Everything About Toyota IFS | Suspension Construction and Limits | Part 1

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 22. 07. 2024
  • If you are researching suspension upgrades/lifts for your Toyota FJ Cruiser, 4Runner, Tacoma, Prado, Lexus GX470, or GX460, this highly technical 2-part video series will equip you with all the fundamentals about Toyota's independent front suspension (IFS). In part 1 video, we will explore the suspension construction and limits. You will see many detailed measurements on suspension travel, what exactly happens when you lift it and why you might want to consider extended travel coilovers.
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    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro and Overview
    1:42 Construction and Components
    6:08 Suspension Travel and Limits
    11:57 Part II Preview
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  • @chibu3972
    @chibu3972 Pƙed 2 lety +37

    Literally spent 2 weeks looking for less-than-all of the information in this video. For what ungodly reason has the CZcams algorithm not skyrocketed this channel? Please keep giving us amazing content like this.

    • @numbr17
      @numbr17 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

      I agree. This is probably some of the best real world info about suspension. I love Kai's videos.

    • @gnawty4662
      @gnawty4662 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

      Couldn’t agree more. CZcams actively suppressing this guy on my algorithm. I’m here now!

  • @Icantseeme
    @Icantseeme Pƙed 2 lety +68

    Learned more in 10 minutes than thousands of hours on CZcams. Sucks that not everyone likes to learn how things work.

  • @myronjohnson6372
    @myronjohnson6372 Pƙed 2 lety +134

    How is this channel not blowing up! Great in-depth information and the editing of the video is spot on.

    • @TinkerersAdventure
      @TinkerersAdventure  Pƙed 2 lety +8

      Thank you! Help me spread the word!

    • @Gemini_0815
      @Gemini_0815 Pƙed rokem +5

      It’s probably too hard to understand these things for the majority of car content chasers. They want drag races with teslas, not valuable content 😂

    • @Toastert4co
      @Toastert4co Pƙed rokem +1

      @@Gemini_0815 unfortunately the average yota owner doesn’t care to research and just goes to a shop for basic suspension setup and calls it a day.

    • @Gemini_0815
      @Gemini_0815 Pƙed rokem

      @@Toastert4co yes. Toyota customers also have very low expectations, in my experience. How Toyota does it, I have no idea. But they certainly have an excellent sales force, maintaining the myth of reliability and durability. So customers are willing to ignore the poor performance of Toyota cars and trucks when it comes to vehicle dynamics and comfort. Don’t get me wrong, I like my Prado. But it’s a long way behind the New Defender for example. I wouldn’t trade, because I like my car. But the fanboy attitude is beyond me.

    • @danmartinez9497
      @danmartinez9497 Pƙed rokem +1

      ​@@Toastert4co that's exactly the case here in Dubai, the shops do everything.. the average 4 wheeler has no clue what he's driving only that it's cool looking

  • @ryannance9673
    @ryannance9673 Pƙed rokem +3

    The amount of work it takes to film one of his videos, from the movement demonstrations to tearing down his rig and just overall quality

  • @junfenggao
    @junfenggao Pƙed 2 lety +102

    This video is a gold mine!! Best explanations ever I’ve heard about lifted trucks. Can’t wait for the next part!! Amazing works Kai!!!

  • @sdparksMS3
    @sdparksMS3 Pƙed rokem +11

    I just paused this video midway to comment that this is some of the highest quality content I've ever seen on suspensions (and overall, actually). Completely focused and perfectly concise. I'm very impressed so far!

  • @hjstrater
    @hjstrater Pƙed 2 lety +6

    As a Jeep guy I’m not sure how I got to the Toyota side of CZcams but this was incredibly well presented and very informative. 👍

    • @MrJEEPJT
      @MrJEEPJT Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

      He’s got excellent presentation and knowledge. Shows the “COMPLEXITIES” of the independent front suspension đŸ€”đŸ§â€Š.
      I will stay with a solid front axle less complex,more robust.

  • @mgyexpedition8155
    @mgyexpedition8155 Pƙed 2 lety +26

    Very very impressive in-depth review and demo! I don't remember seeing one like this on CZcams. This guy makes other suspension explanation videos look like elementary student work

  • @jvogler_art4708
    @jvogler_art4708 Pƙed 2 lety +18

    Absolutely love this series. I always knew I wanted to lift my 4Runner no more than an inch or two because I feel heavily lifted rigs were so excessive and unnecessary. People get obsessed with fitting bigger tires, but with that you’re going to increase weight, need lower gearing, drop the diff and with all of that you’ve now taken a beautifully engineered vehicle and changed it to something untested. You’re also going to effect CV angles (they break all the time) you’re going to raise your center of gravity and risk toppling over, and you’re going to lose down travel at the cost of increase up travel.
    Super interesting to see you test the diminishing returns you see in travel and articulation. My goal will be to maximize my travel and articulation while maintaining ride quality and factory reliability. I cannot wait to see your video on sway bars cause my next purchase was going to be detachable sway bar end links

    • @bruiser6479
      @bruiser6479 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      My stepson has bought an older single cab Hilux. He doesn’t even have his license, but has embarked on “improving” it. He has lifted it by 4 inches and wants to put oversize wheels on it. I am quietly confident that he will be breaking driveline and suspension components as he also has a heavy right foot. I would love him to watch this video, but I doubt that he will.

    • @DavidRamirez-fe5dd
      @DavidRamirez-fe5dd Pƙed 2 lety

      With longer suspension uograded you gain upper and lower travel. . He said so on the video. Dunno confused

    • @jvogler_art4708
      @jvogler_art4708 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@DavidRamirez-fe5dd watch part two. He’s taking about extended coils, most lifts are stock coil size, adjusted with preload. Which comes with its own set of problems.

    • @jvogler_art4708
      @jvogler_art4708 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@bruiser6479 I looove the hilux. I would focus on making sure that truck runs perfect with no misfires and such before doing anything to the suspension. They do make good rock crawlers, especially with the solid axle.

    • @bruiser6479
      @bruiser6479 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@jvogler_art4708 I totally agree. Unfortunately my stepson doesn’t. My advice to him was to leave the vehicle stock and to only change things when there was an objective necessity to. He really has no understanding whatsoever of how vehicles are designed to be a coherent system. He is adamant he wants to learn from his own mistakes as opposed to other peoples mistakes.

  • @LaurentMarshall
    @LaurentMarshall Pƙed 2 lety +23

    Thanks for putting this together! I haven't seen anyone else give this good of an explanation of the Toyota IFS... this was a fantastic concise overview of the suspension and all its major components and their functions! Really valuable info as a new 4runner owner thinking about mods for overlanding/offroading.

  • @devrimhusrevoglu4356
    @devrimhusrevoglu4356 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Thank you for going into the technical details, what a great suspension video. Awesome job!

  • @gordon926
    @gordon926 Pƙed rokem

    Kai your videos have the best explanations of how these trucks work. Thank you so much!

  • @davidcho8259
    @davidcho8259 Pƙed 2 lety

    This video provided the most information on CZcams including the all those manufactures. Great works!

  • @Desertpunk1986
    @Desertpunk1986 Pƙed rokem +1

    I just shared this with all my none Toyota guys as well. Solid info here! Thank you.

  • @aaronmosser
    @aaronmosser Pƙed 2 lety

    Thanks for another great video. I like how you break everything down so all can understand

  • @grschryer
    @grschryer Pƙed rokem

    I've been looking for an explanation like this forever!!! Thank you!

  • @tomfrancis9291
    @tomfrancis9291 Pƙed rokem

    I subbed to this channel after watching 2 minutes of the first video I came across. This is some of the most useful and best presented info about offroad ifs suspension.

  • @rhcockrum8746
    @rhcockrum8746 Pƙed rokem +1

    Some great information that was very clearly explained. Thanks for the time and effort. Five Stars!

  • @philgriswold2133
    @philgriswold2133 Pƙed rokem

    Best explanation of IFS I have ever watched. Thank you.

  • @dausas
    @dausas Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Thank you for the video. We’ll thought out with plenty of data points yet your explanations are very easy to follow. Keep up the great work.đŸ‘đŸœ

  • @mark.esposito
    @mark.esposito Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Great information. Thank you for the technical focus and great intuitive demonstrations of every components role. Looking forward to more videos from you.

  • @LarryCoffer
    @LarryCoffer Pƙed 2 lety

    I have zero mechanical experience and this was clear for me to understand! Thank you for your channel!

  • @dmac9777
    @dmac9777 Pƙed 2 lety

    Dude went to town on this. The definitive guide to IFS. Top work.

  • @r0b0saurusrex80
    @r0b0saurusrex80 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Hidden Gem of a video.. just found this channel yesterday and now I am hooked. Also by you adding the Prado you are providing info the Land down undAH would appreciate too... looking forward to watching the whole series.

  • @jasonsledge7900
    @jasonsledge7900 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    This is some of the best Toyota content. Very thorough and well said. More videos please!

  • @FreedomAtRisk
    @FreedomAtRisk Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +2

    Just ordered new shocks, UCAs, LCAs and tie rods for my 120k mile TRD Pro. And because of your content, I understood what I was buying!

  • @ronaldrussell5481
    @ronaldrussell5481 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thank you very much for doing this analysis! When you just read a description of why this or that is bad, or has such and such an effect, it is difficult for me to visualize, so thank you for "showing" me.

  • @MrKillerHobbes
    @MrKillerHobbes Pƙed rokem

    Best fuggin explanations ever in all your vids, every sentence with purpose, no repeating bs! keep killing it bro!

  • @matthiasice
    @matthiasice Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Great stuff! Shared it with my local "Utah Toyota Off Road" facebook group. Useful info for people new to suspension mods.

  • @Anthony-Parsons
    @Anthony-Parsons Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Amazing video. Thank you for making what I thought was a complicated setup, simplified for the average person to understand. Thank you.

  • @jamesvo3709
    @jamesvo3709 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    We really appreciate these videos. This kinda stuff is truly adding to the great good/knowledge of the Toyota community.

  • @DeuceDeuceBravo
    @DeuceDeuceBravo Pƙed 2 lety

    Fantastic video. This should be required viewing for all truck owners. Thank you!

  • @stevegoodwin5841
    @stevegoodwin5841 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Amazing wealth of information of the IFS and its engineering and limitations in change of certain aspects, pros and cons. Well presented so that a layman can understand. Great job.

  • @stay_in_adventure
    @stay_in_adventure Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Oh boy, now I want to modify my bump stop to gain that last bit of articulation. Can't wait for part two!

  • @kevinrug
    @kevinrug Pƙed 2 lety

    I never comment on youtube videos but this is gold. Best explanation about IFS and lifts in general I've seen.

  • @ihorsahan615
    @ihorsahan615 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    This is exactly what I’ve been looking for. Can’t thank you enough! Keep up the good work!

  • @shredfest30
    @shredfest30 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Finally..!!!!! I love all these technical aspects you present here, thank you for taking the time to finally explain everything to the world.. Looking forward to the next one!

  • @davidwhiterod3148
    @davidwhiterod3148 Pƙed rokem +2

    This is pure gold-I really appreciate how you neatly explain the role each element plays and how they build on each other. Many thanks. Subbed!

  • @numbr17
    @numbr17 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

    I love these videos. As a person not new to cars, but new to off-roading and 4x4s, these are fantastic, and really helpful. Nice work!

  • @rockmanagementoffroad9462

    Great video man! It took me years of scrounging the forums to find the info you present here. Thanks!

  • @GrizzlyPath
    @GrizzlyPath Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Incredibly well put together overview. I’m definitely looking forward to seeing the next videos!

  • @TheRockasaki
    @TheRockasaki Pƙed rokem +1

    What a fantastic channel!! Well done, Kai!! Subscribed!

  • @opinionsevrywhere
    @opinionsevrywhere Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Thank you Kai. Your passion about engineering comes through clearly in your videos. You have a gift for sharing the information with others too. Great job with the videography and editing.

  • @miguelsouderado3459
    @miguelsouderado3459 Pƙed 2 lety

    FINALLY! A data driven video and mechanic. Liked and subbed.

  • @madcratebuilder
    @madcratebuilder Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Outstanding job on total travel, droop and how the extended C/O works.

  • @JasonPMcElroy
    @JasonPMcElroy Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Fantastic video. Nice work. For me, conceptual explanations (especially those backed by measurements and examples) are far more useful than procedural or anecdotal ones. Great video.

  • @PNWJEEPER01
    @PNWJEEPER01 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I don't even have an ifs rig, but I still learned a ton. You're a rockstar, dude!

  • @MrEvisc3rator
    @MrEvisc3rator Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

    This is probably one of the best videos i've actually ever seen explaining an IFS setup. well done

  • @buzz7927
    @buzz7927 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    This guy really knows his stuff, some of our aftermarket fitters could learn something from him.

  • @jchancalifornia
    @jchancalifornia Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Awesome explanation of the IFS components, operation, limitations and guidance on optimal configurations.
    Being a learn by seeing and doing guy, I appreciate the visuals and breakdown structure of the video (lessons). I feel fairly confident in wrenching my own suspension upgrade. Brilliant!
    Subscribed.

  • @pauldelasaux5756
    @pauldelasaux5756 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    If you keep making these comprehensive videos, I'll keep watching and sharing them. Excellent work. Please make some 4Runner parts. Your FJ front bumper is next level. Thank you for the quality and cheers to your inevitable future success.

  • @olsmxl6975
    @olsmxl6975 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

    You have an increbible talent to explain things simply in a way that are easy to absorb by others. I have forwarded your links to several friends and they say the same thing. I am a neophyte but learned so much in 2 videos. I don't see any videos discussing what you do with the rear suspension once you modify the front and/or change tires. subscribed!

  • @nathansingle9698
    @nathansingle9698 Pƙed rokem +1

    I've watched most of your videos now and what you are explaining to people, is what I've been telling people for years and sometimes the information hasn't been taken nicely. Now I can just refer them to your videos to explain it all! Thank you and keep these up!

  • @toyotadiesel4970
    @toyotadiesel4970 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    The best technical video i've seen, ever. And I have seen a lot. This needs more subscribers and views.

  • @pierogillio
    @pierogillio Pƙed 2 lety

    Your video just blow my mind, it was exact what I was looking for THANK YOU A LOT

  • @Absolute_Unit135
    @Absolute_Unit135 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +1

    It would be awesome if you did this same IFS breakdown on other popular IFS trucks like the F150. That way we could know what the actual limits of geometry are. The information you provide is extremely helpful.
    Thanks for making these videos!

  • @reubadoob
    @reubadoob Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

    This video is 2 years old and it is some of the best car YT I've seen in my life.

  • @Cougnut5150
    @Cougnut5150 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Words cannot describe how much your videos help

  • @PLEASE111111113
    @PLEASE111111113 Pƙed rokem +2

    Incredible videos, my friend!! I would pay for this level of detailed explanation, it's so cool I don't have to. Thank you so much!

  • @donotbother8545
    @donotbother8545 Pƙed rokem +1

    I rarely comment or subscribe to channels but this vid is definitely worth it. Thanks for making the video and explaining the IFS suspension in such simple terms.

  • @spudsmccallaghan
    @spudsmccallaghan Pƙed rokem +2

    Your videos are incredibly informative and well put together. Thank you!

  • @dixonbuttes6564
    @dixonbuttes6564 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    This is solidly the most informative and rational channel about Toyota off-road design on the internet. Subscribed, liked, and thankful for the presentation of informed analysis on this topic! Amazing.

  • @IYALM
    @IYALM Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +1

    This should have 1M+ views. Thank you for such an excellent explanation!

  • @testtesttesttesttest884
    @testtesttesttesttest884 Pƙed rokem +4

    I can not believe how good your videos are, the pacing, the graphics, you have a real knack for this.

  • @srvmotoman
    @srvmotoman Pƙed rokem +1

    Fantastic video! This save everyone days/weeks/months of searching forums for explanation of how suspension works and all parts associated. Now research on the forums is more focused and helping people make a better decision about lifting. Superb job and video!

  • @Amrgheith2
    @Amrgheith2 Pƙed rokem +1

    Man, you rock. You make enthusiasts like me understand complex IFS setup.
    My Land Cruiser 100 has a tortion bar. I wish to see a video show us how to setup a proper lift for LC 100.

  • @jason.scissorfeet
    @jason.scissorfeet Pƙed rokem

    I have watched and re-watched this so many times. Its a great reference. CZcams needs to install a counter for how many times you watch a video. I bet i've watched this 10x over the last year

  • @vanhap
    @vanhap Pƙed 2 lety +2

    This is truly first class knowledge and so well done.

  • @dallasvanwyk
    @dallasvanwyk Pƙed 2 lety

    Great video. Watching this should be prerequisite to asking any suspension-related question on a forum or Facebook group

  • @jeddadog1689
    @jeddadog1689 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Best explanation of IFS and can’t wait for Part 2 with the answers

  • @ltrezona
    @ltrezona Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

    Kai, amazing content! I am a complete Newb to all of this, the only experience I have had is buying the truck off the lot. LOL. Learned a lot about IFS and how the wheels and steering works. Thanks man!!!! I'll definitely check out your design site.

  • @mattwhuntley
    @mattwhuntley Pƙed rokem +1

    Looking forward to part 2!

  • @outdooraussie6355
    @outdooraussie6355 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Just came across your channel mate. Superb. I'm probably the world's worst mechanic... and your explanations and visuals are the best I've seen regarding ifs suspension components. I'll be binge watching all your other videos. Great stuff. Keep them coming. Cheers đŸ»

  • @wujohn598
    @wujohn598 Pƙed rokem

    All I can say is one will need some real insights and a big brain to make these videos! keep them coming!

  • @jessereynolds9013
    @jessereynolds9013 Pƙed rokem +2

    Excellent video, thanks so much for making it. You seem to have a great balance of practical and theoretical knowledge. I learned a lot.

  • @tombregman2875
    @tombregman2875 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    WOW! This is undoubtedly the BEST explanation of a suspension system that I have ever seen. Clear, concise, organized and very well presented. Thank you! *SUBSCRIBED*

  • @roskataqv
    @roskataqv Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I'm not into off road driving but the technical level of these videos is awesome!

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael Pƙed měsĂ­cem +1

    What a Great Informative and Educational video as Always @Tinkerer's Adventure

  • @evansmith4767
    @evansmith4767 Pƙed 2 lety

    This is absolutely the best video on this topic! A ++

  • @davidrucci
    @davidrucci Pƙed 2 lety

    You’re a mad Toyota scientist and I love it! Thank you bro! Can’t wait to see the vid on sway bars! â€ïžđŸ‘ŒđŸ€™

  • @martinravina6934
    @martinravina6934 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Mate, awesome production value and determination to obtain relevant data. Much respect! Looking forward to the sway bar video. Currently getting some weird noises from the front one after a 2 inch lift IFS Prado 90 SWB. Really interested in understanding how the geometry works and what can be done. Cheers!

  • @rob45x
    @rob45x Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Awesome video. I can't wait for the sway dedicated video. Very good work !

  • @gregmgm06
    @gregmgm06 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Fantastic information!! Very cool to see you run the suspension through its travel. Great information, subscribed.

  • @agentchowdown4938
    @agentchowdown4938 Pƙed rokem +2

    Great video! You should do one about how to get more droop, like using a diff drop, and how a small half inch spacer would work with an already extended travel coilover, and what upper control arms maximize droop, and how that comes into play when trying to clear the body mount for a high caster wheel alignment

  • @robertjustin1291
    @robertjustin1291 Pƙed 2 lety

    I'm pretty sure you are going to blow up on you tube. Solid info!! Thank you sir, you got my subscription and I wish you great success

  • @realrigsrattle8829
    @realrigsrattle8829 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    This video should be required watching before logging into any group or forum to ask what/how much lift. Thank you so much for your hard work.

  • @jeremylstewart
    @jeremylstewart Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Nice!!! Very thorough explanations and great editing!!!
    Keep up the good work!

  • @yangthao4612
    @yangthao4612 Pƙed rokem +1

    I learned more in this one video than hundreds of hours on forum’s 😱

  • @jd2murray
    @jd2murray Pƙed 2 lety

    Amazingly well organized and thought through. Great video!

  • @degvello21
    @degvello21 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    +1 Awesome and informative! Probably the best explanation I saw. Simple and through

  • @16GZ
    @16GZ Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I love this video so much, not only because you explained everything clearly with details and great quality of video footage, but also you quantified and summarized the before-and-after changes with numbers and charts. Can't wait of the next part! Great work Kai!

  • @wedointernetpros
    @wedointernetpros Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Great great great stuff! I am not a mechanic but love to (and should) understand how it all works especially if planning to off road ( not extreme).

  • @Cougnut5150
    @Cougnut5150 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    This guy is going to make tons of money once this channel gets more exposure. He sticks out amongst the competition.

  • @abstractholiday
    @abstractholiday Pƙed 2 lety

    Fantastic and well organized information.

  • @netybar7136
    @netybar7136 Pƙed 2 lety

    As a alignment mechanic I love this dude !!

  • @isomr3b51
    @isomr3b51 Pƙed 2 lety

    Great video! I really appreciate the clarity and high quality production. I am subscribed!

  • @theregoesmiller389
    @theregoesmiller389 Pƙed rokem +1

    I RANDOMLY stumbled across your channel and i have to say. ive watched 4-5 videos STRAIGHT , back to back.
    i love your layout and your delivery of information etc.
    you would make a GREAT tv show / educational channel for shop classes / school etc. just solely based on how you make things so visual and simplify things.
    i wish / hope the best for you and your channel.
    i hope the FJ market comes down again so i can get my first "truck / 4x4" ! ( never was truck guy till the last few yrs )
    all i have been watching is FJ videos.
    please keep this style content coming ! ( ps , i loved your sway bar video )

  • @thingsibuild7534
    @thingsibuild7534 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Can't wait for you sway bar video.

  • @josh1804josh
    @josh1804josh Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Love these videos my guy. Please keep them coming. So educational.

  • @sciCHD
    @sciCHD Pƙed rokem +1

    Very informative video, clear and precise