Yeah, but what else is he supposed to do? The guy never had an honest conversation with anyone for over a century and lived in a grand depressing illusion. Since he's screwed anyway, why not just answer the questions and get yourself one final ego boost by mentioning how great of a scientist you... were. By the way, I don't think he's going to stay there for too long afterwards. He already knew that his life in the simulation is meaningless, so he'll probably unalive himself sometime after, now that he doesn't even have the human toys to play with as the years go by.
Well said, Stealfos...😒 Being a fully grown-up (now that *I'm now being a 26 years-old man, a biologically adult* on this year) man 🧔🏻 makes you realized on *how pretty DARK the lore behind the Tranquility Lane could be* in 2008' "Fallout 3 ☢" game really is...😦💀
Same. I played this in my late 20s now that I've fully grown up (adult only on paper) since then I realize how dark the lore of tranquility lane holy crap.
@@balsalmalberto8086 Im 27 and i have been playing this game since i was 13. It’s interesting how you interpret some aspects of a game’s story different the older you get. Every 3 or 4 years when i replay a trillogy you pick up messages your otherwise wouldn’t.
I truly hope that in-canon he experiences the magnitude of eternity, forever stuck in an empty simulation, with what little remnants of his sanity trickling away as the centuries turn into millennia alone without any stimulation, tearing his psyche and sense of self into countless screaming blips of sensation in an otherwise empty void. He was an inhuman bastard, subjecting innocent people to torture and horror for 200 years with every intent to continue beyond forever because it AMUSED him. So the failsafe ending is truly a fitting punishment, now he gets to endure the thing he was most terrified of, boredom, for all eternity, and his poor victims are finally released from their eternal torture to the peace of oblivion.
If you think about it, they had to have been in those pods for as long as the Vault was operational. So I wouldn't put it past Braun to have them on life support just to extend their suffering.
you're not really just virtually killing them. They feel pain, experience grief and loss and fear. So you are just enabling that torture by entertaining this psycho.
This way they are actually dead, which is what they should be after 200 years anyway. There's no way they could live outside. I've just watched the evil route and I get the distinction that they'll be brought back to suffer because the failsafe wasn't active.
If I had to say what the worst part of this otherwise great game is, it would be this mission: if you're going for the bad karma route, the stuff you have to do is hard to watch; if you're going for the good karma route, figuring out the code is so close to impossible guesswork that it feels like an afterthought. As much as I love this game, this mission is the one part I don't look forward to when replaying it.
In my playthrough I did maybe 1-2 of the things Betty asked before I met Dithers who tipped me about the failsafe system. It's maybe a few minutes of work to figure out the correct order for the terminal to appear
The code isn't guesswork though. Betty whistles the correct tune constantly if you stand near her and the marimba(?) in the background music also plays the correct tune at times
You dont even need to memorize the whistling or the background music, once you are in the abandoned house you can you activate the objects until you guess the right sequence. If you hear a wrong *beep* sound then you just start again until you figure it out.
@@JoshLStuff Yeah, but that's only helpful to people who know music theory, and I don't think there was a very sizable overlap between people who know music theory and people playing Fallout 3, especially not in 2008 when the game first came out. If, like me, can't tell what a note is by a "little girl's" whistling, then you have to figure out the code through cheap trial and error, and who wants to do that? Not to mention, I don't know how Bethesda expected anyone would guess that "Betty's" whistling was the clue they needed to look for.
First time i finished this and i got this way...i heard that the objects were making different notes so i tried and it worked....yet to try the other ending
Can anyone clear something for me. I recently reached this part and did the failsafe route. Did the people in the simulation died permanently or did they escaped eventually?
They died. Braun requested the 'Chinese Invasion' program so after turning off the failsafe everyone in the simulation would die, both their avatars and real life bodies, including himself. But he realized that the Vault Tec and military secondary failsafes would prevent his own death, so he'll be alone and without control of the simulation. Once you activate the program, everyone dies in the simulation and in their pods, you can check their terminals when you leave the simulation, they will not have any vital signs. This info is in the wiki if you want more information.
They were all, including Braun, on life support. Killing them via the failsafe, then not resetting the simulation, left them dead. Basically, Tranquility Lane will last forever, with only Braun active.
In the terminal record, it says anyone thats killed in the simulation will actually die in real life as well. So yes there were no survivors except for you and dad. The other people in the simulation were literally over 200 years old at this point and would likely die if not instantly if there was any safe way to shut the simulation down. That's the dark experiment of vault 112
A little late for a response, but leaving them alive or doing what Braun says, just lead to them being eternally tormented them the same way. Using the failsafe end his suffering by let them die in the real world and left braun to rot in his simulation.
@@cyrra8865 exactly,i did it without any tutorial. you just pay attention to the "beep" it does when you click a wrong thing...But I spent several minutes lol
I still say, that Fallout Universe is a simulator itself. It wouldnt be hard to do and lore even suggests it is possible. If someone went under in the late 40's or early 50's it would explain why everything was stuck in that period's lifestyle. It would also explain why transistor's werent supposed to exist, yet there are items in game that would require one.
I mean it is a glorified 50’s retro future even before the bombs fell they were well into the future im sure transistors would be invented just not as early as in our timeline also factor in the advancement of technology came from the 1947 Roswell crash In theory the governments of the fallout universe im sure had their own Roswell incident in their own timeline with the lore of the mothership zeta dlc content im sure there were many crashes even before the great war which this 1959’s glorified future could be possible with all the futuristic elements
Eh I just theorise that aliens brainwashed most people to stay in that mindset to lead them to triggering a fallout. Once Human civilisation was for the most part destroyed, it make it easier for the aliens ti invade thr earth.
Theories like that suck. It's already a videogame, theorizing it's a simulation is just forgetting that and then wondering why it doesn't mesh perfectly with reality.
If I had to guess, it would have to have something to do with the background music, though I don't know, I'm doing my first playthrough of fallout 3 and the setup I have doesn't have sound
It’s been well over a decade since I played as a kid, but I remember you have to talk to the townsfolk to gather what little info you can. Then at some point after snooping around, you come across this device that makes sounds in different pitches. They all sound just like the song the main scientist guy whistles. Once you get the song right, a computer appears and you can activate the failsafe. Then all these Chinese guys come and start gunning everyone down killing them. But since the failsafe has been activated, that means that once they die, they die for real because their consciousness is no longer connected to it, and thus, cannot be revived and memory wiped like how the guy has been doing.
05:26 - 05:37 "Betty" 👧🏼: " *Do you REALIZED on what you've DONE* ...😠💢?! 'Cause *you've triggered the Failsafe! Ruined. Everything* ...! The *subjects will dies* 💀⚰️ and *then, I'll be stuck in this place* here 😩😫! *ALOOONE* ...😭😭😭! *You've had ruined everything! EVERYTHIIING* ...😡🔥!!"
Braun was eventually going to get bored... hence his over joy of two new playmates.. The failsafe was like eventual suicide code as explained in his notes.
stupid fo3 logic. You’re evil if you kill the test subjects yourself but if you let the red army do it you gain good karma. If you liked this, you must really loved the garbage ending this game had lmfao
It’s because if you do what “Betty” says, you kill them and they can just be revived in the simulation and tortured for all eternity. But if the chinese army does it, the vault dwellers will permanently die and you’ll end their suffering.
@@ReuploadArchivist it makes sense if you played the game and listened, what hes saying is if you kill the vault dwellers they wont actually die they'll have there consciousness fully ported over to the machine and whatever body they did have would be dead so they would be forever trapped even if they found a way out, you condemn them to a worse fate then death
Its not wrong to activate the failsafe. Its a morally good thing to do as you are allowing those people to finally rest from that Hellhole@@ReuploadArchivist
Hard disagree. I'm not the biggest fan of Fallout 3, but Tranquility Lane was a great concept and very well excecuted. If you didn't know about the failsafe you are forced to do evil acts just to rescue James, who then scolds you because by then your karma is probably shot. OR activate the failsafe and then the residents get killed a bit more mercifully. Up there for best modern-era Fallout moments for me, and again I don't really care much for Fallout 3!
"YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND TRAPPED ME IN AN EMPTY HELL OF NOTHINGNESS now allow me to calmly answer all of your questions honestly."
Bethesda writing
LMFAO!
Yeah, but what else is he supposed to do? The guy never had an honest conversation with anyone for over a century and lived in a grand depressing illusion. Since he's screwed anyway, why not just answer the questions and get yourself one final ego boost by mentioning how great of a scientist you... were.
By the way, I don't think he's going to stay there for too long afterwards. He already knew that his life in the simulation is meaningless, so he'll probably unalive himself sometime after, now that he doesn't even have the human toys to play with as the years go by.
@@albenoit4378 Same thing happens in NV
@@ollie4022 you are correct. But it's not a Bethesda fallout game, so people don't nitpick it that hard.
Bieng fully grown up i realise how dark the lore behind this part is.
Well said, Stealfos...😒
Being a fully grown-up (now that *I'm now being a 26 years-old man, a biologically adult* on this year) man 🧔🏻 makes you realized on *how pretty DARK the lore behind the Tranquility Lane could be* in 2008' "Fallout 3 ☢" game really is...😦💀
Tf 😭
Same. I played this in my late 20s now that I've fully grown up (adult only on paper) since then I realize how dark the lore of tranquility lane holy crap.
@@balsalmalberto8086 Im 27 and i have been playing this game since i was 13. It’s interesting how you interpret some aspects of a game’s story different the older you get. Every 3 or 4 years when i replay a trillogy you pick up messages your otherwise wouldn’t.
@@rahadianaryo5979is this an ai generated comment? 😂
I truly hope that in-canon he experiences the magnitude of eternity, forever stuck in an empty simulation, with what little remnants of his sanity trickling away as the centuries turn into millennia alone without any stimulation, tearing his psyche and sense of self into countless screaming blips of sensation in an otherwise empty void. He was an inhuman bastard, subjecting innocent people to torture and horror for 200 years with every intent to continue beyond forever because it AMUSED him. So the failsafe ending is truly a fitting punishment, now he gets to endure the thing he was most terrified of, boredom, for all eternity, and his poor victims are finally released from their eternal torture to the peace of oblivion.
eventually the vault would cave in and the simulation would be ended though
ok 💀💀💀💀
The subjects shouldn't have died though, they should've been allowed to live in the real world.
"For all eternity" 🤣🤣I'm pretty sure sooner or later people would enter the vault and free him.
@@hwolfe2035 and then probably bash him with a spike bat several seconds later
Has a eerie classic cartoon vibe to it but at least when I get to this point I know what to do to get good karma
Virtually committing mass murder: Evil karma.
ACTUALLY committing mass murder: Good karma.
That's... ironic.
I mean one is for sick entertainment and one is to end the misery of the other people
If you think about it, they had to have been in those pods for as long as the Vault was operational. So I wouldn't put it past Braun to have them on life support just to extend their suffering.
you're not really just virtually killing them. They feel pain, experience grief and loss and fear. So you are just enabling that torture by entertaining this psycho.
This way they are actually dead, which is what they should be after 200 years anyway. There's no way they could live outside.
I've just watched the evil route and I get the distinction that they'll be brought back to suffer because the failsafe wasn't active.
@@reese1719 This is the canon result. Braun's files are all about it.
Dr. Braun's calm lines sound a bit odd given you've just destroyed his life's work. Maybe they should have changed them a bit to reflect that.
Didn't expect you would trigger a failsafe early.
@@shinigamiphantom1391
Yeah, Shinigami Phantom-1391 💀👻
*What happened if you been triggering-up a failsafe earlier* like THAT?
FO3 was great for its time.
He's still great.
Well, at least you didn't kill everyone in that simulation in his way. Losing karma just for one answer wasn't going to be worth it.
I'm gonna be honest, I've been running around for half an hour not knowing what to do
Same. I don't even remember having so much dialog options with Betty...
@@jarlfenrir
Yeah, Jarl Fenrir...😐😑
It's been a year, did you figure it out? Or still need help? Lol
If I had to say what the worst part of this otherwise great game is, it would be this mission: if you're going for the bad karma route, the stuff you have to do is hard to watch; if you're going for the good karma route, figuring out the code is so close to impossible guesswork that it feels like an afterthought. As much as I love this game, this mission is the one part I don't look forward to when replaying it.
In my playthrough I did maybe 1-2 of the things Betty asked before I met Dithers who tipped me about the failsafe system. It's maybe a few minutes of work to figure out the correct order for the terminal to appear
The code isn't guesswork though. Betty whistles the correct tune constantly if you stand near her and the marimba(?) in the background music also plays the correct tune at times
You dont even need to memorize the whistling or the background music, once you are in the abandoned house you can you activate the objects until you guess the right sequence. If you hear a wrong *beep* sound then you just start again until you figure it out.
@@MrDeyvid34 Yeah, but who on the dev team though anyone wanted to solve a puzzle through cheap trial-and-error?
@@JoshLStuff Yeah, but that's only helpful to people who know music theory, and I don't think there was a very sizable overlap between people who know music theory and people playing Fallout 3, especially not in 2008 when the game first came out. If, like me, can't tell what a note is by a "little girl's" whistling, then you have to figure out the code through cheap trial and error, and who wants to do that? Not to mention, I don't know how Bethesda expected anyone would guess that "Betty's" whistling was the clue they needed to look for.
When I was a kid took me 4 weeks to finish this 😮😂
Facts 😂
Same with me lol. 😂
Oxhorns done a really good vid on this, all I remember was I lost Charon for bloody ages after I got back out again :)
Yo yo Cream Egg Boi!
Bloody ghoul havin' a wonder without ya! Haha!
You'll have to send me the video, I'd like to watch it. XxX
This was effed up
That's why Chinese Invasion simulation was the only way to go about it.
First time i finished this and i got this way...i heard that the objects were making different notes so i tried and it worked....yet to try the other ending
"¿You choosed the form of a little girl?" 🤨
Can anyone clear something for me.
I recently reached this part and did the failsafe route.
Did the people in the simulation died permanently or did they escaped eventually?
They died. Braun requested the 'Chinese Invasion' program so after turning off the failsafe everyone in the simulation would die, both their avatars and real life bodies, including himself. But he realized that the Vault Tec and military secondary failsafes would prevent his own death, so he'll be alone and without control of the simulation.
Once you activate the program, everyone dies in the simulation and in their pods, you can check their terminals when you leave the simulation, they will not have any vital signs.
This info is in the wiki if you want more information.
Well they are 200 years old. The simulation was their only chance at "life"
They were all, including Braun, on life support. Killing them via the failsafe, then not resetting the simulation, left them dead. Basically, Tranquility Lane will last forever, with only Braun active.
In the terminal record, it says anyone thats killed in the simulation will actually die in real life as well. So yes there were no survivors except for you and dad. The other people in the simulation were literally over 200 years old at this point and would likely die if not instantly if there was any safe way to shut the simulation down. That's the dark experiment of vault 112
They have been released. They are all dead barring you, James, and Braun.
25 mph on that circle?
Is there an option to leave the community intact?
If you kill everybody he just respawns them
@@AyoAfroman
Well then, Ayo Afroman... So *he's just respawning them all, in response of you're killing-off everybody* right then...🤔🙄
A little late for a response, but leaving them alive or doing what Braun says, just lead to them being eternally tormented them the same way.
Using the failsafe end his suffering by let them die in the real world and left braun to rot in his simulation.
How are you supposed to figure out the code without cheating
It's the beat of the song
Well thanks for the info right here, baby...😉👍
trial and error 🤷🏼♀️
@@cyrra8865 exactly,i did it without any tutorial. you just pay attention to the "beep" it does when you click a wrong thing...But I spent several minutes lol
Lol “Stanislaus Braun” what a name 😂
Fun Fact it is a very cool Name and also a Saint
Bro doesn't know what german people are
Fun fact: Bro doesn’t know I don’t care and also Ratio
@@RandomBurner Brainrot mindset
@@RandomBurnernice profile picture
I still say, that Fallout Universe is a simulator itself. It wouldnt be hard to do and lore even suggests it is possible. If someone went under in the late 40's or early 50's it would explain why everything was stuck in that period's lifestyle. It would also explain why transistor's werent supposed to exist, yet there are items in game that would require one.
I mean it is a glorified 50’s retro future even before the bombs fell they were well into the future im sure transistors would be invented just not as early as in our timeline also factor in the advancement of technology came from the 1947 Roswell crash
In theory the governments of the fallout universe im sure had their own Roswell incident in their own timeline with the lore of the mothership zeta dlc content im sure there were many crashes even before the great war which this 1959’s glorified future could be possible with all the futuristic elements
Eh I just theorise that aliens brainwashed most people to stay in that mindset to lead them to triggering a fallout. Once Human civilisation was for the most part destroyed, it make it easier for the aliens ti invade thr earth.
The games case and on the 360 store says it's a simulation so maybe it is
@@burritowarrior5367Not that kind of simulation
Theories like that suck. It's already a videogame, theorizing it's a simulation is just forgetting that and then wondering why it doesn't mesh perfectly with reality.
I need to actually play this game all the way through. I was worried about compatibility issues occurring with modern computers.
How are you supposed to learn the code legit i forgot
Its The musical pitch of the tranquility lane theme, Like betty whisles it in the center circle.
If I had to guess, it would have to have something to do with the background music, though I don't know, I'm doing my first playthrough of fallout 3 and the setup I have doesn't have sound
It’s been well over a decade since I played as a kid, but I remember you have to talk to the townsfolk to gather what little info you can. Then at some point after snooping around, you come across this device that makes sounds in different pitches. They all sound just like the song the main scientist guy whistles. Once you get the song right, a computer appears and you can activate the failsafe. Then all these Chinese guys come and start gunning everyone down killing them. But since the failsafe has been activated, that means that once they die, they die for real because their consciousness is no longer connected to it, and thus, cannot be revived and memory wiped like how the guy has been doing.
The way he switches from a little girl voice to a grown man voice reminds me of Manah from Drakengard or the Red Girls from NieR Automata.
05:26 - 05:37 "Betty" 👧🏼: " *Do you REALIZED on what you've DONE* ...😠💢?! 'Cause *you've triggered the Failsafe! Ruined. Everything* ...! The *subjects will dies* 💀⚰️ and *then, I'll be stuck in this place* here 😩😫! *ALOOONE* ...😭😭😭! *You've had ruined everything! EVERYTHIIING* ...😡🔥!!"
Brainrot
Bro
Don’t worry Betty, you can play with those chinese commies overthere! 😜😜😜
I can feel my neurons dying reading this
@@Ass_grabber 05:40 The Lone Wanderer: "And it's time *I'm about to calling out the shots* NOW, you ugly witch...😠💢!"
Thanks I could’ve but I can’t consetrate it would’ve took me some time about a hour
Mercy mass killing. Only in Fallout universe...
THANKS!!!
How do you know the order though??
Beat of the song
I remember this being one of my favorite quests mostly because my playthrough ended with Chinese soliders massacring everyone
Was the girl whistling?
Yes she was whistling the fail safe tones code.
Braun was eventually going to get bored... hence his over joy of two new playmates.. The failsafe was like eventual suicide code as explained in his notes.
5:25
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Such a shame, during that whole time he could have tried to make improvements to the geck, make it better. Allow simulated things to become real, etc.
I always join him. Being evil in fallout is the best.
It was a real joy to play the evil route in this mission. Making Timmy cry, setting up traps, killing everyone as a killer clown. I really enjoyed it.
holy shit this is just like the digital circus show lmaoooooooooo
*Begone.*
@@IHaveInsomnia333 shut up.. loser... hehahahah...
stupid fo3 logic. You’re evil if you kill the test subjects yourself but if you let the red army do it you gain good karma. If you liked this, you must really loved the garbage ending this game had lmfao
It’s because if you do what “Betty” says, you kill them and they can just be revived in the simulation and tortured for all eternity. But if the chinese army does it, the vault dwellers will permanently die and you’ll end their suffering.
@@MarcoGamer640Productions2012 you’re not making it sound less stupid by describing it.
@@MarcoGamer640Productions2012 2 wrongs don’t make a right no matter what absurd mental gymnastics you pill to make it sound “morally complex”.
@@ReuploadArchivist it makes sense if you played the game and listened, what hes saying is if you kill the vault dwellers they wont actually die they'll have there consciousness fully ported over to the machine and whatever body they did have would be dead so they would be forever trapped even if they found a way out, you condemn them to a worse fate then death
Its not wrong to activate the failsafe. Its a morally good thing to do as you are allowing those people to finally rest from that Hellhole@@ReuploadArchivist
So braun is trans???
Really? That's what you immediately think of? You need to get off the Internet.
@@HelghastStalker he is old man larping as a little girl
He is kinda trans....to be honest
@@HelghastStalker a old man pretending to be a little girl is trans as hell
@@user-tc9zv8re3fit wasn’t that deep
@@ExtraPrivatable a old guy pretending to be a little girl is weird
the worst part of fallout 3, if you could pinpoint the worst part in a terrible game
ok bro 👍
Cry
If you hate this game so much why are you here
Hard disagree. I'm not the biggest fan of Fallout 3, but Tranquility Lane was a great concept and very well excecuted.
If you didn't know about the failsafe you are forced to do evil acts just to rescue James, who then scolds you because by then your karma is probably shot.
OR activate the failsafe and then the residents get killed a bit more mercifully.
Up there for best modern-era Fallout moments for me, and again I don't really care much for Fallout 3!
The best part of a bad game