2024 Lotus Emira 2-Month Ownership Update
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- I've had the 2024 Lotus Emira First Edition 2.0 for a couple of months now and it’s both better and worse than I was expecting. Here are the highs and lows I've discovered so far since I bought my dream car. Are you surprised by any of it? Let me know with a comment below!
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Highs and Lows
06:29 Driving Experience
07:56 Emira Comparison
08:39 Why It’s Both Better and Worse Than Expected?
10:47 Next Steps - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Hello, fellow Emira owner here. I was just reading the manual and found out that the front usb is charge only. If you want charge and data, say for carplay or android auto, you need to use any of the two usb ports in the armest storage area.
Agree with the steering wheel quirkiness. If you've had muscle memory doing a 3 point turn with a circle steering wheel, there are moments where your hand would go a certain place expecting a steering wheel there but it's not. So I've had to reprogram my brain to drive it like I'm at the track, hands at 9 and 3 position and full 180 degree turns before letting go of the wheel.
Slow speed driving is definitely pretty enjoyable with this car, especially having power like this with naturally aspirated engine-like responsiveness. Since I'm also still in my break in period, I've had to slow down and speed up when driving on the highway to vary my RPM's and I'm pretty much doing pulls from 65-80 all the time.
I hate that there's incredibly limited aftermarket for stuff like floor mats or wheels. Tried contacting tuxmat and they basically said no.
I was also at an even earlier with Greg from Greg's auto parts, one of the few places that do stock emira parts. He had a 3rd cat delete, valve controller, titanium exhaust and eventuri intake and it made for a completely different sound. Stock sounds great, but his setup was a different kind of great.
The small details are exactly what we need! People might just care about the driving if they lease one for a few months, but a different story if you decide to keep a car for years. People needed to decide if they can accept the small minor detail issues, otherwise, the ownership experience will be ruined. Very helpful video. It’s not a Porsche, it’s something special, but also a lot more to consider
Nice review. Love a car that engages you at any speed. A true driver's car.
Good video. I've had my Emira 3 months and here are the things I found that are minor annoyances/issues. Overall though, really like the car and it gets tons of attention.
1) Carplay only automatically connects half the time for me. Sometimes it does, others it doesn't.
2) No Satellite radio. Definitely should have that in a $100k car.
3) Had to get the HVAC fan resistor replaced
4) Got a check engine on the EVAP canister and replacement parts will take a couple months. Does not affect driving though
5) Floor mats are not good. They should extend further as you mention. They catch my clutch heel on some shoes I wear, so I trimmed the mat
6) I think the exhaust is pretty decent, won't change it
7) KEF audio is undersized and disappointing.
8) Wish it would stay in the driving mode I want when you start back up again.
Good points you raise!
do you think its better than a cayman gts 4.0 or a base 911 carrera ?
At 7:39, C’mon say “Quirks and Features!” - Doug hasn’t trademarked that (yet) lol! Love that color Blue on your Emira! Always enjoy your thoughts and channel!
It's EPIC in that color.
I just bought this car, same color, same interior. I think the Emira is less cluttered than the Porsche. My biggest problem is the uselessness of the cup holders. You really can't shift at all with a drink in the forward-most cup holder. But I love the driving experience, the look, the sound is decent and the pedal placement really works for me.
I really liked how you broke this video down. I’m a driver like you; I want to be able to push a vehicle hard around town and have a bit of rawness to my car. This is why I chose a miata ND over a cayman s.
Same here. Had about $100,000 budget for my next sports car, and my co-workers cannot understand why I chose an ND2 in 2020. I’ve put about $10,000 worth of performance modifications, and I think I appreciate the car more every time I drive it. Most addictive car I’ve ever owned. And I cross shopped a Boxster and Cayman.
A friend joked that I was trying to modify it into being a Porsche, and I had to explain that I could buy a Porsche; I was trying to modify it into being a Lotus.
I’ll be getting an Emira very soon, but I will be keeping the ND2 for my daily.
Well said. Until you get to the higher trims (GTS 4.0 and GT4 and GT4RS), the Cayman just isn't that fun for driving enthusiasts IMO.
@@kgm5330 very cool! Would you mind sharing what performance mods you’ve done. Did you do it yourself or pay a mechanic? How’s the reliability been?
@@jubbalandcars its the lack of 6cyl, the the regular Caymans and boxsters are still amazing cars, and tons of fun but don't have the soul or passion the 6cyl cars have. My FE1 Emira came in, but due to shady dealers, I never took delivery, and have my BGTS 4.0 arriving in a few months.
@@Weaselbuck In no particular order:
1) Exchanged the OEM shock tower brace for the Mazdaspeed brace. I did this in prep to have adjustable coil overs. The OEMs are not open at the top. This turned out to be unnecessary since I chose against coil overs.
2) Goodwin Racing’s coil and bump stop set up for the GT RF street /track configuration. This is a great set up for both street and amateur racing or timed trials. I didn’t want anything too tightly sprung for street use. A pavement irregularity at an apex can be very unpleasant. The double wishbones are great for the street, but pure track springs can ruin the magic.
My experience with Miata’s and coil overs has been that it takes a lot of trial and error to get the set up right, and you can easily make the car worse.
3). Dampers: Swapped ORM Bilstein B6s for B8s. Helpful, but in retrospect probably not essential.
3) Goodwin Racing front and rear sway bars. These are great. Fit MUCH better than the weird OEM sway bars. Probably most important switch. Rear is easy do it yourself. Front is for professionals and more expensive than the equipment, but worth it. Goodwin has it all figured out for you.
4). Garage line spacers. 15 mm front, 20 mm rear. Don’t mess this up or you’ll damage your front liners.
5). Aggressive street alignment. I think I went with Flying Miatas specs, but they were very similar to GER’s
6) Bridgestone and Continentals have been equally good.
That’s pretty much it. The forums, GWR and Flying Miata have done all the hard work. Go with something the pros have worked out. This is my 4th Miata, and it’s easy to screw them up trying to make them better.
380,000+ miles on 4 Miatas, 150,000+ on an NA1 and NC2 each. Mostly routine maintenance, no major breakdowns or expenses on any of them. I replaced tops and ignition wires at 150,000 on the NC2.
Have 30,000 on ND2, street/track and daily. No repairs, seems to run better every time I drive it. Wife likes the changes on ride comfort except the cat back replacement with GWR’s Super Q pipe and muffler. The sound is MUCH MUCH better than stock, but it is louder. Wife’s getting used to it.
NCs sound better stock than NDs IMO.
You conviced me, i have a base cayman I love but one day maybe this car if reliable used could be mine
Really appreciate the owner details beyond what you’d hear in a basic review.
I’m really curious to see how the car responds when really pushed especially at the track. Will the brakes hold up? How will the transmission respond to hurried shifts? Can it handle a 20 minute session or will it overheat and need mods? And how does all that compare with the Cayman GTS.
Thanks in advance! Appreciate your work!
Biggest thing I've found out, is it DOES NOT like the 1-2 high rpm shift. all the other gears have been fine for me. Haven't tracked it though.
I get the same phantom left front parking alerts on my first edition as well.
I also have full PPF so maybe that has something to do with it?
Loving mine as well.
LIVING WITH THE EMIRA CONTENT!
Thanks for the video! I've been looking at this car to get as a weekend/track car. Is there a cars and coffee meet you go to? I've gone to the one by Eastern in henderson. I'd love to check it out if you take it or more people do since I've never seen it on the road
Occasionally to gears and grinds or espresso and exotics but not frequently
This was really helpful. I never knew why the dash data would randomly change until you said the steering wheel controls had swipe functionality. And 100% agree with the climate control. About 5-6 degrees off. Thought it was just me. Overall, though, once you're driving, it's a revelation.
Great update. I think both layman and car enthusiasts would agree that the Emira is far better looking and special than the Cayman, but the Cayman is (looks-aside) objectively the better car.
As a vehicle yes, as a sports car, not quite
Beautiful car. I suspect the coating application may have damaged the left front parking sensor.
Thanks for your video. I want to buy this car because it’s so beautiful. How is the low end torque in driving around town? I’m coming from a Camaro SS 1le.
It is not the same both are good but 1 cost twice the price.
The fact that this car is enjoyable at low speed, why you think is the case? Is a reason of chassis or steering communication? Higher perceived speeds? The ability to relax and enjoying the inputs or something else?
You described very well the reason why this car is not that more enjoyable at higher speed having a chassis that is not that playful especially regarding rotation, but I think is worth getting deeper in the aspect of fun at slow speed, is a thing and is almost never talked about. I personally dig this characteristic that add a lot to the driving experience. At the end of the day there aren’t transponders at every lights😅 (town driving)
You mentioned that it wasn’t very fun to drive GR86 on congested roads. Is it the case with Miata as well? How engaging and fun is it on mildly congested roads? From the internet I have got the input that Miata is more fun than GR86, even if it’s only a tad bit more.
try tux mats and diamond mats. They've been the best options for my panamera and EV6 GT
I heard Throttle house compalin in the Alfa QV the carplay is trash nd it messes up with the wireless charging
Thank God the reason you’re enjoying it less has nothing to do with the car itself, but the roads around Vegas.
When you get it run in properly, see if you can get your hands on a GTS and take them both on a track for some lap comparisons. You’ll get a lot of views with that.
Def need to compare to GTS 4.0 both on and off track
I have the same sensor issue, I let Lotus know about it, hopefully it's a software issue and will be resolved with it.
Do you have PPF as well?
@@jubbalandcars No PPF yet, but the fact that you and another commenter is having the same issue, gives me hope that this is a software thing and not a "change out the whole sensor" issue.
Based on your criteria you bought the right car over the Cayman GTS 4.0. I, likewise, bought the right car when I got my Boxster GTS 4.0. For me the convertible adds the "drama" and "sense of occasion" that the Cayman gives up to the Lotus. We both have one of the best sports cars ever produced.
Some of the issues you are having, and I have been reading in these comments seem to be Volvo issues. Volvo is the parts supplier for Lotus and my S60 has the parking sensor ghosting and no oil temp display issues - as well as the passenger seat sensor sensitivity issues.
Why does the gearbox make weird sounds ?
Great update! I take delivery of mine in a couple weeks and I'm super excited. Videos like yours really add to the anticipation.
Question, around the 6:40 mark, in the rear view mirror, it looks like a cable is hanging down from the headliner. Is this a cable for a rear mounted cam? If so, was it difficult to run the cabling?
Yes installed a rear dashcam but need to get tint redone there so haven’t installed. I hired a pro to do the wiring
The steering wheel controls annoy me. I wish it was better configured. Audio controls should have been on the left side by itself vs cruise control. I don’t like having to scroll the middle screen to audio and then it switching to other option by accident because my finger slides over the controls by accident.
Does this car feel anything similar to the GR86? That's an awesome car for a driving enthusiast!
Not really. But some of the ethos is similar. I did a video comparing the two in that way
If you are looking for a better steering wheel I have a short that has my new carbon fiber steering wheel which we took an oem steering wheel and rewrapped it. We're just about to put it on my car
Would love to see a comparison with a manual 992.1 Carrera T
Plenty of comparisons coming!
I just moved to Vegas recently, what are the driving road options? I haven't checked any out yet
Not great options
@@jubbalandcarsWhen you're in a state that is practically as flat as a pool table and all the roads are perfect grida, I think you're better off getting a "boulevard car." There's just no place to exploit the abilities of the car you bought it for.
@@jubbalandcars I know this pain. Have a 911 in Wisconsin and I'm finding myself not going out much because the roads are bad.
Hows that front end. I found it light and skipping over bumps. Theres a video circulating in China of people losing control on straight wet roads!
haven't pushed it hard enough, but i know the tester that i drove a back in dec 22 had a front end that got light quite easily on throttle mid corner
Yeah Las Vegas roads and Cup 2 tires sound like a frustratingly poor combination; but you did it to yourself.
RS3 has my favorite cell phone holder and wireless charger, simple and works every time. Emira is beautiful but kind of slow and probably $30k overpriced (assuming $100k retail). I'd have a hard time picking it over the Z06 but yes it looks better. Have you driven the Evora GT?
Yes have driven Evora GT. Comparison coming in the future
havent seen a single z06 under 130k. or do you mean c7 z06?
@ISLAMICSTORIES13 base is closer to 115k. People are paying 120k for Emiras and it's a 70k parts bin car
@@fzr1000981 I agree it should be cheaper. even at msrp of 100k the c8 stingray is much faster and cheaper. Cayman GTS 4.0 is the same 100k msrp and also much better. I think if it was like 85k it would be fine. people paying 120k markup are very insane. thats a 911 carrera T or like you said pretty close to a z06
@@ISLAMICSTORIES13 M2 is a bargain, almost 500 hp on a dyno (2025) for 68k
Jubbal, you are in the wrong city to be driving an Emira. You need to head to Angeles Crest or Cali to appreciate what the Emira can do on the bends. I live in Canada and the back country roads are amazing for my Emira. All twisty and scenic in Ontario, Canada
yup
How much over MSRP did you pay?
$0 as I do for all my cars
Honestly Emira is wasted in Vegas. i am in the Bay Area and just got back from Socal and a 1200 mile road trip and my Emira was spectacular. Sad that your roads are straight. Even valley of fire looks boring tbh. Hoping you get the Emira back to CA!
There are 3 roads the car enthusiasts like. I only like 2 of them. None of them come close to what CA has to offer
irrelevant to the majority of people, but I am curious what the road noise level difference is between the emira and even your Mazda on that stretch of terrible road; I could barely hear you talking as the car was shaking heavily.
For me, there's almost no road noise. It's not Luxury level quiet, but it's pretty good.
Road noise can be quite bad on poor pavement. Worse than my GR86 - close to my old FR-S
@@jubbalandcars Gen 1 twins could get pretty loud - whatever that stretch of highway up towards Thill always gives my ears a run for their money haha.
Did you finnace or pay cash ?
Financed
Are you still interested in the wireless charging tray? Check your forum’s PMs
thanks for reminder, checking shortly
@@jubbalandcars awesome, I’ve been holding one aside for ya!
Funny, you don't seem to suffer from my biggest (super minor) quibble with mine. If I put ANYTHING on the passenger seat, it triggers the seat belt sensor and starts dinging at me with a red seat warning in the cluster. And when I say anything, even an iPhone cable resting on the seat can trigger it. I see a water bottle in your passenger seat. Must be nice!
😂 wow either im lucky or you’re unlucky
I think it is a characteristic of modern cars. My 2017 Toyota 86 is the same way. It will set off the warning even with a very light piece of mail lol. If I move the item to the front or back of the seat, I can usually avoid the alert though. They must put a super sensitive sensor right in the middle of the cushion.
This happens to mine. My phone is enough to set it off.
Mine as well
Not sure I’d ever consider this given that it doesn’t incorporate a bespoke engine.
Wait for the AMG I4.....lighter, better handling, higher redline, and it's confirmed that US cars are getting 400hp and updated Dct calibration.
No oil temp is kind of tough
its like they sold the car without driving it
wtf its like they didnt drive it before selling lol
I like the knittu gritty if I want this car I want to know car play is fudged the usb has .9 amps for carplay data etc
I’m in the uk have several Loti. Got the V6 Auto tour spec after a long wait. I was one of the very first to order one when the car name was announced (no images). Had it 12 months and it’s awesome. You will wet you knickers when you can actually rev its tits off 😂. Enjoy
I almost never drive mine in tour. Closes valves to exhaust too much.
only when i'm trying to act like a civilized chap
If this car was 70-80k still... It would be the clear winner... at a 100k... It's better to get a 20-30k car and tune it I think...
In this market I think 100k is a fair price for the vehicle
@@jubbalandcars For the looks alone... I reserved it day one... But compared to a cayman turbo 2.0 with a tune... I think that's WAY better value for money. Now emotionally... I understand as I own a 2gr MR2... I love it.
Diamond floor mats
Get a cayman so you have to drive really fast to be exciting and get looked down at by the 911 owners at the C&Cs.
OR
Get an Emira, love it at all speeds and everyone will admire it at the C&C. badge delete it an no one will know you spent under $250k on that car.
The choice is clear IMO.
The most relevant point you made was that the cayman is boring driven slow. Even in the canyons it’s too clinical for me. Only fun on track.
I had a 2011 Lotus Elise R, 2014 Evora NA, 2017 Evora 400 and 2021 Evora GT...I was going to get the Emira until I drove it. It is not worth it when coming from lighter and more powerful Lotus cars. So, I got me a Huracan RWD
Could go down in history as one of the most beautiful cars ever made, Lotus really outdid themselves.
Tuxmat for your problem?
Tuxmat doesn’t make mats for any Lotus currently
@@jubbalandcars ah bummer!
Forgot to mention: would be interested in the touring vs sport comparison video for the emira.
I must be the only one who doesnt like this car. The outside looks pretty and thats it. This car feels dated in every other aspect. The V6 tone is numbed down, the specs are "slow". At least if you go for a Lotus go for the raw deal and get an Exige. Now thats a thrill. ps: i owned a Lotus Elise, and probably that car was all the fun i needed. Go kart feel all the way -.- My next car will probably be a boxster, just a comfy highway cruiser 😎
Whats your thoughts on the gr86?
@@shakethedrummer2351 Actually i bought a mazda Mx5 ND3. I have looked at a GR86 but didnt like the in-car engine sound and the engine is maybe less reliable? Handling and practicallity are big plusses. Still went for an Mx5 because of the higher fun factor in weekends. Well i almost drive it every day and my daily driver is collecting dust 😂
@@Scifo321does Miata handle a lot worse than GR86 or is it negligible?
Pretty sure all of these annoying things that you complain about would drive me completely nuts over time and it would be one more love-hate lotus ownership experience 🙃
Also, move to Utah
Have tuxmats make you some floor mats
I suppose we’ll see!
You mentioned that it wasn’t very fun to drive GR86 on congested roads. Is it the case with Miata as well? How engaging and fun is it on mildly congested roads? From the internet I have got the input that Miata is more fun than GR86, even if it’s only a tad bit more.