How RTD Built The Ultimate Doctor Who Universe (Video Essay)

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  • čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
  • In a world obsessed with cinematic universes and worldbuilding, most people forget how well the Russell T Davies era of Doctor Who managed to achieve this level of storytelling. From recurring aliens to political upheaval, this is how Doctor Who crafted the ultimate fictional universe.
    Chapters:
    00:00-01:09 [Introduction]
    01:10-04:26 [The Fall of Harriet and the Rise of Harold]
    04:27-06:30 [A Sprawling Dalek Saga]
    06:31-08:23 [Revolutionising the Cybermen]
    08:24-10:30 [A Universe of Monsters]
    10:31-11:58 [UNIT On the Frontlines]
    11:59-15:02 [Torchwood (and SJA)]
    15:03-17:00 [A Universe of Real People]
    17:01-20:39 [Story Arcs]
    20:40-23:20 [Conclusion]
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Komentáře • 510

  • @HarboWholmes
    @HarboWholmes  Před 2 lety +113

    my channel may or may not be dying so patreon pls thanks
    www.patreon.com/harbowholmes

    • @thetimeshadow6769
      @thetimeshadow6769 Před 2 lety +5

      So, S Rank?

    • @darynvoss7883
      @darynvoss7883 Před 2 lety +6

      Waaa, no, I want copious excellent content for free!
      ... fine, I've bought one of the cheap seats...

    • @the25thdoctor
      @the25thdoctor Před 2 lety +3

      I would I really would but I’m broke.

    • @LynnMTHA
      @LynnMTHA Před 2 lety +1

      I'll SAVE YOU! Well, subscribe at least. Back cyber bullies, Back! The return of RTD is a time of joy! There's no such thing as coincidence. This calls for some Chameleon Circuit! Last 2 years were a dream sequence, never happened. These are special circumstances and I do wish it never really happened. There's always been times where we had to overlook things, I'm willing to pretend this never happened.

    • @kennethnystrom593
      @kennethnystrom593 Před 2 lety

      Harbo W. You missed the most important arcs of them all during RTD era,
      The Doctor and his Mother.
      How our Doctor came to be and birth by futurepast events (like how Ace was born).
      How the Master came to be born. (Donna Noble is the key; the heartbeats as Donna Noble gets trapped inside the TARDIS in Journeys End) as The incarnation from inbetween the twelvth and final regen was 50% Donna. (Aka the same heartbeats the Master heard thruout his life before Missy tricked him into ascending into becoming the new Black Guardian over time.
      How Rose was set up to become Romanalunda & the new White Guardian (and Santa)
      Please type me a message here and ill explain it all...
      And I mean EVERYTHING since 1963.
      Including how Doctor Tyler 1972 was the 0th riginal incarnation that never knew he was THE Doctor
      How Rose all along was the Doctors sister (ROse MArionN (A).
      How Clara is the new (current Doctor) for the new WHoniverse but that will never know she really is the Doctor. aka same as Doctor Tyler never knew aka Clara was the 0th riginal incarnation.
      AND how the raven save of Clara (yes the raven saved Clara to a harddrive) (PC had the same fate)
      AND!!!!
      CAL in the library is this raven save of Clara And that is the real 1st new Doctor that one day will know shes the Doctor.
      (CLara became the Doctor on Akehaten during the deamonstar speech (its in the lyrics to the song)

  • @Curelax
    @Curelax Před 2 lety +768

    This could not have been published at a better time: RTD is coming back to write Doctor Who

    • @richardvinsen2385
      @richardvinsen2385 Před 2 lety +36

      @Flarrow Storm it was announced earlier today. He’s coming back for the60th anniversary and the 2023 season. At least. He’ll be introducing the 14th Doctor.

    • @shanenspitaler5790
      @shanenspitaler5790 Před 2 lety +13

      @Flarrow Storm 100% true! He's back!

    • @jessica23claire
      @jessica23claire Před 2 lety +13

      DAVIES ERA 2.0 BABYYYYY! Such a crazy announcement to wake up to. I was talking to a friend not 12 hours before about how I missed RTD and how I wished he'd come back and this was the first piece of news I saw this morning.

    • @larsswig912
      @larsswig912 Před 2 lety +2

      @@richardvinsen2385 is he coming back as a showrunner or just for the 60th anniversary episode?

    • @richardvinsen2385
      @richardvinsen2385 Před 2 lety +10

      @@larsswig912 both.

  • @astroguster5522
    @astroguster5522 Před 2 lety +460

    It's crazy cause RTD had no business making the Whoniverse so interconnected and real. He really set the bar so high for Moffat and Chibnall

    • @LabradorIndependent
      @LabradorIndependent Před 2 lety +52

      I really didn't appreciate how good the RTD era was at the time. That's the first Doctor Who I ever saw, so that was my benchmark for how the show should be. Looking back, Doctor Who never deserved to be as fucking outstanding as it was in those years.

    • @theentity5201
      @theentity5201 Před 2 lety +30

      And they both tore the bar off the rails and melted it down, Moffat trashed all the continuity, I really didnt like him for that

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 2 lety +5

      The classic series never was interconect or continuity. The Fourth Doctor era was a tabula rasa.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 2 lety +2

      @@theentity5201 Why, everybody did that with his Doctors.

    • @bryntownshend6528
      @bryntownshend6528 Před 2 lety +9

      Yeah the bar was too high that nobody else could beat him so he's had to return to put the show back on track 😂😂

  • @tidmouthmilk12
    @tidmouthmilk12 Před 2 lety +178

    Harbo Wholmes: *posts video praising Russell T Davies era*
    Not even 24 hours later: *BBC announces Russell T Davies is returning as showrunner*

    • @xaqqa
      @xaqqa Před 2 lety +8

      Was about to say this. I can't wait. It seems a lot of others are returning including Murray Gold, too.

    • @toast99bubbles
      @toast99bubbles Před 2 lety

      48 hours actually.

    • @henryg4377
      @henryg4377 Před 2 lety +1

      Congratulations, you were the first to say it!

    • @obi501
      @obi501 Před 2 lety +4

      @@xaqqa MURRAY GOLD

    • @kylenetherwood8734
      @kylenetherwood8734 Před 2 lety +1

      He was that flattered haha

  • @johannvongenerico9487
    @johannvongenerico9487 Před 2 lety +157

    I'm still bitter about UNIT being canned in a call centre/government cuts joke in Resolution. UNIT deserved better dammit!

    • @Doiknowyou566
      @Doiknowyou566 Před 2 lety +49

      That joke didn’t even make sense if I recall. In the episode they blamed Brexit for UNIT’s unavailability, but UNIT had nothing to do with the EU, it was from the United Nations so the joke doesn’t work.

    • @nathanielfarkas746
      @nathanielfarkas746 Před 2 lety +6

      Lucky unit is returning in next years special

    • @DalekCaanOfSkaro
      @DalekCaanOfSkaro Před 2 lety +17

      I always had a fan fiction belief that after Harmony Shoal infiltrated UNIT at the end of "The Return of Doctor Mysterio", UNIT had to go under and pretend to be canned by Governement cut backs, whilst some members continued operating freelance.

    • @obi501
      @obi501 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Doiknowyou566 chibnall for you

    • @user-jn1wm3tb8v
      @user-jn1wm3tb8v Před 2 lety +5

      @@DalekCaanOfSkaro That's a really good headcanon.

  • @hoobslice
    @hoobslice Před 2 lety +65

    Something you notice with his writing during his seasons is he always manages to tie everything together and have an underlying sub-plot that becomes a major plot point later in the season. (Badwolf, the prophecies in Pompeii, the prophecies from the ood, etc.) Makes the show so much more captivating.

    • @Experiment-qj1ow
      @Experiment-qj1ow Před 2 lety +2

      100% thats elevates the show so much

    • @RandomPerson-mp2yp
      @RandomPerson-mp2yp Před 2 lety +1

      Yep that’s true he made a cohesive world it’s a shame that they couldn’t make some references to his era bc now it’s just a new world.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před rokem

      You must hate the classic era?

    • @hoobslice
      @hoobslice Před rokem

      @@mayotango1317 pre ninth doctor? I haven’t watched any of that besides a couple movies

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před rokem

      @@hoobslice You must watch it. You really must watch it.

  • @ericwilder9892
    @ericwilder9892 Před 2 lety +195

    What a coincidence! Just announced as showrunner... again! God Bless RTD! For my childhood (and for a big part of me)!

    • @sahilonpc9250
      @sahilonpc9250 Před 2 lety

      you're joking right
      this has to be some sort of cruel, sick, twisted joke to get our hopes up right?

    • @marcos-ll2yr
      @marcos-ll2yr Před 2 lety +1

      @@sahilonpc9250 no, is true, is for real. what world you living in? Was announced a 1 week on twitter, bbc news etc.

    • @sahilonpc9250
      @sahilonpc9250 Před 2 lety

      @@marcos-ll2yr damn

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 5 měsíci

      And RTD kill the show.

  • @connorchenery977
    @connorchenery977 Před 2 lety +73

    Watching this video thinking man it would be cool for him to come back as show runner. Less than 24 hours later and its announced he's the new show runner. Congrats you summoned him

  • @LabradorIndependent
    @LabradorIndependent Před 2 lety +25

    Can we talk about The Long Game and Bad Wolf for a minute? The Doctor's actions in one episode directly setting up the events of the finale created this immersive feeling that, in the hundred years between the two episodes, the universe had kept on going. It didn't feel like we just dipped into an episode that was waiting for The Doctor to arrive in order for plot to happen. This made the universe feel real, and lived in.
    That's also what we can observe with The Doctor's deposing of Harriet Jones, although that's never really made into a point in the show itself. It's a bit of a shame that sort of story didn't come up more often.

  • @HypArtz002
    @HypArtz002 Před 2 lety +43

    I like how the thumbnail makes RTD look like the Doctor

  • @thetasigma412
    @thetasigma412 Před 2 lety +119

    It’s so important that the stories tie so closely into the universe like this. I saw someone in the comments of a video once saying that they deem episodes they don’t like as non-canon, but with the Davies era that just doesn’t work. Like, if Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks isn’t canon, then the entirety of Series 4 doesnt happen, because Dalek Caan wouldn’t have brought the Doctor and Donna together.

    • @yannatoko9898
      @yannatoko9898 Před 2 lety +2

      I suppose so. I was never really a fan of that "destiny" aspect.

    • @thetasigma412
      @thetasigma412 Před 2 lety +1

      @@yannatoko9898 tbh, I'm not a fan of it either, but I stand by my point that you can't just pick and choose canon when it comes to the tv show

    • @yannatoko9898
      @yannatoko9898 Před 2 lety

      I am not that concerned over canon. Ultimately most of it makes little sense if you compare certain stories to other stories, especially concerning the non-television ones. It could be possible that Caan temporal-shifted somewhere else, the Doctor met him again, then the next time he then went to the Time War. It's impossible to truly ascertain. Anyway all I really care about is good stories.

    • @thetasigma412
      @thetasigma412 Před 2 lety

      @@yannatoko9898 that's a good way to look at it, I reckon. I'm not here to impose my view of canon onto the rest of the world, so whatever works for you is best :)

    • @unclegumbald989
      @unclegumbald989 Před 2 lety +1

      Doctor Donna Friends!

  • @chiffon788
    @chiffon788 Před 2 lety +120

    Make a video about the strengths of Christopher Eccleston’s Doctor before they announce who 14 will be, I think you’ve got a gift.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 2 lety +3

      He did that in his Series 1 videos. And was so much hate behind the scenes.

    • @chiffon788
      @chiffon788 Před 2 lety +7

      @@mayotango1317 I know, just... Make a video about a good show runner, he's confirmed to come back 24 hours later. Make a video about a good Doctor... Hope the pattern holds.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 2 lety +2

      @@chiffon788 I wait for The Eleventh Hour review.

    • @dannyvimpany7585
      @dannyvimpany7585 Před 2 lety +2

      we can only hope

    • @toast99bubbles
      @toast99bubbles Před 2 lety +1

      @@chiffon788 48 hours later.

  • @dezza99
    @dezza99 Před 2 lety +115

    Here after they just announced he's coming back as showrunner, fuck yeah bois we did it!

    • @LordMooshroom
      @LordMooshroom Před 2 lety +2

      You didn't do anything

    • @archusrtm6325
      @archusrtm6325 Před 2 lety

      WAIT REALLY??! WOW!!

    • @michaelm5542
      @michaelm5542 Před 2 lety +2

      @Tristan Lane you think the BBC won’t want to replicate the show’s most popular age? His?

    • @michaelm5542
      @michaelm5542 Před 2 lety

      @Tristan Lane hmmmm, perhaps. They always let people who knew how to do their jobs, do their jobs. Even Clarkson said so himself.
      Thank you! Quite an underrated picture in regards to meme potential.

    • @michaelm5542
      @michaelm5542 Před 2 lety

      @Tristan Lane maybe, at least BBC has tried to turn Top Gear around, it’s a helluva lot better than in 2016. And it still has three straight white males in the main presenting roles, which is rare for them these days!

  • @Sparx632
    @Sparx632 Před 2 lety +47

    Gonna be weird having to now refer to the Davies Era as the *First* Davies Era.

    • @maouliamediaofficial
      @maouliamediaofficial Před rokem +1

      I still call it the T Davies era. I'm calling the second one the Re-Davies era

  • @humanbeing366
    @humanbeing366 Před 2 lety +43

    what a coincidence that a day after the video davies is now the showrunner
    HARBO IS THE BBC CONFIRMED

  • @KrisFrost4359
    @KrisFrost4359 Před 2 lety +89

    As much as I love the Moffat era for a multitude of reasons, the Whoniverse never felt as interconnected again. Sure, a little bit in 2010 when the Doctor brought up Stolen Earth and wondered why no one ever mentioned the CyberKing again, and again when he appeared in SJA's fourth series, but after that it lost a lot of that connectivity it had. He rebooted the universe and then had to reintroduce characters to creatures they should already know like Cybermen and Daleks, while stuff like Torchwood: Miracle Day, an event that impacted the whole world for months, was never even mentioned in the main show.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 2 lety +1

      The classic series never is conected.

    • @Devlinator61116
      @Devlinator61116 Před 2 lety +9

      Russell T Davis was also in charge of TSJA, so he was responsible for the Brigadier, The Doctor (twice), and Jo Jones returning, as well as the the Slithen trying to get their revenge after Boom Town, the lone Sontaran stranded on Earth after The Poison Sky, and so on.

    • @michaeldeboer
      @michaeldeboer Před 2 lety +7

      I disagree to an extent. Moffat did choose to connect less with the RTD era in the beginning, only offering throwaway comments to Daleks in the sky, but there were the Angels obviously and River Song and the appearance of the Tenth Doctor's TARDIS console room in the Doctor's Wife bc they had it in storage. But Moffat definitely built on what RTD already established. RTD did mostly standalone episode villains with the Daleks vs Cybermen episodes as exceptions. But Moffat had River Song meet the Angels, had Daleks pop up in non-Dalek episodes, did A Good Man Goes to War where the Cybermen show up along with a new Silurian and Sontaran character. He takes established continuity and plays off it. A non-soldier Sontaran as nurse and butler, a detective Silurian. RTD's Army of Ghosts was the beginning but it opened the door for Moffat to do Pandorica Opens, establish a passive grand universe of aliens that exist in the background of the show. He creates the Parliament of the Daleks and makes the name of the show itself a vital mystery. RTD set the groundwork for Moffat's playground, and in the Capaldi era he is confident enough to display his respect for the classic show and RTD era, first lovingly having Tennant mock his own role, bringing back Gallifrey, the Master and the Cybermen together, and then the Master meeting Davros from the RTD era with RTD era Daleks and bringing back Simm's master in a brilliant move plus old school Cybermen AND the first Doctor. Moffat's Who is cleverly interwoven timestreams from not just RTD but to classic Who, with the ending of Empress of Mars, the Brigadier and his daughter, the Zygons, the Fifth Doctor, the Eight Doctor's Night of the Doctor... Moffat accepted that continuity in Doctor Who is flexible. The villain in Name of the Doctor is the one going through the Doctor's time stream to know every fact, the Intelligence killing for knowledge to find out the Doctor's name, but in the end the message is the name is not important, Clara is the savior bc she is there throughout the Doctor's run telling him "the navigation's knackered but it's more fun that way". Do your own thing. He's an ageless being, a sunset, a mountain, who lives for so long that memories blur and time becomes meaningless. Things from ancient history can come back and new things can become ancient history. People don't respect what Moffat brought to Who, really. A self-awareness too, with the Doctor using his outfit as his sense of identity, like the bowtie and the question mark underwear. But also the inherent contradictions in the show itself. It's all connected.
      Then Chibnall came and threw 15 years of continuity out the window.

    • @theredstonebuilder1120
      @theredstonebuilder1120 Před 2 lety

      With torchwood, they probably couldn't mention plots in doctor who as younger viewers may have become interested, and checked out torchwood.

    • @mackielunkey2205
      @mackielunkey2205 Před 2 lety +3

      Agreed! While I liked how Moffat decided to do his own things by setting it in the future rather than add to the RTD era, I do kind of miss it. Sure, it’s better than him trying to change so many plot elements of the universe RTD created with the possibility of screwing it up, but it’s a bit sad that he can’t provide his own takes on it at least.

  • @darynvoss7883
    @darynvoss7883 Před 2 lety +53

    Timely video because RTD is back as showrunner!

  • @sammyy2022
    @sammyy2022 Před 2 lety +40

    this video aged like a fine wine in less than 24 hours

  • @franl155
    @franl155 Před 2 lety +42

    Thanks for this!
    I have seen disparaging references to "EastEnders in space"- but in the Classic series companions existed in a vacuum; no family back on earth, no friends, no ties. They needed grounding in reality, and there needed to be consequences for said family/friends.

    • @alexpotts6520
      @alexpotts6520 Před 2 lety +1

      I use the phrase "Eastenders in space" too, but I don't think it's a bad thing.

    • @franl155
      @franl155 Před 2 lety +3

      @@alexpotts6520 - I don't either; the family connections grounded the show and gave it so much more scope.
      The tone of their comment was definitely not a compliment, in the context of "Thank goodness we've done with EastEnders in space and can get back to proper Doctor Who" - because in "proper Doctor Who" there were never story arcs or consequences.

    • @TheSmart-CasualGamer
      @TheSmart-CasualGamer Před 2 lety +2

      Ace is a hallmark for this for me, as she had a proper backstory that could have worked very well if she was a companion for Nine or Ten, but she just kind of gets dropped in and it's all a bit anticlimactic.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před rokem

      @@TheSmart-CasualGamer Still, she is more badass.

  • @tinykemper2561
    @tinykemper2561 Před 2 lety +5

    RTD: And I'll fucking do it all again

  • @STADATS
    @STADATS Před 2 lety +3

    The thing that I think is best about the worldbuilding of the Davies era is it really invites you to ask questions. I feel like with a lot of sci fi, I come out of it wondering what the characters are doing after the credits. It's fun to think about, but for most things it's just a hypothetical that you know the main show/movie doesn't really care about. By constantly showing the consequences of actions and the aftermath of different events, RTD is really inviting the audience to speculate about the world and characters. It's like he's legitimizing what is normally just seen as nerds being nerds. I love it

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 2 lety

      Why Torchwood never capture the Third Doctor in the 70s.

  • @harrisont2004
    @harrisont2004 Před 2 lety +5

    Thing about Moffat’s Daleks is as much as I adore his portrayal of a “dying” Davros and his relationship with the doctor, the whole bringing back Skaro thing without any explanation (or doing anything without any explanation) is so annoying when you want a cohesive world with dramatic tension. It could have been such an epic revelation and instead it was like “oh the Daleks are back in power now okay.”

    • @intergalactic92
      @intergalactic92 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah, one of my many gripes with that story was the fact that certain character returns were deliberately given no explanation and this was almost played for laughs.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 2 lety +1

      Is because is a mistery. In real world, you never get all the answers

  • @Lenny-ue8hk
    @Lenny-ue8hk Před 2 lety +6

    I never noticed how much I appreciated knowing the state of play when it came to factions like the Daleks and Cybermen. In the RTD era we know how these daleks came to be here and what their whole empire is looking like at that moment from the last time we saw them. With Moffat after their first appearance they're just everywhere with no explanation and there isn't much connection between all the daleks we come across

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 2 lety

      After the paradigm Daleks run away, the Dalek empire reborn. That is, simple.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před rokem

      And the Mondas Cybermen always exist in the main universe.

  • @LiveHedgehog
    @LiveHedgehog Před 2 lety +80

    I'm rewatching and really enjoying the Moffat era right now, but the RTD era will always hold a special place in my heart. It was so popular, and so fun.
    I think I do prefer the aesthetics of the Moffat era - it has my favourite TARDIS interior, exterior, Sonic Screwdriver, and opening titles. But there's something so indescribably comfy about RTD's Who.

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly Před 2 lety +2

      You liked the Moffat era,wow I don’t think I’ve read anyone else write that!
      Two words that make me ill , MATT SMITH! Smith gave silly Doctor vibes like the ones from the classic era
      My favourite Doctors are Christopher Eccleston then Hurt,Tennant,Capaldi and finally Whittaker. .
      From the classic era Jon Pertwee is my favourite. He wasn’t like that clown Tom Baker!!
      Peace and happiness from Dublin 🇮🇪

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 2 lety +4

      Many say that. Nobody cares about the Chibnall era.

    • @RobTFilms
      @RobTFilms Před 2 lety

      He's returning now omg

    • @LiveHedgehog
      @LiveHedgehog Před 2 lety

      @@RobTFilms I know, it's so exciting!

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly Před 2 lety

      @@LiveHedgehog yeah 😒

  • @nintyfanr
    @nintyfanr Před 2 lety +6

    PERFECTLY
    FUCKING
    TIMED

  • @xandercostas1190
    @xandercostas1190 Před 2 lety +7

    The timing of this is insane

  • @fruitchewx127
    @fruitchewx127 Před 2 lety +6

    The timing, I can't

  • @Regina-ys4ct
    @Regina-ys4ct Před 2 lety +8

    I'm surprised you didn't mention:
    "Impactful events"
    An issue I can feel with later series of Doctor Who is that the events didn't feel very impactful, their significance didn't always hit but with Russel, we got an entire episode dedicated to why the Doctor is around and how important it was that he was there...
    Turn Left.
    We got to see not only a political episode, but also one that expands on the Story. It gets boring the Doctor saying he's a bad person or an idiot when everyone around him tells him at every moment of his existence that he's important and great and special and amazing etc.
    But Turn left gets that point across on why the Doctor is important, way more than Name of the Doctor did, seeing people disappear is way less interesting then see an Alternate Universe where everything goes WRONG.

  • @ItsMeHarry
    @ItsMeHarry Před 2 lety +21

    Yvonne Hartman is a true queen, spectacular simpage taste

  • @stevenhale2935
    @stevenhale2935 Před 2 lety +9

    Rewatching this because the hype train for RTD2 IS REAL

  • @charliebowman2379
    @charliebowman2379 Před 2 lety +7

    So gassed that the elements in this video should be returning again in 2023!

  • @elliottclark1340
    @elliottclark1340 Před 2 lety +20

    He really gave the show a nuance that it never really had before, for me at times it felt very much like season 26 (in all the best ways possible). Rtd is such a lovely guy & a genius writer. Great video Mate 👍🏼

    • @Myne1001
      @Myne1001 Před 2 lety

      >"it felt very much like season 26"
      There's a reason why I've seen people say Ace was the spiritual ancestor of Rose Tyler

  • @alextheanimator2395
    @alextheanimator2395 Před 2 lety +6

    GUESS WHOS BAAAAACK!!

  • @10thdoctor15
    @10thdoctor15 Před 2 lety +3

    The other great thing about The Last Sontaran is that not only is it a sequel to The Poison Sky, but Sarah Jane has met the Sontarans twice before, so there are brilliant references to Classic Who.

  • @ashleytuchin7693
    @ashleytuchin7693 Před 2 lety +9

    RTD really doesn't get enough credit for how intricately he planned things out and how rich his world-building was.

  • @david.l8698
    @david.l8698 Před 2 lety +6

    I do hope we get a mini Timelord victorious moment for Jodie like "For a long time being in this body, I tried, I really tried to forget what rage was, loss, anger! Stay true to the words of my last. Run fast, be kind! But it's people like you that make me remember!".
    Don't know who she'd be talking to but I think it'd be a good thing for her Doctors character because so many people didn't like her for basically disregarding the mental state and pure struggle that sometimes accompanies being the Doctor.

  • @Sydders_
    @Sydders_ Před 2 lety +5

    HES COMING BACK NOW

  • @DoinItforNewCommTech
    @DoinItforNewCommTech Před 2 lety +6

    This is one thing I'm really looking forward to with RTD's return.
    Moffat's era was too episodic, the kids Clara nannied never mattered after series 7b, they never explained how she became a teacher, and her family were background characters at best. Same with Amy and Rory. How many jobs did Amy have throughout her tenure? And it never mattered. The 14th Doctor's era will--hopefully--connect with series 1-4, as well as with people and groups Moffat and Chibnall established.
    Chibnall has, in all likelihood, no plans to explore the Timeless Child or the Division. Oh, he'll dump more lore on us (we'll probably see the Doctor's home universe and reveal her actual species), but I have no doubts that's all it'll be. Rusty will take that lore and actually craft it into something that actually MATTERS going forward, because that's what he excels at as a storyteller.

    • @mrdr0161
      @mrdr0161 Před 2 lety +1

      There was actually a line about Amy getting a new job every other week in Power of Three. It just goes to she how non committal she is

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 2 lety +2

      Doctor Who always was episodic, even the classic show.

  • @TFFgeek
    @TFFgeek Před 2 lety +5

    As a writer myself with multiple universes I know how important concistency is and how you need to calculate the influence of things and how even the smallest details can affect things. It can be a pain in the ass to think out, sure, but if you do it right, you can place worldbuilding details that a trained eye/ear will notice.

  • @localloser7415
    @localloser7415 Před rokem +3

    When the world needed him most RTD returned

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před rokem +1

      More gay and woke as ever.

    • @ShamrockParticle
      @ShamrockParticle Před 8 měsíci

      Seriously? Why not a new producer? So far, RTD has just done more of the same but applied to classic era companions and Doctors

  • @hernerwerzog9700
    @hernerwerzog9700 Před 2 lety +15

    Ah how I love your essays! Looking forward to it.

  • @bmvthemoviefanatic7282
    @bmvthemoviefanatic7282 Před 2 lety +6

    HOLY F###!
    Not to take attention from your truly FANTASTIC video, Harbo, but did you hear the news?!
    *RTD HAS RETURNED TO DOCTOR WHO!!!*
    Fricken Unreal!

  • @twilliamspro
    @twilliamspro Před 2 lety +3

    I'd like Luke and Clyde to pop back up
    Maybe they set up an agency in the wake of sarahs death

  • @mc3926
    @mc3926 Před 2 lety +8

    Watching this right after the news of RTD's return makes me so excited for Doctor Who again after a long time of slowly being less excited with it. The next few years are going to be so exciting

  • @rickyblitz9679
    @rickyblitz9679 Před 2 lety +6

    Boy, do I have news for you…

  • @MrFancyDragon
    @MrFancyDragon Před 2 lety +3

    The timing man

  • @drwfigureadventures
    @drwfigureadventures Před 2 lety +10

    What brilliant timing

  • @daughterofkos7911
    @daughterofkos7911 Před 2 lety +8

    Harbo finally wraps up the rtd era
    Rtd - lol jk

  • @ednamode9048
    @ednamode9048 Před 2 lety +11

    Something that the RTD era did that I really loved was create good companions, Rose was the companion who made the doctor feel more human. Martha was independent and a fighter. Donna was hilarious and her ending still punches me in the gut every time I watch it. Now don’t get me wrong, Amy and Rory were brilliant and they are my favorite companions. After that though the companions went down hill, I did like Clara but after her they got so forgettable. The companions make up this show just as much as the Doctor does.

  • @tobexdmasterofjej6363
    @tobexdmasterofjej6363 Před 2 lety +10

    13:51 it's kinda funny at home in germany (expat parents) we have torchwood s1-3 in english dvds but miracle day is a german one, where you have to change the language to english every time you put it in the player, gwen's german voice is really funny though, but german who/ torchwood dubs are really not the best, because they heavily use the formal "sie" instead of the informal "du", when e.g. rose is emotionally talking to the doctor and she says "sie" it really breaks immersion XD

    • @richyclair6201
      @richyclair6201 Před 2 lety +1

      Crazy how dw just took off in Germany. Never had it there when I was a kid and now everyone knows what it is

    • @ladrok97
      @ladrok97 Před 2 lety

      Then I'm glad in Poland we use lektor instead of costly dubb

    • @raindropsandtulips3526
      @raindropsandtulips3526 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes! The use of sie is so weird!

  • @Nutter666
    @Nutter666 Před 2 lety +4

    You're giving me Flashbacks with the old school Runescape music!

  • @ShamrockParticle
    @ShamrockParticle Před 8 měsíci +1

    The planet zog quote is one of the strangest, since sci-fi has endured for decades with audiences did give a toss. The 1963 Dalek story wouldn't have landed otherwise.

  • @mikefine619
    @mikefine619 Před 2 lety +3

    👀 After hearing the news very timely

  • @DS-ce9cf
    @DS-ce9cf Před 2 lety +13

    Even though i love Moffat's era, I hate that he never gives an explanation for a characters return. The Daleks are back in Victory of the Daleks, they win, make the new Paradigm daleks, and then nothing is done with them...they all just appear in Asylum and there's like enough Daleks to destroy the universe and the Doctor does nothing. Missy reappeares with no explanation, the Master as well. The 12th Doctor saves Gallifrey also without any context...

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před rokem

      Because is no need. Just watch adventures in time and space.

  • @MrGreaves
    @MrGreaves Před 2 lety +5

    Hahahaha great timing

  • @mahfuzurchowdhury2765
    @mahfuzurchowdhury2765 Před 2 lety +7

    What are the chances this video came out before the announcement that he's back!

  • @jessicaable5095
    @jessicaable5095 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent timing my dude

  • @emmab4587
    @emmab4587 Před 2 lety

    you're so right. this was just such a cool, epic era and nothing can surpass it in how many tie ins it had to the eventual finale

  • @benpriest9555
    @benpriest9555 Před 2 lety +2

    And he's coming back!!!

  • @TimesFM4532
    @TimesFM4532 Před 2 lety +2

    And he’s back

  • @mr.person4050
    @mr.person4050 Před 2 lety +2

    Perfect timing for a video

  • @capricorn878
    @capricorn878 Před 2 lety +3

    I kind off hated how the big events in London of RTD, had almost never being mentioned after season 4, i would love to see now that the king has return, some throwback to some of this, like being London's history

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 2 lety +2

      Remember when the London Underground was invaded by robot Yetis, or the Dinosaur invasion or the Daleks in the world peace conferency?

    • @capricorn878
      @capricorn878 Před 2 lety

      @@mayotango1317great times, should definitely be memorable in UK history in DW world.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 2 lety

      @@capricorn878 Or the fact that nobody know what a Dalek is in a bunker in Utah in 2012 (Series 1 Dalek episode)

    • @capricorn878
      @capricorn878 Před 2 lety

      @@mayotango1317 its lame, the owner of the internet having so little knowledge about the creature

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 2 lety

      @@capricorn878 Everybody in 2012 know what a Dalek is, even after the 2009 invasion with planets in the sky.

  • @harrisont2004
    @harrisont2004 Před 2 lety +2

    Davies was the king of continuity, tone, audience, pacing, everything. Moffatt had a lot of that - he didn’t have a lot of care for continuity or world-building which irked me (in his defence he did set up a lot of organisations and characters that would return in the Smith Era) but he did have a huge desire for loveable characters and the core themes of the show (goodness, love, decency etc). Chibnall on the other hand… hm… I can see what he’s trying to do but it’s just not quite hitting the mark. I can’t wait for RTD2

    • @lordbuss
      @lordbuss Před 2 lety +2

      Moffat wrote stories that didn't really make sense, but in a very dramatic way that screams "look, this is meaningful and important!", which on the one hand can make you go "oh, cool!" while ignoring the fact the plot doesn't make sense, but on the other hand when you do realize it, the disappointment is very strong. While most of the stories Chubnall writes are just boring. Not sure which is worse.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 2 lety +2

      Moffat write the show like the classic series, more episodic and no continuity.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před rokem

      That why RTD never feel Doctor Who for me. Is so limited and small.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před rokem

      Decency? The Fourth Doctor suck a penis in Creature of the Pit.

  • @littledewdroplets
    @littledewdroplets Před 2 lety +1

    My experience discovering DrWho was so weird precisely because of this. I didn't know Christmas specials were a thing, so I watched the first 3 seasons and the first episode of the fourth without them. in my first watching, I thought they had randomly changed the main actor for some reason, but hadn't explained it for the character. When Donna showed up, they clearly knew each other but I didn't know how or when they had met. RTD made such an interconnected storyline that you have to watch EVERYTHING on his era to understand

  • @samuelkent4674
    @samuelkent4674 Před 2 lety +7

    Little did anyone know Russel t Davies was announced to return as show runner less than 24hrs after this video was released

    • @toast99bubbles
      @toast99bubbles Před 2 lety

      Less than 48 hours you mean. The video was posted on Wednesday.

    • @samuelkent4674
      @samuelkent4674 Před 2 lety

      @@toast99bubbles said 23 hours ago when I commented

    • @toast99bubbles
      @toast99bubbles Před 2 lety

      @@samuelkent4674 The video was made available for people to view on Wednesday in UK time (which is where Harbo is based) and the announcement was Friday UK time.

    • @samuelkent4674
      @samuelkent4674 Před 2 lety

      @@toast99bubbles Jesus Christ it said it was posted 23 hours ago when I commented why do you care so much smh

    • @toast99bubbles
      @toast99bubbles Před 2 lety

      @@samuelkent4674 Because it was literally posted a day before you're claiming it was.

  • @orla8319
    @orla8319 Před 2 lety +3

    Beautifully timed video, considering the news

  • @reubenroper6231
    @reubenroper6231 Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent timing ;)

  • @MRDLT00
    @MRDLT00 Před 2 lety +1

    Dang that little jingle playing between segments is super catchy. Got me doin a little jig whenever it played. XD

  • @ButterInABucket
    @ButterInABucket Před 2 lety +6

    Perfect Timing for a video on RTD X)

  • @richardwilliams5387
    @richardwilliams5387 Před 2 lety +2

    Some of the reactions remind me of those who hate current Star Wars suddenly "remembering" how much they loved the prequels, as in when RTD was originally in charge he got his own "He's ruining the show!" reactions...clearly remember at the time some were complaining his version was too "camp". Etc.

  • @chin70
    @chin70 Před 2 lety +8

    Well, this was a timely video

  • @Fenixion88ZX
    @Fenixion88ZX Před 10 měsíci +1

    Not to forget that they found Yana (The master) because the tardis was trying to shake Jack off itself and took them to the end of the universe, so if the 10th doctor had just waited for jack in the game station it wouldnt have happened

  • @trixiedoll4177
    @trixiedoll4177 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm so so ready for RTD2!!!

  • @Jamescushing51
    @Jamescushing51 Před 2 lety +19

    Well this has certainly aged well!

  • @CloudFreedomFighters
    @CloudFreedomFighters Před 2 lety +11

    How perfectly timed was this?

  • @skywalkerlad2907
    @skywalkerlad2907 Před 2 lety +2

    Did u know something before u uploaded this? What a coincidence

  • @LimeyTherapist
    @LimeyTherapist Před 2 lety +2

    I think this was actually a Collab with the BBC to make people excited for rtd's return

  • @MARVELNerd616
    @MARVELNerd616 Před 2 lety +7

    When’re u starting Series 5? I’m excited to see what u have to say about the best premiere of the show

  • @10thdoctor15
    @10thdoctor15 Před 2 lety

    Superbly summarised! Did you know he was returning?

  • @jaded6530
    @jaded6530 Před 2 lety

    GREAT TIMING MY DUDE

  • @dragonautes321
    @dragonautes321 Před 2 lety +1

    That video made me want to watch Series 1-4 again :-)

  • @vinsmokejadzki7346
    @vinsmokejadzki7346 Před 2 lety +7

    That was a noice Essay.
    Imo I don't really think it's any lesser than the MCU, I'd say it's a bit better causes there was strong connection.
    And MCU fell a bit weak sometimes.

    • @alexpotts6520
      @alexpotts6520 Před 2 lety +1

      MCU was artificial - it took a bunch of characters who already existed in their own worlds, and were intended for those separate worlds, and threw threw together. Whereas the various characters, locations & story arcs of RTD's Who were designed to be part of a cohesive whole from the start.

  • @adamfreddo5703
    @adamfreddo5703 Před 2 lety +1

    That bit at the end of Fiveish Doctors with Russell T is gonna be even funnier now with the news. The guy really did have more to say.

  • @Jug1212Original
    @Jug1212Original Před 2 lety +3

    And because of this video he is now coming back to DW!

  • @shannonigans_
    @shannonigans_ Před 2 lety +1

    WHAT A TIME TO POST THIS

  • @brainfood8971
    @brainfood8971 Před 2 lety +2

    I have an issue with Russell's "Zogs from planet Zog" comment and it's this.
    Luke Skywalker is a boy with telekinetic powers who wields a laser sword and was born on a desert planet in a galaxy far, far away and whose father is a cyborg leader of a galactic empire.
    Aang from Avatar: The Last Airbender was a boy born with the power to control all three elements, basically a god incarnate, who lives in a world where people control the elements and where he was to fight off against an army of people who can control fire.
    Frodo Baggins is a Hobbit who is friends with an Ainur and who lives in a fantasy world completely separated from our world where he has to destroy a ring that belonged to an evil sorceress with an army of Uruk-hai.
    None of these people have lives that are relatable to everyday people, nor do they live in a world that's like ours, but you relate to them because of their emotional connections to people, how they interact with the world around them and how that world created those people.
    Locations do not make relatable characters, it's having...you know...character.

    • @TheSmart-CasualGamer
      @TheSmart-CasualGamer Před 2 lety +2

      That statement has been taken a little out of context over the years. In 2005, a lot of people wouldn't have bothered with Doctor Who as they just thought it was a stupid light kids show that just shows weird aliens and doesn't get into character stuff. To get normal people to watch the show, he had to give them more grounded characters, i.e, ones that wouldn't feel out of place in a sensible program.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 2 lety

      @@TheSmart-CasualGamer The problem is that normal people hate space/fantasy shows. No wonder that those weirdos Tennant/Rose lovers complain about the classic era and moffat era.

    • @altinaykor364
      @altinaykor364 Před 12 dny

      and RTD era showed much more relatable emotions than his successors and those you're trying to excuse ever did

  • @whatskickin5989
    @whatskickin5989 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank goodness he's coming back

  • @beesree39
    @beesree39 Před 2 lety +2

    he's back

  • @Eris123451
    @Eris123451 Před 2 lety +2

    Dr Who wasn't that an old program that the BBC used to make back when people still owned televisions and bought TV licenses ?

  • @loftus4453
    @loftus4453 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video! Loved it!

  • @paigerook2073
    @paigerook2073 Před 2 lety +2

    BBC just announced that RTD will be back as showrunner! Coincidence?

  • @timetraveller07
    @timetraveller07 Před 2 lety +2

    The king is back!!

  • @bitesybengal
    @bitesybengal Před 2 lety +2

    Will you do a ranking of every Davis-Era episode from worst - best episode overall including all the specials?

  • @Qarth56
    @Qarth56 Před 2 lety +2

    I guess the BBC must have watched this.

  • @far_away_rhys
    @far_away_rhys Před 2 lety

    And I can't wait for him to do it again!

  • @SamThatcher234
    @SamThatcher234 Před 2 lety +6

    THE RETURN OF THE KING

  • @21700r
    @21700r Před 2 lety +1

    I consider the Universal Monsters & the Buffyverse good references for early interconnected universes in film & tv, respectively. There were sitcoms & soap operas interweaving much sooner than Buffy, for instance, but Buffy is the earliest example I can find on tv of interlocking narrative connections with long term effects that has become popular, along with the spin-off properties constantly interacting with the original (if you can cite something earlier, or something interesting or obscure, or even just wanna talk about this topic, feel free to leave replies, I'd love to talk more about it and maybe learn something I overlooked)

  • @alexsmith714
    @alexsmith714 Před 2 lety +3

    Harbo where do get all high res images thank you

  • @EmpiresEGG
    @EmpiresEGG Před 2 lety

    AND HE’S BACK

  • @nickb2844
    @nickb2844 Před 2 lety +4

    You have the GREATEST TIMING in the WORLD