How old is too old for programming
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Hi Aivars. Another great video. I thought I would share a story about a coworker I met at a large Fortune 500 company. He was hired along side me as a development lead and was 50 years old. He had spent his entire adult career as a Radio DJ and didn’t pick up development until very late into his career. He started as a front end developer for a small consulting company and eventually developed a very niche skill set that is in high demand at larger companies (Salesforce Marketing Cloud). He is doing very well and is considered the subject matter expert at his company in his field.
Like you have mentioned, most employers (at least from what I have seen) tend to like older applicants as they are more mature, have more experience, and are potentially more relatable. Hiring managers are typically in the 30s-50s, and like to have someone in the same age range from a social standpoint. I will reinforce Aivars comments and mention that I have been apart of dozens of hiring committees hiring junior, senior, architects, etc and not once has a candidate ever been too old (too young is another thing).
Age discrimination will always be a thing unfortunately, but no matter your age, it is my opinion that confidence is a key factor in presenting yourself to an employer. Confidence in your skills and your ability to learn and adapt in a new environment will take you very far. While impostor syndrome can be a very scary thing, it is important to remember that everyone around you is just a human too that learned programming just like you did. We are all googling things every day, and we all stare at our screen for hours on end for stupid mistakes.
If for some reason there are some other young/young-looking freelancers reading this that are battling the flip side of this conversation, I should just mention that it never gets easy (especially as the amount of zoom calls increase during the pandemic). I am constantly told that I look too young but at the end of the day, if you have the skills to back up what you were hired for, there will never be an issue. If you run into employers that don’t respect you simply because of your age, I promise you that there are other problems at that company and you don’t want to work there anyways.
Very interesting input. Specialization and niching down to some specific skills help a lot in freelancing as well, but I'm sure you know that.
Cach 21 is another side of age discrimination and I heard about that quite a lot in social networks. The first job in the industry is the hardest one and older applicants have at least work and life experience advantages here.
Found your keyboard video and started checking out your other content and this definitely spoke to me. I'm over 40, I started writing code in my 20's but didn't take it seriously until my 30's when a major life change forced me to become the head of my household. I'm now in my 40's and have been a corporate CTO, lead developer, senior product designer, and worked for some amazing companies in my now 10+ year long career. You should never give up on working towards your goals and building a future for yourself, no matter the age. Great video, again! Loving this content thus far.
Great input as always, thanks for sharing this with us. The 30s for sure can't be named as "too late" to start almost any carrier except maybe professional athlete :)
Inspiring! Thank you for sharing!
I've been an IT technician in my early twenties and in the military in my mid-twenties. Changed cities and was in the telecommunications market as a technical and support adviser. I've also been installing fiber optics by day, while studying multimedia by night, in my end twenties.
Early thirties I went back to customer and technical support. Mid-thirties I was a restaurant owner. Age 37 I became a mountain guide. Right now, age 38 I'm a personal trainer, strength and conditioning, nutritional coach who's getting back into tech to become a computer engineer/web dev/ programmer, but I'll still be working on the other fields I'm passionate about.
There are no limitations, only the ones in the mind. Whatever you want in life, go for it. It's not going to be roses all the time, but it will be damn worth it!!!!
Really great insight! There is no other limits but our own plans and will to achieve them 💪
In my 40s and learning to code. Makes me feel so stupid sometimes that’s not even funny. Whatever though. Not stopping.
:D I feel you. I'm in the same boat as you. I have to say that that feeling does not go away latter on the road as well, everyone runs into new problems while learning and working as a programmer.
@@AivarsMeijers And impostor syndrome can also be challenging to overcome, even as you establish yourself in your career. I felt stupid too, and still do, and it's my full time career. The best advice I've ever received was from a fellow high-level developer living in Los Angeles, working for one of the most well-known companies in the world. He said if a day goes by where he doesn't get stumped by something, or has a difficult time doing a task, than he didn't work hard enough that day. In other words, it's a challenging industry and even the best of us need to solve problems. Stick with it, and you will make progress. I'm glad I did, it made my career and literally changed my life.
@@AivarsMeijers same here , landed my first job at 37 , now I work remote for 2 companies in USA . Still feel like I am out of time and I suffer from Imposter Syndrome
Inspiring. Thank you!
I really appreciate your videos. Your attitude towards life and change is inspiring and after hearing your stories, I feel that following a new career path is somehow less scary and more doable. Thank you!
Love the Gediminas Square! Thanks Aivars for great and inspiring videos!
Thanks for watching!
I love your videos. Awesome. All the questions I have in my mind you address them. Thanks
Awesome, thank you!
Thanks for this video, very helpful 🙂
You’re welcome 😊
The kids scooter video clip to explain experienced vs not-experienced developer was hilarious.
Age is just a number. Young people may learn quickly, old people will take some more hours. But at the end if one is focused, he will make it.
Masako Wakamiya story is truly an inspiring story.
Every age has its own benefits, but so far I see that I'm smarter every year, will see how long that will be so :D
The kid was ok, he was up and trying again in a moment, I also that found funny for illustration :)
Masako Wakamiya is pure legend, hope to have shes energy and curiosity at that age.
44 here and learning to code mobile apps trying to make an idea I have for an app a reality, still working for over 20 years for a company doing other things but I really hope I can move to full developer job. Give me a year and I let you know how this go. I don't feel old to do the job, but I'm fighting the frustration when I see the great apps other people make. Great channel. Keep the videos coming.
Yeah, with great altitude you can achieve a lot in a year. Good luck and patience working toward your goals!
43 and started learnig. In 2018 I had some hobby success in C++, when I created a program with zero knowledge on programming (it can be found on my CZcams videos [Fruit Squeezer]). As I look at this program now, I have no idea how did I do this. But I did. It is not a matter of age. I don't feel that it can be too late to learn something new. Maybe it is harder to find time for it, because od a day job, kids, etc. Because of that I plan to use your advice Aivars, and start my day at 4.30. Greetings from Poland.
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I just turned 61 and I’m enjoying the thoughts and comments that you put into this video. I really love using computers I’ve always been amazed by it I build my own one of these days I hopefully build a hacking Tosh but really I want to get into programming and I’ve been thinking about python a friend of mine who works in the industry told me it was one of the most popular and it’s not too hard to learn I’m going to give it a shot wish me luck. And great video .. thanks
Basics off almost any modern programming are not hard, just pick one and start. If you have friend who can help with advise, pick one what he knows.
@@AivarsMeijers Python, will be my first venture.
Your video reminded me of a video game I used to play as a child (Super Mario RPG) where there was a town designed specifically to book and hold weddings called Marrymore, lol
Vilnius on the weekend was Marrymore for sure :D
My grandparents were from Lithuania. I never got the chance to visit. Seems beauttiful.
I'm 28, don't feel "too old" to nothing.
How long took you to get your first job on programming?
Yes, Lithuania is nice. Latvia is about the same, but with a bit more beach side.
I have a whole video here about getting into programming, I was on and off with it so can't say exact time.
If your grandparents were from Lithuania you can get a Lith passport and move in to try it out properly;)
I started 2 months ago,I'm 30 years old.
I have a query for you? How did you learn to code? I mean with online courses or reading books?
Mostly online courses and tutorials, but I buying some books periodically as well.
@@AivarsMeijers thanks!
Hey Aivars do we need to know data structure and Algorithms to become a ios/android developer?
No, you don't need to learn them to build a mobile app, but knowledge can be helpful if you will get into a whiteboard interview.
I already forgot everything that was learned about them in university.
@@AivarsMeijers Thanks
Aivars, was hoping you'd say "never too late!"...and if at that 84 year old lass can do it!...anyway, good insights.
I guess 84 is very close to "never too late" If I will be able to pick so challenging skills as learning my self to program in 80+, I will be proud AFK :)
At least now you know a good place to move to start a wedding photographer career. ) I like this video, inspiring and entertaining, as always.
:D Right, right.
I doubt I would ever would like to start that career. Photographed one wedding for the friend and now know that that is not easy job at all. It was going well, but not sure that I would like to spend every summer weekend like that.
I'm 38 and I start learning python to get a Data Analytics job.
I don't feel old. Just need to work hard to get this objective done.
Everyone should work hard to achieve results. Keep pushing and you will get whenever you like to be in carrier
I know a man from Quora who is already like 87 years old, yet he still keeps going on as a programmer :) Cheers
Impressive! I hope I will bet like that in my 87 as well.
HELLOO SIR .. M ACTUALLY DOING IOS APP DEVELOPEMENT COURSE AND I FIND IT REALLY INTERESTING .. I M PURSUING MY BTECH AND THIS IS MY LAST YEAR AND I HAVE STARTED IT NOW.. I DNT THINK THAT AGE WOULD BE ANY RESTRICTION TO LEARN IOS DEVELOPEMENT..
Can't disagree :)
Good video as usual. Thank you and hope you not switch to wedding photographer 😱
😂 no, no, will stick to programming for bit more. Photo & video are just hobbies