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The 10th Doctor and Donna are coming back!
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
- Arguably the most popular Doctor and companion team of the entire revived series of Doctor Who are coming back in 2023 for the 60th anniversary special. This is huge news for fans, a big play by Russell T. Davies, and it's got the fandom talking. So let's talk about what RTD might be up to and my thoughts on it.
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NOTE - I'm WELL aware that this video is already out of date. Working on another one to follow up ASAP.
AND I know I misspoke when I said Matt Smith never worked with RTD, because he was in an RTD penned episode of The Sarah Jane Adventures.
My video on the issue of the BBC's support of Transphobia: czcams.com/video/aN4uc0HZrWE/video.html
Shaun's 1st video, which includes some additional confirmed information: czcams.com/video/b4buJMMiwcg/video.html
Shaun’s 2nd video, which follows how the BBC is trying to dodge accountability for all of this: czcams.com/video/qfjTG6SVjmQ/video.html
Shaun’s recent 3rd video: czcams.com/video/fRn1UZ4fhdE/video.html
Laura Kate Dale's recent protest speech outside the BBC offices: czcams.com/video/hBjGnWkwAjI/video.html
And although Capaldi didn't work with RTD, the director seen at Camden has done all of Capadi's finale so there is a connection
"Davies stop messing with me" you shouldn't have challenged him
@@insert-name-here3651 Capaldi did actually work with RTD in torchwood: children of earth. Obviously not as the doctor though.
Love love love this outfit! Please, no spoilers on if we’re getting a follow-up suit for the follow-up video! 🤩
@@roro-mm7cc he was also in Fires of Pompeii with 10 and Donna :)
I really hope they get Peter back because that banter between him and Donna could be amazing
Especially since he also played Cassius
Oh that would be awesome!
"Listen, Space Scot!"
I would like to see how he would interact with Smith and Tennett. I think it could be a very interesting dynamic.
That couldn’t happen cause David and Catherine Tate’s stuff by the official announcement aren’t part of the actual special itself it sounds like they are doing a short connected to it sort of like night of the doctor
My dream would be if Jodie's regeneration went wrong and they were divided among different prior versions of themselves. Then we could have doctors 8 to 12 in these specials. Then, in the end, we get the new doctor. 60 years, 6 doctors.
love this
I've been suggesting this as the way to go for at least a year now :)
Also I like the idea that her regeneration was bad and maybe was split across 2 different universes. The DT&Donna have to work in one collaboratively with the new doctor. He gets his own time to shine and we get the iconic duo doing their thing
Also I think we're forgetting if the new doctor has banter, him bantering with Donna could be a great introduction to his comedic side
With everything else going on in the 60th anniversary special, I think it would be for the best if Ncuti Gatwa's Doctor doesn't show up until the end of the episode. Trying to establish a new Doctor while all of that is going on would be a bit much.
That's what I was going to bring up. What if the first Gatwa episode happens *after* the special?
The big problem with doctor who at the moment is Jodie cause she is pregnant and that can mess up shooting if they aren’t going to also make the character pregnant as well
I don't think I've seen it before but what if his regeneration was integrated into the episode. A change of face to fool the enemy
RTD making it his life's mission to mess with The Councillor's schedule is kinda funny tbh😁😁
1:50 "Donna has not been seen since the End of Time"
Good one to take out of context!
14:58 Don't forget that X is the Roman numeral for 10!
I kind of wish they would bring back Martha for the 60th :( I heard somewhere that RTD wished he'd done her character better and Freema was always my favorite and 100% underrated as a companion.
They still might I guess. To be honest though, martha feels like the most likely companion to bring back in a later series anyway. I hope they do.
her main problem was falling in love with the doctor
@@RavenThom Nah, her main problem was the Doctor treating her badly for that. You can have people that are unrequitedly romantically into you, but that doesn't give you carte blanche to treat them poorly for it. She deserved waaaay more respect than she ever got from him. 🤷♀
Do you think it's possible that maybe we get an episode set across two different times? Like, have flashbacks to something that happened in 10 and Donna's time while we watch 14 contending with some sort of ramifications of it?
Kinda like The Two Doctors
I like this theory! "The doctor cleans up his mess"
Well, I'm thrilled, but having Wilfred Mott back makes me feel as a child on Xmas Eve 🌟🤗
I cried so hard 😭😭😭
Cribbins has been a big part of my life since early childhood. It was only when he came back before that I realised it. With Donna back I think it's right to bring him back too. To me, it's almost bigger than news than Tennant returning.
@@Elwaves2925 yeah it's amazing! Right said Fred! Have a cuppa tea!
I was in a doctor's office when I saw a spoilered post of wilf on set, and literally loudly blurted out "Wilfred Mott!"
It was embarrassing, yes, but my God I'm glad he's back.
THANK YOU - I totally agree that 10 was at his absolute best with Donna. I never liked the chemistry between 10 and Rose, but I adore 10 and Donna. I've felt alone in this for so long... *sob*
*dances off into the sunset mumbling about vindication*
Rose was definitely a 100% better with Nine!
@@concettasorvillo3719 YES! So much better!!
@@ElizIndRhythm well first of all, while I liked the hints about the Doctor being slightly jealous, I never liked the teenager aura given to Ten and Rose relationship. I liked when Rose was more independent from the Doctor and went around to chase adventures all alone, even if they bond remained strong. And plus, well, I miss Nine so much 💔
@@concettasorvillo3719 I miss 9 too! I think that he's so underrated, and those were some amazing stories! I also agree that the teenage behavior of Rose and 10 was absolutely annoying. I can't watch the Queen Victoria and the Werewolves episode - which I want to live - because their interactions just irritate the 🤬 out of me.
@@ElizIndRhythm ahahah I am so agree with you. 9 I think was one of the most balanced and had everything I like in the Doctor: humanity but strangeness, loneliness and hurting background, funny things and heart... 10 is a little unbalanced for me, even if he has some of the best stories. Plus team tardis with 9 was the best, I loved the Interations between him, Jack and Rose. Worth a whole series together. He is underrated just because he lasted one season only... I still wonder what happened.
I kinda wish they’d do a full series with Gatwa before the 60th, feels a bit complex having the Centenary special (with old of companions coming back, two incumbent companions and a doctor leaving) followed by the 60th (a new doctor intro - possibly - old doctor(s) coming back)
While I do think a full series is off the table, we still don't know exactly what we're going to get. There is the theory of several specials in 2023, leading up to the 60th. Given that they've just started filming today, which seems quite early to me, it does lend a little credibility to it. So while it's complete speculation, we may get more than one special. Or of course, we may not. Who knows eh, who knows?
I can understand that view - but having the 60th come first is looking like a great way to get more eye's back on the show for his first adventure.
I'm not confident a large number of the more casual Dr Who audience that has been skipping Whittackers run would come back just for a new Doctor - this should help get the new guy off to a good start and give him a great chance of being a ratings success.
That seems a bit rushed and rushed would not be great, maybe a special?
bear in mind that the day of the doctor (50th doctor special) was in november 2013, so if they do similar for the 60th, we'd have between the next special and late 2023 to hopefully have a shorter series or some specials with the new doctor
I think it would be quite a bad idea for NG's first story to be the 60th. He needs at least one episode as the sole Doctor to establish himself.
I was thinking similarly, but on the other hand, however you feel about his existence in the first place, the War Doctor managed to establish himself really well in a multi-Doctor episode which brought Tennant back; if written well, Gatwa could absolutely win us over in a multi-Doctor episode.
@@klop4228 While that's true, you're talking about John Hurt doing that. No offense to Ncuti Gatwa, as he's great in Sex Ed, but he ain't no John Hurt. 🙂
@@Elwaves2925 We'll see, is all I'm saying.
@@klop4228 I get that and you may be right, I just wanted to point out a big difference.
I'm excited for this! Tennant was my favourite Doctor. Matt Smith is second (looking forward to him on House on the Dragon, too). But you're absolutely right if the most popular modern Doctor shares the screen with Gatwa's debut. I can already see the fansite articles gushing over Tennant's history with the show, then relegating the newbie to a couple paragraphs at the bottom.
I would like to see Tennant and Tate appear in a role reversal so we get the Doctor Donna ( maybe mid change so it’s temporary) and Tennant is the plucky companion both meeting this new Doctor. That would be fun.
The Doctor would finally be a ginger!!!
to be fair, Capaldi’s first story was TECHNICALLY Day of the Doctor. yes it may have only been his eyebrows but what’s to say we don’t have something similar in 60th.
It would be really nice to see Matt Smith return, it's been a longer gap since Matt's last episode than it was between Davids last episode and his return in the 50th at this point
And now the Yasmin Finney as 'Rose' announcement too! This special is getting crazy
I'm happy for her though hoping it doesn't keep her too busy for my own reasons. Right now the heartstopper fandom is wishing with all our hearts for a season two announcement.
@@jamesjackson8292 The blog post lists her as a "guest" role - so I don't think she's Gatwa's companion. My guess is she's playing Donna's daughter.
Got to say, great channel. Your opinions are always honest and unbiased. A rare thing in DW fandom these days. Hats off to you. Keep up the good work. 👍
Yeah I'm really feeling a multiverse vibe from this one, especially with today's news added on as well.
If Christopher Eccleston and Billie Piper also come back, the community will lose their collective shit
Unfortunately, 9 aint happening, but 8?????? PLEASE
I'd seriously consider skipping the special if this occurred.
They should just make the special like 2hrs long and in the first half they could introduce the new doctor and then in the second half all hell breaks loose as 10 and Donna get involved. (unlikely but I can dream)
Whittackers last episode is apparently meant to be 90 minutes (according to RTD again), so this suddenly doesn't seem completely off the table.
And 90 minutes for the 60th could work similar to your idea pretty well - it is the length of 2 standard episodes after all.
There is something else, and if this is true, it's a brilliant move.
Who's to say Mr. Gatwa WASN'T spotted when the leaks came out. It's entirely possible that people did see him but everyone focused on Tennant, and would have been looking for him.
Kind of like how Spaniards overlooked those dull, gray rocks (platinum) in search for gold.
RTD had to announce before people saw him, possibly in outfit, using his sonic.
Tennant was spotted today, on set, wearing his brown suit. Just sayin'.
So announcing him and Donna before that happened was the ideal move to make. Bernard Cribbins was also spotted.
My inclination is (and has been for a while) that the 60th anniversary special will focus on new companion(s) interacting with any and all returning Doctors (in this case, Tennant); and the 14th Doctor won't appear until the very end, thus making the following episode (presumably the premiere of series 14) Gatwa's first full episode in earnest. This would give us plenty of time with 10 but also allow us to get acquainted with the new companion(s), who in turn, will take a back seat for 14's first episode so that Gatwa can steal the show. And yes, Donna returning does throw a new cog on the wheel, but I think this structure can still work even with an old companion in the mix.
I realize that it kinda sucks to have to sideline the new Doctor for something as momentous as this, but I do genuinely feel like it's the most viable option to avoid Gatwa being overshadowed, just postpone his official reveal until the last ten minutes or so... This is what I am hoping for, at least.
Small correction: Matt Smith has actually worked with RTD before! Davies wrote the 2010 Sarah Jane Adventures story, _Death of the Doctor_ which featured Smith.
What about the 10 to 11 regen scene at the End of Time pt2?
@@modmaker7617 I think that last scene in End of Time was already done with the full 2010 production crew. If I remember correctly, they literally cycled with the RTD crew the moment Tennant was done filming.
I'm terrified they're gonna screw up Donna's leaving and retcon it. Given flux involved the idea of different universes I wonder if Tennant will play the Doctor-Donna character as well or if he's The Doctor himself again only. Definitely also worry putting 10 in so quick with the new doctor could give him more trouble to get fans on board after Jodie leaves. I suspect he may get an episode before the 60th or that if not they have 10 tell him how regardless of regeneration *He Is The Doctor* and always will be. Just my hope there.
But interested about what will happen but if they don't namedrop Wilf I'll be a lil disappointed as I love Wilf.
There are photos of Bernard Cribbins on set alongside Tennant, so we're getting more than a namedrop . . .
@@jackfrederick3539 oh that's great i hoped he'd be in the shooting even just a small clip will make me happy.
It's a fair concern but they don't need alternate universes or any of that stuff to bring them in without screwing up that ending. They just use them from somewhere inside season 4, before that ending happened. Remember that it is a time travel show and that Ten and Donna will forget what happened once they return to their correct timestream.
I actually really hope they do give Donna her memories back because that ending always felt so awful and unfair…
@@arielsteinsaltz1956 That's what makes it an excellent ending IMO. It's victory but at a tragic cost.
This is so great! Finally really excited for Doctor Who again! I missed being excited for Doctor Who. I just hope other Doctors get announced as well. Not going to lie if theres no Capaldi I might be a bit disappointed but still really fricken excited. If Capaldi, Smith and Tennett are in this special then I might lose my mind lol. Maybe have McGann come back too but thats probably a long shot but I would love if he came back cause he is my favorite Doctor.
no capaldi, thank the (time) Lord
Davies writing for the Twelfth Doctor would honestly be a dream come true, so I hope we see something with him
@@christianwise637 Me too! I really hope he comes back
Bringing Tennant back as the meta crisis doctor would have been cool, make him the valeyard and have some fun with it as a fake out, where you think that it's 10 and donna but then have a mid story reveal that he's the valeyard and he's taken that universes Donna as a companion.
My thoughts are very similar to yours. Like Tennant well enough, not among my favourites but not towards the bottom of the very large pile, love Tate as Donna, feel like Tennant and Tate have one of the best Doctor/Companion chemistry in the show - up there with Baker/Sladen and McCoy/Aldred, but I'm nervous about the prospect of introducing a new Doctor - Any new Doctor - in a multi Doctor story.
Any thoughts on the weird phrasing of the announcement? "Filming scenes that are due to air in 2023 to coincide with the show’s 60th anniversary celebrations."
I always liked Donna. I always felt she got a bad shake. I appreciated how she was a normal person.
Lol at the David Tennant not aging joke.
What I was thinking was that perhaps the Tennant Doctor _is_ the metacrisis Doctor, and the Donna we see is the Donna from the alternate universe. Maybe they've been fighting aliens together in that universe all this time? The metacrisis Doctor is half Donna, what with his one heart, so maybe they met up in that universe. It would be a bit sad for them both to be back and yet not play their original characters, though.
The jacket snugness joke 🤣🤣 great intro ❤️❤️
I have a feeling the 60th won't carry on from the centenary and Ncuti Gatwa won't appear until series 14. The 60th could be just a standalone, multi doctor (hopefully) story with just old doctors
I'm assuming that Ncuti Gatwa will have a small cameo/teaser and that the next episode will be his real start as the Doctor (similar to what they did with Peter Capaldi, but instead starting Gatwa's run immediately after the special instead of waiting a season)
I doubt it
From the looks of it Jodie is regenerating at the end of the episode
5:59 Matt Smith actually did work with RTD on The Sarah Jane Adventures Series 4 Episode called “Death Of The Doctor” and has said on account he’d love to work with Russell again! 😊 👍🏻
Peter Capaldi's first appearance as the Doctor was on the 50th anniversary with David Tennant returning and then passing off to Peter Capaldi. They could do a similar thing for Ncuti Gatawa by giving him an appearance in the 60th and then his series after.
I'm in same place. My friends thought I would go crazy with this news but I'm just nervous, nervous for Ncuti being overshadowed, nervous for what they'll do with my favorite companion after so long.
I really hope they Bring back more doctors. Like give us either Smith or Capaldi or both too. Capaldi is 60 now and in 10 more years he might be retired so this might be our only chance. And Smith would be incredible too
I don't think Gatwa will be the main character in the 60th celebration. My guess is that it will be a special (or series of specials) that will pave the way to the new series with Gatwa as the lead.
I remember people being nervous that Holland’s Peter would be sidelined in No Way Home, that movie showed that you can have large cameos that still lift up the story of the newer characters.
@@bakasta5992 that is true although that’s hollands third/sixth movie. Little different to Ncuti’s premiere. Maybe spiderverse would be a better comparison?
@@bakasta5992 I think a better comparison would be civil war as it still felt like a movie about Steve even w all the new introductions who all still felt like good starting points for new characters and fit well among older stars
Its so uncanny anytime you want to take a little break something gets announced like how many times has it happened now :D
Matt Smith did technically kinda work with Russel in the Sarah Jane Adventures in Death of the Doctor but yh thats about it. Also you were dead on about the pictures and from what i saw from a friend there are a few pictures of Tennant filming with a tardis that looks like jodies
my hope is that if its 14s first story that its a blink like situation with donna and 10 where 14 has to save them from some threat or intervene basicly that way he still gets to shine
This sets a weird precedent, now they can always revert back to a popular era and don’t have to commit to decisions
That’s what Doctor Who has always done though, how many times has it ever really ‘committed’ to anything?
This is far from the first time they've brought Doctors back for an anniversary special.
@@tristanmayer5373 it’s possible that David Tennant will be the only doctor in this special, the set photos seem to suggest that so far and Russell’s social media posts imply that it might be the case
@@callumg3330 that’s kinda the point tho isn’t it? To make people come up w theories thru posts and then still surprise them when stuff comes out
Matt Smith worked with RTD on Sarah Jane Adventures
My assumptions were either something similar to Lost In The Dark Dimension - ie the 13th Doctor dies at the end of the centenary episode, but then the 10th Doctor comes in and puts things right, so 13 regenerates into Gatwa's 14 Doctor.
OR The Gatwa Doctor's first episode is his new regeration failing somehow, so he has to meet past Doctors to restore himself. Que clever editing of old classic Who scenes with the 14th Doctor in them acting opposite Hartnell etc, with new scenes filmed with Tennant, Smith, maybe even Capaldi and Whittaker.
But those are just my thoughts.
That could easily be turned into calling the BBC racist or sexist
*oH tHe bLaCk dOcToR cAn’T rEgEnErAtE bY hImSeLf*
(And similarly for Whittaker)
10 and Donna were my favorite Tardis team. A nice pallet cleanser before Ncuti Gatwa. Works for me!
Honestly, I wasn't going to rush to the premiere of the next season. I was going to wait and see how Gatwa was recieved as the Doctor before watching. But you'd better believe I'll watch a special with Tennant in it! So if they do introduce Gatwa through this special, then they might be able to get me invested in him as the Doctor and actually get me and a lot of other old fans to tune into the season premiere and boost the ratings
I agree with your concerns. I am wondering if they are filming some stuff out of order due to actor availability - like, to get David Tennant and Catherine Tate in, they had to film the 60th special now and then film Gatwa's first episodes separately. Or, maybe they are doing something totally different - they have been very vague when referring to what is happening in 2023 regards to if we're getting a series or a special or what.
Paul McGann appeared in the short The Night of the Doctor and Matt Smith worked with Davies for an episode of the Sarah Jane Adventures (Death of the Doctor)
I know that she won't see this, but it is SO amazing to see you back in your 10th outfit. It takes me back to when I first started watching your content.
It's great to see how much your channel has grown since this point... And you look fantastic! 👌💙
Who says I won’t see it?
If the new doctor shows up in the special, my first guess is that they would do it the same way they included Capaldi in The Day of the Doctor, just basically a teaser/cameo at the very end. The anniversary special would be more about closure for the current doctor and a little fan service for long time fans.
Donna's ending has always felt unfair to me so maybe they're taking the chance to give her a better end. Which would hopefully not include her dying, either.
I’d be bitterly disappointed if that was the case. Because that could open up a whole can of worms along the lines of “What if Doctor Who could bring back doctors and give them unshown adventures). Plus I’m more excited for Ncuti’s first outing than I am and would be for any returning Doctor
Regarding introducing a new Doctor in a multi-Doctor episode - the War Doctor was introduced this way (after a short introductory scene the episode before - likely less than what we'll see with Gatwa), and for my money I'd say it pretty much works. Granted, it's a different context, with the War Doctor being slotted in to explain parts of the Doctor's character as a whole, rather than an entirely new Doctor (and also the fact that I _do_ think Tennant was a little underused in that episode :P), but I think it shows that there is a possible working balance.
And that was the first multi Doctor episode of the new era too - so it could be argued that it set's a template.
And with potentially one Doctor less (not convinced RTD has finished his announcements yet) it could easily work fine.
As a black Doctor Who fan I am invested in Ncuti's Doctor and as much as I love Tennant's Doctor I accept that he's had his time and I'm just happy to get him back being written by the writer that helped make him great and delighted that that writer is going to be writing for this black Doctor's first season in the role.
Well based on the recording photos of Tennant on-set it seems he's with Jodie's TARDIS (Shorter Police Public Box Plate versus 9-12's, same length as Jodie's) so that does give a point to it being a Degeneration Story.
Aka the Jodie degenerates into the 10th Doctor as a ramification of whatever happens in the Centinial, and if there are multiple specials leading it the 60th itself, maybe it's a mini-Series of sort leading to the 60th covering the doctor progressing to the point they are stable in the Gatwa incarnation.
Either way, I do not like the idea of a multiverse story, as it'd have Gatwa introduced at the end of the Centennial and then we take a year+ gap between Gatwa's introduction and his first true episode which would be doing him dirty
They can't get Matt Smith back, he rocketed to stardom after the dance in Morbius.
Morbius, the best movie of all time.
Can't disagree with anything you said; we'll see what else pops up, how reliable it is, and when!
Everyone is crazy with excitement and I'm just kind of.. ok with it? It's nice to have Donna back but I'm slightly worried, bringing David back as much as I like him as an actor, seems to send a weird message, made worse by the fact that for the past few years the show was promoted still heavily featuring the 10th Doctor in a way that to felt a bit dismissive towards Jodie. Maybe it's just me being in my feelings, I don't know. 10 was never my favorite Doctor and a chunk of the fandom overpraising his era and diminishing others doesn't do him any flavors in my eyes.
If they announce Peter Capaldi I will lose me mind. I'd love to see Paul McGann or Sylvester McCoy. But right now I'm a bit cautious.
I feel a bit similar too.
And (imo) it unintentionally feeds into the popular narrative that DW hasn’t been as good since Tennant left. And I don’t like how now that crowd is going to be feeling vindicated because of this choice.
A little bit like bias and rose tinted glasses thinking is winning out over all the brilliant stories and characters in the moffat era
@@nickchavarria8052 This is exactly how I feel. The amount of character development Moffat brought to the show along with the themes that spanned his run are fantastic, and yet so many people claim that the show only got worse after Davies and Tennant left.
What I think would be cool is the 60ths is a epsidoe in the doctors minds and through out it they are just regenerate into different versions of themselves and near the end the doctors wakes up as the 14th similar to 10's first episode
These days it's not only set photos. A simple I've met David Tennant in Wales today. And another DT just came into our (I wanna say it was a Coffeeshop?) he's definitely here. Two sightings of talked to him seen him up close its him. That was the news
Yasmin Finney playing Rose (I'm assuming Rose Temple Noble) for me means that Donna will be from a later point in time. Not sure how Tennant fits into that though. *Edit: can ya tell I'm fanboying?
I wouldn't be surprised if there was another little cameo, possibly from another modern era doctor or maybe from another Tennant companion. I think everyone would love a little Rose cameo at some point
Okay, hear me out but what if they had a massive 2-3 hour long special that had basically a minisode for each surfing doctor (who wanted to be apart of this, of course) with selected companions each, and ending with the new doctor first adventure? Or something like that. And yes, I’m aware that this would be even more fan-service-y, but it is the 60th anniversary after all!
My favourite doctor was 9. My favourite companion was Rory. My favourite episode was Midnight.
So, I liked Donna as a companion. She supported the Doctor without crossing the line into enabling him. If they do go down the route of bringing back the version that will die if she remembers - then do it well. My problems with Dr. Who over the last few years has been around the quality of the writing not the acting.
I think we might get minisodes leading up to the 60th with past doctors. And then Ncuti gets focus in special itself. With maybe a brief appearance of other doctors in the climax of the special.
I'd be happy with a cliffhanger at the end of the centenary special and Tennant is the lead in the 60th trying to fix whatever happened and the flux leading to 14th doctor cameo at the end. Then next series will showcase the new Doctor.
I think I share some of your concerns here. I'm certainly glad that there will be two seperate specials - the centenary and the 60th anniversary. Otherwise, you just have too much to pack into one episode, given all that's been announced. My other concern is less of something relating to the specials in particular - if Yasmin is going to play a new companion (as much as I'm sure they would be great long term), I kind of hope that they are a one or two episode companion, as (being a Heartstopper fan) this leaves some hope that there is a chance of a second series
They may be filming episodes out of order. Hopefully there will be at least a couple of episodes with 14 before the 60th Anniversary. Matt Smith filmed the S5 weeping angels story before the 11th Hour was filmed.
I agree with saying they are the only two returning in a major capacity. *Maybe* I could see McCoy or Colin Baker Cameo, if only because (if I remember correctly) they are the only wo still living Doctors to yet cameo on the actual show and they arent getting younger. I think it would be shame to not having them have a cameo - doesnt even have to be as The Doctor, honestly.
Well seems like he did not wait till next sunday to announce Yasmin Finney in the special 😂 I know you do not like teenage stuff but you should try to watch Hearstopper. She is great in it. And I understand the nerves, but you know what? For once I want to be optimistic. I trust RTD to get us a great story for both the Tennant-Tate duo (my favourite ever) and Ncuti’s Doctor. 😉
David is playing a version of the Tenth Doctor but not from our timeline. Donna is in tact, David is in the wrong outfit, he has the wrong TARDIS… this is an alternate timeline. It is fixing the Timeless Children story by implying we’ve been watching the wrong canon. That is my theory.
I'm happy for all Tenth Doctor fans out there who get to see their favourite Doctor again, but it's a little frustrating when your least favourite Doctor is the one that keeps coming back 😅
I know how that feels
I’m in exactly the same boat here. My least favourite showrunner and Doctor coming back. My favourite Doctor never gets anything other than audio (8).
I know right, I just want to see Peter Capaldi back 😭
Your fault for bad taste lol (jk)
@@nocturne8333 mcgann deserves his own series. Idk why nobody wants to give him it
I am hoping against all hope that McGann gets something for the 60th. My boy needs some love. Also Matt Smith did work alongside RTD for his episode with Sarah Jane and Joe Grant and he gets such nice writing in it, a little more reserved and 3esk but very good and he said he’d be happy to come back fairly recently. As for Capaldi he said that he’s not really interested in coming back, especially for a multi doctor story and I’ve seen it floated round some places that he was pushed out the role rather than leave of his own accord, which considering his love for the role I can see being true. I hope that 10’s return really is something to celebrate.
I'm guessing Teannet and Tate will b a simulation created by Ten, Ten and Donna on an adventure, Donna through Ten's eyes, that Fourteen will stumble into and becomes 'active' in the TARDIS, with the rest of the special similarly touching upon legacy elements.
Maybe it's like the moment taking The Bad Wolf form something trying to take forms familiar to the doctor but slightly off in some cases like The newly announced Rose
my impression is that Gatwa won't appear until after the 60th. i see series 14 after the 60th
It looks like it isn't 10 going by the photos. I'm fine with the Metacrisis duo. Maybe 10b has found a way to extract or stabilise the Doctor Donna. He has his own Tardis.
Would be super cool for the metacrisis Doctor to come back at some point and I think that's just going to still be on the table, but totally agree that main Doctor is better here - especially for any new viewers that don't have that lore; shouldn't spend time explaining it and making them feel like they missed something.
RTD is showing how good he is at playing the publicity game and building up excitement. His enthusiasm in interviews is so infectious. As for the return of Tennant and Donna, I would guess RTD will find some way to bring them both back. I would be disappointed if it is just some missing adventure. If so, what is the point? RTD has the imagination to come up with something better. I agree with your concerns about Tennant's involvement lessening the impact of the 14th Doctor. However, I have reasonable confidence RTD will pull it off in a way that avoids that. My main regret is if (as seems likely) we don't see Smith or Capaldi. I preferred them both to Tennant and if does feel a bit like RTD just wants to bring back his mates. That may be a weakness? On hte plus side, it's good to be nervous/excited again. (Chibnall's run left me completely underwhelmed.)
My theory is that this will be not long after Ncuti taking over the role. Jodie has filmed her regeneration scene. For me the best way to do it, is that Ncuti's Doctor doesn't know who he is and who he is meant to be (thanks to Chibnal's timeless child mess). So David's 10th Doctor and Doctor Dona step in to help Ncuti's Doctor out
Just had an awesome thought….Tennant's Doctor shows up, excitedly tells Wilfred he's finally found a way for Donna to remember him safely, Wilfred is happy but wary, point to where you can see Donna and her husband….and we see him levering up a *very* pregnant Donna! Catherine Tate playing a *very* pregnant Donna would be so much fun! And at the end of shenanigans, the baby is born, and she tells the Doctor she's glad it isn't a boy, because it would be hard to name the baby after the Doctor, but since it's a girl, what would he think of naming her Rose? Cue Tennant looking close to tears of happiness. And then the modern-day story introduces us to Rose all grown up.
It would give us a reason Donna wouldn't just run off with the Doctor once she got her memories back, when that was *all* she wanted to do just before he took them away. And it would work with the split story I advocated in another post, with Gatwa's Doctor storyline running parallel to a flashback story with Tennant and Tate. And maybe, just maybe, we could get a darn apology from the Doctor to Donna, along with an admission from Donna that she'd basically been begging him to let her die, and she's glad that he didn't, as a good anti-suicide message. As much as the loss of agency bugged me at the time, it basically *was* suicide Donna was begging for, and that's never sat well with me either. Too many failed attempts at suicide have bern grateful later that they'd failed. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Let's show Donna has a good life now, and is glad she isn't dead!
Adding a reply to say, if it wasn't obvious, I had never heard of Yasmin Finney and had no idea she's trans! If they decide to acknowledge that in-story, then maybe Donna *does* name her little boy something goofy referencing Doctor, or maybe just John for his alias, and that's what keeps it a surprise until the end that Rose is Donna's daughter. Heck, that would allow them to let Rose interact with Donna and Wilf in the past, with only Rose knowing it's her family until she has to refuse to hold the new baby. ;-)
Donna's kid is her child with Lance Bennett from another universe likely the second universe alluded to in Flux
can we please see paul mcgann for the 60th? despite me not enjoying donna at the time (its been a long while so my opinion may have changed since being a child) i welcome catherine tate who ironically i quite enjoy
What if i turns out that the 14th Doctor happens to be instrumental in Donna getting her memories back (but not dying. of course) ? This would end up adding to his endearment to the audience, wouldn't it ?
Eccleston's 9th Doctor was tied for my favorite with Tennant's 10th. I wish Eccleston would come back. Donna is absolutely my favorite companion and the only one I really want to see return. I never connected with any of the other companions.
You're worrying too much about Tennant overshadowing the new Doctor in my view - all he needs to shine is that one great scene.
Tennant spent most of his first episode (the first Christmas Special) asleep in his jim-jams and then he got that one great scene and off we went into the next season.
And if the Day of the Doctor had been followed by a season staring the War Doctor, after giving him multiple great scenes throughout, would anyone really have complained?
Have confidence in the writer that, even if he's not in it much, Ncuti will get that one scene that, if he's got the acting chops to deliver, will be enough to bring people back.
I trust RTD as a writer & I trust him instincts for casting people to deliver his scripts well - and have seen more than enough from the new run of Doctor Who to know how little screen time a new Doctor needs to pull in an audience.
Eccleston had everyone hooked from the word "Run".
I was never a fan of Catherine Tate, but I loved her as Donna and I feel she had been the best Companion in the modern era... So far.
I am very excited about seeing Donna again! I just hope they don't change anything about her original departure from the show. So I'm actually quite okay if this turns out to be flashback or parallel universe related.
On a different note, I always thought it would be a nice story idea to have the main objective of an episode be to keep Donna from remembering. So instead of (or on top of) preventing an alien invasion, the doctor would have to try to keep Donna from getting involved. However, this does not seem like an Anniversary special storyline, so I don't think it's likely we'll see that ^^
I was nervous about this news, but now I want the anniversary special to be a screwball comedy where Gatwa has to play piggy in the middle between a 10 and Donna who aren't allowed to meet each other, and 14 isn't allowed to tell her that he's the doctor.
I hope that McGann comes back for the 60th special with Tennant and Gatwa/Whittaker. He’s one of my favorite doctors and doesn’t look to different from 1996 and 2013.
What I remember about the 10th Doctor first appearance is not much Doctor. I mean didn’t he lie in bed knocked out from the regeneration for most of the Christmas special? 🤔
Personally if it's just Tennant I'm going to be very disappointed and I'm getting worried that my fears of this just being a repeat of the first RTD era.
The show needs to stop relying on Tennant and also needs to acknowledge the classic era in the anniversary specials. It certainly shouldn't be another episode of series 4 (if it is I'd rank this anniversary lower than the two doctors).
If it's just Tennant it feels like fan service and nostalgia baiting for short term views.
This has really just made me less interested in seeing it if it's what it looks like, I'm just not interested in a rerun of the RTD era, I want new things, not retreding old ground.
I mean this is tennant’s first outing as the doctor in 10 years, i wouldn’t say they’re relying on him. he’s willing to play the part again, a lot of the other actors might not be, who knows
Series 14 with Ncuti begins production in November and shoots until July 2023. He is currently working on 'Barbie' and will then be filming 'Sex Education' over the rest of the summer. Series 14 airs in 2024. He is not in the 60th proper. The 60th consists of 3 Specials with Tennant and Tate
Do you have a source on any of that?
Reecey, RTD himself already confirmed that Series 14 will follow directly on from the 60th Anniversary Special.
And as this video is posted more news DAMN YOU RTD
I don't think this is what they are doing, but something I think would be really cool for them to do with Doctor Who would be to have a full series where for some reason or not the doctor is forced to travel with himself. Essentially making the doctor a companion to a doctor.
Maybe 14 is gonna be exhausted from the regeneration. Luckily another incarnation is in the same time and takes care of stuff and helps Ncuti recover at the end
I think itll go 10.2 -14
So 13-10 again
Use bringing 10 and donna back as a way to ease a general audience into the 14th doctor.
Since for a lot of people that mightve been the last time they had strong memories of DW.
"You know this jacket is more snug in the chest then it used to be"👏👏👏👏
Oh, looking nice in 10’s suit, I want 10’s suit so bad, all I have is a blue dress shirt 😂
Great video! I’m not as sure as you are that Tennant isn’t playing a future incarnation…as far as I’m aware Ncuti was reported as the 14th Doctor by BBC News, but never in the official press statements. His costume today and the fact he’s with 13’s Doctor adds fuel to the fire too. It would be an interesting approach to take…I guess time will tell!
I have a feeling there will be multiple specials for the 60th :D
And Wilf! And Rachel Talaylay!
remmeber, both in Classic Who and New Who so far, all regeneration scense happen at the very end of the episode in order to build up the cliff hanger, stay tuned, drama.....i bet Gcuit Gatwas will be in the 60th anniversary....like all other doctors, the very last 30 seconds
First let me squel a little. Sqeeeeee! They're bringing Donna back with her doctor. Squeegee!
On to my questions. Didn't Capaldi work with RTD on the Pompeii episode. I would love to see David Tennent's doctor and Donna Recognize Capaldi's doctor as the stone worker who bought the Tardis in Pompeii. How would Doctor Capaldi explain why he had another man's body?
Can't wait to see this special.