Is it really PCIe gen4 riser cable? As you've stated @23:40 one could think so, but I think it's "PCIe4 compatible" or something like this and not entirely PCIe4 so by going with this Intel based build you've dodged the bullet ;)
I switched from NR200P to this case and I love it. Easiest case I’ve ever built in and it’s so sleek and discrete nobody suspects high end gaming components inside.
The official release is December 3rd, 2021. There are a few pre-orders available at Newegg but they are not shipping 'till the end of the year. By that point, an NZXT H1 fire-free edition should be available. Edit: Turns out the release date on Newegg which was 3:12:21 means the 12th of march, I read it wrong bc I am English not American, and read dates the British way.
This was such a great detailed review. Thank you so much! I was already pretty set on getting this case but you pointed out things that I did not see anywhere else. Had me thinking a lot of the parts I'm getting and love that you have the pcpartpicker list already. Instant sub!
Nice build. Fyi, you can pre-route the mobo 8-pin aux power and 24pin primary *under* the mobo before screwing it down (the cables lay between the mobo and the tray in the gap created by the stand-offs. Both cables thenloop around on back and into the top and side to reach their respective connections. At least that's how I did mine. Obviously this is (and was) easier with thinner cables. It eliminates the cables running up the middle of the case between the fans and the components.
Everyone saying the NZXT H1 catches fire. It's the riser cable, manufactured by "winner" which is the main problem. NZXT's response is what made it far worse for them.
Fantastic build fams, this case looks amazing. You have made it harder for me to decide how I want to build my tv pc vr system. Keep up the hard work fams
I really like this case. The vertical layout really appeals to me. I've got an H1 that I've done the nylon screw fix for, but this actually a great alternative. Sadly I'll just have to wait till its readily available.
Honestly, this case is everything that the Phanteks Shift v2 should have been. Just hit the end of the video: those PSU cables (flat ribbon style ones) can be split into their individual strands really easily (if you're careful) - I had to separate the wires on my 24 pin cable (SF600 gold) to get it to lay even remotely tidily in my NR200. Easy mod to do and saved a load of cash on a custom cable.
@@1RaVeN1FTW yeah up against the tempered glass is an odd choice, mesh there would surely improve thermals and also be more fitting given the case name. 🤷♂️
Solid case though I feel the NR200 is still a better no-compromises case for most people; -is 1/2 the price in many regions when you factor in s&h -doesn't require a riser -easy cable routing that doesn't require right angle connectors. This is big for those of us that have HDMI 2.1 cables. -large air cooler support I like the reduced footprint of vertical cases (heck I owned the Velka 7) but I don't see myself switching from an NR200 to this.
@@Kizzster If you look at their facebook or Instagram I believe they said the full mesh would be available in April when someone asked in the comments.
Please, please do an air cooled build with two mesh panels, a NH-L12S or similar and 2x 140mm fans. I think that could be really nice for a gaming focused build with high airflow... but everyone just does aio cooling.
Loved the review, and thanks for this! A couple of questions - With the negative air flow design you've set up, what's your take on dust/cat hair intake situation? I've got 2 dogs, and live in a place where there's a LOT of dust, and concerned that with a negative air flow setup, I'm going to be clogging the system. Any suggestions/thoughts? Also, how good are the meshes at catching dust, and any options for add on dust filters?
When you have the mesh panel on the GPU side and the glass panel on the motherboard side, Does that improve the temps or are they the same? Also I hope they make an all mesh variant!
Interesting layout, is reminiscent but a standing up version of some of those HTPC Silverstone cases that had this side by side layout that was a bit chunkier. This is fine but given the recent, *second* recall of the NZXT H1 I am at this point on the "Please, no more raiser cables, kthxbye" camp even if the companies named here I could probably trust a lot more to not create a fire hazard with it, I like having at least the option of no raiser so I would still probably default to the NR200 since you've got a lot more flexibility for a really not that different size. One option however that I would like to see as an option, is similar to that "No GPU" option but one for a more uncommon configuration: half height PCI-E. It's uncommon but some of the lower end 1050 and 1650 class cards can get away with just a half height GPU and it looks like that would fit nicely. Just some thoughts if the people behind the case get a look, it would go a long way for some of the versatility options available and it doesn't looks like it would involve retooling since you already have a similar accessory present.
I’m looking to do a very similar build, will an sfx psu be able to vent with the glass panel on the cpu side when it’s side mounted like that on the case?
But how is it now nowadays? Is the Meshlicious technically now replaced by the Meshroom S v2? Like there is really no reason to buy the Meshlicious anymore? The outer dimension differences are like 5 mm width, and 10 mm height if I'm not mistaken
Great video and it really helps in deciding my build. Maybe i didnt hear/see it in the video, but where would you mount the 2.5 HD ssd if you mount the gpu downwards? how many can you install that way? I understand mounting the gpu side ways you can use the mount plate for the hard drives(x4 2.5 ssd) .. just dont see anyone mentioning the alternative.
Great video! I have a question: I used the same motherboard/AIO combo in my NR200: Rog Strix Z490-I with a Kraken X63. I ended up having to have the CPU cooler hoses pointing upward because I couldn't get them to fit pointing downward since I didn't remove my M.2 heatsink. Is that not ideal? Would you recommend going the way you did instead?
Don’t feel bad about the gpus mate I feel like a good majority of the people complaining about availability just can’t afford one. Although not the case for everyone, but where I live as long as you have the money for one and just go to your local micro center talk or call ahead and get there when they open on the day the shipment arrives you should definitely be able to get a 3070 or 3060 at least... 3080s are ghosts at this point and don’t exist unless you wanna spend 1300$ US or more lol
Hey GS! Can you please do testing with a 3080 FE? I would love to know how to get the best GPU temp results while using an FE card. Possibly using stand offs to creat more Space between the GPU and MOBO would work? Thank you for the great content!
Hi, i will be doing custom sfx cables for this case. What are the cable lengths do you recommend for the following to optimise the cable management?: 1. 24 pin ATX 2. 4/8 pin ATX 3. 8 Pin PCIE 4. Sata cables Many thanks beforehand!
Great video ... recently discovered this channel for the first time and I love the production quality of your videos. Great work! So I've been eyeballing the Meshlicious case for a few weeks, so this video is well-timed. My question is, if installing a system with a full-length, 2.5-slot GPU, a SFX power supply, and a 240mm AIO, is there physically anywhere to fit a 3.5" HD in the case? I know there's no actual mounting spot for it, but if it fits, I'd try to find a way to mount it. Thanks!
For the pronunciation, I am pretty sure they pronounce it 'Sup-dee'. At least that is how some other tech reviewers I watch have been told to say by them supposedly.
@@GearSeekers I know, just writing it for people who didn't as a regular viewer I have gotten used to your sense of humor! No one could mess up the pronunciation up that bad, can they...
I almost bought this, but it won't fit my 3080 Ti. I did have the Phanteks Shift XT, but I could never get the thermals at a comfortable level, so it was back to the NR200.
I really would love to know how the thermals are with an ATX power supply. When switching from a bigger build to a smaller one that can save over 100 bucks in my case
With the least expensive version being 50% more than the NR200 I'm not sure how much of a destroyer it will be, but it's a nice looking case, if you like mesh.
The least expensive version would go up against the NR200P. The nr200 does not come with a riser cable nor does it come with the glass panel, although it does come with fans.
Not sure it could help, but: I’ve seen some weirded versions of dp on AliExpress: they were freaking low profile. Pretty sure I’ll be able to use them. Good luck in your research!
I wish you could’ve have the gpu placed underneath the mobo, like where the psu is and have the psu behind the mobo, mainly for aesthetics but this way the gpu can breath a lot to be fair and it supports large gpu but still, aesthetics wins me.
With the H1 being a fire hazard, this case is a huge opportunity for the sffpc community. I haven’t built a pc in over 10 years and this one is probably what I will build in next. Looks easy enough for someone like me. E.g. no skills.
really want to switch to this case. but i would have to buy a z390 itx motherboard, sfx power supply, and 2 new sticks of ram on top of the case. would cost about 800$ in total. expensive at the moment
5:48 Connectitty
kitty!
Is it really PCIe gen4 riser cable? As you've stated @23:40 one could think so, but I think it's "PCIe4 compatible" or something like this and not entirely PCIe4 so by going with this Intel based build you've dodged the bullet ;)
I'm dying 🤣
good
@@marcin_karwinski You should probably check the product page mate. The "upgrade version" like the one we featured has an included PCIe 4.0 riser.
I switched from NR200P to this case and I love it. Easiest case I’ve ever built in and it’s so sleek and discrete nobody suspects high end gaming components inside.
what are your thoughts on the thermals compared to the NR200P?
@@ramli1111 Better thermals I think according to the comparisons I've found online so far
Review up just in time for everyone looking at options to replace their H1.
Sadly so. The H1 is beautiful.
The official release is December 3rd, 2021. There are a few pre-orders available at Newegg but they are not shipping 'till the end of the year. By that point, an NZXT H1 fire-free edition should be available. Edit: Turns out the release date on Newegg which was 3:12:21 means the 12th of march, I read it wrong bc I am English not American, and read dates the British way.
@@errorcode503 yeah error per your username
@@kaeknows I suppose you could say Error 404 'correct information not found'
@@errorcode503 The correct way you mean. A fellow Brit.
This was such a great detailed review. Thank you so much! I was already pretty set on getting this case but you pointed out things that I did not see anywhere else. Had me thinking a lot of the parts I'm getting and love that you have the pcpartpicker list already. Instant sub!
Ah yes. The NZXT H1 but it is better but won't catch on fire.
No
Also you don't have to buy the psu and cooler with it.
Thanks for showing and building in that 4 slot layout.
Not everyone did that. 👏👏❤️
Nice build. Fyi, you can pre-route the mobo 8-pin aux power and 24pin primary *under* the mobo before screwing it down (the cables lay between the mobo and the tray in the gap created by the stand-offs. Both cables thenloop around on back and into the top and side to reach their respective connections. At least that's how I did mine. Obviously this is (and was) easier with thinner cables. It eliminates the cables running up the middle of the case between the fans and the components.
The most important question is: Does it spontaneously catch fire?
That's kind of a deal breaker for me…
so far only happened with nzxt h1 riser cable. my phanteks shift air riser cable still working fine and no fire for almost 2 years use.
At least wait Gamers Nexus review for this case.
Everyone saying the NZXT H1 catches fire. It's the riser cable, manufactured by "winner" which is the main problem. NZXT's response is what made it far worse for them.
Fantastic build fams, this case looks amazing. You have made it harder for me to decide how I want to build my tv pc vr system. Keep up the hard work fams
I've been wanting a white case but I like the look of this in black. I also really like the look of that ram!
Great work Nick! I really love your cable management skill. Please teach us!
Came for the Title, stayed for the Cat.
Great case. Absolutely my #1 pick for my future build
the review we've been waiting for
7:15 GPU Support, both MSI Suprim X and MSI Gaming X Trio will fit, photos are on SFFN Forum Thread
Thank you so much! So helpful, I JUST bought the meshlicious case for my first PC build. I am Terrified and this thread is such help.
this is awesome, finally using my headphones instead of phone speakers and can hear how awesome your music sounds, the case looks pretty cool too
Nice reviewer! Lots of details, and everything is very detailed! Take care of yourself !
This is the best preview of this case I have seen so far. I really like it but remember full mesh does NOT mean good airflow!
Tech CZcamsrs with cats.... A world dominating combination.
I would love to see Coolermaster and Corsair collab on a set of cases :D
So glad you got this one in for a review. I have been waiting for more vids to come out on this as I am waiting for my preorder
I really like this case. The vertical layout really appeals to me. I've got an H1 that I've done the nylon screw fix for, but this actually a great alternative. Sadly I'll just have to wait till its readily available.
Honestly, this case is everything that the Phanteks Shift v2 should have been.
Just hit the end of the video: those PSU cables (flat ribbon style ones) can be split into their individual strands really easily (if you're careful) - I had to separate the wires on my 24 pin cable (SF600 gold) to get it to lay even remotely tidily in my NR200. Easy mod to do and saved a load of cash on a custom cable.
Just added a before/after on the cable modding on the "show us ya rig" on discord
The more I see of this case the less I like it. It was kind of love at first sight, but now... I'm not so sure.
I felt the exact same way, especially how the video card is mounted.
@@1RaVeN1FTW yeah up against the tempered glass is an odd choice, mesh there would surely improve thermals and also be more fitting given the case name. 🤷♂️
@@Vanilla_Jo so just swap the panels? PSUs can run slightly hotter
Nice work. Loving the new intro n beats.
Solid case though I feel the NR200 is still a better no-compromises case for most people;
-is 1/2 the price in many regions when you factor in s&h
-doesn't require a riser
-easy cable routing that doesn't require right angle connectors. This is big for those of us that have HDMI 2.1 cables.
-large air cooler support
I like the reduced footprint of vertical cases (heck I owned the Velka 7) but I don't see myself switching from an NR200 to this.
There is just a version with all mesh panels
I’m guessing both preorders come with all mesh panels and one tempered glass panel , the more expensive one just includes a pcie gen 4 riser cable.
That one launches in April.
@@planetxaudio1699 Is this confirmed? I need all mesh + 4.0 riser cable.
@@Kizzster If you look at their facebook or Instagram I believe they said the full mesh would be available in April when someone asked in the comments.
Extra panels are coming soon according to the website
Beautiful case and build looks like it could be a bit of a puzzle with cable management
Was waiting on you for this!!
Please, please do an air cooled build with two mesh panels, a NH-L12S or similar and 2x 140mm fans. I think that could be really nice for a gaming focused build with high airflow... but everyone just does aio cooling.
So if we want glass on CPU side, would you recommend mounting the power supply with fan facing in? Is that possible?
But how about a PSU with RGB fan? 🤔 Will it survive with the glass panel??
Yes it's possible to mount fan in and what you should do if you're using the TG on that side.
@@SpaceShipDee awesome, thanks for the reply!
Nice build. MSI RTX 3090 gaming x trio fits aswell.
Nobody gonna talk about that adorable cat?
Loved the review, and thanks for this! A couple of questions - With the negative air flow design you've set up, what's your take on dust/cat hair intake situation? I've got 2 dogs, and live in a place where there's a LOT of dust, and concerned that with a negative air flow setup, I'm going to be clogging the system. Any suggestions/thoughts? Also, how good are the meshes at catching dust, and any options for add on dust filters?
Nice review ! Thank you.
What a brilliant design. It looks so easy to build. Access from every side.
Do you think an Arctic 280 AIO fits in ?
When you have the mesh panel on the GPU side and the glass panel on the motherboard side, Does that improve the temps or are they the same? Also I hope they make an all mesh variant!
It's the same but you're choking the PSU
sick video, thank you! can't wait for mine to come in, just preordered!
Really love these SFF cases that no one can buy
Full mesh version and white version will be avaible in a few months.
Cant wait to get this.goodbye H1
Interesting layout, is reminiscent but a standing up version of some of those HTPC Silverstone cases that had this side by side layout that was a bit chunkier. This is fine but given the recent, *second* recall of the NZXT H1 I am at this point on the "Please, no more raiser cables, kthxbye" camp even if the companies named here I could probably trust a lot more to not create a fire hazard with it, I like having at least the option of no raiser so I would still probably default to the NR200 since you've got a lot more flexibility for a really not that different size.
One option however that I would like to see as an option, is similar to that "No GPU" option but one for a more uncommon configuration: half height PCI-E. It's uncommon but some of the lower end 1050 and 1650 class cards can get away with just a half height GPU and it looks like that would fit nicely. Just some thoughts if the people behind the case get a look, it would go a long way for some of the versatility options available and it doesn't looks like it would involve retooling since you already have a similar accessory present.
I’m looking to do a very similar build, will an sfx psu be able to vent with the glass panel on the cpu side when it’s side mounted like that on the case?
But how is it now nowadays? Is the Meshlicious technically now replaced by the Meshroom S v2? Like there is really no reason to buy the Meshlicious anymore? The outer dimension differences are like 5 mm width, and 10 mm height if I'm not mistaken
I like this case, but the NR200 gives you more options for mounting your hardware.
Good to know, just ordered the white NR200 👌
really excited for this case!
Great video and it really helps in deciding my build. Maybe i didnt hear/see it in the video, but where would you mount the 2.5 HD ssd if you mount the gpu downwards? how many can you install that way? I understand mounting the gpu side ways you can use the mount plate for the hard drives(x4 2.5 ssd) .. just dont see anyone mentioning the alternative.
Didn't see you using those tweezers too much in the build! Cheers mate
Now I wanna build an petite pc :(((( Damn beautiful build guys !!!
Hey at least it doesn't burn my house down. When will this be available worldwide? Only see the U.S for March.
All the builds I've seen in this so far use SFX power supplies. Would love to see how much of a downer it is to use an ATX in it.
Positive pressure increasing the CPU temps makes no sense whatsoever
Great video! I have a question: I used the same motherboard/AIO combo in my NR200: Rog Strix Z490-I with a Kraken X63. I ended up having to have the CPU cooler hoses pointing upward because I couldn't get them to fit pointing downward since I didn't remove my M.2 heatsink. Is that not ideal? Would you recommend going the way you did instead?
To use the FE cars you just need a standoff mod, push the pci-e connector 20 mm out. I did that and my 3080 Ti FE gets 69 degrees under load @ 315W
Don’t feel bad about the gpus mate I feel like a good majority of the people complaining about availability just can’t afford one. Although not the case for everyone, but where I live as long as you have the money for one and just go to your local micro center talk or call ahead and get there when they open on the day the shipment arrives you should definitely be able to get a 3070 or 3060 at least... 3080s are ghosts at this point and don’t exist unless you wanna spend 1300$ US or more lol
Love it as usual
Where do we get to see the winner of the gigabyte card you had going on????
We announced it in twitter a week ago.
Tall GPU's are tough to fit. The PCI-E power cables go right into the fan blades! Luckily you used a short GPU.
Hey GS! Can you please do testing with a 3080 FE? I would love to know how to get the best GPU temp results while using an FE card. Possibly using stand offs to creat more Space between the GPU and MOBO would work? Thank you for the great content!
I don't have one sorry :(
Thank you for this video. I pre-ordered for the release on the 9th.
Hi, i will be doing custom sfx cables for this case. What are the cable lengths do you recommend for the following to optimise the cable management?:
1. 24 pin ATX
2. 4/8 pin ATX
3. 8 Pin PCIE
4. Sata cables
Many thanks beforehand!
did you plug in the front I/O? I've been trying to track down what sort of connecter the Front USB-C has internally.
Ssapd, i think that how to call it. As always, great built and good review from you. But why you using cooler master as PSU and put TG in GPU side?
If you watched the video you'd know why ;)
Great video ... recently discovered this channel for the first time and I love the production quality of your videos. Great work!
So I've been eyeballing the Meshlicious case for a few weeks, so this video is well-timed. My question is, if installing a system with a full-length, 2.5-slot GPU, a SFX power supply, and a 240mm AIO, is there physically anywhere to fit a 3.5" HD in the case? I know there's no actual mounting spot for it, but if it fits, I'd try to find a way to mount it.
Thanks!
(included) Secondary mesh panel will be an option on the next launch
OK fine, I'll get one. Will wait for white though.
For the pronunciation, I am pretty sure they pronounce it 'Sup-dee'. At least that is how some other tech reviewers I watch have been told to say by them supposedly.
Yeah I was clearly making a joke for people to comment. Look's like it worked 🤣
@@GearSeekers I know, just writing it for people who didn't as a regular viewer I have gotten used to your sense of humor! No one could mess up the pronunciation up that bad, can they...
Any idea when/where it will be available in Australia?
I almost bought this, but it won't fit my 3080 Ti. I did have the Phanteks Shift XT, but I could never get the thermals at a comfortable level, so it was back to the NR200.
At that price and at that CPU cooler height, this ain't destroying the NR200...
I really would love to know how the thermals are with an ATX power supply. When switching from a bigger build to a smaller one that can save over 100 bucks in my case
from what I see there's no support for 2.5" and 3.5" drives at all if you're using a full length graphics card. is that correct?
Meshlicious by Lian Li and SSUPDAWG. It has all the connectitty.
I HAVE A QUESTION: If you have one of those long form factors GPUs do you still have place for 2.5 SSDs and HDDs ?
Can you use a third party riser cable? I feel like I get a gen4 one and it'd be cheaper overall
really liked the case man, wish it was cheaper.
With the least expensive version being 50% more than the NR200 I'm not sure how much of a destroyer it will be, but it's a nice looking case, if you like mesh.
The least expensive version would go up against the NR200P. The nr200 does not come with a riser cable nor does it come with the glass panel, although it does come with fans.
Do right angle displayport cable angled downwards instead to the side fit without issues? Considering this case but I have three monitors.
Not sure it could help, but: I’ve seen some weirded versions of dp on AliExpress: they were freaking low profile. Pretty sure I’ll be able to use them. Good luck in your research!
Hi keep it up love the vids
After changing the internal layout to a 4 slots gpu, there still room to routing the tube of the aio behind the power supply (sfx) ?
I wish you could’ve have the gpu placed underneath the mobo, like where the psu is and have the psu behind the mobo, mainly for aesthetics but this way the gpu can breath a lot to be fair and it supports large gpu but still, aesthetics wins me.
Giving Bindi a shout out! She's showing us where pc parts go in that case. Cheers Bindi! :D LOL
I really like this case. Where should I go to research how build with it?
Love the intro man 😂
Any chance, you make a video adding 150mm, 175mm and 200mm psu atx psu with a different radiators? 120, 240, 280 etc? thanks.
Man, why can't the power butoon & usb ports be on the front panel? Being at the top it will be awkward sitting it flat.
Extra panels mesh/glass coming soon according to website. and even right angle DP and HDMI
That case is really meshlicious
Will be a good NR200 replacement if it is available worldwide
How did you get your fans to light up with out using the nzxt hub
Can you puts the aio fans in the front in front of the aio so that the egg is visible through the mesh or is it bad for thermals
The website mentions there is space for 2 2.5" ssds with a big gpu installed, can you confirm this? The case looks packed already.
What about dust filters? Does it come with the Dust filters? what are thermals like with Dust filters on?
Is this case available anywhere at the time of this viewing? 5/31/21
Hey, you said 315mm max for GPU length but their website claims 344mm?
With the H1 being a fire hazard, this case is a huge opportunity for the sffpc community. I haven’t built a pc in over 10 years and this one is probably what I will build in next. Looks easy enough for someone like me. E.g. no skills.
If I'm not mistaken I think it supports up to 330mm length gpus you can shift the bracket farther down.
The issue is you cannot plug anything in
You can buy a second mesh panel for $30USD
can I transfer my NR200 internals to this case without changing any part?
really want to switch to this case. but i would have to buy a z390 itx motherboard, sfx power supply, and 2 new sticks of ram on top of the case. would cost about 800$ in total. expensive at the moment
Does the radiator placement matter? Tubes on top or bottom ?