GRAND FINALS: Maru vs. Serral (IEM Katowice 2024)
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- It finally happened! Maru vs. Serral in the IEM Katowice 2024 finals battling for the title of the ultimate Starcraft 2 GOAT.
Match: Maru vs. Serral
Tournament: IEM Katowice 2024
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The starcraft 2 tournament IEM Katowice boasts a $500,000 prizepool and features some of the best starcraft players in the world.
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Shit finals
@@Foudzing Why?
@@Metaspace2 because it was not interesting Maru had no chances.
If terran wants to win vs zerg at the highest level of play he has to do dumb allins and pray zerg doesn't scout and fucks up like olivera did last year, playing the macro game against a good zerg = lose.
no, thats just serral, no other european, american or asian has his level. No more tears, only dreams now.@@Foudzing
Serral played one of his best series ever. The fungals in game 2, the aggresive openings, the overall patience and the efficiency. He is a class of his own.
yeah, he played great especially after terran nerf. Total skill dominance.
@@Contractor48you are stupid
@@Contractor48 widow buff, Cyclone buff, medivac buff, Bane nerf, infestor nerf, lurker nerf, broodling nerf,
OMG TERRAN NERF!!1!
@@andrewduan5123 what buff? Cyclone and window mine buff? Don't want it.
I am complaing about the same thing as you. The older one was better. Remove all nerf and buff from zerg and revert the "buff" from terran. The old ghosts, cyclones, old raven with anti armor damage and auto turrets are needed. And window mines without armory.
@@Contractor48 the most useless in terran the air ship it turn like a tiny bugs to air flyer of zerg imagine you have spaceship but you cant fly fast and the armor so low even he can fire air to air but can't fire land unlike to Zerg flyer it's multi roll faster more armore can auto heal can attack land and air so I can say Zerg so OP at all specially the fungal can crawl in the ground without detecting and the banelings can destroy the whole place in a split seconds
Look at that face, Serral is frustated!
Serral: 😐
you made me spit water to my monitor lmao
Serral's gotta be happy about that one!
Serral: 😐
tbf he does occasionally hit a very rare 🙄@@ClearAlera
You can see Serral's face, he realises he's up against the wall!
Serral: 😐
Google "steven segal emotion chart", its applicable to Serral
Here's the big game worth watching in the US today.
Watching this instead: no regrets
Wait, people consider the other event a "game" to watch?
I always thought that was a music show or something.
@@juliuskwak1263 I thought it was a what are the best adverts of the year highlights video source
@@juliuskwak1263correct
@@mariusevander2214also correct
Toss needs a buff but DAMN, Serral dropped ONE map this entire tournament absolutely insane!
I honestly dont think Toss is underpowered, people just dont like playing as toss. Reynor showed that, he took up Toss and was instantly like top 5 toss in the world. The race isnt bad, just that skilled players prefer other races.
@@crazzynezmore so toss players are stuck having *FUN* rather than winning
@@crazzynez hahaha Reynor top 5 Protoss World? Not at all 🤣🤣
The main problem for Toss is NOT balance but the skill of the players.
Just look at the last series Hero vs Serral - Serral won 4:1. But game 3 was the biggest throw I have EVER seen in any Starcraft game.
Hero can play awesome - and then again he plays bad. Bad compared to other top players not like in “he plays like you and me”.
If you are this inconsistent you won’t go far, it’s simple as that.
I agree that the Ghost is a problem in TvP, but in general, the Toss players are just not as good as the Terran and Zerg players. That's why they don't win tournaments.
And it is not only me who is saying this. Harstem e.g. said it too.
@@wedgeantilles8575 They dont win Tournaments cause Protoss is the weakest race. "TeRrAnS aNd ZeRgS aRe JuSt BeTtEr". Low IQ
This was both glorious and sad.
Why sad?
Because Maru is an excellent player but he always seems to be on the back foot because he plays Terran and Terran is nerfed to hell.
@@mgyldz ok, bro. go back to bed.
This was just an excellent series. Both players played very very well.
Lol Maru got absolutely wrecked. It's almost boring watching him play Serral.
@@colinfaust3058 Yeah, Serral has something like a 90% winrate in the knock-out stages against Maru. 2 years ago somebody posted a comment after Serral destroyed Maru: “Serral makes Maru look like somebody I could beat” - that sums it up pretty nicely. And yet you always find people in chat who claim Maru is the GOAT…
@@wedgeantilles8575 Well it says a lot. Because Maru is definitely the GOAT of Terrans. There are no Terran in SC2 that were ever better overall than Maru, not even Innovation or TY or Taeja. So that speaks volume if the greatest Terran can't beat the greatest Zerg 9/10 times. I'll be honest, Serral is indeed really really incredible, but the balance at the top between Zerg and Terran seem rather imperfect. If the Zerg doesn't make any blunder and applies constant pressure like Serral does, the Terran is going to bleed. For the simple reason that Zerg units are much more mobile and in a late game battle where you gotta split your units to defend multiple bases, Zergs will for sure be able to draw first blood. Now, does that mean that Serral only beats Maru because he's a Zerg? For sure not, he's insanely good. But to see people like Dark win maybe 40% of the maps against Serral and someone like Maru 10% is quite confusing. Dark isn't better than Maru, but ZvZ is the only match up that doesn't take balance into consideration as both players have the same tools. So I'm thinking that balance might have something to do with Serral's dominance in ZvT.
@@EternityGamesVids Sorry, but Serral uses several infestors, burrowed all over the place to get fungals in, because that is his only chance in late game.
As soon as one gets killed, he makes another.
He borrows lings on a terran natural, to force out a scan.
He uses overlords to spread creep, sometimes even in lategame.
And now compare that to Maru this series:
He refuses to build ravens.
He does not build proper walls to prevent lings from getting in.
He does not use a liberator to shield his mineral lines from a ling runby.
He played creedy without proper scouts several times.
Serral plays on a completely different level than Maru.
Serral uses tons of infestors (that he can NOT have with his army but who needs to be spread out across the map), uses vipers, uses everything Zerg has lategame.
Maru uses ghosts. Even 1 Raven is too much effort for him.
How can you blame anything on balance, when Terrans are too “lazy” to use the tools they have?
How would the games go if Serral wouldn’t build a single infestor, because"too much effort"??
@@wedgeantilles8575 I agree. I find the lack of ravens in most ZvT games baffling... What do terrans have against that unit?
It will save your scans for mules, and you can use it for harasse or anti armor. At least just put it on follow.
When you see how many different spells the top zergs fires off, then why can terran only play with ghosts???
So glad you are back!
thanks, yes i'm back
@michajanicki6860 Good to see you!
with the state of the game I predicted this outcome before starting watching the series. Only in game 2 was there even a glimmer of hope that it would go differently.
Game 2 was like 2, Skynet-level AI/bots facing off against each other with fights happening at different spots on the map at the same time. It's as if Blizzard is showcasing a new, brutal AI for SC2.
@Unknown0YTO, You need to watch real AI with 100k+ APM.
It's like one Serral for each individual unit.
During testing they limited AI APM because it was impossible for humans with two hands and one brain to win.
Can't argue with those fungals. Insane games
I think this closes the debate once and for all about who is the goat of sc2 between these 2. Serral just won his 3rd world title.
Serral has obviously been the goat for many many years now and there is no serious argument for Maru, especially after this destruction of a series
With the OP race tho
@@yannickfrogel3537 only a copium addict would say that. Serral is in a league of its own, and Roaches/Banelings/Infestors all have received significant nerfs in the past couple years, all units he used extensively against Maru in the final. As much as I am a Terran fanboy and a Clem/Byun/Maru/Heromarine stan, there is literally no way to argue against that.
Katowice isn’t the global finals this year. The saudi tournament is
Winning a tournament/series makes you a champion, not the best player. It's merely evidence towards being better. In the absence of superhuman analysis that can get a handle of how "objectively good" the plays are (in the same sort of way we have for Chess), the closest you can get to "who's better" is ratings, and the finals could have been a BO19 and Maru could have won them 10-0 and only about there might ratings give a different verdictl. A single tournament series, even BO7, isn't that much evidence compared to everything else.
And on topic of "the greatest" and if you can question that status, well, you don't even need to be better to be considered the great by some. In Chess where we have "basically objective" rankings for how good the players actually are and a lot of people still swear by e.g. Bobby Fischer even though computers think he's only fourth best in history, some individuals even put up the likes of Lasker or Capablanca or Morphy, even though "objectively" they'd be like #100. Well, here they might concede that they're not objectively so strong, but rather gesture towards talent (whatever that means) or unbroken records (when the playing field was much much worse) or winning some notorious "match of the century", or something. If by "great" you mean something else than "good" then Maru can easily be argued on similar grounds, or NesTea or MVP or Flash/Jaedong, or even someone like FruitDealer.
So good to see SC2 being played. Gawd I wish Blizzard would announce more SC2 updates or SC2 or RTS Warcraft to follow up from 3. Cool to see some of the old names again
It doesn’t need any updates.
Cheers for the upload!
Thanks for the video! Great matches!
Absolute legend
Just wow, the level of controll and strategic moves are just brilliant !
Maru could have won that game 2 but Serral outsmarted him by letting all minerals get close to mined out before transitioning to broods/corruptors
Serral U R THE SWARMS ❤
In other sports I mostly find myself rooting for a niche team or underdog - but I just can't get enough of seeing serral win, year after year.
Another victory back to back
Those insane hero infesters on game 2!
great 2nd game, epic. Serral GOAT for sure..
15:00 Finally Serral makes Corruptors along Ultralisk and others units 16:09 juicy fungel) 20:33 another one
Game 2!
Really did not expect that outcome. Wow...
Amazing Level by Serral Congrats !
In a best of 7, are the players allowed a break at all? Just wondering if anyone knows?
Yes. By player's request. Pooping is allowed too.
One map loss in the whole tournament. How sick is that!? Pretty sure that never happened in such big tournament.
As a Maru's fan, I want to shout "Zerg is OP" at the top of my lung, but hat off to Serral in these games. His performance was exceptional, he used all the tools available of the race to their best potential and just like that, mowed down my favorite Terrain boi. It's frustrated for us but, solid wins for Serral, congrats.
Zerg is literally op and the map pool is z favored . There I said the truth unlike you
zerg is op, serral just use op race to win. give maru hellbat rollbacks and raven rollbacks and ghost rollbacks, he will crush this washed up race-abuser called serral.
salty boy over here@@einerheit5871
Just goes to show you how much blizzard hates protoss.
@@einerheit5871 Terran spell caster keep getting nerfed, like in this patch they buffed cyclones to compensate for the ghost nerf. And then they nerfed cyclone to the ground..
38:55 That's a lot of tanky lasses. LOL
Serral is so insanely skilled, what the hell
Did a Toss at least make it to Ro8?
toss suck rn
Has blizzard ever liked protoss?
Blizzar likes protos its just that it become obnoxious @@dotarian6754
how to buff toss so they stop dominating ladder, but sucking at top level play.
@@andrewduan5123by nerfing cheeses and terrans. Nerfing serral & reynor & solar & Dark(not sure he throws enough games) is also required
Are these even tournaments anymore?
Another tournament, another prove that toss needs to be fixed on pro level 😐
If maru or serral played toss, they wouldn't be the best players in the world
@@dotarian6754 For winning tournament, choosing toss seems a bad decision.
hero is the only decent pro protoss right now.
@@dotarian6754 serral would destroy any protoss bro, especially hero (who is my fav player). Same story with Maru-Hero. 8 protosses in top 24. 0 in quarterfinals. It speaks for itself 🥲
Sorry, but the main problem for Toss is NOT balance but the skill of the players.
Just look at the last series Hero vs Serral - Serral won 4:1. But game 3 was the biggest throw I have EVER seen in any Starcraft game. (BTW: That WAS a final!)
Hero can play awesome - and then again he plays bad. Bad compared to other top players not like in “he plays like you and me”.
If you are this inconsistent you won’t go far, it’s simple as that.
I agree that the Ghost is a problem in TvP, but in general, the Toss players are just not as good as the Terran and Zerg players.
And it is not only me who is saying this. Harstem e.g. said it too.
After all these years, the community finally agrees that Toss is underpowered af. Enjoyed the game but sad that my race is jank xD
I miss the days when once the Protoss got up the Golden Armada it was game over. You could've taken the entire map but you'll never be able to defeat them in a straight up fight.
Zerg gets minimal nerf while terran and toss are shadow nerfed in the name of balance. How cyclone was buffed to compensate terran ghost nerf and then it got nerfed to the ground is beyond my understanding.
Protoss might be "underpowered" at the 7k mmr pro gamer level. Anything under that, and it's literally the easiest race, then terran being slightly harder to play but overpowered, and zerg is still the most underpowered and most nerfed of all races.
@jebediah4780 zerg is much simpler then Terran, what are you talking about,lmao, oh let me guess, you play zerg
@jebediah4780 I do agree Protoss is the easiest race to play, but that's also what makes them so underpowered at high levels. The reason why pros are the pros is because they make the difficult things look easy to do. Hitting mass snipes on Brood Lords or Ultras? Pretty hard. Burrow moving Infestors into perfect spots and landing fungals? Pretty hard. Blinking Stalkers? Chargelots? Mass Phoenix? Not that hard. Even Recall which is supposed to be the Protoss's spear is absolute trash being limited to a single unit that's literally the biggest and in the most vulnerable situation to be able to use recall. Terran has situational presence, you'll always lose the battle running into siege tanks and Libs. Zerg have swarm, you may defeat this army, but what about that one over there and the next one on the way? All Protoss have is hopefully my army is stronger than yours.
what is the prize for winning this tournament?
Starcraft 2 ftw!
me: clicking on the mini-map
me: wonders why it's not working
I think it would be nice if you could add some blank space in the videos to prevent spoiling the results
I think it would hurt their metrics to have portions of EVERY video that nobody watches. But I do agree with you that knowing there is only 5 mins left of a video in a match that is 3-0 sort of gives away who wins the last game. It's hard to avoid seeing the time bar at the bottom of the screen, no matter how hard I try.
We all know what will happen even if they do the things.
It’s tvz, what have you expected?
This Game is 100x better than the SUPERBOWL
Maru is a machine. Serral is a being that defies classification.
not really, it 's just zerg being OP as usual lol. Most "pro" in SC2 play zerg because of that and most tournament champions are zerg players.
@@TheBikeOnTheMoonwell, if you take out serral, 2/3 of the rest was won by Terran.
There were 6/12 terrans qualified in this tournament and only 4/10 Zerg.
If we look at it purely objectively, when taking out Serral, it would seem Terran has better stats…
Then again, there is Serral.
@@TheBikeOnTheMoon That is statistically wrong. Most well-doing pro players play T at this point (most of them being korean), tournament top10 have by far most T players, even with P almost not showing up at all and GM is like 50%+ T players with the least amount of zerg players.
Zerg is pretty underpowered in ZvT at this point but serral is just two leagues of skill above everyone else. T receiving buffs after buffs is quite a joke considering they got the best overall unit in the game so far (thors) and do not even use their whole arsenal of units properly at the highest levels (ravens + BC).
@@TheBikeOnTheMoonliterally just spewing BS 😂😂😂😂 just say you’re bad at the game and go
@@TheBikeOnTheMoonofc, the old "zerg OP" chestnut. There's a saying "the bad d*ck is bothered even by his own hair". It's a bad translation to English, but I think you get the meaning.
Surprise surprise it's a Terran vs zerg
And another surprise: zerg wins.
@@Vipperland Correction: Serral wins
Honestly you could make every zerg unit cost 5 more minerals and he would still win tournaments, he's easily the best player we've ever had in Starcraft 2, with statistics like Flash in Broodwar
He's a statistical outlier.
Also if you're interested, Terran had 6/12 of the post-groups slots
Zerg had 4
Toss had 2 (Neither made it out of the Ro12)
I'm not talking about Serral, he is almost a god in star craft. In every tournament, the same result tvz or zvz.
@@Vipperland if you take Serral out of the occasion, the results of every premier tournament since Jan 2023 have been.
Code S Team League 2023: Onyside- Maru (majority T team) V liquid-Clem (majority T team) (majority T team winner)
ESL Masters Winter 2023: Clem (T) V Dark (Z) (T winner)
GSL S3 Code S: Solar (Z) V GuMiHo(T) (Z winner)
GSL S2 Code S: Maru (T) V Dark (Z) (T winner)
Gamers8 2023: Reynor (Z) V Cure (T) (Z winner)
Katowice 2023: Oliveira (T) V Maru (T) (T winner)
Team League Summer 2023: Onyside (T team) V Basilisk (Z team) (T winner)
GSL S1 Code S: Maru (T) V Cure (T) (T winner)
@@Vipperland Thb considering the player count in this game, it might be that Protoss players are just not as good as the best T and Z players. As a dev you can't really rely on the performance of 4-5 protoss players to nerf or buff the race. SC2 community complains abt all races anyway.
Serral is GOD
Why do you need to cut the video?
34:45 as a fan on the edge of my seat for an epic game, it was a really big let down to see the GG without one last big fight to close it out.
wow this was very one sided.
Which side? Who won?
Yeah, Serral won 4-0, but games 1 and 2 were incredibly close. Maru only started to make critical mistakes in games 3 and 4.
"if serral wins anyway, no one will notice that protoss is unplayable at the highest level" - blizzard probably
Blizzard had like 2 people maintaining sc2 at most and both got laid off by Microsoft
More like "if serral wins anyway, noone will notice we are putting exactly zero effort into StarCraft 2"
Just have a Raven flying around bro, if you can’t scan every 5 seconds
Yeah honestly, even having just a couple ravens around the map patrolling with his armies, would have saved him from a few of those fungals which cost him him a few small armies.
Almost come back in game 2
Z need nerf map control, i mean, many creep is enough, and ling speed run around the map is also map control as well
Love when pig gives maru advice lol
Indeed, Serral was a king of the beast..!
For years I’ve been saying that serral is the best
34:45 the commentators wrongly commented that Maru could force a draw while Serral had plenty of corruptors and income
they were just trying to keep the suspense going i think. In theory it was technically possible, with perfect pickoffs and a hundred mistakes from serral - but realistically it would never happen.
They just brought up that it was possible and if anyone could pull it off, it was Maru. It's literally their job to analyze the game and explore options.
They probably mean that maru should be able to fight in a way in which he kills all corruptors and enough of serrals army eventually so that serral cannot build a single corruptor, but that most likely would never have happened with the amount of gas serral had and alone his mineral wall at pocket 3rd being enough to build a corruptor.
31:45 "the ghosts do not find any infestors" most sad emphasis of this video
I think terran must to love again some raven to main army added.
20:45 even maru can't believe what is happening
Woooww amazing game
why is zerg alowed to make a nearly all in push and then have 20 more workers than their opponent?
Serral buff, he makes light aggression look like an all-in push.
@@nogghorn7080both those roach rushes were pretty OP though lol. Like he had so many roaches and slings, with a base and drones behind it. I think the 1st roach sling was a fake one and the other was an all in.
ye, why not whine how Mules are OP lol ahahah
and ghosts being the best caster in the game
@@ostankovalex1176 Because Mules are not OP, Terran is the race with the lowest natural economy, they always have less bases and less workers. Also, Zerg economy + creep vision + instant tech switch at the drop of a hat is way way stronger than anything terran has.
@@shadowpriest2574 Even Hartsrem says Terran is overtuned lol :D live with it
and... mules are OP. you can lose 30 workers and compensate it. It's been done hundreds of times lol
Congrats to Serral But I wished Maru to win.
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Another final with Z and T and no protoss surprise surprise
yeah, it is truly a mystery why all 3 races are not in the finals...
Seems like you missed the tournament 2 weeks ago...
Sorry, but the main problem for Toss is NOT balance but the skill of the players.
Just look at the last series Hero vs Serral - Serral won 4:1. But game 3 was the biggest throw I have EVER seen in any Starcraft game. (BTW: That WAS a final!)
Hero can play awesome - and then again he plays bad. Bad compared to other top players not like in “he plays like you and me”.
If you are this inconsistent you won’t go far, it’s simple as that.
I agree that the Ghost is a problem in TvP, but in general, the Toss players are just not as good as the Terran and Zerg players.
And it is not only me who is saying this. Harstem e.g. said it too.
@wedgeantilles8575 keep spamming, doesnt make ur comment factually correct
@@wooiljung Well, facts do speak for themselves. It's not my fault that the facts do not allign with your view of the world. Doesn't matter, you are free to invent alternative facts if you feel better then :)
@wedgeantilles8575 sure, whatever you say man. I hope whatever "alternative" facts i find are not based on a single game, and someone's meaningless opinion on it, even. Have a good say
👏👏👏👏👏👏The Endless Swarm
Serral is Maru’s waterloo.
Insane games, I'm 44 and I love watching it!
Is there a reason why terrans don’t use ravens considering that fungals are pretty much the biggest problem they face going up against Serral?
They are too expensive and instantly gunned down.
that infestor at 28:25 missed the dunk rip
Ffs I actually have widow mine ptsd, whenever the camera suddenly swaps to a widow mine that's about to do huge damage I jump on my chair like it's a screamer.
F*ck those things.
이제는 진짜 세랄이 고트인거 인정할수밖에 없는듯 2012인가 과일장수 우승했을때부터 봤는데
세랄만큼 다채로운 플레이하는 선수는 없었음
십몇년간 한국인 판이었던 스2에 외국인들도 할수있다는 목표의식도 세워줘서 클렘 레이너도 이끌어주고
이제 그 두명도 한국인 플레이어들만큼 잘함
그냥 알파고임 최적의 플레이를 찾아서 이겨버려
GG
Korea too proud to give serral the bonjwa
Serral played on a level that should not be possible for a real human
How is a game balance if he's in the offensive while having more workers and hatchery too lol, first game lol
Perhaps by playing better you can be aggressive and have economic advantage too? Or is it not possible in a balanced game to play better? :O
@@asdfasdf-mn8iu me doubling my bank account by playing better
Rolled and smoked LOL
for the swarm
Let's go! Love watching these games
I think Maru relies on his speed and multi-tasking far too much... You almost can't tell because usually more stuff = more wins even if you get caught off guard. But Serral obviously can match Maru's speed (if not best his speed), and I think Serral has slightly superior strategy and tactics which gives him the edge to shut Maru down so consistently, and why players like Dark (or even DRG) can upset Serral more often. Like, those ling runbys on game 4 were getting painful to watch. Apparently Maru thought so too so he didn't lol.
Serral was unstoppable in this year Katowice
Unstoppable for the past five years -- true dominance
Even before watching I knew how one sided this will be.
engagement
If we watch Maru vs Serral but Maru is playing Zerg and Serral is Playing Terran, you think anyone who's not GM+ would notice? xD
After game 2, Maru really get frustrated, cannot find a good answer for Serral.
It definitely looked like Maru became frustrated. Understandable though, as two intense late games that were very close just barely slip through his fingers. At that point, you have played over an hour straight of your best Starcraft only two be down two games in a Bo7.
@@moneygrab610 yeap, the man got tilted. He was very weak in the last game. And it's not that easy to play a sht ton of games in a row.
in the second game the kommentator sounds almost exactly like lowko's comentary
Serral is literally over-mind
Watching ZvT/ZvP finals is like a 'you rage you lose' contest.
Yeah, maru misplaying so often in these games, getting outplayed left and right and it still got insanely close in game 2 and took all of maru making mistake after mistake in game 4 thanks to the new cyclones being so good. I lost quite often and raged even though serral still took it back with his insane skill. No way any lesser zerg would've won that series, not even close. The T whining getting T to be so overpowered after all these years is saddening.
Not the brightest of the bunch, but that's hardly a surprise
@@offshooter You missing that @ makes it look like you insulted yourself. Well played bud, because that initial comment was pretty dumb to begin with.
yes, I'm sure it must have been confusing for you to understand which of the two people in this convo I was talking to without an @ to guide your way. I'm terribly sorry for not taking your disability into account
@@offshooter Oh no, you still talking to yourself? Are you a boomer unable to properly operate youtube? That's a shame, really, but it also explains your awful take on sc 2 balance. At least you went back on it in your last comment, so kudos to you!
Are those the new NeuroLink implants ?
It's been a decade since Protoss was viable. It's a disgrace that Blizzard and the "balance council" has enabled this terrible situation to last that long.
If it was terrain or zerg, I'd agree. :D
Can't say I miss Protoss that much, not even after this many years of barely having any.
Welp lings & infestors are gonna get nerfs next patch. ffs don't nerf the race, nerf serral!
I bet when one of them retire, the other will miss his last worthy opponent so much 😂😂😂
Larva is the unit that should be nerf the most. It’s spawn time need to increase to 12 seconds
Guess it's time for another zerg buff!
Correct. Just look how close some of these games were despite maru getting outplayed like crazy.
'of course the spellcaster that can win any engagement with one fungal is balanced, why you ask?'
@@dgam4211 As you can clearly see, there is no single fungal that even remotely wins the game. Also, 2 uses of EMP can just as easily win games, and 8 cloaked ghosts with 16 snipes can by far more reliably win games if zerg ever does not pay attention.
So i guess you're saying snipe and EMP are both unbalanced?
photon cannon lets go for auir
Why the terrans players don't use the sensor tower? It's banned in pro matches?
Those rocket can detect and reveal burrow/stealth unit sensor can only detect
They do.
Banelings.
Terrano bom é terrano mort() ...
Bom jogo Serral
I don't understand why they can't produce a raven the Terrans.
Zerg está con um buff absurdo, sem chance pros outros competidores
É o jogador não a raça
i wonder if a single raven will become meta at some point given how proven effectiv these infestors have been
Watchers have been screaming it at the top of our lungs for the past 3-4 years and yet it just is not picked up by pros. I think it's specifically that Ravens cost too much to be thrown around like Zerg Overseers and therefore you don't catch Infestors till too late anyway because the raven detection isn't enough to cover a fungle from downtown.
TLDR: Ravens need to be cheaper or expect this to continue because Terrans can't just infinitely scan the map (not that they should be able to).
I never understood why it wasn’t - at least in the late stages of the game. Having detection that moves with the army clears Creep easily and prevents those Infestor and Baneling ambushes. I don’t play Terran though, so maybe there is a good reason.
@@moneygrab610 yeah infestors and banelings so OP at all imagine the infestors crawling in the grounds and can't see and then automatically can pop up and borrowed as fast
@@MultiVerse_12 lol? Mines, ghosts? Ghosts are the strongest casters in the game lol countering all late tech. And the only counter is a good fungal and a timing attack which is hard AF
@@ostankovalex1176it's not, and it's not harder than actually using the ghosts. It's two clicks.
Maru should have gotten ravens way earlier, one raven would have denied serral's fungals