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  • @ElectricWindGirlFriend
    @ElectricWindGirlFriend  Před 14 dny +140

    clarification/correction about deoxys: it's viability wasn't really low because it's bad, moreso that it's too good for OU by a lot but is worse than the other deoxys forms (mostly deoxys attack). because of this it never saw real viability, Deoxys inhabited a zone where it could never get real usage.

    • @hussainzaidi6063
      @hussainzaidi6063 Před 14 dny +8

      dj khaled suffering from success

    • @blazie42069
      @blazie42069 Před 13 dny

      Essentially the gen 9 Lugia experience where being able to change its type with that bulk keeps it from getting serious consideration for an OU test but being pretty much unviable because it just kinda sucks in Ubers UU and Ubers
      Hope we can free Lugia next gen when tera is gone

    • @navi5661
      @navi5661 Před 9 dny

      It really needs a signature move or something! Ultimately its closest to Deoxys-Attack in stat distribution, but it only gets minimal additions to its defense to make up for the smaller attack stat. Even if you wanted the extra bulk, Deoxys isn't surviving anything that Deoxys Attack wouldn't, making it useless to bring along. For years Phione was a worse Manaphy, but now it has Take Heart and miraculously has a whole identity of its own
      Also omg can you imagine being a kid with Deoxys and having a friend who has Deoxys Attack and you just have no idea why your friend's Deoxys is better than yours in every way

  • @Durex_der_Undurchdringliche
    @Durex_der_Undurchdringliche Před 14 dny +720

    The 5th Deoxys form will be Deoxys-Accuracy locked behind a paid dlc in the next gen 3 remakes.

    • @sammcguire3798
      @sammcguire3798 Před 14 dny +164

      Deoxys Evasion😭

    • @benwetzler6912
      @benwetzler6912 Před 14 dny +129

      Deoxys HP (blissey users in shambles)

    • @houraisheperd9721
      @houraisheperd9721 Před 14 dny +17

      Guzzlord 2.

    • @dianeledrepaul5488
      @dianeledrepaul5488 Před 14 dny +50

      Deoxys crit (all its moves crit including healing moves like recover that recover more)

    • @Arshield285
      @Arshield285 Před 14 dny +39

      Eternamax deoxys, 255 in all base stats, locked behind a 100$ pay wall, the only mon that can break through it it's mega-eternal Rayquaza XY, who only can be captured after buying the two games + DLC and using an event code.

  • @memesupreme5502
    @memesupreme5502 Před 14 dny +348

    One hit wonders? You mean sheer cold?

    • @faIIen_yt
      @faIIen_yt Před 14 dny +5

      💀💀💀

    • @tangerinepaint3643
      @tangerinepaint3643 Před 14 dny +8

      What about Fissure?

    • @txtp
      @txtp Před 14 dny +6

      Guillotine and Horn Drill are sitting crying in the corner

  • @thisrandomdude2880
    @thisrandomdude2880 Před 14 dny +216

    Deoxys hasn't been the same since Rayquaza obliterated it in the 7th movie

  • @SuperErinMan
    @SuperErinMan Před 14 dny +97

    I'm of the mindset that Shedinja should be the only true one-hit-wonder, since it always dies in... well, you get it.

  • @KelKav
    @KelKav Před 14 dny +158

    I’d argue that base deoxys wasn’t outshined as a mix of all three, but rather was only outshined by attack form. Base deoxys is just a slightly weaker attack deoxys that still dies to any single hit in the game except maybe a non stab Mach punch.

  • @axolofa
    @axolofa Před 14 dny +96

    They should give Parasect Wonder Guard. As a treat.

    • @Orewastaken
      @Orewastaken Před 11 dny +1

      Still dies from 1/3rd of the type chart lmfao

    • @leaDR356
      @leaDR356 Před 8 dny +1

      Doesnt matter, it is still a god against 2/3 pokemons​@@Orewastaken

  • @THE_Marisa_Fumo
    @THE_Marisa_Fumo Před 14 dny +105

    I can't imagine living in a world where Parasect takes over Amoonguss' role in VGC

    • @june9914
      @june9914 Před 14 dny +17

      I can. Try harder

    • @KLIXORthe
      @KLIXORthe Před 14 dny +15

      Bug type mat block with prioirity. New bug type weather that doubles the speed of bug types and halves all rock type damage. New 80bp bug type fake-out. Damp gets buffed to add water to the users defensive typing. Kanto/Jhoto remake where all the neglected pokemon get new, more optimized stat spreads and higher BSTs. (like Flareon, Parasect, and Ledian)

    • @VegaPhil
      @VegaPhil Před 14 dny

      If it’s not in gen 10 and parasect is then it’s pretty easy to

  • @xruffel
    @xruffel Před 14 dny +62

    Parasect my beloved… I don’t care if you’re outshined by another shroom, you are always the OG to me ^w^

  • @OnyxOblivion
    @OnyxOblivion Před 14 dny +22

    I swear to god if that Gloom team ends up being Wolfey making a video...

  • @LoMaLouis
    @LoMaLouis Před 14 dny +71

    Every mon with spore is good, I have a list of every single one printed out next to my screen when Im playing VGC just in case I need it

    • @nikkapa
      @nikkapa Před 14 dny +34

      >looks at the paper
      >ir's just a dartboard with a drawing of amoonguss

    • @usernametaken017
      @usernametaken017 Před 14 dny +1

      ​@@nikkapadon't forget brute bonnet

  • @ElectricWindGirlFriend
    @ElectricWindGirlFriend  Před 14 dny +79

    btw if anyone can find an instance of these mons being good in high tiers anywhere else let me know! The closest i could find is deoxys being a usable mon in DPP Ubers as a lead but it was still really bad.

    • @ultimaabyssal2484
      @ultimaabyssal2484 Před 14 dny +6

      No mention of Ariados? Wasn't it stupid good in DPP Ubers as a lead against Darkrai due to Insomnia?

    • @ElectricWindGirlFriend
      @ElectricWindGirlFriend  Před 14 dny +15

      @@ultimaabyssal2484 not very good, but it does have a weird role in the tier. it's not even close to solid tho so i didn't bring it up

    • @aner9937
      @aner9937 Před 14 dny +6

      wasn't parasect used in gen4 ubers due to countering kyogre like nothing could ? And deoxys normal had a very small niche over deoxys atk in gen 7 ubers being that with enough invest and a ghost resist berry, he could revenge kill marshadow while remaining quite threatening overall

    • @ElectricWindGirlFriend
      @ElectricWindGirlFriend  Před 14 dny +8

      @@aner9937 these are about on the same level as the ariados thing so it’s not something I felt took away their status as one hit wonders. They’re super cool niches to have tho

  • @banditrests
    @banditrests Před 14 dny +19

    My favorite is Pyroar was good for like two weeks in VGC 2014, got 2nd, 16th, then second again at UK and German nationals, and then no one ever used it again ever.

    • @ElectricWindGirlFriend
      @ElectricWindGirlFriend  Před 14 dny +3

      Ooh I’ve never heard of that, what did it do?

    • @banditrests
      @banditrests Před 14 dny +11

      @@ElectricWindGirlFriendit was a regional dex format dominated by fairy types and mega Gengar was really nasty so resisting fairy and being immune to ghost was decently useful on a Pokémon with useable stats. For example it had really good defensive synergy with lucario. Also it had moxie and entrainment and is slightly faster than garchomp so it could give it moxie before it attacked. Really niche, context dependent value, but hey, value.

    • @banditrests
      @banditrests Před 14 dny +7

      @@ElectricWindGirlFriend Also after reading an old team report, it resisted steel attackers like mega mawhile and agislash while threatening OHKOs with overheat, not being hit by chandalure as well as garchomp with HP ice. Semi related, but it had a weird niche for a single day in Gen 9 OU where it was one of two Pokémon along with grafaiai that resisted flutter mane’s STABs, although it still wasn’t really useful. I can’t find any evidence of Rivalry shenanigans being used but theoretically you could do something gen 5 haxorus did to take advantage of gender locked Pokémon like the genies.

  • @dvdv4270
    @dvdv4270 Před 14 dny +15

    Deoxys is that it’s mostly outclassed by Deoxys attack but the funny thing is that it has a small niche(a pretty bad one) in gen 6 that uses the Chilan Berry(Normal resist berry(since normal attack is never super effective it will always activate when being hit by a normal attack)) to check survive Mega Kanghaskan fake out or EKiller Arceus(something deoxys attack can’t do due to its even worse bulk)

  • @rycftxdhfsdyftgdxuuhgjfgzx1925

    Can't believe EWGF never mentioned the amazing Ubers set of Chilian Berry Deoxys that barely survives arceus extreme speed to smack it back with I think superpower

  • @plaza3825
    @plaza3825 Před 14 dny +8

    Imagine if Parasect lost it's bug type after evolving because the mushroom is too in control. Same move pool but no 4x weaknesses. I wonder how much more viable it'd be

  • @geossi
    @geossi Před 14 dny +7

    Kinda weird to say regular deoxys is the lovechild of all three forms when it's just a nerfed deoxys-a and has stats that look nothing like deoxys-d or deoxys-s

    • @ElectricWindGirlFriend
      @ElectricWindGirlFriend  Před 14 dny +2

      Atp I’d probs say between Deo-A and Deo-S. Not as strong as attack but bulkier, but also not as fast as speed

    • @usernametaken017
      @usernametaken017 Před 14 dny +4

      ​@@ElectricWindGirlFriendIt's more like deoxis-a but instead of paper-thin defenses it's got cardboard-thin defenses

  • @webbowser8834
    @webbowser8834 Před 14 dny +6

    Deo-N is less of a mishmash of the different Deo forms and more of a "Deo-A-Lite" and that right there is the fundamental flaw of Deo-N. It actually has worse defenses than Deo-S, who ironically has arguably the most well-rounded stats of all the Deo forms (Deo-D also makes an argument for this title). The difference between Deo-A's 50/20/20 defenses and Deo-N's 50/50/50 defenses is so minute in the context of ubers that it borders on parody, and given they share the same speed stat there really was very little Deo-N could even theoretically attempt doing that wasn't done as well or better than Deo-A. However, as it turns out Deo-A-Lite is still in the upper echelons of Pokemon strength, as Deo-A is simply one of the strongest mons in the entire series and being a nerfed version of that is still pretty darn good. As proof, for a brief moment in early gen 6, Deo-N along with a bunch of other ubers such as Blazekin were dropped into OU only to be quick banned a short time later (we're talking maybe a week or two, tops). Pretty much any time Deo-N is allowed to exist in a separate tier from Deo-A, it will then proceed to immediately fill the same role Deo-A would have (which in Gen 6 meant breaking OU in half with its noodly appendages).

    • @ElectricWindGirlFriend
      @ElectricWindGirlFriend  Před 14 dny +1

      Yeah after thinking about it more it’s a worse deo-a with some traits of deo-s. 100% agree.

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 Před 14 dny +4

      @@ElectricWindGirlFriend Finding out that Deo-S wasn't made of tissue paper might have been one of my biggest surprises in competitive mons.

  • @Arshield285
    @Arshield285 Před 14 dny +20

    I absolute adore any case where an awful pokemon has a viable niche in higher tiers just because it's a weirdly effective check to a huge meta pick that defines that tier, best examples are from gen 4 Ubers.
    Parasect: Has dry skin, so can switch into choiced kyogre's water moves and wall/threaten spore.
    Shedinja: 1 hp and dies from any super effective hit or any kind of passive damage, yet it walls kyogre like a champion.
    Ariados: Probably the worst early bug type ever, yet can put Darkrai into uncomfortable 50/50 (Let's be real, there is never a real reason for
    Darkrai to take the risk) and 1 vs 1 Deoxys speed, two of the most meta defining mons in ubers.
    Recent discovery, Probopass has never seen any competitive viability in the high tiers, but with the recent addition of body press along magnet pull it becomes a huge kingambit counter, a mon that is on every team in this generation.

    • @ardvark3131
      @ardvark3131 Před 13 dny

      Haven't played ou in a whole but doesn't kingambit usually run a fighting attack? This means u need to Tera ur dude to give him a chance to beat gambit, and since bro is so popular that means ur tera's already decided most games which kinda blows

    • @cross-layered8538
      @cross-layered8538 Před 13 dny +1

      @@ardvark3131the most common set for kingambit is sd, kowtow, sucker, and iron head, with low kick being optional to counter opposing kingambit

    • @ardvark3131
      @ardvark3131 Před 13 dny

      @@cross-layered8538 real. Probopass still seems kinda risky but ig it's workable if u think u can sus out those running low kick

    • @ardvark3131
      @ardvark3131 Před 13 dny

      @@cross-layered8538 real

    • @pottern2296
      @pottern2296 Před 12 dny

      You forgot about ledian

  • @piratebear3126
    @piratebear3126 Před 14 dny +5

    I’m actually a fan of Dewgong and found it awesome when it was tearing up ladder with Gloom. Gen 9 has been kind to a lot of my favorites surprisingly.

  • @sylflareon8356
    @sylflareon8356 Před 14 dny +3

    parasect and deoxys being together on the thumbnail is quite the unlikely duo

  • @AliceTheToastWitch
    @AliceTheToastWitch Před 13 dny +2

    Longtime Ubers UU player here! Mewtwo is definitely a problem for Deo-N’s viability, but if you want to just kill something quickly, Deoxys is better. Mewtwo can boost much easier and has much better bulk, so it’s better all around, but if you want a psychic nuke Deoxys is the one to use.

  • @Mewseeker
    @Mewseeker Před 14 dny +5

    Would Pachirisu qualifies here? :P

  • @craniifer
    @craniifer Před 14 dny +2

    Your photoshop skills have always been pure art, but this may have been your best video yet in that regard.

  • @Pam234
    @Pam234 Před 14 dny +6

    I will never take gen 6 RU seriously when Golbat was in it.

  • @SkorBn
    @SkorBn Před 14 dny +3

    Cant wait for regional parasect thats bug/ghost and somehow has a ghost type move that does triple damage to pokemon that is asleep (it'll have base 150 HP and ~90-100 defenses)

  • @Mr.Brothybear
    @Mr.Brothybear Před 5 dny +1

    Parasect Was Also a menace in the Hisui games

  • @SkyNinja759
    @SkyNinja759 Před 14 dny +3

    Talonflame had it's (gale) wings clipped.
    IT was cool when it lasted. A route 1 bird that had it's viability/niche. Hopefully gale wings will be reverted, but I highly doubt it.

    • @usernametaken017
      @usernametaken017 Před 14 dny +1

      A viable route one 1 bird you say? (Looks at corviknight)

    • @Bird-wz7nx
      @Bird-wz7nx Před 12 dny

      ​​@@usernametaken017
      It stopped counting as a route 1 bird when it evolved into something that, IRL would require an FDDL and a Tank Endorsement from the Department of Defense.
      Do you understand how big those things are?

  • @guanchampo
    @guanchampo Před 13 dny +1

    Fletchinder's 71 attack seems ridiculous until you remember Talonflame only has 83 attack. It's really only its speed that increases that much upon evolution from 84 to 126. And of course, its speed barely mattered with Gale wings

  • @mcknightmareb4u494
    @mcknightmareb4u494 Před 14 dny +2

    I feel that the reason Deoxys Normal is trash wasn't properly explained. It doesn't have a "jack of all trades, master of none" situation going, it's very definitively a master of offense, and it's damn good at it. With a 50/150/50/150/50/150 stat spread, it's hard not to be.
    However, Deoxys Attack has a 50/180/20/180/20/150 stat spread, meaning Deoxys Normal is strictly outclassed. They both die to pretty much everything, but Deoxys Attack deals more damage.

    • @ElectricWindGirlFriend
      @ElectricWindGirlFriend  Před 14 dny

      yeah ur right. the way i explained it was supposed to be in the context of ubers but i really didn't make myself clear on that front.

    • @mcknightmareb4u494
      @mcknightmareb4u494 Před 14 dny +1

      @@ElectricWindGirlFriend It's fine, I'm sure by this point most people know about the tragedy of Deoxys Normal. Just checking its Analyses on Smogon makes you feel bad about it.

  • @Kionum
    @Kionum Před 14 dny +12

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  • @abrawolf
    @abrawolf Před 14 dny +4

    That fucking dewgon was all over my twitter feed

  • @canaldecasta
    @canaldecasta Před 14 dny +2

    ♥️🦀 Parasect mentioned!

  • @FabsterCola
    @FabsterCola Před 13 dny

    Like someone else in the comments said Deoxys is mainly a worse version of Deoxys-Attack, it would probably have seen more useable and set apart from Attack form if it had base 100s accross the boards probably would have been OU in like gen 5/6 and then gradually dropped off from there even if Psycho Boost would be a menace to society.

  • @CBSnB2R
    @CBSnB2R Před 14 dny +2

    Not a really bad mon but i like how valuable skelidirge is in Ubers.

  • @EyeWasBored
    @EyeWasBored Před 14 dny +2

    screw productivity I gotta watch the latest EWGF about pokemon niches smaller than my will to edit

  • @hessenic6862
    @hessenic6862 Před 14 dny +16

    Fletchinder= OT Genesis
    Parasect= Silento
    Deoxys= Rich the Kid
    Gloom= Sheck Wes

    • @saltator8565
      @saltator8565 Před 13 dny

      Calling OT a one hit wonder is disrespectful

  • @ladonmccabe
    @ladonmccabe Před 14 dny +1

    Teeter dance gloom and horn drill/quick claw dewgong is the funniest shit Ive heard

  • @alucard4344
    @alucard4344 Před 14 dny +2

    Crazy how I knew about all of them even though I've never touched a Pokemon game. Gotta thank false swipe gaming for that I guess...

  • @BamaMophi
    @BamaMophi Před 13 dny

    The Gloom team ran a Muk too?!

  • @GerryRead-sl9tf
    @GerryRead-sl9tf Před 13 dny

    Game freak be like, hmmm yes this grass/bug type is too threatening, let's make it even weaker to fire with the dry skin ability

  • @FarhanH1
    @FarhanH1 Před 13 dny

    Boy do I miss Gen 6 Talonflame :(. Gen 6 was my first competitive gen and the Talonflame Greninja core was crazy fun.

  • @samuelfraysse4209
    @samuelfraysse4209 Před 14 dny

    It's one of the best things that ever happened to my goat, parasect

  • @blazie42069
    @blazie42069 Před 13 dny

    Fraxure was unironically a great pokemon in Black and White PU as it is a terrifying sweeper down there
    After BW PU it went to be good in NFE basically

  • @azuquirtle
    @azuquirtle Před 13 dny +1

    Holy shit
    Ubers UU mentioned

  • @christiancinnabars1402

    Deoxys Normal should have had properly averaged stats compared to the other specialized forms. Apart from the shared 50 HP, it could have had 110s across the board to make it less offensively focused than Deoxys Attack, but not nearly as frail. This would also make it stronger _and_ more defensive than Deoxys Speed, obviously losing out on the Speed in return. 110 Speed, 110 attacks, and 110 defenses would still make it very viable in most metas, and would let it fulfil the role of a setup sweeper better than all other forms. As it is now, it's just diet Deoxys Attack. Yeah, it has 30 more defenses, but when your defensive spread is still 50/50/50 that hardly matters in a meta where everyone is throwing around 100+ bp attacks off of 120+ base offenses.
    I feel like it's a similar case to Mespirit compared to the rest of the Lake Trio. Despite it being the "mid-ground" between the offensive sweeper Azelf and the defensive wall Uxie, it is _slower_ than Uxie and has 80 base HP compared to the other members' 75 base HP stats. Same case there: equalize its HP stat with the other members of the trio, and give it 101 across the board. It loses out on a _bit_ of offensive and defensive power, but makes it over the 100 base Speed wall by a single point. Would it have seen use at all with those stats anyways? Probably back in Gen 4 or 5, but maybe now it's too late to change it.

  • @palatonian9618
    @palatonian9618 Před 12 dny

    Good shit.

  • @smittz_
    @smittz_ Před 13 dny +1

    GLOOM WINNING YEAAAAAAAA

  • @volbla
    @volbla Před 14 dny

    I had forgotten ubers UU is a thing. I've never seen anyone talk about it or play it since its inception.

  • @arcuscotangens
    @arcuscotangens Před 14 dny +1

    The phrase "cannot be understated" really annoys me.
    It can mean two exact opposite things, so it's only useful if the audience already knows what you want to tell them.

  • @ivythay4259
    @ivythay4259 Před 12 dny

    Don't forget pre-Platinum Purugly with Hypnosis.

  • @nosh_becausem
    @nosh_becausem Před 14 dny

    We need to give Parasect Huge Power 🙏

  • @RRRR-jr1gp
    @RRRR-jr1gp Před 9 dny

    In today's episode EWGF wants to talk about the Gloom team
    tbf I also want to talk about the Gloom team that guy *needs* to get top 4 at worlds

  • @nitro5247
    @nitro5247 Před 13 dny

    Ubers UU mentioned :D

  • @Quadritzel
    @Quadritzel Před 14 dny

    here before the storm

  • @evanhewitt762
    @evanhewitt762 Před 13 dny

    i think damp should reduce fire damage so our good pal parasect can live with only One double weakness, as a treat.

  • @cunnyravu
    @cunnyravu Před 13 dny +1

    Trans rights are human rights

  • @dinoshark2491
    @dinoshark2491 Před 14 dny +1

    day 1 of asking for a powerpoint about regenerator (justice for mola)

  • @icenovice
    @icenovice Před 13 dny

    The best one-hit wonder is Flutter Mane. It's rather niche as a specially strong ghost-fairy and has only had one Generation of success!

  • @hiwrenhere
    @hiwrenhere Před 14 dny

    1:45 FIFTH SECRET THING.
    WHAT IS IT!!!! WHAT IS IT!!!!

  • @EDoyl
    @EDoyl Před 13 dny

    Deoxys-Luck coming soon

  • @tonyawad8201
    @tonyawad8201 Před 11 dny

    Cacturne Gen 3 OU before sand veil ban

  • @ttorr7474
    @ttorr7474 Před 14 dny

    Secret 5th form Deoxys Crit /:

  • @spunchbob.
    @spunchbob. Před 13 dny +1

    Bro why do your videos have a black space above now 😭

  • @GerryRead-sl9tf
    @GerryRead-sl9tf Před 13 dny

    Yo who else just forgot gloom existed and it's still not sure that it's name is gloom?

  • @piplupfan5106
    @piplupfan5106 Před 14 dny

    0:49
    Parasect ❌
    Paras seex ✅

  • @reclaimthunder9254
    @reclaimthunder9254 Před 14 dny +2

    I hope parasect rots in hell for what it did in legends arceus.

  • @goldensupmanz
    @goldensupmanz Před 14 dny

    Chimecho isn’t on this list because its always been consistently good (in zu)

  • @wii3564
    @wii3564 Před 13 dny

    MY FUCKING GOAT PARASECT LETSGO

  • @ASmarterThanAverageSeel

    2:23 I see dewgong

  • @brocksteele7475
    @brocksteele7475 Před 14 dny

    Running amok or running a Muk?

  • @lorekeeper685
    @lorekeeper685 Před 14 dny

    Shedninja

  • @MortanAMrk
    @MortanAMrk Před 13 dny

    gloom? not vileplume?

  • @shmovinnn
    @shmovinnn Před 14 dny

    hiiii

  • @toot3331
    @toot3331 Před 14 dny +2

    hi

  • @YarnYoshi637
    @YarnYoshi637 Před 13 dny

    I love deoxys

  • @maheerhuq6708
    @maheerhuq6708 Před 14 dny +5

    FREE PALESTINE

    • @hessenic6862
      @hessenic6862 Před 14 dny

      From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!!

  • @Elizabeth-by7gz
    @Elizabeth-by7gz Před 14 dny

    :)

  • @faIIen_yt
    @faIIen_yt Před 14 dny

    🥐