  • @killahN1987
    @killahN1987 Před 4 lety +4576

    The fans grew up

    • @larryjake7783
      @larryjake7783 Před 4 lety +695

      "...One day, them kids that's listening gon' grow up
      And get too old for that shit that made you blow up
      Now your show's lookin' light cause they don't show up
      Which unfortunately means the money slow up
      Now you scramblin' and hopin' to get hot again
      But you forgot you only popped 'cause you was ridin' trends..."---- J. Cole

    • @emperorza5777
      @emperorza5777 Před 4 lety +25

      Lmao

    • @jayvondavis1558
      @jayvondavis1558 Před 4 lety +116

      Forreal I was a teenager when that list came out

    • @invaderkym
      @invaderkym Před 4 lety +158

      J cole know what he talking about

    • @Terpio15000
      @Terpio15000 Před 4 lety +17

      Larry Jake goat

  • @EdmundKempersDartboard
    @EdmundKempersDartboard Před 2 lety +113

    As a metal head first I learned pretty early on that there is going to be movements in your preferred genre you just don't get. I don't think any other genre has spawned so many offshoots as metal or has gatekeepers as stubborn. Music is going to evolve. Have to learn that you don't need to personally like something to accept and not be a tool about it. Crunk core is a perfect example and it touches both rap and metal. It's bad. It's also perfectly valid.

    • @Samoan_Metalhead
      @Samoan_Metalhead Před 2 lety +12

      We need more Metalheads like you. I can go from Schoolboy Q, Kendrick Lamar to Dying Fetus and Black Sabbath

    • @Laidback718
      @Laidback718 Před 2 lety +1

      Metal YUCK🤢🤢

    • @TheBucketSkill
      @TheBucketSkill Před 2 lety +15

      @@Laidback718 Lol metal encompasses too many genres. You like some form of it, you just don't know it.

    • @badxgrass
      @badxgrass Před 2 lety +8

      @@Laidback718 You are the perfect example of what his comment was talking about, Deadpool.

    • @EJD339
      @EJD339 Před 2 lety +5

      @@badxgrass I mean I don’t like metal but doesn’t mean it’s bad lol. All genres of music can bring something to the table and are cool in their own right imo

  • @coke8077
    @coke8077 Před 4 lety +33

    Back in the old days it was the bars that made up for the beat, now the beat makes up for the bars, and the vocals are just for a vibe

  • @KenCrocodile
    @KenCrocodile Před 4 lety +1466

    Uzi: i make feel good music.
    Yachty: i make positive music.
    21: i make murder music 🗡️.

    • @paradoxr.n.o8688
      @paradoxr.n.o8688 Před 4 lety +16

      Damn 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @JayColeBoy
      @JayColeBoy Před 4 lety +18

      How can mumble rap be out if nothing is here replacing it?

    • @snurcle
      @snurcle Před 4 lety +27

      Feel like 21, “issa knife”

    • @kinggeee9570
      @kinggeee9570 Před 4 lety +3

      Trayvhon McCall true

    • @coajdka
      @coajdka Před 4 lety +2

      @@JayColeBoy what?

  • @bigOne38
    @bigOne38 Před 4 lety +1970

    Short answer: People are 3 years older and out of high school

    • @Nevgetdamoney
      @Nevgetdamoney Před 4 lety +30

      I literally was about to comment this

    • @numetalguitarist2377
      @numetalguitarist2377 Před 4 lety +27

      Do high schoolers really listen to this trash?

    • @backupstandup5465
      @backupstandup5465 Před 4 lety +69

      yea but we listen to lil uzi and 21 savage still there just not considered mumble rappers

    • @numetalguitarist2377
      @numetalguitarist2377 Před 4 lety +24

      @@backupstandup5465 no one over the age of 12 listens to that trash

    • @sigiIkore
      @sigiIkore Před 4 lety +63

      nu metal guitarist speak for yourself bub

  • @Noctua8
    @Noctua8 Před 4 lety +60

    Mos Def himself said, "if you wanna know where hip-hop is going, ask yourself where you are going". Ppl are gonna enjoy this turn up music in high school, then they will eventually grow up. Look at 21 for an example, he's wayy more mature now. Even Lil Baby has broken the mumble rapper mold and he made some conscious hip hop.
    Ppl like Polo G are the next step. He takes the trap style of mumble rap he grew up with, but he's more mature than that so he comments on street life and his music is pretty conscious too.
    Hip hop is going to a good place. We just have to have faith in the younger generation

    • @weekendwarrior5732
      @weekendwarrior5732 Před 4 lety +3

      Throw in dababy as well

    • @Noctua8
      @Noctua8 Před 4 lety +3

      @@weekendwarrior5732 true Kirk was pretty good tbh but he kinda reverted back to just straight turn up music lol

    • @no1u521
      @no1u521 Před 3 lety

      Is that IAMJAYCE as your profile pic lmao

    • @Noctua8
      @Noctua8 Před 3 lety

      @@no1u521 yessir

    • @balmain-i3e
      @balmain-i3e Před 3 lety +2

      @@weekendwarrior5732 man I love dababy but his quality and his music has gotten greyscale lately.

  • @solitary2668
    @solitary2668 Před 4 lety +30

    people that can enjoy and appreciate all forms of music and don’t think they are better just cuz of the music they listen to >>>

    • @linojvni2038
      @linojvni2038 Před 3 lety

      banger

    • @Realkeepa
      @Realkeepa Před 3 lety

      wrong at all

    • @atlas5777
      @atlas5777 Před 2 lety

      That’s because we’re young bro, just give it a few decades, we’ll probably be ragging on the new gen just like these old heads talking about how they’re not as melodic as Uzi or some shit. I’m gonna try not to be that way but that’s how it is with humanity and aging

  • @aryamazandarani6373
    @aryamazandarani6373 Před 4 lety +1227

    As much as I don't really like the whole "mumble rap movement", I completely understand why it became so popular. It was something different, creative, and something new. I think people are little by little getting over it, but the one thing that I really don't agrere with is how wide the boundaries of hip-hop are. The fact that IGOR is considered a hip-hop album just goes to show that either people havent heard the damn album or it gets thrown in there bc tyler is a black male hip hop artist

    • @MotiMota15
      @MotiMota15 Před 4 lety +10

      Arya Mazandarani how is igor not hip hop

    • @dntwasteit8547
      @dntwasteit8547 Před 4 lety +77

      Arya Mazandarani creative? They’re all defendants of Young Thug who is a descendant of Lil Wayne and 95% are flow biters

    • @andrewsnay3356
      @andrewsnay3356 Před 4 lety +60

      Mw this is the most accurate take-Wayne has had crazy influence on the rap game and the follow up to that was Thug, who has had so many rapping styles and melodies over the years, eventually other people start to sound like him

    • @jayvondavis1558
      @jayvondavis1558 Před 4 lety +3

      Mori Kriman It would really be easier for you to explain how it is Hip Hop

    • @MotiMota15
      @MotiMota15 Před 4 lety +16

      @@jayvondavis1558 its a fusion of hip hop and soul with a lofi flair

  • @eyecoordination6876
    @eyecoordination6876 Před 4 lety +415

    HipHopMadness: Mumble rap lost its cool
    BlackySpeakz: Mumble rap doesn't even exist

    • @mihai5214
      @mihai5214 Před 4 lety +5

      Recruit

    • @codeytherex5954
      @codeytherex5954 Před 4 lety +73

      MUMBLE rap does not Exist
      That's a FACT

    • @selfishbeats
      @selfishbeats Před 4 lety +27

      It does exist it’s a colloquial term that encompasses all low skill level, non rappers .

    • @isaiahstubbs9615
      @isaiahstubbs9615 Před 4 lety +19

      It doesn’t exist. It’s all art.

    • @selfishbeats
      @selfishbeats Před 4 lety +17

      Isaiah Stubbs some forms of art are clearly lesser... Mumble rappers are out here drawing stick figures while a lyricist paints pictures.

  • @notting2640
    @notting2640 Před 2 lety +58

    Mumble rap has evolved since its inception 6 years ago.
    Those that evolved along with it and found their own sound/styles (Carti, Uzi, 21, NBA etc) are arguably the leaders of a new age of rap going into the 2020s.
    While those that only rode the mumble rap wave and refused to change (Pump, Xan, Desiigner etc) simply died along with the trend.

  • @lawnprinter300
    @lawnprinter300 Před 4 lety +157

    I swear these videos don’t be saying shit, just convoluted sentences that sound intelligent but really have nothing of substance lol

    • @onyxt3589
      @onyxt3589 Před 3 lety +1

      Lol

    • @jonathanmorton9197
      @jonathanmorton9197 Před 3 lety +8

      Ong feels like he had to make his essay 3 pages long

    • @relentlesseducator
      @relentlesseducator Před 3 lety +7

      you are correct as the whole point is to keep you on the screen long enough to squeeze in more ads. The whole game is dragging out your attention not having substance, Its so wack

    • @renehopkinson5079
      @renehopkinson5079 Před 3 lety +1

      So true its like he's just talking and its spinning im my ears
      So annoying

    • @ericglenn9984
      @ericglenn9984 Před 3 lety

      It sound good tho. Talking bout shit that we all lived through like we wasn't there

  • @SamadSaVage
    @SamadSaVage Před 4 lety +1515

    Does a video on a old head topic, gets an old head sponsor lol

  • @Big-Papa-Smurf
    @Big-Papa-Smurf Před 2 lety +9

    A big problem I see with this generation in hip-hop is just the lack of competition. When everybody has their own lane, that means nobody has to compete. Where there's no competition there is no discipline. Without discipline, there is no cause for greatness.

  • @shermana1g46db3
    @shermana1g46db3 Před 3 lety +31

    Not gonna lie this was a stain on the game im kinda glad there are more skilled rappers coming in the game now

  • @teenamazingsquad.2042
    @teenamazingsquad.2042 Před 4 lety +683

    No lie but Melodic rap is taking over right now

    • @BirdieImagineeBCH
      @BirdieImagineeBCH Před 4 lety +20

      Can you name me upcoming melodic artists/rappers and put me on?

    • @jerseygetsherwetter345
      @jerseygetsherwetter345 Před 4 lety +16

      @@BirdieImagineeBCH stay solid rocky

    • @kendrickisthegoat7491
      @kendrickisthegoat7491 Před 4 lety +137

      imaginee Roddy Ricch, Rod Wave, NBA Youngboy, Young Thug, YNW Melly, etc.

    • @kendrickisthegoat7491
      @kendrickisthegoat7491 Před 4 lety +80

      nu metal guitarist okay sure your opinion. But I myself like all rap and love the variety that it has very broad genre and I prefer music/beats to rapping and a lot of “mumble” rappers have the best production imo especially the biggest of all mumble rappers Playboi Carti the beats he uses no other rapper could get on them because they’re not suited for rapping but they sound great and carti does what he can with the beat given

    • @lilmilkdud6874
      @lilmilkdud6874 Před 4 lety +13

      nu metal guitarist music is completely subjective so nothing is really trash

  • @Justin_Cunningham
    @Justin_Cunningham Před 4 lety +355

    RIP The Soundcloud Rap Era
    2016-2019

    • @abdullahraja4740
      @abdullahraja4740 Před 4 lety +21

      69 is from the sound cloud era and he made billboard #1 couple of weeks ago. Uzi has 26 billboard charting songs this year. Don’t think you know enough 😬

    • @justarandomguy7224
      @justarandomguy7224 Před 4 lety +18

      @@abdullahraja4740 69 got to one cuz of nicki hes actually shit

    • @SCF721
      @SCF721 Před 4 lety +9

      @@justarandomguy7224 69 had a bunch of #1 songs before Nicki though

    • @Justin_Cunningham
      @Justin_Cunningham Před 4 lety +28

      @@abdullahraja4740 just because those artists are still active doesn't mean the soundcloud era has persisted. The era ended with Juice Wrlds death and 6ix9ines trial among other things. Maybe you should do some research yourself instead of insulting people.

    • @jordanscott2006
      @jordanscott2006 Před 4 lety +4

      @@SCF721 no he doesn't he a bunch of top ten hits but only one number 1 single

  • @aidenthegod
    @aidenthegod Před 4 lety +18

    i know i have said this before, but imma say it again anyway.
    "mumble rap" doesn't exist and it never did.
    the whole "mumble rap" wave was just "trap music" with another title. '
    "mumble rap" was just a way for old-heads to refer to modern hip-hop/rap.
    the wave never existed as "mumble rap", and most of the artists mentioned/shown in this video (uzi, kodak, 21, future, lil baby, gunna, and thugga) are still popular. they don't even mumble in their music. maybe artists like young thug and carti mumble a bit, but you can still hear them well.
    the artists i mentioned (who are commonly classified as "mumble rappers") didn't lose their popularity. the wave they are a part of didn't lose it's "cool". it never existed as "mumble rap" in the first place.

    • @JordanWilliams-ix2td
      @JordanWilliams-ix2td Před 2 lety

      doesnt matter all the "rappers" you listed are trash

    • @modarnwarfare2rull
      @modarnwarfare2rull Před 2 lety

      @@JordanWilliams-ix2td Young Thug is one of the goats lmao, stay mad old head

    • @_ry4n.s217
      @_ry4n.s217 Před 2 lety

      @@JordanWilliams-ix2td crazy how u fall so hard into this perfect box of "old head" constantly shitting on whats new and different is so cornball. old rap is dope asf, and so is new rap. and all those rappers are some of the biggest out rn and u cant just generalize a whole gen of music. its ignorant

  • @TheImSolid
    @TheImSolid Před 4 lety +18

    2015-2019 era of Rap should be remembered like every other one. We got good and bad music, but what we did get was the ability of rappers coming from independent backgrounds with crazy or wacky personalities and fashion sense, to be successful while keeping their own style without bending over for a major label.

  • @Speaker12311
    @Speaker12311 Před 4 lety +279

    Believe or not this is not a new phenomenon. In Jazz, they had something called scatting which they would rhythmically say nonsensical words as part of the song

    • @alfredmohammed9197
      @alfredmohammed9197 Před 4 lety +37

      Very underrated comment, this is not new. But just like mumble rap today it sort of died out.

    • @elijahgavin6706
      @elijahgavin6706 Před 4 lety +6

      Check out Yungd1se on IG, he has a small following from rapping without any actual words. Fucking hilarious

    • @affiqborhannuddin
      @affiqborhannuddin Před 3 lety +1

      @@alfredmohammed9197 Agreed

    • @markoramirezz
      @markoramirezz Před 3 lety

      @Luke Ik this has nun to do w anything but yachtys real name is miles 😂

    • @NiteDriv3r
      @NiteDriv3r Před 3 lety +5

      @@alfredmohammed9197 Jazz as a whole died out

  • @koolkid533
    @koolkid533 Před 4 lety +64

    The rappers today not sounding like rappers back then, and rapping different is to be expected. Young people are always rebellious and don’t like doing what older people tell them to do, they like doing their own thing. The younger generation being rebellious isn’t just rap its society in general.

    • @prod.eenigma
      @prod.eenigma Před 4 lety +12

      And even then keeping rap the same would end up being the same as the death of rock. The same style was so overused in the 80s that it killed the genre

    • @koolkid533
      @koolkid533 Před 4 lety

      @@prod.eenigma exactly

    • @numetalguitarist2377
      @numetalguitarist2377 Před 4 lety +5

      Mumbling about bitches, money and drugs is so rebelious right lol lol. You know who was a REBELL? machine head, sepultura, system of a down

    • @numetalguitarist2377
      @numetalguitarist2377 Před 4 lety +2

      @@koolkid533 there is NOTHING rebellious in being a no talent drug addict

    • @youngethoo4xx648
      @youngethoo4xx648 Před 4 lety

      Rap is rap

  • @jojodancer1743
    @jojodancer1743 Před 2 lety +30

    "It's just the times bro. Let the times be."
    That has to be the most creative excuse for being garbage and not being ashamed of being garbage I have ever heard.

  • @AlejandroRamirez-rx1py
    @AlejandroRamirez-rx1py Před 4 lety +15

    I never cared for mumble rap from its inception. However, I understood its importance in the genre and how it gravitated people in with its melodic style and eccentric characters. Yet, at the end of the day, people grow up and yearn for substance and complexity. So, if the people don't evolve or grow they get left behind like so many fads before it. That's exactly what's happening: kids are growing up, artists are not popping the way it was like in the beginning, oversaturated the market and no long term goals.

  • @uzzieladega9560
    @uzzieladega9560 Před 4 lety +503

    I think "mumble rap" was something that HAD to happen for the culture, it had to be gotten out of the way. But the fact that nearly all the rappers from the 2016 XXL Class ended up successful showed it was more of a stepping stone other than a stage in the history of rap.

    • @sereroserera367
      @sereroserera367 Před 4 lety +10

      I don't really see the correlation. Their success only shows there was a demand for it.

    • @xxnirvandabossxx8304
      @xxnirvandabossxx8304 Před 3 lety +1

      @@sereroserera367 I like it man I don't want it to die

    • @oceanbreeze1162
      @oceanbreeze1162 Před 3 lety +29

      @@sereroserera367 most have evolved. Besides, idk how one can listen to lil uzi or 21 savage and say it's mumble.
      Playboi carti, future, kodak (some songs) are all actual mumble

    • @Realkeepa
      @Realkeepa Před 3 lety

      like teledubbys?

    • @Realkeepa
      @Realkeepa Před 3 lety

      @@xxnirvandabossxx8304 kid

  • @mikelamar112
    @mikelamar112 Před 4 lety +238

    It’s had it’s run and it died in 2019. You have to have skills there’s no way around that.

    • @Historicutuber
      @Historicutuber Před 4 lety +11

      Amen lol

    • @edk487
      @edk487 Před 4 lety +33

      Lil uzi and future are still popping

    • @coollibra3644
      @coollibra3644 Před 4 lety +42

      @@edk487 last ones hanging on. Real skill is coming back.

    • @zakyyy10
      @zakyyy10 Před 4 lety +66

      @@edk487 Uzi, Future, Lil Baby and even Gunna have the best selling albums this year lol and Thugger, Migos and 21 will drop and go platinium and some consider Travis a mumbler too but he still the hottest out but every year old heads be like "skill is coming back" lmao
      I mean my favorite rappers are all lyrical but what they call "mumble rap" isnt gonna die cuz rappers like Future who been consistent since 2010 or Thugger who birthed a whole generation arent gonna fall off just like that by tomorrow

    • @MK-ov5cf
      @MK-ov5cf Před 4 lety +5

      Cool Libra remind me someone w “real skill” who popping rn...

  • @monot00nz
    @monot00nz Před 2 lety +17

    I love how when mumble rap was huge it was, "Nah, these oldhead rappers need to adapt" and not even half a decade later these same mumble rappers have had to adapt.
    If that isn't irony I don't know what is.

    • @roddur1000
      @roddur1000 Před 2 lety

      Lol theyre still more relevant than lyrical rappers

    • @monot00nz
      @monot00nz Před 2 lety +3

      @@roddur1000 popular and relevant aren't the same thing

    • @SonnySantana2099
      @SonnySantana2099 Před 2 lety +1

      @@roddur1000 they arent

    • @deanbenford7363
      @deanbenford7363 Před 2 lety

      I'm surprised they even thought their run would be long, kids move on to the "next" shit real quick.

  • @DontfuckwithdaGunslinger420

    I agree Hip Hop is supposed to evolve, but mumbling isn’t evolving. That devolving Hip Hop

    • @wm_9640
      @wm_9640 Před 3 lety +11

      Spot on. Change doesn’t always = evolution. But hey I guess we’re just cranky old heads who “just don’t get it” lol smh 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @dfredankey
      @dfredankey Před 3 lety +7

      @@wm_9640 you are just an old head y’all listening to messages too damn much I can listen to cole and new age both saying shit I fw I don’t need to be motivated all the time

    • @RaytellSmokes74
      @RaytellSmokes74 Před 3 lety +1

      It always have evolved because it hasn’t been around for even 100 years. Next up is melodic rap. Similar to the Tpain era but revamped. I can name a dozen mumble rappers from the 80s and 90s

    • @Acedegenerate07
      @Acedegenerate07 Před 2 lety

      @@RaytellSmokes74 name em

    • @Acedegenerate07
      @Acedegenerate07 Před 2 lety

      @@dfredankey point still stands ha

  • @6aliph77
    @6aliph77 Před 4 lety +266

    Mumble rap is like fast food, it feels good but you don't really get nothing out of it

    • @ericglenn9984
      @ericglenn9984 Před 3 lety +19

      Like this video

    • @dj2coo769
      @dj2coo769 Před 3 lety +12

      Mumble rap is horrible 😂

    • @BoqPrecision
      @BoqPrecision Před 3 lety +3

      I feel like this narrator is a kid and I'm sorely in need of a more mature in-depth analysis of mumble raps rise and fall

    • @dfredankey
      @dfredankey Před 3 lety +1

      @@BoqPrecision shit didn’t fall @ all still going up

    • @Acedegenerate07
      @Acedegenerate07 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dfredankey nope its falling

  • @DANtheMANofSIPA
    @DANtheMANofSIPA Před 4 lety +718

    If it sounds good, Ill listen to it. 🤷‍♀️ Every song doesnt need amazing lyrics

    • @treefiddytwoo
      @treefiddytwoo Před 4 lety +162

      true but it can’t sound fkn brain dead either

    • @dionpace22
      @dionpace22 Před 4 lety +94

      Thank you! Music is just supposed to sound good to whoever think it's sounds good to. If you want amazing bars there's artist that give you that

    • @DontfuckwithdaGunslinger420
      @DontfuckwithdaGunslinger420 Před 4 lety +47

      But there are artist that can make music sound great and have amazing lyrics

    • @hostedbytristan
      @hostedbytristan Před 4 lety +5

      Exactly

    • @printezstroman
      @printezstroman Před 4 lety +41

      A song is lyrics put to music. The lyrics are very important.

  • @milos1967
    @milos1967 Před 2 lety +9

    I think another big exception in this class besides curry is Anderson Paak. He also has a melodic style, but in a much more traditional kind of soul/funk direction that I think a lot more people can appreciate.

  • @mako4268
    @mako4268 Před 3 lety +12

    2016 is still my favorite XXL Freshman cypher. I still listen to listen to a lot of Lil Yachty and Lil Uzi Vert.

  • @pastense
    @pastense Před 4 lety +372

    Uhhh, you can exclude Anderson .Paak too. Not only is he “lyrically adept”, he’s in a category all his own.

    • @pastense
      @pastense Před 4 lety +2

      YUNG KULA bruh, if you call him rnb, then you really don’t know what rnb is...smh

    • @pastense
      @pastense Před 4 lety +11

      YUNG KULA but he’s rappin too tho. Whether you accept it or not, brotha is rappin. Like I said...he in a category all himself. Ppl (like yourself) just don’t wanna year what he sayin. Sucks for u.

    • @pastense
      @pastense Před 4 lety +3

      @YUNG KULA he not, neither would he say so. And nowhere near Nelly...wtf?? lol u really DON'T understand...

    • @MichaelNixjr
      @MichaelNixjr Před 4 lety +1

      pastense d riding

    • @pastense
      @pastense Před 4 lety +2

      Lord Sur-Eeb get off ya own D. This is game recognize game, chump.

  • @Mr.8point5
    @Mr.8point5 Před 4 lety +103

    Hell nah I was confused once that Keeps ad popped up..like wtf mumble rap got to do with male pattern baldness😅gotta pay closer attention

    • @brandonmcmillion8612
      @brandonmcmillion8612 Před 4 lety +7

      Bro I swear they know my hairline fucked up lmao

    • @atlegangmatlala7858
      @atlegangmatlala7858 Před 4 lety +6

      Mans could've made a joke about how all these rappers gonna be balding because of the damage to their hair and tied it into the video in a smart way, he was a little abrupt with the ad.

    • @Mr.8point5
      @Mr.8point5 Před 4 lety

      Jesus haha I’m sayin,caught me off guard

  • @nrd10
    @nrd10 Před 3 lety +14

    Not everyone can stay consistent with bangers and stay relevant like Future and Young thug , they are the goats of the trap industry

  • @joeymoehlenkamp1097
    @joeymoehlenkamp1097 Před 4 lety +32

    Mumble rap In general can’t compare to the old school greats of that time lyrics, bars rhymes and insane beats.

  • @ruggerREL
    @ruggerREL Před 4 lety +40

    Sometime between the age of 25-28 I realized hiphop is not marketed for people aged over 25 very rarely does a new artist can make someone 25 and older gravitate to a NEW artist

    • @viernes1999
      @viernes1999 Před 2 lety +5

      Rare indeed

    • @DarthVantos
      @DarthVantos Před 2 lety +9

      This is pretty bad for rap. Considering Pop, rock and other genres can get new listens over 30. This isolates Rap in generations.

    • @aaronlampkin284
      @aaronlampkin284 Před 2 lety +3

      @@DarthVantos Blame old heads and new age fans.

    • @hakeemsd70m
      @hakeemsd70m Před rokem +1

      I'm in my late 20s now, and I agree with this. I've actually stopped listening to trap music all together, with the exception of some older Gucci Mane songs that I grew up with from the late 00s and early 10s.

  • @acanadianeh8344
    @acanadianeh8344 Před 4 lety +255

    “Mumble rap” started in the south as their own local sound, but as those guys got more popular & ppl from other plces started listening they either fucked with it or hated it like most new things that come out.
    It was a fusion of thick southern accents accompanied by “trap” slang from the south with a melodic take on rap(sometimes lean thrown in there lol..).
    Eastcoast is known for more lyrical based content, it makes sense why nyc rappers were some of the more vocal ones about how they couldn’t understand it & sorta ripping on the newer sound as a whole.
    Some of the influences i think took hiphop here are:
    Weezy for his late 2000s style of melodic auto tune rap, in comparison to a tpain who also used auto tune but was known more for cleaner radio friendly kinda style where as lil wayne was just as raw on his auto tune type tracks.
    Gucci mane for his lyrical content , accent & slang as a whole . As in talking about trapping, hustling, or jus his street sense & terms in general.
    Chief keef for fusing gucci and weezy while adding his own sauce to the mix, but most importantly being young and connecting to younger fans, he brought it all to a whole new generation & paved the way for everyone after in a sense
    I didnt think this comment would end up being this long, but i really thought about it for a minute lol. Up for debate on it tho ahaa.
    Much love, thanks for reading, i could really go on and on lol
    EDIT** added to what i meant about Guccis lyrical content. Not gona take the time to fix the typos or fill in the slang here lol jus wanted to create room for a convo

    • @jameshamilton5947
      @jameshamilton5947 Před 4 lety +5

      U think Gucci lyrical and not Lil Wayne!?

    • @acanadianeh8344
      @acanadianeh8344 Před 4 lety +2

      James Hamilton lil wayne is in my top5 lyricists of all time ! Love weezy aha. I guess i shoulda added I meant gucci’s lyrical content about trapping, hustling, his street sense & terms in general, weezy forsure contributed to the new waves lyrical content too but they’re not as bar heavy as lil wayne

    • @acanadianeh8344
      @acanadianeh8344 Před 4 lety

      Spencer fully agree ! I feel like it falls under the “melodic rap” umbrella rather than “mumble”, but everything you mentioned are deff their own respective subgenres.
      There’s cross overs between collabs or artists fusing other sub genres but there’s still room to differentiate to categorize

    • @jameshamilton5947
      @jameshamilton5947 Před 4 lety

      @@acanadianeh8344 Ok

    • @acanadianeh8344
      @acanadianeh8344 Před 4 lety +1

      Spencer honestly i feel like if drill can find a way into the mainstream sound it deff can be more than a street/underground culture. With bigger names supporting/shouting out drill artists & even collabs, theres huge crossover potential into mainstream. Thing is, melodic rap was able to be cleaned up a little then feature a pop artist or 2 & sell millions of records, it was able to crossover from the streets to the mainstream just by already having catchy melodies but also a street appeal, basically college kids to street dudes could buy into the sound hence rap being mor popular now than ever. But we all kno what kinda rap sells and what kinda rap fans usually jus bump in the whip by themselves or with their boys, drill jus needs to somehow gain some pop appeal, a lotta ppl would think it loses its pop appeal if so tho

  • @CrashCarson14
    @CrashCarson14 Před 3 lety +31

    I was in college when these guys were at the top. That was all we played. That 2016 class was at the frontlines of popular music. I still listen and these guys are all almost gone, and a new wave is here. I do really like these newer guys but it is sad to feel old lol

    • @musahaque2000
      @musahaque2000 Před rokem +1

      I was in high school and even then I wasn't down with most of them because they really were wack, there were more underrated artists comin' out at the same time who didn't get the same fame cause they weren't jumpin' on that train.

  • @niteshvanapalli9587
    @niteshvanapalli9587 Před 3 lety +6

    Mumble rap was never cool. Thank god it ended in 2018.

  • @sphakamisozondi
    @sphakamisozondi Před 4 lety +179

    Gimmicks go stale after a while. Real music sticks. Look at Young thug. He was mumbling like crazy before. Now you can clearly hear him rap.

    • @miguelg.3884
      @miguelg.3884 Před 4 lety +26

      Still trash though

    • @sphakamisozondi
      @sphakamisozondi Před 4 lety +26

      @@miguelg.3884 Exactly. Lol, my arguement was on gimmicks. Thug (trash as he is) grew out of that, and solicited help from J cole. Because, mumble rap has no future.

    • @angel.1202
      @angel.1202 Před 4 lety +18

      @@sphakamisozondi hes literally the father of current rappers

    • @LegendaryMamba24
      @LegendaryMamba24 Před 4 lety +35

      Miguel G. so you just watched a whole video about appreciating modern art forms and understanding cultural trends and yet you still call Young Thug trash 🤔. He’s a great artist imo, just not in the traditional rap sense

    • @babyorenji4211
      @babyorenji4211 Před 4 lety +30

      Thug (imo) uses his voice like an instrument. Doesn't matter what he is saying because he is sonically pleasing

  • @The_Backman
    @The_Backman Před 4 lety +35

    21, Uzi, Even Yatchy evolved. Mumble rap been dead.

    • @MrDeathShotz
      @MrDeathShotz Před 4 lety +6

      Uzi grew on me a LOT even though I didn't really like him too much when I first heard him but he's definitely in my top 5 current artists.

    • @petersocko9135
      @petersocko9135 Před 4 lety +2

      @@MrDeathShotz me too i listen to at least 1 uzi song everyday

    • @14kjonathan83
      @14kjonathan83 Před 3 lety +1

      Kodak really doesn’t mumble it’s his accent people don’t understand but since I’m from Florida I can tell you exactly what he said Kodak is pretty lyrical just look at his lyrics

    • @The_Backman
      @The_Backman Před 3 lety +2

      @@14kjonathan83 I got family from Florida and can back up what you say man. Ppl don't know shit🙏💯

    • @14kjonathan83
      @14kjonathan83 Před 3 lety +1

      @@The_Backman fax man, respect how kind you are 🎯

  • @gyokko-glo
    @gyokko-glo Před 3 lety +12

    2016 was like the 2nd wave of mumble rap cause we had Lil B, Young thug, gucci mane, and chief keef before them.

    • @sskooda
      @sskooda Před 3 lety

      💯💯💯

    • @malcolmxpanther
      @malcolmxpanther Před 2 lety +5

      Lil Wayne isn’t a mumble rapper lol

    • @reggielaco2468
      @reggielaco2468 Před 2 lety +1

      That just how chief keef rap that set him apart from all the other rappers you can tell they trying to mumble but it was just slow and natural for keef.

    • @xprtbillyun
      @xprtbillyun Před 2 lety

      Lil Wayne has never

    • @emykumbalek2330
      @emykumbalek2330 Před 2 lety

      Me and my drank by lil wayne ... my dad use to say all he did was mumble back in 2008 he definitely created that shit ...auto ... the drug raps ...... me and my drank ... I feel like like dying ...

  • @yourfriendlyneighbourhoodvue

    I called it years ago. Mumble rap is like disco except that producers won’t sample most songs lol. In terms of XXL thing you can’t leave G Herbo and Dave East lyricism out of the equation. But in general, to get to the tier in which Nas, Rakim occupy, it takes a transcendent or a couple transcendent albums to be up there with those two.

  • @marcroberts5251
    @marcroberts5251 Před 4 lety +21

    Rap/Hip-hop is SUPPOSED to be ever changing, there's something for everybody.

  • @ugmcfj
    @ugmcfj Před 4 lety +100

    I don’t understand the point of this video. All the artists mentioned are all still extremely relevant. “Mumble Rap” was never even a genre it was just some label that old heads used to shit on new-gen rappers.

    • @camquest1
      @camquest1 Před 4 lety

      💯💯🤝🤝🤝 I agree w everything you just said

    • @revengeofthesith.
      @revengeofthesith. Před 4 lety

      Facts

    • @cyrusj9625
      @cyrusj9625 Před 4 lety +21

      i think the word ‘mumble rap’ was meant to mean the low skill rappers. or rappers who don’t have much substance to their music and just mainly rely on beats as they have no skill or abilities. i wouldn’t consider uzi a mumble rapper cuz we can understand what he’s actually saying. 21 savage used to mumble a lot in his music but now he has improved and has a lot of substance in his music, future idk about him but i don’t fw his mysic

    • @camquest1
      @camquest1 Před 4 lety +13

      cyrus J what does that even mean? 90% of rappers “have substance”. Explain to me how a rapper in the 80s going “hip hop hoppity uh hippity” and a rapper in the 90s talking about killing ppl/fucking bitches is any better or more meaningful than what ppl make today. You barely listen to rap I can tell

    • @LosHomiesDre
      @LosHomiesDre Před 4 lety +2

      camquest1 that was When hip hop first started lmao And Clubs era where hip hop first came out in the late 70’s and early 80’s But that’s not the modern Old head that’s from the late 80’s and the Whole 90’s where Lyrics where at its Peak and higher production

  • @foosdontcry
    @foosdontcry Před 3 lety +5

    Hated it when it first came out, but now I listen to these artists whose music aged quickly and badly and think like "damn where did the time go?".. I mean it's still trash but it's also a guilty pleasure for me now, crazy to believe it was 5 years ago this was poppin, that's half a decade now

  • @popedonking
    @popedonking Před 2 lety +5

    The essence of Hip Hop can't be destroyed. Some of us "old heads" remember the hell we went through get rap accepted as a skilled art form, so the narrative that it was ok not to have skills will never sit well. Mumble rap was just a way for A&R's to be lazy and feed off of young artists. Only genre to have this issue is rap. Today I notice songs that are clearly RnB (people are literally holding notes) being classified as rap. I had a flashback to early 90's when the Grammy's would put rap in an RnB category. Again, the only genre to have this issue is black music.

  • @TKOTDtvMusic
    @TKOTDtvMusic Před 4 lety +328

    More like "how the term mumble rap lost it's cool" if Lil Baby and Roddy would've blew up in 2016 they wouldve def been called "mumble rappers" by the annoying old heads. Them two killing the game right now

    • @socialmediakilledthemc1462
      @socialmediakilledthemc1462 Před 4 lety +41

      They still wack tho..

    • @Christian-eq6pq
      @Christian-eq6pq Před 4 lety +94

      Social Media Killed The MC Even you don’t believe Roddy is wack. Just because someone isn’t rapping like Lupe Fiasco or Nas doesn’t mean they’re bad

    • @stann.3408
      @stann.3408 Před 4 lety +19

      They are far from mumble rap wtf are you talking about lmaoo..
      Listen to Lil Baby.. then Carti, they are different

    • @socialmediakilledthemc1462
      @socialmediakilledthemc1462 Před 4 lety +24

      @@Christian-eq6pq Too me he's wack because they lack creativity & substance... He will be gone sooner than later & others will replace him. That will never happen with ones like NAS & Lupe Fiasco.

    • @socialmediakilledthemc1462
      @socialmediakilledthemc1462 Před 4 lety +13

      @@stann.3408 I won't listen to a grown man calling himself a baby because he's wack...I didn't say he does mumble rap...his just trash doing what he do.

  • @justbranden3578
    @justbranden3578 Před 4 lety +101

    I’m 29 and came up on pac, biggie, snoop, DMX, and bone thugs. Jayz is my favorite artist. But I’m not with knocking the young artists or downplaying their hard work or talent. Shit anything that allows them to make it out the hood and feed their families is straight with me. Can’t believe people mad at that lol. Let’s stop acting like vanilla ice, Mc Hammer , and uncle Luke and them didn’t exist in the “golden era” of rap lol:

    • @bigkev9539
      @bigkev9539 Před 4 lety +13

      *True, but you never hear Vanilla Ice, Mc Hammer, or Uncle Luke being praised as "the greatest".*

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 Před 4 lety +6

      @@bigkev9539
      Or Mase, Diddy (Puff Daddy), Master P, Silkk The Shocker, Ja Rule, etc.

    • @ExeErdna
      @ExeErdna Před 3 lety +3

      @Luke Nobody actively bumped Mase tho it's like he ends up on maybe a song or two yet MASE by himself? Hell nah. I remember people dogging Master P and Ja Rule. We Tolerated Ja because Ashanti was gonna murder her part of the track.

    • @tynew8650
      @tynew8650 Před 3 lety

      @@bigkev9539 you did by their city or state

    • @user-ke3sp6kl1i
      @user-ke3sp6kl1i Před 2 lety

      @@bigkev9539 yeah but nobody was calling lil pump, 6ix9ine, ugly god the greatest either.
      Clearly the quote on quote “mumble rapper” like carti, future, thugger, 21, uzi are still relevant as they are actually good

  • @Indygenous
    @Indygenous Před 4 lety +4

    It was never cool to be begin with.

  • @benjaminturpin2749
    @benjaminturpin2749 Před 2 lety +8

    Mumble rap will always hold a special spot in my heart. I'm 25 and still am not tired of it. And I've been a fan since 2016. It defines my young adult hood because it's all you would and still hear on the radio. I like any music that sounds good as a whole

  • @tylerclarke5580
    @tylerclarke5580 Před 4 lety +72

    Another thing is hip hop needs new beats, most beats just sound the same now and these producers need to switch it up

    • @dwaynejpeterkin
      @dwaynejpeterkin Před 4 lety +6

      Do something about it

    • @koena4lyf
      @koena4lyf Před 4 lety +6

      Gunna kinda broke that cycle with WUNNA, but it has to fit your style like how the beats fitted Gunna's rap flow and melodies

    • @finbar5421
      @finbar5421 Před 4 lety +7

      @@user-ek2uf7yj5r pop smoke will be seen as insanely ahead of his time

    • @aciredunn4604
      @aciredunn4604 Před 4 lety +1

      Listen to different producers lol

    • @Rams1002KDKiller
      @Rams1002KDKiller Před 4 lety +2

      Well, then actually go and look for music aside from mainstream trap. Production and experimentation with sounds is at all time levels right now. I recommend Knxwledge's "1988" and Slauson Malone's "A Quiet Farewell" as two prime examples of all time great production work from the last year and a half.

  • @CYCYonWIFi
    @CYCYonWIFi Před 4 lety +115

    This was obvious I'm surprised it lasted this long a new wave will come but real rap never will b a fad. And rainbow rap will have a spot in the culture too Hip Hop is the best man

    • @yasha42oth
      @yasha42oth Před 4 lety +18

      It was nice to finally read a positive comment. New stuff wasn't terrible imo, I enjoyed a ton of music and it has its place as every type does in Hip Hop.

    • @FeltonHM
      @FeltonHM Před 4 lety +5

      well all the new rappers coming up are mostly melodic auto tune trap rappers. Not saying it's a bad thing i fuck with that type of music but "traditional" lyrical rap is kinda fading away.

    • @dntwasteit8547
      @dntwasteit8547 Před 4 lety +1

      F H M nah Griselda and Roc Marciano made it cool to actually rap again

    • @AikiraBeats
      @AikiraBeats Před 4 lety +1

      Right by 2018 I was glad it stopped cause it was going on for way too long

    • @13thera21
      @13thera21 Před 4 lety +1

      @@FeltonHM lyrical rap is still relevant just look at the rise of Dreamville. Its just that lyrical rap needs to learn to evolve too, just like melodic and mumble rap did.

  • @jaybronjames9680
    @jaybronjames9680 Před 2 lety +4

    Mumble rap is alive n well 😭

  • @Hotmonkeylovin
    @Hotmonkeylovin Před 4 lety +5

    RE: How Mumble Rap Loss Its Cool
    When was it ever cool?

  • @xavarrowww6
    @xavarrowww6 Před 4 lety +18

    people miss the hype wavy 2016 - 2017 carti , uzi , uno , mexikodro , fauni , d savage.

    • @wanja-
      @wanja- Před 3 lety

      oliver

    • @DaRealYungRay
      @DaRealYungRay Před 3 lety

      back in 2013 i had NO IDEA that rap would sound like that in 2016/17

  • @mfasiscrackbeats3543
    @mfasiscrackbeats3543 Před 4 lety +20

    who believes it’s possible to still do ‘mumble rap’ and still be creative, tell a good story and and be clear with ill vocabulary? out the whole lot I’d say Curry and 21 are the two closest there.

  • @johnboy898
    @johnboy898 Před 4 lety +24

    That cypher is absolutely iconic tho regardless of its lack of lyricism in part. That XXL class in whole was basically the best for what XXL Freshman List stands for which is the future of rap which is near everyone on that list has help up to

  • @KingSag89
    @KingSag89 Před 3 lety +3

    All I can say is Coleworld tried to tell them boys. KOD was letting a whole generation know the path they were headed for.

  • @urmomisurdad5422
    @urmomisurdad5422 Před 4 lety +8

    God, you guys make 2016 sound like 1916

  • @nickcooper4265
    @nickcooper4265 Před 4 lety +15

    Hip hop is about being different. So if everyone is saying do it this way or that way , it’s just going to make kids do the complete opposite

    • @zacker5109
      @zacker5109 Před 4 lety +5

      Who said hip-hop is about being different when most of current hip-hop artists sound same🤷

    • @vlowdadon
      @vlowdadon Před 3 lety +3

      Because it's not about being different. It's about being original. Well it used to be any.

    • @1m2a3t4t5
      @1m2a3t4t5 Před 3 lety

      @@zacker5109 current? says who? maybe the guys who were heavily influenced by thug or sum. But what you said just comes across as a cliche trope

  • @ryanjackson7387
    @ryanjackson7387 Před 4 lety +3

    Good. I've been waiting for this momment to happen since it started.

  • @JBurroughsMusic
    @JBurroughsMusic Před 3 lety +27

    When It lost it's cool?? When was mumble rap ever cool?? It was the doorway to dumbing down real talent and lyricism in HIPHOP. Mumble rap gave an excuse to be lazy and not think, when it came to story telling and real creativity in rhyming. I never thought mumble rap was cool. Put most of them in a real rap battle and they'd ball up in a corner like babies.

  • @Crazelord91
    @Crazelord91 Před 4 lety +59

    Thank God, one of the worst things to happen to rap imo. I'm not an old head where I can't get into new forms of rap, some of the best hip hop ever made is happening now, but mumble rap was a huge regression for the genre

    • @dwaynejpeterkin
      @dwaynejpeterkin Před 4 lety +5

      Worse than ringtone rap 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @Crazelord91
      @Crazelord91 Před 4 lety +19

      @@dwaynejpeterkin Maybe 😂. At least ring tone rap had some fyre choruses. But there have been many regressive rap genres through the decades

    • @blab3481
      @blab3481 Před 4 lety

      just curious. Which new albums do you consider some of the best hip hop ever made. Any suggestions?

    • @dwaynejpeterkin
      @dwaynejpeterkin Před 4 lety +3

      @@Crazelord91 laffy taffy bot lyrical beither is pop lock it drop it 🤔🤔🤔if anything that era worse than todays era just as bad as the auto tune era

    • @treefiddytwoo
      @treefiddytwoo Před 4 lety +1

      Blab34 are you legitimately asking or being spiteful? because they do exist. just not gonna give a list out of pettiness

  • @romanhurst7
    @romanhurst7 Před 4 lety +123

    This man said “mumble rap” in 2020

    • @magicvampirelver1321
      @magicvampirelver1321 Před 4 lety +7

      So... it is mumble... mumble ain't that old few years or something it came out lol

    • @romanhurst7
      @romanhurst7 Před 4 lety +31

      magicVAMPIRE løver13 the term is just something negative and it’s annoying

    • @dende_ult714
      @dende_ult714 Před 4 lety +16

      @@romanhurst7 and makes no sense

    • @lilmoca784
      @lilmoca784 Před 4 lety +4

      @@romanhurst7 facts

    • @romanhurst7
      @romanhurst7 Před 4 lety +17

      It’s just a term oldheads use to put trap in a negative connotation

  • @idkiguess69
    @idkiguess69 Před 4 lety +3

    I’d hope as a rap fan would never say Kodak Uzi or 21 are “ mumble rappers”. If you think they are you don’t listen to them. Simple.

    • @Razor_Gaming
      @Razor_Gaming Před 4 lety

      I listen to all 3 of them and I believe kodak is a mumble rapper but not 21 or uzi

  • @slendji3940
    @slendji3940 Před 2 lety +2

    As a person who heavily enjoys mumble rap/soundcloud wave, lyrical rap, melodic rap, storytelling rap, trap, pretty much everything hip hop i can definitely understand at first why people may think its repetitive and stupid . Its like showing a hard rock fan grindcore for the first time and expecting them to like it right away. It takes time. Its how i was at first, but then that shit grew on me heavy, it feels almost intoxicating to listen to. You also have to be open minded, and remember theres great music and shitty music from every genre out there. Im not totally sure if mumble rap is yet completely on its way out but its definitely not as popular as it used to be, though i still enjoy it so who knows 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @yngyln748
    @yngyln748 Před 4 lety +10

    I swear to god this video is made every single year

  • @sky14shonmosley
    @sky14shonmosley Před 4 lety +78

    “Except Denzel” bruh don’t disrespect lil herb like that he is not a mumble rapper

    • @sky14shonmosley
      @sky14shonmosley Před 4 lety +17

      1-800-Wavy you like 69 huh

    • @viktorvaughn8192
      @viktorvaughn8192 Před 4 lety +2

      Neither is uzi

    • @1k_okt
      @1k_okt Před 4 lety +5

      skyshon mosley 😂 right like wtf.. Herb is still hard to this day!

    • @railroadforest30
      @railroadforest30 Před 4 lety

      the_only gamerlmao facts

    • @OGKWAM
      @OGKWAM Před 4 lety +2

      “G Herbo you know me I guess ima freshman now but I been a OGGG”

  • @Drow6-y9r
    @Drow6-y9r Před 4 lety +2

    Hey look at 21 he was a hard mumble rapper. Now he is a r&b singer who did a song with Alicia keys.

    • @liltree8382
      @liltree8382 Před 4 lety

      Andre S. Lmfaooo😂are you serious

  • @mlodypayne348
    @mlodypayne348 Před 4 lety +5

    you can't lose something you never had

  • @bagchasermt7953
    @bagchasermt7953 Před 4 lety +25

    Kodak an 21 not mumble rappers y’all jus ain never took a real listen💯 only real the gon relate to dem

    • @bagchasermt7953
      @bagchasermt7953 Před 4 lety +1

      Zeno Kyriakides Nbs he was a demon before the drugs got to him🤦‍♂️

  • @Szylepiel
    @Szylepiel Před 4 lety +6

    Last year was the nail to the coffin to mumble rap's being cool. It's still going, but slowly fading away

  • @jrcuhhhhhh1621
    @jrcuhhhhhh1621 Před 2 lety +2

    half of these rappers are still very big and some of the most popular rappers till this day

  • @Mr.Bendoverr
    @Mr.Bendoverr Před 2 lety +2

    Im kinda surprised you didn't mention future more. He kinda was the OG mumble rapper back in the day. He also indirectly helped panda get famous as people thought it was future who did it and we all know how big Panda was back in 2016-17.

  • @DeluxeDeath
    @DeluxeDeath Před 4 lety +6

    Imo there was never any genre called mumble rap and articles have been written abt that term being false. It’s just a derogatory term to encompass all modern rap that is disliked by those older generations that stopped being able to digest, process, & understand new sounds. Some music is just for the moment.

    • @DeluxeDeath
      @DeluxeDeath Před 2 lety

      @General Butt Naked why would u be listening to garbage music tho? Wierd

  • @bigl2221
    @bigl2221 Před 4 lety +6

    Can't lose something you never had.

  • @xseal6.
    @xseal6. Před 2 lety +4

    carti still poppin

  • @ishtarweak623
    @ishtarweak623 Před 3 lety +3

    you can be melodic and still be lyrical.

  • @brianb3854
    @brianb3854 Před 4 lety +75

    Can’t talk about mumble rap without talking about Keef and Capo

    • @bennyches3028
      @bennyches3028 Před 4 lety +2

      Already know

    • @xxXFlaggXxx
      @xxXFlaggXxx Před 4 lety +12

      Them two was beyond mumble rap...they was gargle rap

    • @TellHerNothing
      @TellHerNothing Před 4 lety +1

      yeah he said future smh

    • @legendary2553
      @legendary2553 Před 4 lety +7

      emotionless ? Future was mumble rapping before the Keef tho and he popularized it

    • @legendary2553
      @legendary2553 Před 4 lety +21

      Keef wasn’t a mumble rapper... u can literally hear everything he says. Mumble rapping is when the words are slurred and hard to enunciate.

  • @tylito4764
    @tylito4764 Před 4 lety +5

    This is why Starlito, CyHi the Prince, J Cole etc will always feel right, it's authentic

    • @13thera21
      @13thera21 Před 4 lety +2

      IDK if a J Cole type rapper can get big in the current rap game, that lyrical/conscious lane seems to have stopped producing new big artists.

  • @inkognito3145
    @inkognito3145 Před 2 lety +4

    I never understood why people complain about bad hip hop. Just don’t listen to it. And it’s not like hip hop in the 90s was better it’s just that the good stuff survives the test of time. There where plenty of bad mcs back in the day to but nobody hears them anymore. Same way nobody is gonna bad music from today in 30 years. Let time prove what was good

  • @adityasanthosh7697
    @adityasanthosh7697 Před 4 lety +2

    I m not a hardcore fan but I think after the Kamikaze album, although people criticized Eminem for being childish and not acknowledging the 'evolution of rap', people started to think that mumble rap is not a part of the evolution of rap. I dont think Eminem should get all the credit but he thankfully initiated a large scale criticism 🙏

  • @raff6147
    @raff6147 Před 4 lety +71

    More relative is “How Trap Is Falling Off”

    • @dwaynejpeterkin
      @dwaynejpeterkin Před 4 lety +38

      Music evolves every few years trap will not be around forever like gangsta rap

    • @herewegoagain425
      @herewegoagain425 Před 4 lety +60

      Gangster rap never died. It just got better. Trap and drill music are sub-genres of it

    • @slapwoodsnhenny
      @slapwoodsnhenny Před 4 lety +5

      Aron Janvier exactly

    • @kingcash48
      @kingcash48 Před 4 lety +8

      Trap music will die because the main stream Trap rappers are not really trappers

    • @raff6147
      @raff6147 Před 4 lety +5

      kingcash it also has become a money farm. They don’t take time into making good music. They put so many songs on their album just to make more money and monetize everything. That is also shown in the recent deluxe trend. Now albums are 25+ songs.

  • @juliettest.laclaire8931
    @juliettest.laclaire8931 Před 4 lety +3

    I think the best way to look at it is like post punk, it doesn’t mean punk is over it just means we have new shit, like how The Cure and The Kennedy’s existed side by side you’re gonna have Uzi and Carti existing beside your JIDs and Earthgangs, and just like you had Joy Division between hardcore and post punk you’ll have people like ski mask existing between mumble rap and lyrical/conscious

    • @kylesantos8190
      @kylesantos8190 Před 4 lety

      Fam you just compared Kennedys and The Cure with those lil niggas. What's wrong with u fam 😂😂😂😂

    • @juliettest.laclaire8931
      @juliettest.laclaire8931 Před 4 lety +1

      Kyle Santos I think that every artist I mentioned deserve the same amount of respect. I think they’re all equally creative and innovative and I think they’re all pioneers in their respective fields. And they’re all punk as fuck

    • @TimezOfInfamy
      @TimezOfInfamy Před 4 lety +1

      @@kylesantos8190 what he's saying is that they're just sub genres just like it was various sub genres of punk some may like it some not of course

  • @LuhXXofficial
    @LuhXXofficial Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm still a fan of SoundCloud rap,it influences a lot of my sounds and it's pretty nostalgic.

  • @cityofgarlic4088
    @cityofgarlic4088 Před 4 lety +5

    Mumble Rap= Face tattoos, skirts, dresses, man bags, dreadlocks, dope beats and whatever The Record Label says

  • @villavelli
    @villavelli Před 4 lety +3

    I was never mad at mumble rap. It was popular for a reason. You wanna listen to songs about the earth and stars and lyrical acribatics do that. There’s a rap style for every mood or type of person.

  • @TheNaz1996
    @TheNaz1996 Před 4 lety +10

    I remember when that cypher came out and I genuinely thought what the hell is this “bs” ... I saw negative reaction videos across the internet thinking the same thing. That’s where my distaste for “mumble rap” probably begun. Then from there over the next course of the year I saw interviews from the likes of Lil Uzi & Yachty on different radio stations etc building up in my eyes an image an definition of the “new era”.

    • @AikiraBeats
      @AikiraBeats Před 4 lety +2

      Yeah that cypher was just terrible honestly Denzel is the only one that saved it

    • @happ3camp3r
      @happ3camp3r Před 4 lety +1

      cringe

  • @TIOLIOfficial
    @TIOLIOfficial Před rokem +2

    You can't lose something you never had...

  • @moshimoshi8283
    @moshimoshi8283 Před 3 lety +3

    I’d say the mumble rap era hasn’t come close to ending yet. Rappers with mumbly/melodic type flows like Lil Baby and Gunna are at the top of the game right now

    • @DonJulio1942
      @DonJulio1942 Před 2 lety +1

      Tbh Lil baby ain’t a mumble rapper considering I can comprehend his lyrics

  • @beebeebooboo634
    @beebeebooboo634 Před 4 lety +11

    I genuinely love your videos. Keep up the good work❤️🙌🏻

  • @anonymous-37
    @anonymous-37 Před 4 lety +13

    None of the rappers in the thumbnail (other than Carti (he doesn’t speak English)) are ‘mumble rappers’

    • @llc8508
      @llc8508 Před 4 lety +2

      Lol because you mumble right along with them

    • @gore1473
      @gore1473 Před 4 lety

      Lol I still bump carti hard tho

    • @Bubs-_-
      @Bubs-_- Před 4 lety

      @@gore1473 just yesterday I went back and visited magnolia

    • @gore1473
      @gore1473 Před 4 lety

      OGPhoenix I hate that song but I like all his albums

    • @Bubs-_-
      @Bubs-_- Před 4 lety

      @@gore1473 I like it because it contains a WiFi password and I can milly rock. But I don't know anyone else who can

  • @AndyDosMil
    @AndyDosMil Před 4 lety +13

    I still don’t get why having better lyrics has to make a song good. If it sounds good, it sounds good.

    • @weekendwarrior5732
      @weekendwarrior5732 Před 4 lety

      It dont. Kanyes bound 2 is an example

    • @trapmuzik6708
      @trapmuzik6708 Před 4 lety

      Bc NYC have the best lyricist so they want people to judge rap off lyrics so their music scene will start popping again

    • @magloresaleh3992
      @magloresaleh3992 Před 3 lety

      That’s hip hop Kid , google that !!!!

  • @djdigital3806
    @djdigital3806 Před 4 lety +2

    56 year old here. Just found
    out what "Mumble Rap" is.
    Now I'm cool😎
    Subscribed ☑️