The Rise and Fall of Doctor Who Confidential

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  • čas přidán 11. 10. 2023
  • We recently had news of a brand new Doctor Who behind-the-scenes spinoff named "Doctor Who Unleashed", which will debut alongside the 60th anniversary specials. This got me thinking of Doctor Who's older behind the scenes show "Doctor Who Confidential", so in this video let's take a look at the show's rise and fall, along with why something like this is so essentially to the show.
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  • @HarboWholmes
    @HarboWholmes  Před 8 měsíci +5

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  • @MrBithellF1
    @MrBithellF1 Před 8 měsíci +26

    When I was growing up I would watch Doctor Who with my mum because she loved Sci-Fi wheres as my dad hated it and much prefered non fiction TV. He never watched Doctor Who but never missed an episode of Doctor Who Confidential

  • @tardistrailers
    @tardistrailers Před 8 měsíci +28

    The Confidential for The Girl Who Waited is also the one I immediately remember, when thinking about padding. They also interviewed the lunch lady about everyones favourite food in another episode iirc. As much as I enjoyed Matt, Karen and Arthur interact with each other, the episodes should have been 10-20 minutes shorter most of the time. 30 minutes for Unleashed seems like a good fit and according to what we've seen so far, the chemistry between Ncuti Gatwa and Millie Gibson will be just as delightful to watch.

  • @LiveHedgehog
    @LiveHedgehog Před 8 měsíci +40

    I have a memory of Bad Day by Daniel Powter playing in a confidential episode, over 9's regeneration. But I'm convinced it's an invented memory because I can't for the life of me find it.

    • @DigiRangerScott
      @DigiRangerScott Před 8 měsíci +10

      WHERE IS THE MOMENT WHEN YOU NEED IT THE MOST? Is it make believe or is it actually lost?

    • @LiveHedgehog
      @LiveHedgehog Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@DigiRangerScottI have no clue unfortunately. It's genuinely my first memory of that regeneration though. I ran out crying when 9 regenerated because I was 4 lmao.

    • @xaqqa
      @xaqqa Před 8 měsíci +6

      Same here! Also Snow Patrol - Chasing Cars over the Confidential episode for Gridlock (I swear I remember that song being used anyway). Pretty sure they used Take That - Never Forget for End of Time part 2's Confidential too.

    • @TheRealUnkn0wn_289
      @TheRealUnkn0wn_289 Před 8 měsíci +4

      The blurays and new DVDs use edited confidentials, only the original DVD releases of series 1 have the full confidentials the other seasons have edited ones, the full ones are most likely the ones coming to iPlayer but if not, they are also on CZcams and the rest on dailymotion

    • @Sci-Fi-Mike
      @Sci-Fi-Mike Před 8 měsíci +1

      Often, the recording studios or musicians only grant use for the televised airing of a show. Either the period of time for use can sometimes expire or the medium for use can be restricted. Or it could be the Mandela Effect. Just some thoughts.

  • @barrelracer12
    @barrelracer12 Před 8 měsíci +13

    I've always been of the mindset that learning how to do the trick doesn't ruin the magic for me. I know it's not 'magic' it's talent and skill. Knowing how it was done gives me a better appreciation for the talent and craft. I think that is exactly the same with media and behind-the-scenes content!

    • @VortexJae
      @VortexJae Před 8 měsíci +3

      I couldn't agree more! I'm of a similar mindset myself - It only perpetuates my appreciation and intrest more, I love it!

  • @xaqqa
    @xaqqa Před 8 měsíci +5

    I feel like Confidential definitely sparked my love of the creative industries. Never noticed it at the time but nearly 2 decades later I'm now working in the games industry and it's become so much more apparent to me that this is where my love for the behind-the-scenes of creative media came from. I'm ecstatic at the news of it returning in some form!

  • @SSJPENGUIN
    @SSJPENGUIN Před 8 měsíci +7

    I was terrified of the RTD Cybermen, even the poster I got from Doctor Who Adventures magazine struck fear into me
    It was only seeing actors enter/exit their costumes on Confidential that helped me through it😫

  • @lucypreece7581
    @lucypreece7581 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I remember the confidential episode from the SIlurian 2 parter that showed what foley artists do and I have always found that profession to be really clever and creative so it was really interesting to see how they work

  • @oisinjadran
    @oisinjadran Před 8 měsíci +3

    U perfectly described why as a 20yr old miss Confidential so much. U just earned a subscriber

  • @ShadowWingTronix
    @ShadowWingTronix Před 8 měsíci +5

    We never got Confidential in the states, at least not until the DVDs came out. When I found out about it I had to look online to see if anyone posted them to see how they made the show. I like watching the behind the scenes stuff after I've seen the show because I find it fascinating how they pull off certain illusions. Of course now it's mostly "we did it with computers" which is interesting artistically but not as cool as when they use practical effects.

  • @bradugar
    @bradugar Před 8 měsíci +2

    Them using Bringing Sexy Back for the Oods in Series 4 was every bizzare & funny

  • @Schming
    @Schming Před 8 měsíci +1

    Love the quiet shade dropped on Ian Levine there ;)

  • @ColorOfSakura
    @ColorOfSakura Před 8 měsíci +1

    I remember torrenting every episode of Confidential as they came out because of the fact that they never aired on US TV, and I really loved seeing all the behind the scenes work on the show.
    A huge reason for my interest in those sorts of behind the scenes features was entirely due to getting the Extended Editions of Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings. The amount of behind the scenes content and footage included with them was so impressively in depth and it was what got me interested in learning about how films and shows got made.
    It made me so sad when DW Confidential shifted away from the Production aspects in the later seasons and then eventually stopped being made. I feel like my interest in the show started waning partially because of the fact that I no longer had access to learning about the cool ways they filmed and produced the show.

  • @Tulf42
    @Tulf42 Před 6 měsíci

    One of my favourite episodes of Confidential was the last episode of the Davies era: The End of Time Part Two.
    From how they bring back the Time Lords for NuWho to how they filmed the regeneration and how carefully they planned the post-regeneration scene to David's Golden rap to the clip montage of the Tenth Doctor's era accompanied by the Take That song: Never Forget, which is such a fitting song to end on and I always think of for a finale of anything.

  • @mjvdg4194
    @mjvdg4194 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I think an important part of the 2005-2010 era was also that it was kind of the beginning of creators and celebrities parasocialising with their fans (or the other way around) in this kind of way. Namely in the form of video podcasts and the like; which this always felt like.
    It’s the earliest example I can remember of cast and crew members joking around and chatting to the audience besides blooper reels.
    My strongest memory of Confidential is of David Tennant basically vlogging in the Shakespeare Code episode!

  • @dougsfilmtv9810
    @dougsfilmtv9810 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Good review of Doctor Who Confidential! I am in the same as you, but I didn't get it in the states, and I had to wait until the DVD's were out.

  • @AshleyJoannaWilliams-sn9hk
    @AshleyJoannaWilliams-sn9hk Před 8 měsíci +5

    You know it's a good day when Harbo posts a new video

  • @aeloswindrunner
    @aeloswindrunner Před 8 měsíci +1

    I too have fond memories of confidential, one thing I loved was seeing how they pulled off the weeping angels. Was quite funny seeing them dancing around behind the scenes xD

  • @greghawkins59
    @greghawkins59 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I'm nervous of unleashed having a host but confidential often had cast members take up a host like role so might work.

  • @lukebaxter3252
    @lukebaxter3252 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Confidential was always something fun for me to watch as a behind the scenes fan for films and shows.
    Btw, I love your channel.

  • @tomw4014
    @tomw4014 Před 8 měsíci

    I’m sure you already know, but in Aus we had ‘Whovians’ as a talk-show style post-DW ep program to watch, but wasn’t about much BTS, mainly just comedians who love the show able to geek out about their favourite show together with an audience who also love it :)
    I wonder if this new Unleashed will be similar ?

  • @AlexsTheWizard
    @AlexsTheWizard Před 8 měsíci +1

    So glad a new behind the scenes show is continuing out.

  • @DigiRangerScott
    @DigiRangerScott Před 8 měsíci +2

    I think this show exacerbates my guilt that I didn’t get into Who sooner. But it also makes me angrier that Capaldi and Whittaker didn’t get this

  • @gussyt1761
    @gussyt1761 Před 8 měsíci

    7:00 random ‘The Chats’ Australian Band cameo in Harbo

  • @darren.mcauliffe
    @darren.mcauliffe Před 8 měsíci +2

    Don't downplay dvds. With everything on streaming now extras like this are non-existent. For the most part they are disappearing from dvds too and only on Blurays; which sucks. But home media is the only place to see this stuff.

  • @Calzaki
    @Calzaki Před 8 měsíci

    So its confirmed - RTD and behind the scenes companion show come as a package deal

  • @TheBeastBoss04
    @TheBeastBoss04 Před 8 měsíci

    Santa's not real? That's more unbelievable than a Blue Box being able to take Van Gogh to see Bill Nighy

  • @Sci-Fi-Mike
    @Sci-Fi-Mike Před 8 měsíci

    I've heard a couple of people complain that these behind-the-scenes documentaries ruin the magic, but as you said, @HarboWholmes, one can simply choose to not watch them. I love documentaries, by the way, and Confidential was fantastic!

  • @NileSWPhotography
    @NileSWPhotography Před 8 měsíci +1

    The way I was lying to myself about crying to Who music videos and he said “don’t you dare lie to me” 😂🙄

  • @julians552
    @julians552 Před 8 měsíci

    I think we've done it. A documentary on a documentary. We can't go deeper...
    ... can we?

  • @gota7738
    @gota7738 Před 8 měsíci

    Doctor Who scared me when it first came back, so I'd listen in the other room, popping my head round the door when I thought it was safe. But afterwards I'd rush to join the rest of my family on the sofa to watch Doctor Who Confidential and while I claimed to hate Doctor Who, I LOVED Confidential.
    It was an avenue where I could engage with the series through my facination with production, untill I could handle the real show.

  • @doneisenbarth
    @doneisenbarth Před 8 měsíci +3

    8:19
    SANTA’S NOT REAL?!?!?

  • @RickyTrain5
    @RickyTrain5 Před 8 měsíci

    I think you mean when kids THINK that Santa's not real earlier and earlier. They just don't know the real truth of his existence.

  • @praalgraf
    @praalgraf Před 8 měsíci

    ohh this was so fun !

  • @MAGICMONKEY52
    @MAGICMONKEY52 Před 8 měsíci +1

    You didn't mention anything about the 'full length' versions of Confidential vs the 'cut down' versions. On the DVD Boxsets they only have the Confidential cut downs. Bit disappointing to be honest.

  • @MuchWhittering
    @MuchWhittering Před 8 měsíci

    You say it's locked behind DVDs and Blu-Rays, but honestly those barely cover this either. It's why I hope the Collection sets one day come to NuWho, and give us extras as good as the Classic sets.

  • @topmandog1
    @topmandog1 Před 8 měsíci

    i only had 5 channels, i never saw a single episode of confidental as a kid

  • @tigglesbruh
    @tigglesbruh Před 8 měsíci

    I hope Unleashed is similar to The Last of Us HBO’s behind the scenes

  • @mahfuzurchowdhury2765
    @mahfuzurchowdhury2765 Před 8 měsíci

    I imagine Doctor Who Unleashed will be similar to Britain's Got MORE Talent, with a host, Stephen Mulhern.

  • @lp-xl9ld
    @lp-xl9ld Před 8 měsíci

    And the same could be said of TORCHWOOD DECLASSIFIED.

  • @Bellevolence_
    @Bellevolence_ Před 8 měsíci

    Where is your Heaven Sent/Hell Bent review!!

  • @davidkieltyka9
    @davidkieltyka9 Před 8 měsíci

    The Fan Show took a kinda/sorta Talking Dead approach. It was hit & miss IMO but the ep with Peter Capaldi was really good. Seems like The Fan Show has been memoryholed.

  • @MissSerenity98
    @MissSerenity98 Před 8 měsíci

    I hope it’s not like talking dead, they tried that with the Doctor Who Fan show

  • @forcedalek
    @forcedalek Před 8 měsíci

    Me who saw both thumbnails 😎

  • @robertk2194
    @robertk2194 Před 8 měsíci

    14:39 well, this aged badly 😂

  • @GarbaggioGoblino
    @GarbaggioGoblino Před 8 měsíci

    wtf skillet jumpscare

  • @erubin100
    @erubin100 Před 8 měsíci +2

    "It's important to give children good media while they're young so they'll expect better when they're older."
    That's literally the opposite of Hollywood's thought process right now, lol.

  • @NTNG13
    @NTNG13 Před 8 měsíci

    What's bruv yapping about? Jago and Litefoot is clearly the superior spin off

  • @psych0536
    @psych0536 Před 8 měsíci

    So, austerity killed Confidential... not too surprising