Behringer 2600 - Quick Tips Tutorial 2 - CV Gate with Korg SQ1
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- čas přidán 27. 02. 2021
- Hello and welcome to another quick tip video for the Behringer 2600.
I would like to share some tipps and ideas about connecting the 2600 to sequencers and modular gear using it’s CV and Gate jacks and how to use the envelopes independently.
Hope you enjoy the video and find it helpful.
All Tutorials: • Tutorials 2600 - Hudba
Good god I had no idea the Arp 2600 was this crazy.
So now I know, ignore the manual, also ignore the lines/arrows on the machine and find a synth geezer. Thanks a ton man.
Thanks for this informative video. I was having problems with gating the ADSR. Watched a few other videos but none of it worked. I am using a Division 6 Dual Mini Sequencer and thought that was the issue. I was narrowing it down to a gate issue and now I finally have that resolved. I also have an SQ-1 and I'll start trying theses techniques with that.
Thanks for the tips for the first time I was able to get my Korg 64 in action . Even though not sounding so hot I at least got the format to begin. Thanks
Really good info! Thank you!
Great videos! Really learning a lot. Keep them coming.
Could you do a video about your drum patch and how to use the electric switch to make pseudo beat sequences?
Thanks.
What I like about your video's is the great transparency. Its clear what you are doing and how you build up things. Not a lot of equipment, thats nice too! Just two or three devices. And also is clear the way you use and connect the devices and the patch cables. Nice. At last that is what we want to know. Too ofen on UT there is in other video's a gap between set up and the end result. "But how?? WTF??", I am asking myself. I can't follow this! "Hello!! I'am a beginner!!" Although that kind of video's are very impressive (with lots of equipment), but they are more showy than educational. More a sort of smart and handy kids: "look at me! "
Do you know what I mean?
The way you do it is far more interesting, because its clear what you do and how you do it and told in an easy tempo. I love it, because I can try and practice what you are showing us, step by step. So keep on doing this good en great work. From this video's of you I learn a lot! And now I'm having fun and success. An example for everyone! In the contrary: from the video's of the 'fast guys' I always get very frustrating: "come on guy, show me step by step!" Or "what are you exactly doing?"
So thanks a lot man!
that korg SQ 1 is killer. I must get one! great tutorial. I just got my 2600 and am still figuring out a lot of aspects.
@@holygeneration7 I got the black basic version, and it cost about $650 US. I'm still learning it (I'm reading the manual now) but already it is amazing. It is really versatile and you can get amazing sounds from it. It is really 3 monophonic synths in one . I have connected it to my Soma Pulsar 23 to each other and it is so insane! With just those 2 machines, you can cover all the basses and get unbelievable sounds. I'll post a vid of it today and post the link here
@@holygeneration7 The only difference with they Grey Meanie is that the latter has an ANALOG spring reverb, with a much longer delay time (about 3 times the length of the digital reverb present on the standard black version).
I think the Blue Marvin also has the same reverb of the Grey Meanie.
Excactly the kind of info i needed. Mercy for sharing this.
Excellent! Thank you. Western Australia.
Wish I'd seen your vids when I 1st got my Gray Meanie. Behringer should point people your way. Excellent tutorials. Thank you.
Thanks a lot!
Veeeeeeeeeeeeery good info!!!! ty!!
InstaBlaster.
Cool 👍
Perfect.
Great tutorials!
Can you please go over how you made your drum patch?
Thanks
You can see the patch connections in the video. Basically one sequence is triggering the bassdrum sound and the other one is triggering the noise (used as a snare) going thru the ringmod (which was used as a VCA).
@@tomnoise23 great! Thanks I’ll give it a try.
: )
Thanks for a great video
Great videos, man! Please keep making those!! Question: Which patch cables do you recommend and which length? Do I spot yours as Hosa 45cm or longer?
Thanks for your nice comment! Right, I have a few from hosa, but many others as well. I would suggest mainly lengths of 20 to 60 cm and a few longer ones as well for connecting to other gear. Also a handful of stacked cables from tiptop audio and one or two black market monomults won’t hurt.
Thank you.
I followed you along in hooking up my SQ1 to my Behringer 2600 and actually got it working.
I am still curious though why I did not have to connect CV B Gate out to the 2600?
Thanks for a good video.
@@petercane6376 thanks for your comment! It’s just example patches in that video. There isn’t really a rule which gate to use from the SQ1. My aim was to explain the concept and functionality. Happy patching!
@@tomnoise23
Thanks for your reply.
I am very new to this but in reality quite old in age!
I was assuming because the SQ1 has Two CV gates we had to use them both but clearly one Gate does it.
Maybe the other gate was to patch it with another synth?
Would that be a good guess?
@@petercane6376 Sorry, I am not sure if I understand your question or what you’re referring too - can you point to a time stamp in the video!
@@tomnoise23
Its okay. I have worked it out.
I enjoyed your video very much. Thank you.
Great video series-helping so much! Any chance you could do a quick vid on how you made the Rezz sound?
Cheers! That Rez lead sound patch can be seen in the „Rezinger“ Video I made. It’s the still picture of that video. Basically it’s a saw tooth with a fixed note going through the VCF with resonance. The Filter Frequency is following the kb tracking to pick out the overtones which form the melody. A little distortion is then provided by the external input and mixed parallel with the vcf out to the vca.
@@tomnoise23 awesome, thanks so much for making these!
Hi, great info, are you syncing your sq1 with your daw? I am having issues with this, thanks
i thought b2600 can use 5v or 12v? i want to trigger with my sh101...
I can't get the SQ-1 gates to trigger the envelopes. It's on positive polarity (tried negative too), all the steps are lit and the sequencer is running. When I insert either gate A or B into the S/H CLOCK input on the 2600 it gives a single gate, then nothing. The manual trigger on the 2600 works fine. The CV outs are working fine. Both A and B are set to 8V. Any idea what I['m doing wrong?
Maybe a dumb question, but the switch at the clock input on the 2600 is set accordingly?
I know this is old video but I was hoping your still answering questions. I have a SQ-1 but according to Kong they don't have a fix for the USB driver for Windows 10. Do you have a solution or work around to obtain a driver that would allow windows to recognize the SQ-1? I purchased it over a month ago and it is useless without the driver, no way to sync it to my DAW. Thanks for any advice.
I am sorry but I’m not able to help on this topic. I am on a mac.
Just found this, maybe it helps: support.korguser.net/hc/en-us/articles/115004269166-Windows-is-unable-to-recognize-a-USB-MIDI-device-
If you have an MPC could you please show how to use it with a 2600?
I am sorry but I don’t have an MPC.
is this any help ? czcams.com/video/HkVtK1Ele_I/video.html
Hello, great video! I wanted to ask if you know, is it possible to send the VCOs to an external EG module and have it send back into the VCA? I’m sorry if it’s a dumb question, I’m rather new to semi-modular/modular stuff.
Hello Max. So, is this correct? you want to trigger an envelope generator by a VCO of the 2600? Sure you can do that. Then you want to send the output of the envelope to the VCA of the 2600? Sure, also possible. The VCA has both Audio and Control inputs. Just wondering what would be the purpose.
@@tomnoise23 hello! Thank you for the reply! The reason I ask is because I’ve got a key step pro, and thought it would be cool to get some different envelopes for each voice going. Also because the key step pro has 4 sequencing lanes. Main reason I asked is because of setting up a separate sequence for each vco, and my problem being that I can’t get sound to produce for a singlular VCO(each VCO KBCV being sent to a individual sequence on key step pro) under the VCA part of final mixer, and they only work when I use the VCF in mixer section(which drones other VCOs as well forever), and I understand you can use the toggle where the S&H is, but problem with that route for me is that when I hit a key, it will then trigger the envelope for all the VCOs, rather than whatever singular VCO I’m trying to trigger by itself. I’m sorry if I described it poorly, Sweetwater actually has a demo with keystep pro and in video they send each VCO to its own sequencing lane, the time stamp is 23:15, and in the video from what I can tell is that he’s using the VCF in mixer section, but I’d love to try and do the 3 separate voices route with some different envelopes and no group triggering, as well as the problem drone from the VCF end of mixer. Also thank you a lot for the reply, I’ve been watching your arp 2600 videos for weeks, and they’ve been awesome, thanks for the great info. Hope I wasn’t too confusing, apologies if so.
@@tomnoise23 maybe this question makes more sense, is there a way to send the VCF to the envelope generator to gate the VCF, so that I can have VCF turned up on mixer without it droning?
@@nunyabissnas You`re welcome. Did you check the Quick Tips 1 Video i made for stopping the drone?
Ah wait, i think i am getting it. So essentially you want have more than one voice out of the 2600. Well, without a bit of extra VCAs it`s not possible imo. But what you could do is to use 1 or two oscillators (CV1) to create a voice which can be played by cv and gate, using only one of the envelope generators(Gate1).
Then you create a second Voice with another oscillator (played by CV2), sending to the Ring Mod input in DC mode (this way it will act like a VCA) and the other Envelope (triggered by Gate 2) output to the other RingMod input. At the output of the RingMod you`ll have the second voice. I think a third voice with Gate on/off is not possible without extra VCAs.
As far as i`m aware, the Keysetp Pro doesn`t have Envelopes or VCAs, just CV and Gate Outputs - if i`m not mistaken?
Thank you for this video.
I have one question:
I tried to apply it to a more complicated setting
connecting at the same time SQ1 to 3 devices:
1/ MIDI connected to a keyboard
2/ CV / gate to a Moog Werkstatt
3/ CV / gate to the B2600 ?
I tried, and it didn't work,
either it's not possible for the SQ1 to "mukti-task" and i am asking it too much
or I made a mistake in my connections
You mean, the SQ-1 as a midi to cv/gate converter?
@@tomnoise23 not exactly, I was hoping to be able to use SQ1 as a sequencer for 3 different devices at the same time, maybe it's not possible
@@alainszyller615 Hm, not sure but I guess that the midi out is not independent from cv/gate
@@tomnoise23 yes, that what i also suspected. Thank you.
So I noticed that if I try to "split' the gate that I am using for the AR to send to the ADSR gate and trigger it doesn't work as expected. Thoughts and/or clarifications? Thanks.
Where does your gate signal come from? It needs to be higher than about 6 Volts to trigger the ADSR. If it’s too low then you can try to boost it with the voltage processor.
@@tomnoise23Thanks for the quick reply. I am using a Division 6 Dual Mini sequencer. I can't find the specs on the gate voltage for that unit. Waiting on a reply to a support email. In the mean time I will try the voltage processor. Would I use it on the gate or trigger or both?
@@RonaldFigura You can just use the gate signal and split it after the VP. But note the inverted voltage, you’ll need to invert it again.
If you want to trigger both envelopes at once, you can also use the S/H Clock labeled input at the AR.
When sending cv/gate to the 2600 from the SQ1, is it possible to then transpose the seq by sending a midi note to the 2600?
Yes, just add the Kyb CV to the sequence cv with the voltage processor.
@@tomnoise23 thanks - but that’s using cv from a keyboard, not midi? Or have I misunderstood you?
@@labouch I was talking about midi. The Kyb CV has an output on the 2600 which you can use. Oh, actually it’s two outputs in duo voice mode.
And keep in mind these inverted outputs of the vp mixer
@@tomnoise23 I understand now - thanks Tom.
How do you record the sequence in time with. your track? im using logic, I got it synced but it doesn't sound good, not the same as just cv
Logic and midi clock doesn’t work well for me too. It’s a bit shaky. For some reason Ableton Live works much better when sending Midi Clock here.
@@tomnoise23 Ok Thank you 🙏
You might not be trying to sound like Rez at 5:00 but damn if it’s not close and given Rick Smith said it was an ARP not the often thought OSCar this just adds to that even more!
Good spot! tbh. that track was meant as an hommage to "rez" because i love that song so much. It`s part of my younger years as a DJ.
czcams.com/video/rLGMrV3NhFk/video.html
Ah! Was it made with the 2600 then?
@@gunark Yes, all sounds from the Behringer 2600.
Hye
You can use differents cv séquences but could you used 2 differents gate?
How do this?
You could use the Ringmodulator in CV Mode as a VCA for a second gate signal.
@@tomnoise23 thanks so much for that. Could you explain me the patch to do for that.
Thanks a lot
@@cbass909 Sorry - that's a bit hard to explain because there are multiple ways to do this. You might want to check out another video i did, which explains how to use the Ringmod as VCA. czcams.com/video/TQbE4m8JAbU/video.html
Also there are some other excellent videos on youtube, maybe check out Starsky Carr's channel as well.
@@tomnoise23 Hye @t. noise.
Thanks a lot for the link, it was in my list.
And thanks for your help and your video
@@cbass909 I made a new video on the topic: czcams.com/video/8oe27fP0m7I/video.html
Will this work with an Arturia Beatstep?
The Beatstep works for sequencing as well. But it only has one pair of cv / gate outputs so it’s not as flexible in that regard
Is it a systeme to play duo without the duo fonction ?
Hi, not really! It’s just some ideas how to connect an analog sequencer
My man TNoise
3.5 mm cables?
yes
It would help if you explained what is going on in each of the examples...not just "playing the filters".
When I made the video I thought that together with the picture it’s self explanatory. But thanks for the feedback, will keep this in mind for a next one.