Top 10 MISTAKES I Made While Building My Container Home!
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- čas přidán 24. 08. 2023
- Today, I'm showing you the Top 10 Mistakes I made while building my DIY shipping container home.
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My Grandfather did drywall for 5 decades, he taught me lay a thin coat of mud, put tape over the seam, and then the trick is use a paint roller to roll the tape flat and mud in the joint. Then after it drys you can re mud or roll on your mud depending on the texture you want to have on your walls.. Also if you buy a 5 gallon of joint compound he would add about 2 oz of dawn soup to it, and mix the it. It allows the mud to lay smoother on the wall.
Super tip!!
Thanks for taking the time to share that!💪
The roller thing seems ridiculous, once you put down your first thin coat, lay the tape, then start at the top, pulling down hard and firm. Allot of that first layer of mud will squeeze out the sides so clean it up, get it back for reuse. The biggest mistake first time murders make is your mud is to dry, way to dry, add water u till it runs like pancake mix, very runny.
I have seen tapers soaking the tape in soupy mud before application. Messy af, but seemed effective. I have also seen devices that mud the tape as it comes off the roll and it applies about like modern white-out on paper. One note I will add though: mud the top of the joint a little wider. You don't want to make speed bumps. If it is wide enough, it takes a strait edge to find a bump.
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With this video you just did what a lot of other CZcamsrs will not do and that is show your mistakes. Looking at many of these other CZcamsrs you would think that the husband, wife, newborn and family pet team are master builders.
Appreciate your honesty. This truly helps people.
Lol 👍
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@@thinkoutsidethecontainerMudding aka dry wall first it needs to be peanut butter thick and you make sure you get the angle of the spatula right when smoothing let it dry it should take about a day and a half then when it's hard and dry then you sand it down with your hand not a sander then use a roller to paint the wall after you whip down the wall with a dry wash rag
Do you think that you needed all that framework
I'm not a structural engineer but I suspect a lot of the internal framing was way overkill. Could have been built smarter but I was in a rush to start construction. Definitely taking the lessons learned and applying to the second floor addition
Would love to see a two floors with 6 containers stairs going up ,and a container garage with pool and front deck /self sufficient farm homestead 💪🏾😂🔥🙏🏽😍💯
Around 50 years ago I worked for DOD as the head of the sheet metal shop (Bump and paint) plus any custom metal construction. We were the support maintenance division for every US Army, plus we did support work for every military unit when needed help in the state of Michigan.
My boss had 2 each 20 foot new, never use containers and asked me if it was possible to turn them into a portable office. We ended up using 2”X 4” using screws (Not nails) and glue to fabricate each wall, floor and ceiling. I dropped the wall height down to hold a frame rail made from 2 EA 1” X 4” pine sandwiched with a 1 inch plywood strip glued in the center, which wouldn’t flex as this office would be moved all the time. We glued down the floor, followed by the walls which we screwed to the floor and glued to the walls, and then loaded the ceiling on top of the walls and then insulated it all. We also built a wood wall with a doorway and 2 small sliding windows about a foot behind the container doors. I had the engineers run 12 volt, 24 volt and 110 volt wire systems for all the systems we used; from commercial trucks (12 Volt), Army (24 volt) plus a 110 Volt a generator. For the walls, ceiling and floor I used marine grade plywood with plastic seam connectors, which we primed and painted the walls before we installed them. The Army Unit loved it, as we also installed air conditioning and a power wall mounted air fan. I left 2 years later to move to Australia, so I have no idea what happened to them.
Welcome to Australia!
I’ve built three houses for myself and selling .. my list of things I wish I did different would be endless. 😂
Lol yup 😄
Same. Only 12 of them. List mile long.
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What do you charge for this 3-D modelling?
Two containers:
12 foot wide container, and 12 feet tall.
1. Container home.
2. Walk in deep freezer about half length 25 feet +/-, walk in meat locker & prep 15 feet +/- 34 degrees fahrenheit, and the last 12 feet a 44 degree cellar, and double entry using " Walk in Cooler Curtains/Plastic strip curtains" a few feet inside door.
Energy efficiency is a significant focus...this is first reason for wider and taller container size for both.
1. container home: apply spray foam to a set depth all around to them be cut flat... Then an "air gap" of whatever minimum is necessary to ensure condensation does not occur / moisture does NOT become trapped?
(The goal in spray foam and any additional insulation layers attached to the inner wall Directly is applying the concept of a "cold roof" ~ with the container being considered "the roof" all the way around.
After the air gap the remaining insulation planned is a similar approach to the "perfect wall"/"100 year wall" concept so from outside in:
Tyvek or similar /
other such as foil faced polyiso.
Termite and ant resistant XPS rigid foam board layers or similar,
Tyvek,
Inner wall of flat milled (likely cedar) cedar log interlocking/other tongue and groove/options.
Obviously we have a number of needs but the first is maximum energy conservation.
The future of energy and weather/climate let alone our New global reOrdering uncertainty is creating. The possibility to be either somewhat mobile, or to have a secondary system ready.
Let me know if this is something to discuss further or if I am way out in the field on what I think I am after?
@@1truthseeking8 Where are you getting a 12 foot wide container? The only ones I know of are 8 feet wide.
Big companies that build out these containers still swear by using a cut off wheel for the cutouts instead of a plasma cutter. Plasma is faster for the cut, BUT, you then still have the cleanup to do after which takes just as long. This can actually take longer and be much more expensive (plasma nozzle, gas, and consumables get expensive quickly). Also you risk many problems with the plasma cutters curf and your cut angle if your not experienced with them, resulting in too larger or small an opening.
I think for something that requires precision, like the cutout for doors or windows, you're right: stick to angle grinder. But when I was cutting off entire wall sections to open up floor space (the majority of all cutting, by the way), that really didn't take precision ....rough cuts were fine. Plasma cutter might still be best for those types of cuts.
For no build experience you did a really good job- especially if that's all the big issues you have! The problems you do have, many of them are due to lack of experience and some of them aren't really even problems, like the joist hangers- it's normal to only attach one side, put the boards in and then attach the others (you get a better fit that way into the hangers that way), and the drywall mudding was a bit loliful, I've done a LOOOT of that and it's just one of those things that with experience your problem isn't really even a problem, but that problem is just visual and it's an easy thing to redo as many times as you need to until you're happy- so easy to fix in the future if you even want to (I'd leave it if it were mine, I don't care much for form, more so function). I remodeled, flipped houses and built brand new Houses for about 25 Years but I no longer can- I basically don't have a left arm/shoulder anymore, any time I lift something heavier than about 15 pounds I get major pain the next Day- good for every day stuff but I can't lift anything anymore (I gotta say it's a curse and a blessing, I love rock climbing and can't anymore but People don't bother me to help them move stuff anymore either- that's great!).
Love that you came back and show these errors!❤
Good stuff. I was wondering how you were making out with everything! Awesome job on landing all of those customers. Dream it, Live it!
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Big respect to you for your build and your video... I see a big dedication to accuracy and precision in both... I'm hoping to build a shipping container home, money time and energy permitting!...
From South Africa 🇿🇦 much appreciated you sir,I’m so much humbled 👌🏽
Really great walk though, I know it might not have been easy to want to show off the learnings, but we all appreciate it! Great work!!
U have done such an amazing job regardless of the issues u had. Your home is beautiful
I remember your Red Pill channel, you are one of the OG's bro! Did your channel died? Great work btw, I can't grasp something so complex lol... I can only imagine living in a house you build yourself, should be a great feeling!
Yeah the other cha*nel was gotten rid of by you know who. It's still on Odyssey though.
Haha I thought you looked familiar, well it looks like you’ve found something that the overlords are okay with, in fact it looks like they might even promote you judging by the view count! Way to go!
You know what, even though you made some mistakes, you built this home and there is something to be said about that. Cool of you to have the courage to make this video as well. Congrats on your home, I hope you are enjoying it!
This is awesome!! there are countless container videos on the youtubez... But this right here, this is the best video out there. The long term and after affects of everything. if it's a " professional builder" or DIY.. There is always the things you would do different or the things that were problems. Really does help a ton!! You did a great job! My plan on my property is to do a bottom 3 with a single top sitting on 2 lowers and then the rest over hanging out the rest of the way. Glad to hear your new addition just for the fact you will put out more content! It's great stuff. Keep up the good work.
You inspired me in my early youth years ~10 years or so ago, I appreciate your work, good to stumble across you again.
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Good to see you again
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Looking at the structure there looks to be a good amount of roof space as well as utility space under the living areas. I would want to use that to fit solar panels on the roof with battery storage underneath. In that way you would not need to give up any living space to the system apart from a maintenance and control panel. A setup like that would allow you to go fully off-grid saving you those ever rising electricity bills. I am presuming you somehow have a mains connection currently as I don't recall you stating how you got power to your home.
So many gems in this video!
19:53 Kitty @ the slider door 🐈
Thank you for sharing I am looking for alternative home ideas.
AWESOME VIDEO THANKS, very useful.
I still remember when you made that video ordering Chinese food early 2020 🤣 Cool to find ya here, gl out there, bro!
Lololololololololololol
Thanks for sharing your lessons learned.
I appreciate not having to make the same mistakes ( this way I can make my own, but different mistakes)
Regarding removing the welds: An experienced steel worker can cut welds with an oxy-acetyline torch or plasma torch without damaging the structural parent material. It's really common that changes or mistakes are made in steel construction and ironworkers and pipe welders have to remove the weld. Using one of these gouging methods leaves much much less grinding. It takes some practice and might be hard to imagine for a first time user but rest assured that cutting welds with a torch is among the first crucial skills learned by an efficient steel worker.
Do you think it would be hard to use a torch to cut welds so close to the floor?
Nice to see you back. Thanks for the update and content!
Thank you for sharing!
Thanks, Dude. This will help people. Excellent Work.
You are amazing! The time and thought you’ve taken to plan, shoot and edit this video
Huge contribution
No doubt that this massive effort you embarked upon will keep bringing you opportunities, connections and prosperity
May your paths continue to drip with gold!
Thank you so much for sharing your build, and your attention to detail! U explain everything so well!! I plan to build my own container home soon! I would like to reach out to you for architectural designs and help with that!! Thank you so much for all that you done!
Great Video
Great job sir. You and your team. God bless you all! This was awesome.
Thanks for showing what many others don’t, your lessons learned. Thank you for your content.
WOW your good. Thanks for showing all of us this.
Great visual aid demonstration.
Excellent video
Glad you liked it
I would put a floating corrugated roof over the top of the container roof to keep the sun off the container and its easier to waterproof.
Regaring the 3/16" weld on the floor, if you put 1/8" underlayment under the flooring everywhere except these welds it might have leveled thjngs out enough. It also might've been possible to use self leveling concrete on the floor to bring the floor level up to the weld. Guessing that would've been more expensive materials-wise but lot less labor intensive.
Very helpful thank you 🙏
Great video...thanks for explaining the errors and fixes for them..will be emailing you for design/drafting assistance.
thank you sir will follow as your info is treasure great work also thanks again
That how we learn by mistakes. Overall you did good. Congratulations
New sub. Great video bro. I appreciate you admitting to your mistakes. Helps me with my planning.
Toe nail your rafters up to the lvl rim first, Then install the hangers. Protip
Hey, welcome back
very good videos man! thankssss
well the issue with the mudding is that you didn't feather the mud, feathering is what makes it smooth and strong. if you didn't find out later, but thanks for this video. I'm looking to do something similar and this helps! I appreciate the transparency
Thanks!
Thanks
Good job. Thanks for sharing mistakes. Helpful info. 26:41
Thanks alot 👏
Love your videos! A lot of great info! @ 7:05 you can see some of the chemtrails.
Wood buck inside the metal window frame, Seal under the door before setting, double 2x8 seems overkill for the rafters,
I used a pvc buck. Double 2x8 rafters probably were overkill, I just followed what my engineer told me.
Great forensic investigation on the vent!
Have you thought about making a video of how you take care of your animals and anything else you do for a homestead?
Yeah, I've thought about it. Not sure if it would make the most interesting video so I've not made a video. But maybe I'll do one.
Is there a condensation problem? If so how did you correct it? Also heating and cooling, what did you do?
Mudding aka dry wall first it needs to be peanut butter thick and you make sure you get the angle of the spatula right when smoothing let it dry it should take about a day and a half then when it's hard and dry then you sand it down with your hand not a sander
Do window with wood frames
You know a plain oxy acetylene torch would cut through that stuff really quickly.
How much do you charge for custom blueprint for container homes?
Use a metabo for cutting container walls or a cutting torch
Hello my friend! Nice work with your container house!
I am planning to do a container house, i know it’s a lot pf work but i really want to live mortgage free. I have plenty of time watching videos, but I don’t know how to find the land to do it, with the permits and all of that part of the work.
Do you think that you can give me any advice?
Appreciate men 💪🏼
Double 2x8 beams seems a bit excessive seeng as your only putting a ceiling and it’s not load bearing as in people walking on a floor above . I’m sure someone will give me the reason it was done this way.
I agree with you. They were over-engineered by my engineer. I just did what he told me to do.
I would of put an pvc elbow facing down like a cane and with a metal screen to keep any critters crawling in.
If you wet your tape first it helps stop bubbles
Do you have a materials list to go along with the computer design?
Mistake 1 is building a container home. I recommend these videos, by fine homebuilding. These 3 brothers used to frame a 1500 square foot house a day, back when it was mostly hand tools. Larry also wrote the Habitat construction book.
czcams.com/video/IQmt27qN6AI/video.html
Containers slow people down as much as they speed things up. And they certainly reduce design options. They are good for storage as they are somewhat harder to break into. But that means rather than building in wood, you need heavy machinery to move stuff, welding, and metal cutting. Whereas a wood house can be built with a hammer and a circular saw, along with common tools to either project like tape measures.
Some people like tree houses. That's their right, we can't take that away from them.
dude. you look so familiar. did you use to have another channel? i swear i used to watch you back in the day.
Red P*ll Philos*phy. It was terminated by the people that run this site. It's still on Odyssey though
@@thinkoutsidethecontainer YES! i was wondering where you went!? glad you have a place. I loved your stuff. The container stuff is dope too. Been watching a bunch of them. great work.
Can you post the price of the final product … thank you awesome work
Yes, I made a video on the final cost here:
czcams.com/video/huALxD0U45g/video.htmlsi=6dybQobfn1i68niE
I have some plans now
Hey Chris, u got me to Nathan Oakleys, years ago… are you still a listener???
Not too much these days, but I do tune in occasionally still 👍 Oakley's show remains the undefeated king of earth debates
@@thinkoutsidethecontainer awsome man, that was a real buzz around that time when u we’re doing the lighthouse stuff, and everything going on in Oakleys..
Miss the channe!! Hope all is good, starting my own build now, not containers but, got good inspiration from your build 👍
@@Richutube2000 good luck on your build. My RPP channel is still on Odyssey
Do you feel that 3 containers is enough space? Would you add more?
Did you consider put the wood frame in outside?,to not take space in the interior??and install the rock sheet on a low omega??
I remember your other CZcams channel. Always wondered what happened to you. This is a better subject matter for you anyways.
The other one was terminated by YT but can still be found on Odyssey
@@thinkoutsidethecontainer Thanks for these uploads, about to do the same thing myself. Still looking at properties in Texas, Colorado and North Carolina. Havent decided where yet,
@@PlasmaBurns cool. Good luck with it.
You should wet the paper tape before applying
Is your 3d model downloadable 1 off fee? I mean by downloadable If I buy another computer Is It easy to Install again etc. Also when It comes too Materials what do you have in regards to this. I'm curious to use Sandstone blocks as a foundation :)
How does it works the calefaction or AC for this kind of home?
You have to make a few big mistakes to learn to do anything well.
Use mushroom type vent
I’m not sure, but I think there’s a difference in windows, there’s new windows and there’s replacement windows. One of them has a lip with screw holes all the way around it that would have totally worked in your case, and you wouldn’t have had to weld all of the Additional pieces. Maybe it was just the wrong type of window?
I believe I got new construction windows (not retrofit). Mine has a flange all around it on the exterior to create a waterproof seal.
I do believe it's just that I forgot to account for the jamb depth...
100% for effort - interesting, armature learning & exposing faults
why didnt you roof it? keep the heat off the main structure and create overhangs to get heat off the sides?
I cant believe slag burned through cardboard😮. Jk. Nice house tho, video is inspirational.
You should of passed the vent pipe complete throug the boot pipe, so it sticks out.
How many buckets did you use on the roof of three shipping could you please let me know thank you very much
I believe I used about one and a half buckets
great video , thank you. Could you explain how to fill and water proof the gap on the roof that forms between two shipping containers .
I have a past video that explains what I did.
Here's the link: czcams.com/video/A1l2Vky-HD0/video.htmlsi=YReXC9toLil7sKk3
Fast forward to 15:10
Never ever put your sewer vent anywhere near an intake of anykind. You can 90 it or 45 it to take it away from there it does not need to be straight up
It cost you ~60k. How much do you think it would have costed building it like a traditional home? Also how did you support the containers where you cut the side/walls of the containers?
So, the vent pipe was shared?
to avoid running into the weld problem , wouldn't it make for a good feature if putting two containers together, but elevating one a step higher, to avoid running into the weld being sanded down. ? Just saying .
I'm in Jacksonville fl and struggling to find a engineer. Who did you use?
I found an engineer on Upwork.com, but obviously you have to be careful who you choose, vet them etc.
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How deep are you concrete foundatin=on post?
my wife and I are planning a container home build. where r u located
What software you use?
What size containers u have
Are you in Hendry county? I was considering doing a container home also. Was just wondering.😊
Yeah I'm in Hendry County. Specifically Montura Ranches but last year they stopped allowing new constructions for container homes in Montura so...
@@thinkoutsidethecontainer my property is in Fort Denaud. I'm definitely going to ask the building department to find out. Thanks for replying
It's allowed on our property!!! Just wanted to share the good news!!! You've inspired us!!!
@@thinkoutsidethecontainer my husband and I have questions. How do we email you?
My email is in the description of this video
Circular saw with a metal blade...
That's what I was gonna say. You've got too tightly sealed a home and when you turn on that fan, you're starting to create a vacuum so any place that can get some air coming in? It's gonna get it and so too. Yes, once you're in there. Yes, what ha ha ha ha ha. That's where it was getting that air coming back in there. Oh well, the best thing to do with homes like that is to have a Programmable reversible fan vent. vent. Pipe, that goes out the roof but goes all the way down by the floor because it's placed down there. So while you sleep at night, you just have that fan set on on low and it's taking a little bit of air out from the area down by the floor all the time, so it's just taking cool air because inside heat rises. And it can save your money that way and also keep your air clean in there, so you don't have much carbon dioxide. You get fresh air to breathe all the time. That's gonna take carbon dioxide out of the home, and it's going to let you know, when you're not running a fan to create the vacuum. It's gonna act as an exhaust so you can get rid of CO2.
and cold on the floor. Because when we breathe the carbon dioxide goes down to the ground. So that's why we sleep up on the bed. Because if you have a really good sealed home, you can suffocate after you sleeping there for 7to8 hours in your own CO2 exhaust. So there's a lot of things people don't think about, but it's wise to just put a little vent, at the floor. Those kind of windows, the sliding windows that have a little vent on the slider of them or the side. You know of the part of the window that opens. You just have a little vent. You push-up or down on it'll open that vent. Those are good windows. You want to have a little air vented? One that gives you less vacuum inside the house and gives you some a tiny bit of air flow. You have to have air flow unless this is the way. It is you can't live in a hermetically sealed environment and eat them. It's not a spaceship. Okay. So you don't you know you will figure it out. Looks like you already did, but I would still add a event or a couple of small events down towards the floor because that way you get in fresh air coming in you know, you always have a possibility of a tiny bit of fresh air coming in and your carbon dioxide Going Out. Good luck on that looks like a nice home. Buddy did good on the pricing and everything. You know you got scalped for some of the materials, but you could have bought some used materials too and that could have saved you a lot more, but others of that, you know are you going to find a place where they're gonna tear down a home and you tell him I want the material or I? Want some other materials and a lot of times you can get it free. So there's a lot of invention of other things called imagination.You can use.You did pretty good anyway.Have a good one.😊
Any issues with condensation build up/mold? I've heard it's a big concern in shipping container homes.
Since I spray foamed mine I Don't think that's an issue. Though it might vary depending on if you use open cell vs closed cell spray foam? Not sure.
@@thinkoutsidethecontainer Thanks for the quick reply another concern I have is chemicals. I've heard shipping containers are coated with lots of chemicals to better withstand the weather and I don't want to be inhaling that. Did you have to do any extra cleaning to ensure it's fine?
Condensation is not an issue if the insulation is adhered to the container wall, ie. spraying foam onto it. Otherwise ventilation is more important.
As for the chemical concern, the paint may have some constituent that is problematic? Or the treated plywood flooring? Remove prior or leave and seal and should be fine.