Interrogating Lewis Hamilton's questionable Max Verstappen F1 claim
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- Lewis Hamilton versus Max Verstappen is the gift that just keeps on giving. Their… let’s call it ‘intense’... rivalry is not quite so white hot on track these days, but that doesn’t seem to stop them and their respective teams throwing shade at one another.
Lewis is essentially saying that Max’s achievements now mean a bit less because he didn’t face the same degree of internal competition that Lewis did from team-mates.
Unsurprisingly, this led to some entertaining back and forth between Mercedes and Red Bull.
00:00 Hamilton's claim
03:40 Ranking the team-mates
12:03 Conclusion
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The disrespect for Jenson Button is gross.
Everyone forgets him and it’s saddening. Only started watching in 2016, but I know how good he was on his day.
Button was a seriously mid driver until 2009. He was Kmag at best. For sure he was one of the talents after that season but there was a reason why was known as the driver who would never win a race.
Button out scored Hamilton in their three seasons together.
@@eternal_trashero He was defo rated higher than KMag in the 2000s he was seen at the top of the the second class of the 2000s talents in F1
The first class being Kimi/Alonso and JPM
That's higher than KMag has even been rated
@@eternal_trasherobro what? Everyone knew he if he got the car he’d win races. He just had to deal with BAR being mid for most of his career. He was only behind the greats of the 2000s like kimi, Alonso, and Michael.
They put Russell, Sainz and Ricciardo above world champion Button 😂
Sainz ahead of Button is kind of crazy. To be fair Russell has the potential to be a future world champion and I think his ceiling is higher than Button's, but I don't think I'd put him in front of Button at the moment. As for the world champion, Button was a solid driver, but make no mistake it was the car, and not so much the driver that won that 2009 championship.
Did you watch the video?
It's how hard Sainz is against Max at the time when they are teammates.
It's how hard Russell is now vs current Hamilton.
It's a 2016 - 2018 Ricciardo vs 2016-2018 Verstappen.
Ricciardo, Sainz, and Russell are just a bit tougher to beat at the time by their teammates at the time vs when Hamilton was teammates with Button.
At no point that they are saying those drivers are better than Button wtf.
Also it's different timeline. Don't just take a number and run with it but pay attention to what they are saying.
Exactly! Pathetic
@@camejuanm Yeah exactly. some people just dont listen to the video but still insist on commenting.
Yeah, that was a flawed analysis. 3 world champions vs 0 world champions. With Rosberg becoming a world champion while he was Lewis's team mate, how does that not put him at the top of the list?? I would love to see how they actually came up with the numbers for these guys cause it looks one eyed as hell. You also need to understand the psychological warfare that Verstappen wages on his team mates as well. Not saying that Hamilton is any better, but Hamilton never shacked up with his team mates girlfriend, that is a breach of the most basic man code ever, the guy is a scumbag.
Button being lower compared to Sainz, Daniel and Russel is mind boggling.
Its compared to their teammate at the time. You don’t understand that.
Button was an incredibly mediocre qualifier and a good racer who had a lot of luck in the second half of his career. Button got outqualified by his teammate 60% of the time in f1.
@@_________.”teammate at the time”. So you’re saying 2 rookies SAINZ vs rookie verstappen, was a tougher fight than 2009 world champion button vs 2008 world champion (not yet 7 times) Lewis hamilton. 2 world champions fighting in the same car will always be a tougher fight than 2 rookies in the same car. Cherry-picking stats and nuances doesn’t make a great argument. 2 experienced drivers vs 2 inexperienced drivers. Let’s be real here
@_________. That makes it even worse. Ranking rookie Sainz over 2011 Button is absolutely ridiculous.
HAMILTON HAS ONLY EVER WON CHAMPIONSHIPS WITH KOVALINEN,ROSBERG AND BOTTAS AS HIS TEAM MATES HIS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM MATE ARGUEMENT IS HUGELY FLAWED, HE HAS NEVER WON A WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WITH A CHAMPION AS HIS TEAM MATE....SAME AS VERSTAPPEN
Ricardo over 2 world championship drivers is INSANE 🤣🤣
Perhaps that’s because Button and Rosberg had their career highlights in a CHAMPIONSHIP WINNING CAR, unlike Daniel who only had the 3rd best car and got plenty of wins and podiums in Mercedes’ domination era.
Says it all really.
Just because they have world championships doesn't mean they're better. Hamilton has the best stats, but he isn't the best.
@@justinwalpole8956 Button and Rosberg are still better than Ricardo. Look at Ricardo after Red Bull. He was smashed by Lando
RIC was the only Non Merc driver to win a race in 2014. And he also finished ahead of Max in 2017. He just never had a championship level car to work with. In terms of talent RIC is right there with Rosberg and Button....people forget how good Ricciardo was in his RB phase
There is absolutely no way you can objectively give Ricciardo a 9/10 while giving Roseburg and Button 8/10 and 7/20 respectively. Thats just insane. Roseburg beat Hamilton for a world championship. Alonso didn't do that. Ricciardo didnt do that against Max.
Lol I dont know how they came up with 9/10 and sainz 8/10 and still the average was lower by 1.4
Yeah because Hamilton is less consistent than Max. Lil bro says you can't get 10 in a row if you have a good teammate. Yet Rosberg got 7 in a row against Lewis.
Lewis simply worse than Max and thereby more inconsistent. Thats all.
Ricciardo did that 2/3 times
Bottas beat Ricciardo in f2 as well
You can when Daniel saw off Vettel, a 4 times world champion you CLOWN
The rankings in this video are insane…
I'm a RB and Verstappen fan and I can say for sure that Lewis has had more difficult teammates to race against. That being said, there really isn't a doubt in my mind that Max would still beat almost anyone you throw at him. In equal cars, his incredible pace and consistency would just wear the other person down over the course of a season.
That would be interesting, Max's weakness is when he is under pressure. This showed up in his erratic driving when he had an average RedBull. Of course this is when he was younger so this is what would make it interesting. Honestly I think Alonso would light Max's ass on fire. It would be no cake walk
@@ttboy8338 I think there will be a few crashes with alonso and verstappen if they were in equal cars lol
For sure... Allonzo would go all out at a real chance to win another WDC. Alonzo is a scary driver when he is on it.... @@joshflynn2173
of course he would no one saying that. a part of me just wishes that Daddy Ric never left red bull in 18 but would’ve been a sacrificial lamb in 21
@@joshflynn2173 "You should always leave the space"- Alonso.
Sainz with a higher rating than button is absolutely outrageous
Crazy right!!!!
Ridiculous!!!
HAMILTON HAS ONLY EVER WON CHAMPIONSHIPS WITH KOVALINEN,ROSBERG AND BOTTAS AS HIS TEAM MATES HIS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM MATE ARGUEMENT IS HUGELY FLAWED, HE HAS NEVER WON A WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WITH A CHAMPION AS HIS TEAM MATE....SAME AS VERSTAPPEN
Sainz is better than Button, over a 100 races before a win!
I think Button holds the record for the driver who had to wait the longest for a win.
Brawn was just illegal. Put K Mag in the Brawn and he would have a WDC too.
@@alimantado373 No that would be Sergio Perez. Button is 6th on this list. You should check which driver made it into 2nd, you might be surprised. ;)
Sainz ahead of button is just laughable
I almost dropped my phone.
I think the point is it’s not a driver rating but a driver rating in comparison with their teammate at the time
Luckmilton, Crymilton , Fakmilton , Saltymilton ...
Now Jealousmilton 🔥
No it's not sainz would destroy button in qualifying and would be able to keep him behind in races
No idea how they thought that was even remotely possible.
Rating Jenson lower than Daniel and Carlos is actual a criminal level of bullshit lol like no way, just no way. And Daniel is an 8/10 at most, he could take it to Max in a way Rosberg could to Lewis but the teams warming to Max clearly put Daniel off his game in 2018
Daniel is the only teammate to push Max in either the races or quali. Bottas at least would qualify at the front of the field more often than not, and tracks he was good at he able to snatch a pole which is more than you can say for any of Max’s teammates really
Theres a reason Bottas has the longest Q3 streak in history
He had very good 1 lap pace just his racecraft sucked lmao in all facets relative to his 1 lap pace
Recency bias?
@@GregBrownsWorldORacing it’s incredibly high. And it’s not to take anything away from Max, but you’ve got to say if he had someone like Lewis, Alonso, Lando, Charles or George in the car, he would not be bagging 10 in a row
@@stefanrhys44Nah he would. He's on another level of focus right now. Even Alonso said so.
@@rockmorales he’s gotten into this state because he’s gone unchallenged the whole year. If he’d had someone pushing him he’d have a lot more pressure to contend with
Lewis: I did it all by myself
James: Valtteri this is james
Bottas only won races with the most dominant car. Riccardo was winning races without the most dominant car.
Riccardo's 8 wins > Bottas' 10 wins
That's fair but in terms of talent Daniel isn't that far away. He is maybe half a point above Bottas..Both are great drivers who will never win WDC
Bottas Beat Ricciardo in junior categories for the championship. Also, Bottas was rapid in Williams in 2014 and was pretty rapid in 2017.
Thing is, he's saying you can't get 10 in a row if you have good teammates.
Wanna explain how Rosberg got 7 in a row with Lewis as his teammate?
And it could have been even more if Lewis didn't take him out!
Hahahha
@@dj.m682was rosbergs fault
@@adalsegu9670nope
Because in all of those races LH had mechanical problems. Go watch 2016 season DTS fan. LH won every race in 2016 when his car was working normally. Most importantly Merc did not design the car around one driver like RB does around MV. Two drivers are given equal opportunity at Mercedes.
Rosberg seems to be way underrated by the majority of people. He trounced Schumacher over three seasons before going toe to toe with Hamilton. Rosberg v Alonso would probably be tight too.
We talking bout a post prime Schumacher lol 🤣
@@Marcus7732217 This is a post prime Hamilton but people like to think hamilton is better than he never has because hamilton beat him in 2021, even tho himself said hes not driving well which takes alot because of ego
Step 1 let your team mate beat you so he becomes Wordl Champ. Step 2 Say your team mates are so good bcs they are World Champ...
I don't know what the fuck is going here in this comment thread. But let me remind you people, that Nico was the guy who beat Hamilton in equal machinery.
@@SandooronBlitz you are delusional if you think Hamilton let Rosberg win 2016 title
Alain Prost had FIVE World Champion teammates (he raced and beat Senna / Lauda / Hill / Mansell and Keke Rosberg) and nobody says much good about him. Prost was the little genius (the professor) that Senna hated but wanted to compete against at the highest level.
(Posted by a Hamilton fan very aware that there is no such thing as a "greatest of all time." Hamilton only raced 3 WDC)
Agreed Prost for me is All time Great! 5 WDC winning Teammates and Won Titles In 3 Different F1 Eras
Facts!
Thats a great comment about the GOAT Discussion, where i can agree on all. (posted by a Max Fan). There were really ecxeptionell drivers like hamilton, max, schumacher, senna, prost, mansell, stewart, fangio, clark, ascari, hakkinnen, kimi raikönnen and some more.
@@darwinLee81283 Mansell wasnt a wdc, when he was prosts teammate and hill was in his second season in f1 with only 2 races started at the start of 1993 and was clearly the apprentice in the team.
Because they mansell prost senna era had been forgotten these kids don't know about legends
I'm a senna guy but you can't take away how good prost was , fast and perfect car management .
Let's not forget mansell to race against 2 drivers that are arguably the best of all time he really was a thorn in Thier side
Would be interesting to know what the average ages was of their teammates and how many years they were active in F1. Both Gasly and Albon were absolute rookies.
Max would still owned gasly. Albon would be closer.
@@truth4reelnot the point they're trying to make
@@truth4reeldisagree gasly has matured another more
It was unfair to throw Albon and Gasly against Max. It hurt their confidence
Yeah. Because Max was so much older when they were his teammates...
Bottas was still more consistent than all of Max's team mates, you done him dirty there.
Okay sure, but he was consistant at getting the podiums, he never relly won a race if not hamilton had a howler, so its was no threat to Hamilton. He Even gave away a win one race and just let hamilton get the win whitout a fight, cause Mercedes said it
@@Erfa02the team didn’t let him
@@_________.Like red bull didn't let Perez. Plus perez sacrificing all the time. What bullshit is that.
@@geraldritchie4269 still hasn’t reached half of bottases orders
This year Perez won multiple races with Max being second. So what about orders to let Max pass
Well I think Hamilton is absolutely right when he says he had better teammates than Verstappen. I also think he is absolutely wrong to include Bottas in that list. What Hamilton forgets is Verstappens rock solid consistency. Even with Bottas as his teammate Hamilton couldn't even touch any win-streak records... because he just wasn't as consistent as Verstappen is now. And consistency is what matters when win-streaks are concerned.
But you also need to consider the team behind the strategy, pit stop, etc. Right now RB has the best team, flawless strategy and reliability, ham could have multiple winning streaks if there was no mistakes and problems. Go watch tommo f1 takes on why ham don’t have multiple wins in a row.
He had competition all the time except for 2020 which was a very short season
Well said! 🧡
You hit the nail, Verstappen lives for racing, Lewis likes to mingle with the rich and famous after a race, MV goes Sim racing to relax and does simulator work .
@@marcelbekker2613 are you paparazzi? How did you know about their private life? Did you follow them 24 hours?
Holy, the copium on these scores for Max's teammates is insane. This is honestly the first time I felt "misguided" watching a "The Race" video/article... Aside from who is right (Max or Lewis), truly the points given are quite outrageous don't you guys think?
They do this often. I’ve noticed misinformation in their videos multiple times. Now, idk if this is intentional or just bad journalism but I take their content with a sizable grain of salt
They do this often. I’ve noticed misinformation in their videos multiple times. Now, idk if this is intentional or just bad journalism but I take their content with a sizable grain of salt
Max is so unbelievably consistent… he hasn’t made a mistake since the end of 2021. No crashes, no off-days, no misjudged moves. That’s what is so impressive. This was highlighted last year when Leclerc made mistakes. Lewis is a great driver but he does have some weekends, for whatever reason, where he isn’t quite up to speed. That’s why Lewis, 7 x WDC with multiple cars just as dominant, if not more dominant, than the current RB, has won no more than 5 races on the bounce. Even Rosberg, whilst racing against Lewis as his team-mate, won 7 consecutive races…
I agree max is unbeatable at the moment
No mistakes since 2021 is just false. Prime example being his spin in Hungary 2022. I agree with the sentiment that he was been unbelievably consistent lately though.
@@NiSE_Rafterthat was just for show you see ;)
Singapore 2022 and the move on Hamilton in Brazil 2022. His car is so far ahead this year that he doesn’t have to make any ill advised moves and can just blast past on the straights (apart from Monza)
Brazil 2022 was not misjudged, it was some certain other driver not leaving any room to a driver that had been alongside for a while lul@@Danr316
For someone who says do the talking on the track, he sure talks a lot off it
so he shouldn't answer questions when asked?
For someone who says they don't care about records , care about it too
The truth will set you free so be completely honest .
He doesn’t do anymore talking than any other driver.. it’s just his popularity means his comments are covered more by the media.
@@halemmorOr maybe his comments are just full of shit?
Lewis sounds like he’s fighting for his reputation almost. I think he expected to be able to retire from the top of the grid, after an unparalleled stretch of form, and cement his legacy as the best. Instead, Verstappen has come to take away the mantle as the top driver on the grid, and even though Lewis is an all time great, he’s not the current great, and likely won’t retire as the current great. Because of that, it sounds like he’s trying to cement his legacy by belittling Max, so that when he leaves everyone remembers him as Sir Lewis Hamilton, and not the guy who lost to Verstappen and took a step back. Not that anyone would, he’s a 7 time champ but I think he’s worried
I said that he would become a Valentino Rossi if he stayed too long and everybody laughed at me.
Max is a fraudulent champion, he has no credibility 😂
@@arranlargue6167😂😂retarded LH fan spotted
@@arranlargue6167grow up lol
@@arranlargue6167cry somewhere else please, its not a good look
"Valetri It's James" is the one message that should be played whenever Lewis starts to think he had it tough 😂
was looking for this, ty
Yes, and very similar to Schumacher and his team mates.
I've just been watching through old highlights and just finished the 2018 season - 2018 Russia is absolutely gross for the 'Valterri it's James'
@@the_fleeing_dutchman but Schumacher never went out against other drivers saying I had it more difficult than you.
It's a pure lie that Merc ever truly let Bottas fight Hamilton.
Why would they need to when Hamilton was soundly beating him?
You don’t watch enough f1.
Not even just Lewis, Mercedes as a whole are just overdosing on copium this year for some reason and it's not a good look. What they achieved themselves in the sport is nothing to scoff at and I don't recall Ferrari or any other team throwing this much hate towards Merc during their reign of terror. They need to keep their heads down and focus on making a better car instead of trying to downplay the success of other teams that have rightfully earned it now.
Red Bull made it a pretty good habit of always throwing shade at Mercedes during their domination and always threatened to pull themselves from the sport. No one told them to put their heads down and make a better car.
like redbull since 2014
@@andrewcphan They had a great car, it's why they stole wins from Mercedes every year. They were stuck with a crap customer engine and a broken token system that made it impossible to improve anywhere near the Mercedes level.
@@andrewcphannobody did because their car was better than Mercedes but PU was worse than Mercedes, Red Bull have made Mercedes irrelevant since Honda has caught up in power.
@@someonesch4361not really, in the quicker car it still took my until the last lap and a bent race director to win the 2021 title 🤷🏼♂️
Complimenting someone else’s achievements does not take away what you have achieved yourself.
When Michael was asked if someone was gonna break his records, he was so gracious saying no doubt. Not this entitled, bitter man we have.
He was asked a question and he gave his honest opinion. Why is it that when Max is brutally honest you all claim "he tells it like it is" "Dutch always straightforward" but when Hamilton gets asked a question that was prompted and he gives his honest opinion it's a problem?
@@MojoMachin3because his comment is bs and everyone knows it. No way in hell that kovalainen and bottas were better drivers than every teammate max has had. Even he himself surely can't believe that.
@@emiel1206 How exactly is it bs? Yes those two drivers are the weakest he had but he's friends with Bottas and can't say that...Also when he had them as teammates he had external challenges(except for 2019 and 2020)...Massa 08, Vettel in 17, 18...then they had to do their job as rear gunners just like Checo did for Max in 2021. Riccardo is the only driver that matched and beat him in a competitive car. If Daniel was back in Redbull he wouldn't be winning 10 in a row nor if Russell, Alonso, Button and Rosberg were his teammates. Simple. That doesn't take away from Max's greatness it just would be nice to see him tested against a great driver from within the team given the other teams can't catch Redbull.
Max doesn't undermine a driver's achievements. Other than Hamilton's car being dominant he's not talked shit about Hamilton's ability to beat his teammates
@@varunreddy3594 this exactly. Max will always compliment others unless he was verbally attacked first.
Creating your own rating seems rather arbitrary. It helps to factor in legacy, but adding a less subjective measure such as points to measure the teammates against one another would've made a more convincing point. I do, however, agree with your overall conclusion.
Legacy is something that needs to be considered, however, it is tough to use as a measurement of quality. Obviously, the number of championships, wins, podiums and poles between Verstappens teammates and Hamiltons is going to vary significantly, as none of Verstappens teammates apart from Perez have ever had a championship winning car. On the other hand every teammate Hamilton has had apart from Russell has had a championship winning car in his career. So I can see why you wouldn't solely rely on numbers.
What I found weird is that you didn't include Gaslys performance past his Red Bull time but you did factor in Sainz' past Toro Rosso. Sainz wasn't close to being the driver he is today. And saying him and Verstappen had a tough fight back then seems a bit of a stretch considering Verstappen scored double the points over their time together which by points percentage is even worse than Gasly.
I don't understand why Mercedes is so keen on talking down Verstappens and Red Bulls achievements. I don't remember this kind of attitude towards Mercedes achievements when they were dominating. Sure, there was a lot of negativity towards them as the dominating team in general but I can't recollect another team going as far as saying their achievements were basically invalid.
agreed
Not to mention they didn't give any weight to how long each teammate was there. Bottas was getting beat by Lewis far longer than Red Bull kept any driver around.
How many times has Hamilton won a race when RB were dominating? How many times has Max won when Merc was dominating?
As far as I know hasn’t Lewis won any from Max while RB was dominating, while Max won dozens against a dominant Mercedes. And the fact that Lewis finds Bottas a good driver says more about Lewis than about Bottas.
Mercedes era wasn't as dominant as this Redbull. That's the answer for that question
Because Max has a rocket ship who else has won a race this year apart from Red bull you can't expect Ham to win races in a worse car he still gets podiums but getting a win is almost impossible with the W14 right now and merc was never this dominant at least other teams had a shot at winning i'm guessing your new to f1 or something because if you watched during 2017 ,18 or 21 you would see how close the races were
@@JairsonAkaRedoFAMCorrect, but to be fair in the highest point of their dominance 14-16. It was an internal struggle between the two Merc drivers which is the point I think Lewis is trying to make.
If your entire history of F1 starts from 2016 then you might have a point. But Lewis did win races in 2nd/3rd best car from 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013 and some races in 2012. Even in 2008 the Ferrari was better.
Regarding point 1: is no one going to point out that Hamilton essentially devalued not only the titles of Max, but put Seb, Alonso and Michael in the same bucket.
So all four of those champions have championships with less value than his… that’s what he’s saying.
The ego on this guy… 🤦♂️🤷♂️
So max doesn't have an ego OK dude...
its actually the opposite mate .those 3 having won a championship while matching Lewis in performance increase there value , for the simple fact they challenge the greatest ever ,
@@BeethovensLaguerreRacingAt least you get it!!!
@@BeethovensLaguerreRacingSeb's 2010,2012 titles are won when Lewis had a Championship worthy car , and Lewis was in contention for the title. Which indirectly contradicts all of Hamilton's claims . The guy is Luckmilton, Crymilton , Fakmilton , Saltymilton ...
Now Jealousmilton 🔥
he is living rent free in there it seems@@ananthu8534
You're right that Hamilton has over stretched by saying that all his teammates were better. Yet he's closer to the truth than this video's rankings. Riccardo was better than Kovelainen, but all the rest of Hamilton's were better than Verstappen's. It's not even close. It doesn't take anything away from Verstappen because he's doing everything he can and should, he doesn't choose his team mates as far as I'm aware. Having said that his titles would be far more impressive if he had a competitive teammate that clearly deserved the seat, which has not been the case since Ricciardo.
Lol what. Its more likely Rosberg and Hamilton were just above average using a phenomenal car, than saying all of Hamilton's teammates were better than Max except for Ricciardo. Point in case, Max was getting wins in a 3rd best car during the Merc dominance, while Hamilton has not sniffed a win in 2 years even with the second best car.
Who cares who his teammate is or was? Hamilton had a faster car in 2021 and lost to Verstappen - so I guess Hamilton is saying it's not impressive that Verstappen beat him. This is all a bunch of nonsense, especially coming from Hamilton. The guy had the best car for 8 years and he's complaining now because someone else has had the best car for 2.
Are you genuinely saying Bottas > Riccardo?!
@@pradeepverghese1323 im by no means a fan of either drivers, but you must be smoking. No doubt they were driving phenomenal cars but at some points of their careers they were racing WDCs team mates - one of them raced a 2 time WC in his rookie year even. As to the reason Max was winning in a "3rd best car", it was by virtue of either the top team crashing out OR the track suited RB's aero. In this year's f1, can you even point out to me 2 tracks where RB isnt the best card on the grid?
@@n.b.5258If you really thought Hamilton had the quicker car in 2021 you must have been watching with biased glasses. It was only in the last four races when they put a new engine in that Mercedes was 100% quicker than RB.
Even without considering any teammates, it must be pretty clear that Verstappen is doing a great job now, isn't it? He is very fast and hardly makes any mistakes, even in tough conditions.
Easy to make no mistakes when you are completely alone at the front. Noone there to push him into making them. Time will tell when it comes to Max. Lets see how good he is when the other teams catch up.
@@lars3712same then applies to Hamilton as well then no all those years in Merc? Or any other driver who is leading (because of their talent + machinery).
@@hh-jy1ld except in maxs case his talent is in fact quite unproven because his teammate is driving like he lost 80 IQ points
The wierdest part was that Hamilton even brought it up.
Question -"Are you impressed by redbulls/max domination?" Answer -"My TEaMmATeS HaVe AlL BeEN BeTtEr ThAn MaXs TeAmMAtEs!!!!11"
And he’s right, Costcappen is as weak as his teammates
Forget comparing his teammates for a second and compare him to the other drivers on the grid. Hey lewis when was your last win, what 2021, really. Well there you have it folks, 10 in a row compared to zero in the last 2 seasons. Some may say that's not the same because they are different cars, yes but you chose the team you are driving for. Max can't help that mercedes sucks when they don't have a bottomless purse full of money.
@@johnjohnrice585🤓
@@johnjohnrice585poor Pewis Pamilton can't get a win so he tries to undermine Max's achievements. Lmao Get TF outta here kid
@@pixytokisaki1457 the only driver in history to have his title handed to him, manipulated on live tv: Golden Boots Costcappen
Perez was voted Driver of the Year in 2020 and then as soon as hes next to Max hes washed? Doubt. Its far more likely that Max is just THAT much better than anyone on the grid that he makes his teammates look worse than they are, further hinted at by Gasly and Albon's subsequent success.
Is the driver of the year voted by fans like driver of the race?
Perez was alright at best during 2020 it was just sakhir and the chance of red bull to bring in more attention from Spanish speaking fan bases
Driver of the year doesn't mean best driver, just the driver who is judged to have most outperformed their car. Perez has never been fast enough to eclipse a team mate which suggests he isn't a top tier driver such as Alonso or Rosberg
Honestly one must ask, just how fast was that 2020RP some days I honestly believe that Stroll and Perez underachived in that car if I keep it real
@@dlake1224Nah, Perez has outscored and made his teammates look bad before. Problem was that in his prime, his car was mid level at best.
It’s easy to love a teammate who gives up a win to you and can be told by the team to not attack or bowl over your competitors at Hungary
Or have them drive like 10 seconds slower than a typical to block your championship appointment...
In the end it doesn't really matter who their teamates were or are.. If you are of the level of Max Verstappen or Lewis Hamilton, being among the best in F1 ever, you should be able to beat your not god-tier teammate almost always.. This is where Max Verstappen shines over Lewis Hamilton, with Max simply being more consistent than Lewis has ever been.. The fact Nico Rosberg was able to win 7 races in a row vs Lewis and lewis himself only managing 5 in a row speaks volumes.. I'm pretty sure Max will never allow any teammate beating him 7 times in a row.. Lewis every season had and has weekends where he's not on it 100% and/or makes mistakes.. Max always is on it 100% and hardly makes any mistakes, he's like a relentless racing robot..
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This is the point though. Max knows he has absolutely no challenger, so he doesn't have to push as hard and is less likely to make a mistake. Lewis has generally had someone who is closer to him than Perez currently is to Max.
That said, I do think Max is racing on another level at the moment, and probably at a higher level than Lewis has ever raced, but the complete lack of competition makes it a little easier.
@@raybandana So what you actually saying is Lewis cant push hard in the best race car on the grid for 7 years, he will make a mistake ???? Gotcha!!! Max Won 20 races in the 2-4th best car on the grid pushing the car way over the limit of what it suppose to do. Lets see Lewis win a race in the 2/3rd best car on the grid against all odds then we can have a chat. The difference between Lewis and Max is that Max is like a machine when it comes to being consistent, look at Peter Windsor channel and you might learn something about F1.
To be honest I don't think it would matter who his team mate would be in this car, he would make them look ordinary.
it actually doesnt matter who had the toughest teammates, just saying such thing when not on top speaks volume about your personality & character
Lewis just comes off a bitter. It’s crazy how different his attitude and what he says in interviews has changed in just a year or two.
WOULDN'T YOU AFTER ALL THE CRYING REDBULL DID ABOUT MERCEDES
I'm sorry I can't hear you can you type a little bit louder?@@philliptiestopl1511
one approach is denied here: I have never ever heard anybody tell Verstappen's teammate to make space and move out of the way. Yes, on average, Lewis had better teammates, but also he has struggled much more than Verstappen ever did. Having team-orders play a role multiple times per season and losing to his teammates more than ones. Last but not least; it's says a lot that a 7-times WC feels the need to downplay Verstappens achievements. It shows the true colors of this fallen champion, sadly to say...
It was so classless or him. Just be gracious. It’s like they’re saying these ungracious things just to put the spotlight back on themselves…but it’s the wrong kind of spotlight.
My biggest problem is Toto’s and Ham’s lack of class.
Exactly they've completely missed the point LOL
no way prime bottas is lower than sainz 😭😭
I didn’t know Lewis was the only “goat” who didn’t hold some kind of consecutive win record.
becaes he isnt that good...
Max has enough points to win the constructors champoinship on his own, if anything that elevates his performance above hamiltons.
Go to sleep bro
@@Mark-br5svLewis and his fans 🍼 having sleepless nights 🤭
@@ananthu8534 Lewis Whaamilton 👶😭
Lewis did it in 2020
Max did in two years what Lewis couldn't do in 8 years of hardcore mercedes domination
He had competition from other teams as well as interteam competition. Those years either the Redbull and Ferrari where fast enough to win races on merit. RB have 15 straight wins. Redbulls car waaay more dominant than Mercedes at any point in the last 10 years mate.
@@ar1029 Yup, and because of the cost cap and wind tunnel restrictions it's much harder for other teams to catch up now
@@ar1029bullmanure: the Mercs had way more 1-2’s with big leads on the number 3 and were known to turn down their engines to not dominate too much in fear of regulations against their dominance, remember “party mode”?
@@ar1029go read what the mercedes engineers said about their massive advantage in the hybrid era years
ye all he needed was a good team friend in michael massi
Toto and Lewis should focus more on their own performance. They are massively underperforming and creating this media attention only for diversion purposes. And to be frank, with present form, Max would eat Lewis alive in the same car. Any team mate would be no comparison at the moment
I DON'T THINK SO
@@philliptiestopl1511 than don’t think
Doubt it
We can only speculate
Verstappen makes his teammates look bad, while Hamilton makes his teammates look good. There isn't really much else to say here.
I think winning World Championships is what makes Hamilton’s teammates look good
Exactly, Lewis tried to take a dig at Max but accidentially happened to just make himself look worse 😂.
how come Max didn’t make Ricciardo or Sainz look bad and how come from 19 to now he made his teammates look panzy pretty terrible take
@@NovaDaGoat Sainz lost 49 to 18 that is pretty bad. And Ricciardo was trailing Verstappen every race since 2017. He was just extremely lucky that season and reliability issues hit Verstappen very hard that season. There is a reason though why Ricciardo left, 2 seasons of consistently losing on pace to Verstappen.
Also thing to remember is that the midfield was so far behind that Ricciardo could literally finish 50 seconds behind Verstappen and it only being 1 position down.
@@the1gladiator2 Sainz beat him in quali that year it wasn’t a destruction as you make out and Ricciardo and Verstappen were pretty much equal up until mid season of 2018.
Imagine if Max had Seb as a team mate or Alonso, KIMI, Lewis, etc. any of the old legends from the last 20 years. It would be a battle for the ages. 2016 all over again. Max is a phenomenal driver and a soon to be 3 time world champ. I think we are lucky to be able to see this level of dominance again in a driver. Haven’t seen someone absolutely destroy their team mates like Max does since Schumacher.
They would have more voice coverage for speaking about the setup not matching their styles and that is why team principals pair Max with drivers that don't bring much attention towards themselves.
I think Red Bull are trying to poach Leclerc from Ferrari. And the FIA and Liberty Media are pushing for it. Because the sponsors are starting to get mad that it's a one car show up front.
Judged by Leclerc's dismantlement of Seb in 2019 I have 0 doubts Max would have dominated Seb just like he dominates Perez.
The problem with this compare based on rating the respective teammates with points is that the points given might not be against an average norm or a historic norm, but perhaps more as compared to the leading driver (in this case Hamilton and Verstappen). In other words: how good or bad have Lewis and Max made their teammates look?
The other one had rookies or second year drivers mostly. While Lewis had both Alonso and Button immediately after them winning a title. It is not a comparison Max's can win either way.
Valterri didn’t race Lewis 😂😂
Valterri it’s James
How often did we hear that?
And Sergio always bent over for Max and helped him secure his '21 title
Not that often, it just became a meme
@@Sam-te9sj but Valterri didn’t race Hamilton
Correct
@@PerplexedPhoton Sergio didn’t help him get anything. The 2 saftey cars would have meant the race ended the same without Sergio
You should have taken into account the number of years they've been partners in order to calculate the overall force level.
Thanks for the video.
“Valtri… this is James” is an asterisk on many of the results in the record books
My philosophy - it's all a PR move. MB isn't making headline on track so they're pushing it off track. Their consistent mention of upgrades (seems very overblown), calling Ferrari McDonalds employees, etc, is trying to keep themselves in the headlines.
They need to do something at least, got to make Lulu a victim somehow
Yet that's the only interesting thing this season. Just like the liberty ceo said today, they don't care about the races but the entertainment! There you go! You reap what you sow
Go over to planetF1 and you'll see PR 😂
@@jordza2k11English propaganda worked well against Fernando and Seb . These days the sport has grown all across the globe and English media narrations aren't getting their expected importance. Ofcourse Toto , Lewis & their PR team would be dissatisfied with social media exposing them everytime they put an allegation.
Sure but uk media is playing mercs story. 'Typicall dismissive' wtf. Like Brundle said, the only one i could drink a beer with....
Didn’t all MV’s previous team mates start ahead of LH in last race?
How is that relevant to the topic?
Dts fan response really
@@erankimanuHybrid era Lulu fan 🍼 spotted .
You were fooled by Sir Lewis'
"Our Car is Very Slow.We were struggling the whole weekend.I gave it everything" Comment during 2014-2021 seasons.
Formula 1 is a sport that has witnessed many talented drivers over the years. Both Max and Lewis have showcased exceptional skills on the track. If Max had been with Mercedes in the past, there's a possibility he might have achieved 10 race wins plus given the Mercedes team's performance then. Currently Max's consistency and performance in many races have been noteworthy and reminiscent of some of the greats in F1 history. Lewis today is often regarded as one of the finest drivers in the sport and as the legendary Michael Schumacher once said: every record is meant to be broken, and the title of the best driver ever is always up for grabs. Both drivers have their unique strengths, and it's a pleasure to watch them race.
"Valtteri ; this is Toto : let Lewis past" ...😂 , sore winners can be so very graceless
TLDW; Hamilton is stretching the truth bcs he is an envious actor that cannot live with the fact he is no longer the prime driver in F1.
No it isn’t other than hekki and bottas lewis has faced drivers who will be considered some of the best all time potentially bottas as well no one max has faced is an all time great
He's stating facts. It's not easy to win 10 races in a row with a competitive teammate. Max doesn't have competitive teammates.
@@travisfubu9053Lewis had fucking Bottas ffs. The W11 was the most dominant car and he still couldn't win 10 in a row.
Lewis had Bottas...nuff said@@travisfubu9053
Blabla
Ricciardo 9, while Rosberg, world champ, 8?
Bottas is a better driver than ric as well if valterri was driver 1 for a season he can win a wdc but ric is mistake prone probably costing him a title (hypothetically)
Lol at Hamilton's opinion on Bottas vs Perez. They are on similar levels, Bottas was as little of an obstacle to Lewis as Checo is to Max. And both were savaged by the media and fanbase when they were not performing. It was very much noticed when Valtteri only got 2 wins in all of the 2020 season in the incredibly dominant Merc W11
I'd still rate Bottas a bit higher then Perez seeing he had a much better consistency for qualifying. Arguably that gave Hamilton an easier time with strategy making Bottas the blocker. After Rosberg MB wanted a fast qualifier that wouldn't challenge Lewis and they got exactly that. Checo might have better race craft compared to Bottas but it's hard to judge seeing the car is geared more towards Max's driving style, something Bottas didn't have (as much of) a problem with.
Perez is failing to get out of Q1 with the most dominant car in F1 history while Bottas never missed Q3, ever at his time at Merc. Bottas is far clear of Perez.
When determining the average, it was taken into account that Hamilton's 10 out of 10 opponents, i.e. Alonso, were only opponents for a short time and Bottas, for example, for 4 years...? so the meanvalue was weighted?
How come you're rating Sainz for his post RB/TR career, but Gasly and Albon only on their RB spells? Also, there's no way Danny Ric is ahead of two world champions
And finally "Conqueror of Schumacher"? Really? More like "Best positioned to pick up the pieces of the FIA's massacre of Ferrari"
No they did not. They mention how good Sainz is now, just like they mention Gasly's.
Sainz at the time is more impressive against Max at the time than Gasly and Albon against Max in 2019/20
@@camejuanm "Sainz deserves a high score because he has shown himself to be someone who is near the front of the group of drivers right behind the absolute top tier".
When did he do that at Toro Rosso?
"Our Car is Very Slow.We were struggling the whole weekend.I gave it everything"
- Sir Lewis (2014-2021) .
The Race/WTF1's crying noises can be heard in the background of Lewis' press conference 😢.
Hamiltons point is that Max got the 10 wins in a row cos he isn't challenged by his teammate. So then he should have been able to get it against Bottas while the car was so dominant. His highest win streak was 5 wins in a row and he is trying to take away from that achievement of 10 in a row. Pretty odd
But wasn't his point also that Bottas was a more challenging teammate, so saying he should've been able to do it doesn't make much sense as a conclusion to draw from that. Tbh, the reason Max has got the winstreak boils down to: dominant car, dominant driver, unchallenging teammate, number 1 driver/team favourite, unquestionably reliable car, team strategy and luck. And no, I'm not saying that's a bad thing, these are the ingredients you NEED to get a streak like this. For Lewis, if you look at the times his streaks were broken up, a lot of the time team strategy and luck were what let him down. Doesn't take away from Max's achievement but i think its as much or more a redbull achievement than it is one for max.
to me that shows 2 things
1. Lewis Weakness is consistency even rosberg said it i. japan 17 he’s human after all
2. shows how more dominant RB have been in race pace compared to mercs. i think that RB has 0 weakness where as with merc it was either a pit stop error, dtiver error, bad strategy or tyre issues
He's not being challenged buy the 19 other drivers on the grid either. Sainz made the best challenge but at the end was over 11 seconds behind.
I hope Lewis Hamilton trys NASCAR because he will be great racing in a place where contact is always happening and normal.
He will be very good here for sure.
This is not even a joke.
I think he will adapt well to stock car racing.
I completely love how they took us to a deep dive of the driver ranking just to prove Hamilton right 😂
The British media is so biased. one of the few reasons I want the F1 media to go American.
Maybe espn or bein sports should purchase the rights from sky.
They even tried to give Max some points by the heinous ranking of Sainz to Button lmao
It's crazy still but it is what it is
@@owaisahmed5353 Bro I dont know if you know how TV contracts are sorted out on a country basis for F1 ESPN/Bein sports don't really have presence in the UK so how are they gonna buy the UK rights which sky sports currently have to who knows when
@@owaisahmed5353 did you even watch this video? I thought it was a verey fair and balanced argument
Bruh it's not black and white, they say Hamilton is kinda right, but flawed.
Not everything has to be 100% good or 100% bad.
Like Botas was any better at Mercedes than Perez? No way man. They are certainly equal at best.
I felt bad for botas being along side lewis.
Bottas has better pace than Perez just his racecraft sucks relative to Perez at times lol
Bottas got into Q3
You should make this style of video for other champions such as Michael, who didn't have a single champion driver team mate for a full season or other drivers like mansell, prost and senna who have had some rather decorated team mates
Hamilton did have tougher teammates than verstappen, however, I believe if verstappen raced against all of Lewis’ teammates, max wins 9/10 times!
against a prime Alonso. i think Max would be petrified of a just two time champ Alonso
You mean 10/10
@@cafe88racer53he doesn’t beat Alonso
When did Max partake in this "verbal jousting"? He literally does not say anything to neither Lewis nor Toto unless unprovoked by them.
British media bias for you... desperate to give their golden boy professional victim status
Max said a few years ago that Lewis’ teammates haven’t been great. So Max did provoke this 👍🏻
You might wanna check his comments from 2019 when the roles were reversed
The game is always the same game the players just change
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1people nowadays seem to forget that point. They call Lewis and Toto crybabies but what was Horner and Max when Mercs where winning, crybabies as well.
@@puertoricanvtec Listen when people ain't winning they arent gonna be happy
RB probably had more quit threats than I have fingers between 2014-2021 it took them 1 year to start off with their threats lmao
But you know people are gonna try make them look like Saints now cos they're winning
What if Hamilton's teammates seem stronger because Hamilton isn't that good? 🤣 makes more easy to find a teammate who can be competitive
Or Max is really good from early on and was able to cope with a less competitive car and put it in better positions, whereas his teammates post Danny Ric couldn't.
Alonso beat Schumacher twice, Button & Rosberg are also world champions and Rosberg beat Schumacher at Mercedes 👍🏻
Or Lewis's teammates have been stronger. Than max's
Lewis's ex teammates like Fernando and Jenson for example were almost always the better driver when they had other teammates so I do buy that Lewis has had the stronger teammates but I still believe the sheer dominance Max has over his admittedly mid teammates still doesn't have a valid explanation other than that Max is an all time great.
ahah love this 😂👍
Bottas barely keeping with with ham in the merc then getting beat by a rookie as soon as he leaves says enough for me about his driving
No one, not even the drivers themselves will ever admit it but Lewis and Max are more similar than many would care to admit. If they aren't consistently equal with their teammates, they are above them. They are generational talents. Teammates is a but a small factor of their greatness.
Every time I think about giving Lewis the benefit of the doubt, he says something else distasteful. He and Toto are both salty about not being on top. They dominated for 8 years in a row and now they’re this envious about another team having 2 (so far).
KAREN HORNER AND MAX WERE THE SAME
@@philliptiestopl1511 So that's what you want? Your beloved team to be the same as the one you despise?
@@n.b.5258nope, lewis and toto isn't the same as max and horner.
And by the way, merc isn't dominating f1 in 8 years. Merc only dominant in 2014-2016 annd 2020. And you know what? Even when merc in dominant years in 2014-2016 there is still 2 drivers that battle for the wdc. You can't say the same about redbull in their dominance in this era. Even when redbull dominant era in 2010s before the hybrid cars, redbull already have a rules for number 1 and number 2 driver. So it's clearly not the same dominant era between redbull and mercedes.
@@barrysihombing1072 No, those are the years that the Mercedes was more dominant than the RB is now on pace. If you want to pretend like Ferrari was going to win between 2017-2019, that's on you.
If you really analyze the situation, Toto basically called himself a awful competitor who is garbage by saying that MV winning streak is nothing. I mean, if he’s saying that Max winning is irrelevant then the competition he’s beating (him) is even more irrelevant and nothing but a speed bump. Food for thought.
Imagine ranking near rookie Sainz an 8/10 on the same level as Rosberg lol
Let’s not forget that Verstappen has beaten Hamilton’s teammates while they were in the better car. You have to put some weight on that too.
Is Hamilton getting out qualified by Williams since the summer break because he has a stronger teammate than Max? 😂
Ricciardo ranked higher than Button & Rosberg who both won WDC’s is nuts.
RIC would have cleaned up in that Brawn as most decent drivers would have. Car was probably equal to 2014 Merc in terms of dominance over field. I still remember at Melbourne when the Brawns' qualified at the front with almost full tanks of fuel.
@@de1623idk how you can support RIC being better than ROS and BUT given his seasons with McLaren
Prime ricciardo (the same one that was being matched by a teenage max) would have smoked rosberg and button. Yes they are world champions but jenson got lucky with being in the right team at the right time and nico got very lucky with Malaysia 2016
@@zaynsadiq5536 just like how ricciardo got unlucky with max showing up and stealing his thunder?
There’s no point to doing what ifs in your head if facts don’t support it. Fact is, Jenson and Rosberg have ALWAYS been able to extract the most from their car, prime period or not. Jenson is easily the smoothest driver I’ve seen and Rosberg took everything he had to defeat Hamilton.
Ricciardo couldn’t handle the pressure of an emerging max and where did that leave him? Floundering in a McLaren against someone younger than him AGAIN.
Ricciardo for sure would have been a WDC if not for the emergence of the generational talents like max and lando and Leclerc and now possibly Piastri.
Keep in mind both Jenson and Rosberg won their WDCs while their era’s generational talents were on the grid still
@@JohnWickedd button won in a car that was fastest by a country mile and nico got lucky with lewis' engine going kaput
In 2014 and 2015, Lewis was way ahead in terms of points to Nico, even though they had the same amount of dnfs and Lewis had more dnfs in 2014. That just shows how much Nico has to give to win the 2016 championship. In 2016, the points were very close between them, if Lewis didn’t have 1 more dnf, what could have happened.
In 2015 Lewis dominated Nico legit but in 2014 the points gap is as big as it is because there were double points in the final race. Lewis won that, where as Nico had reliability issues and finished out of the points. 2014 was actually pretty close, don't forget that Nico led the championship for most of the season.
@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 yeah, I didn’t know about the double points on final race. It is close.
People saying button is underrated are forgetting how bad in qualifying he was, he got outqualified by his teammate 60% of the time. Also, he got beat by fischella, r.schumacher, trulli and barrichelo in the same car. His stats against alonso and hamilton completely flatter him, as hamilton and alonso had so much more bad luck. He was a very good race driver, but could only perform if the car was perfectly balanced.
Max is superior than all teammates and all drivers as well bc he doesn't make that many mistakes as others including Ham. Thats why it looks much easier for him. The guy is a robot/machine with his consistency.
Breaking all his team mates one by one, hard to be the new team mate of Max.
@@mushie8447 He drove 2 of them literally "to tears".............
U forgetting how many crashed he did?
Max has more collision DNFs than Lewis and Lewis has been in f1 longer than him but I agree this season he has been perfect but you could ague the same with Lewis being machine especially in 2020 but Max has an advantage tho because his car is miles better and faster than anyone else so it's easy for him to preform better but at the end of the day you need a good driver and a good car to win and Max is extremely talented
Took him a while to get there however.
It’s difficult to overcome a competitors success.
Everybody should remember that they aren't just racing their team mate but all 19 drivers on the grid and to be as dominant as each respective driver is/was is something special a "once in generation talent" that we as fans get to enjoy week in and week out
Not only that but neither chose who their teammates would be. Also the way Red Bull operates will probably not see two world class drivers.
One thing overlooked here is that LH has been in F1 much longer than MV and thus he has had 8 more years of team mates. It would also seem to me that both Mercedes and RB decided to "play it safe" with team mates after the Rosberg and Ricciardo periods which ended in 2016 and 2018 respectively. But, comparing apples to oranges, yes LH is right he has had tougher team mates.
Could Hamilton live with Max today in the same car ? I doubt it, always thought Lewis was over rated. I like when they said the year Rosberg won the world title it was because Lewis had all his car trouble forgetting it was Nico who had all the problems the year before.
I just looked at wikipedia, 2014 lewis has more dnf than nico, 2015 the same amount of dnf, 2016 more dnf than nico. And also the 2014 and 2015, lewis was way ahead in terms of points. In 2016, the points were very close. If ham didn’t get 1 more dnf, what could have happened?
You gonna respond to the Facts the Last Comment made??
Sainz 8/10 higher than Bottas 6/10? Wait what?
Can't believe The Race actually bought that stuff about Hamilton doing "experimental work" He wasn't forced to experiment, he was experimenting with his own setups. Russell found a good setup and stuck with it.
Before his McLaren years I would have no hesitation placing RIC in front of Button and Rosberg. Even the way he thrashed Ocon and Hulkenberg at renault was amazing. Hulk got dumped because of it.
Its partially true but its also just Hamilton doing all he can to stay in the spot light and headlines.
Hamilton isn't wrong, but even if Lewis was the other Red Bull driver I still think Max would have a healthy lead in the Championship. Not nearly as much as he has now, but at this time Max is easily the best driver on the grid. And I think Max might even drive better if he was being pushed by someone close to his level (which out of the current drivers would be only Hamilton and Alonso). If Max is able to keep this up for a full career there will be no doubt he was the greatest driver of all time. ...and this is coming from a Hamilton fan.
You are dreaming or high... Max greatest of all time 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I don't know about a healthy lead, but as a Hamilton fan, I also agree that Max would still win if they were both driving the same car. I still can't fully give it to Max though since we don't know how much Hamilton still has to give if he had a car with the same level of performance and he's shown in 2021 that when given another chance, his race pace can suddenly become untouchable.
All of Max's former teammates beating botas 😂
Not a max or lewis fan but i agree with lewis for the most part. Alonso, Button and Rosberg are head and shoulders above even Ricciardo (Bottas and Kovalinen definitely arent however)
Which is wild because Bottas made short work of even Ricciardo in feeder. I wonder what changed.
Every top team wants drivers who are capable of winning, Max happend to be the perfect match, RB did look for other compatible drivers, but in the end max is leading the championship on his own, why would you take the risk putting Alonso next to Max and risking a lot and creating tension within the team for statistically more points...A solid P2 driver every team would be happy with that could grab some wins if the number one driver fails. But if you not have a top car, you want two drivers that fight for some points...That is the only reason why Mercedes wanted to keep Bottas, solid P2 driver.
@mushie8447 yeah for sure, I don't think it takes away from verstappen at all, you don't accidentally win 3 championships even with controversial circumstances. But until I see verstappen up against a norris or leclerc i don't think I'll agree that he's been fully challenged by someone in equal machinery (tho arguably 2021)
"They have no competition" and "we had two drivers who were fighting" is just bullshit. Rosberg and Hamilton were fighting, after that, the races were just a "Valtteri, it's James" compilation. Insane how much they are talking down the current achievements of RedBull, when it was no different or even worse during their dominance. I mean, watching Perez you clearly see that its not "just the car", Max is just really quick and delivers race after race, while Bottas was basically always the fixed number 2 and was asked to let Lewis pass.
i like videos from you guys but I often feel like they run out of steam halfway through. This video was great as it kept introducing new information throughout!
Hamilton’s statement would be true if he was Max’s teammate.
They literally don't want to give the first two spots to Hamilton's rivals and kicked Rosberg to the third place behind Dany Ric lol
I am not even talking about disrespecting Button, putting him behind Sainz, it is just insane hahaha
The Race needs to edit this video...
Its compared to their teammate at the time.
@@_________. Oh really genius!
Verstappen was ahead of Sainz in 2015 comfortably given his young age and Sainz was rookie, too.
Button was in his peak championship time of his career when he was a teammate of Hamilton.
Another bad example is putting Rosberg behind Ric. You kidding me, right?
This whole top 5 in the list needs to be shuffled again…
I am not a fan of both drivers, Max and Ham, but the amount of disrespect against Button and Rosberg is just so much…
I’m honestly disappointed y’all didn’t compare the average difference over the season between the two drivers and then rank based on what the average differences in lap time for teammates instead of a feel rating.
Nobody rates Senna, Prost, Schumacher, Fangio, etc on who had the best teammate. They were just great. For the winningest driver ever to feel the need to make this argument… sad.
Well, the answer is Prost ;) He had 5 world champions as teammates: Rosberg, Hill, Mansell, Lauda and Senna. And he finished ahead of all of them across a season.
If Hamilton isn’t as good as max of course he teammates will be closer. Also when Mercedes dominated max could get up there and win races. When red bull/max is dominant nobody else is winning races.
Great comparison although I think Nico gave ham a much harder time than Riccardo to max
So I'd definitely put Nico rosberg above Daniel Riccardo
Also Jenson button is also a better driver than Riccardo so I'd scale him above Riccardo too
@@sadeksama5057you guys are comparing by how they did against Lewis and Max, which is not an objective comparison, since the measuring unit is different. If Bottas did better v Lewis than Checo did v Max, it doesn't mean Bottas is the better driver. It's a worthless
comparison, like apples to oranges.
@@adriancojocaru5846 No
I am saying that nico is a better driver than Riccardo
@@sadeksama5057 and that is based on what? Personal opinion? You are entitled to it, but it doesn't make you right. Although I agree with you on this one, we'll never have an unbiased answer based on a real and factual comparison.
Solid review. I still don't see the need for Hamilton's comments. Perhaps he is jealous that the spot light is no longer focused on him. That is a tough thing to let go of.
Strong team mates push you, thats good ( Hamilton ). Max had to do it by himself.