The mixed voice distortion problem...
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- čas přidán 14. 11. 2022
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There's a BIG problem most vocalists face when they try to add distortion to their perhaps newly-discovered mixed voice: It jams up.
Like oil and water, these two sounds or tasks seem to be in direct competition with one another. It doesn't have to be that way!!
In this video, I show you an incredibly easy fix for adding blistering yet effortless distortion to your mixed and high notes... Without strain!!
This video answers SUCH a specific issue that I cannot believe it exists. As if I asked you a question and you filmed a video for it specificly. you really are the greatest youtube vocal coach man
Still general enough that about every hard rock singer and metal singer using pitch faces it.
4:42 - 4:56 This is the importance of watching SO MANY videos on one small topic before moving on to something bigger. As many videos as I've watched that say the exact same thing, this specific clip and the way he specifically words it here finally just made me get so incredibly easily. Guys, I can't stress this enough; DO THOROUGH RESEARCH BEFORE YOU ASSUME YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING! Things like this are the difference between enriching your voice and completely destroying it. Remember that!
I find myself imitating the original artist's sound without realizing. I don't even know how MY mixed voice is supposed to sound or feel. I can always get the tones and hit the notes I want to, but it ALWAYS sounds drastically different depending on the artist I'm covering.
Chris you are a legend. I asked you this 2 days ago and now here you have the answer. I was playing with breakup in my cat mix beforehand but lost confidence in it because it didn't seem to join with the chest whisper grit method. But you've confirmed I was on the right track after all. Thank you so much.
Now we just have to figure out how the hell Maynard seemingly whisper grits the whole way up his range. Oh yeah, he's an alien 👽
I'll do one on those soon too!
@@chrisliepe his grit is machine-like in it's consistency all the way up his range. Mind boggling.
This is why singers need cars... Unless you're lucky enough to own a cabin in the woods, in the middle of nowhere. ;) Cheers!
That or you don’t care about your neighbours losing sleep 😂
Great vid Chris! You are the best!
Sticking to Chris' advice while being patient really shows off how effective his methods are in the long run. When I started, I got really frustrated I couldn't hit my resonance consistently, maintain breath support properly or even exercise my full range without fumbling if going low-to-high in the same melody (or vice versa). After a year of keeping his warm-up schedule and making sure to take notes each session, it helped. I didn't even realize how far I'd come until I went back to a song I struggled on and nailed it in one go, first try. Singing progress is like brushing your teeth: results are in the long term, not short term.
1000 Yess's & HEARTS!!!!
man i feel that i can finally start to distort notes! and it took a while but just as you and chris said, with patience i started to get the hang of it, im so excited!!!
Awesome tutorial! You always make it easy to understand.
Your course fee is the best 100 usd I have ever spent in my life given that I live in a place that our salaries is like 130 usd a month and I am not regretting it
the support + nasal resonance was a huge breakthrough for me and helped me increase my chest voice range and access the mix
Thanks again Chris, starting a band with my buddies soon and your classes have helped a ton. 👏
Thank you for these Chris, please never stop 'em coming. I'm seriously considering purchasing your method.
This Video is Beyond Words!!!! Shirt and Clear.
Thank you so much for this Lesson, and ALL your lessons
Last night blew my voice not getting this right singing AiC, I couldn't have asked for better timing for this 😅 thank you!!
So, I’ve been watching you for a few years now on and off and the “higher in your throat” tip has been the eye opener for why I haven’t been able to grab distortion in middle voice. Great tip!
Amazing job again as always Chris!
With this kind of knowledge that only you brings to us makes possible to every new video = new study material. I would also have to sincerely thank you once again cause since I started watching your videos I learned how to use a caracteristic grit in my voice that helps me sing distorted vocals with much more control and without pushing too hard or hurting my throat as in the past.
Layne and Scott was the first level, looking anxiously for more Maynard content like the multitracks and vocal focused lessons!
Thanks again, Chris, a brilliant lesson: it makes something that I thought would be impossible, reachable with the right understanding and practise. I love the way you sing Rooster with such power and grit. It will take me a few months to save up the money, but I'll be investing in your course as soon as I can. Thanks again. 🤜
That is great Chris. I like that you go into the break.
The more I play with the vocal break the more tools i gather for screams, distortion, rapid pitch changes, even it seems to apply to that tibetan throat screaming where you generate two notes an octive apart. The break is your friend once you realise it.
Wow. Wow. Wow. Been following for a long time and this is on the head. Approached the anti break voice for a long time and destroyed my falsetto by doing so… I’m now in the process of trying to regain it. This is so important to not avoid the crazy sounds at the break.
Amazing as always, very insightful ! Why just yesterday I was experimenting with my chest voice distortion, "lifting heavy", to try and scream and I realised that I was pulling chest up the scale, creating tension and air overflow, bad chord closure and all sorts of problems that made me sore in the throat after barely 30 mins. As a singer that kinda obsesses over control, your discourse on letting things happen and embracing the breaks and the unexpected is really freeing !
OMG perfect video in a perfect time! Was just practising this today and playing a gig next Friday, thank you! :D
Rock on!
Awesome vid, Chris! i tried to sing Rooster with you and for some reason i think i didn´t sound too bad. So thanks to YOU! you rule man. :)
I have used your methods lately a lot.
I have fun.
you're a really effective instructor. thank you for this material!
You're very welcome!
You’re videos were a breakthrough for me. Honestly, I’ve achieved more singing watching your videos than anything.
This is a really well done cover, I couldn’t help but imagine it though as a soundtrack for the epic family guy chicken fight.😂😂😂
haha
I've struggled getting grit with my mixed voice, but this was explained so well that I was able to really get started with building a better mixed voice tone with grit!
another great video chris thank you for sharing this very useful information ❤
Glad you enjoyed it
Wow, you are the greatest teacher!!!
Thank you! 😃
Chris rocks, had trouble with a vocal in the studio yesterday and this is just what I need to nail it today
This made a lot of sense!
Precious stuff !
Super helpful. A Bon Scott analysis would be great, he just nailed all this stuff
Awesome video! The key points that takes your voice above and beyond for any kind of singer is in this video. Dynamic placement is what stands out. The greatest secret to expressive vocals. You’re amazing Chris!!!
Thanks Jamie!! Love that you're getting a chance to share your music in so many settings now too!
@@chrisliepe Thank you!!! Your courses and what you have brought out of my vocal and music expressiveness has been the breakthrough point in my music. Thank you so much!!
This exactly the problem I was having and I didn't even know what the cause of it was! Thank you! My the Lord bless you in all your ways with prosperity and welfare!
VOCAL KING!
I definitely agree with singing with your own voice and then just trying to layer in whatever style/singer you're going for. Although, I will say; when I started singing, Alice In Chains is what I sang the most, so I do have quite a bit of Layne baked into my voice because of that.
Last 2 weeks I was trying to find the break in my mixed voice and just couldn’t, it was really frustating, but I kept going till today I was able to actually break my mixed voice, I didn’t knew that it was possible to break my high mixed notes, so yeah the process really needs time, thank you so much for the help, now I feel I can do this distortion high up!
right on time, thanks
Great video sounds great audio song. 👍
So good!
Thanks Chris
Great video Chris.
Thanks 👍
Chris is the man.
:)
Thank You for your Videos 😌💯😎✌️🍀
Great one Chris!
Thanks!
Killed that Rooster. I'm a new fan I love what you're doing.
These videos will act as instruction material for generations to come. So good.
I'm glad they'll be around longer than me :)
@@chrisliepe I was stuck in chest voice until I discovered your videos on mixed voice :)
Great to hear!
You're a beast man!
:)
The way you go from a light crisp in your mix to a more powerfully distorted mix in the first phrase of the Rooster Chorus is so nunaced, Chris. Wow.
In recent times I experiment to integrate a more "sizzely" light fry into my mixed voice that sounds raspy but also a bit more clean and gentle. On the other hand I've also practiced doing it with a lot of compression, which gives it that brutal aggressive sound. Both have their merrits and uses. But I find when try the light rasp (the one without compression), I sometimes lose the pitch (as soon as I switch on the rasp I'm about 1 semi- or quater tone below). And when I use a lot of compression, it's so much compression that the pitch of the note gets drowned by the distortion and compression. A bit too much!
I need to practice the fine-tuning. It's all practice practice practice. :)
thanks , awesome like always
You're so very welcome!
The best coach in the world
Chris, you need to start making more stupid jokes and funny modulations with your voice, your videos have the potential to be super helpful and hilarious at the same time XD
Great vid!
I love how you undestand me even if you dont know me, greetings from czech......
Maaan...the quality of your videos and the self perception you teach us to have...is absurd. Really good!
Happy to hear that!
Great video Chris! Thank you! You know I was wondering if you could do a video about vocal runs, licks and agility. The vocal runes you did on the cover of rooster are out of this world! (around 0:41 time frame) and I was wondering if you could get more in depth about this topic.
Hi Chris, I would love to see a "How to sing like Taka from One OK Rock" video from you someday! He has such a nice control of his rasp/distortion and I'd really like to be able to replicate that someday!
Wow this clears up a lot actually.
I actually got nasty distorted mixed voice, before good mixed voice, early on in my singing. I essentially just went into heady mixy stuff and do the heavy lift, but it’s more of a “relax everything.” It’s actually easier than chest mix. When I finally got some lessons (just one actually lol), I learned some excercises to get a good mixed voice. However, when I practiced that for a long time, it did become easier to sing mixed, and to keep my stamina up, but I sort of “forgot” how to distort. Had to go back and re practice.
What I learned:
Clean mixed voice: practice slides smoothly and quietly.
Distorted mix: practice singing with your break, not caring, “lifting”, THEN start caring about notes.
DAYUM! I hit the like button when you crushed that rooster!
0:50 Best advice for most stuff. Be comfortable sounding like yourself. Forcing certain sounds can be unhealthy, even if it works (It often doesn't)
OH MY GOD CHRIS YOURE THE BEST I FINALLY DID IT. IT LASTED A MINUTE AT MOST BECAUSE I AM STILL FIGURING OUT THE FEELING AND PLACEMENT AND ALL BUT I JUST SOUNDED LIKE LAYNE FUCKING STALEY OUT OF NOWHERE
F…..g GENIUS!!!
Great! This something I'd been hoping you'd make a video about. Not being able to create compression based distortion the same way in mix as I can in chest register has been confusing to say the least! Is what you described here the same thing as "the false cord squeeze"?
i think an analysis of Better Days or honestly any song by currents would be sick and a nice challenge for him
I love the little giggles when the weird noises come out. same happens to me 😂
this all feels to me like a spectrum between clean mixed voice and pitchless screaming
It is!
Ok I've said I didn't know what mixed voice is, now I've checked and I do it all the times since the beginning. It's the only way I can go "up"! And I thought it was cheating... Surreal ROTFL
Hey Chis
Bro! Will you be doing something on Janis Joplin vocals?
She is such a character in the key of A love spaz major. I am not sure if she focuses on tune. It is like Brian Johnson's voice with soad's characters.
She is so bad as$, crazy, on the edge of your seat listening. Sorry to interupt your content flow man.
Keep up the great work! 😃😃😃 love it!
oooh... this one's got me real curious.
Good! I hope your curiosity was met with some valuable things for you to try with your voice!
Would you ever do a vocals/cover video submission thing? Where you critic and review peoples covers and vocal techniques? Just think it would be a cool video
I actually do this on a weekly basis here: www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/sing-together-365-experience
1:00 I have to disagree with you there. Layne has a "technique" that Anyone can learn. I've been perfecting it for like 20 years or so haha and it Is doable. Not easy, definitely not. But if anyone Wants his powerful mix note With that heavy false cord phonenation ON TOP then it's possible. Your distortion example is more a Breaking Up of the folds like you said. But the Layne sound doesn't break up. The clean sound is staying the Same and then you "just" bring the false folds together to Also vibrate creating that lower octave rattling sound together with the clean. But what I do agree on is to play around with our voice to find different placements and sounds. Only way to learn really. I'm thinking of doing a tutorial of the Layne scream later on. Then you'll see more clearly what I mean. I did cover a lot of AiC years ago but the technique is way more refined these days and I understand fully what I'm doing
You've got a great voice Rob! Great channel too!
@@chrisliepe Thanks Chris! Your channel is awesome as well, I specially loved the Spencer vids and got the course, good stuff! Learnt a lot!
@@RobLundgren Just finished one up with Lukas Magyar (filming) ... Should be out in January sometime! He is an AMAZING teacher and communicator!
@@chrisliepe Noice!!
PLEASE make this tutorial man. i'm working on bringing false fold distortion into my upper mix. i've had some success but when listening to layne it's obvious i'm still missing some secret ingredients. i'd love to hear you explain your technique.
My problem is the opposite of this video. I got stuck in distorted mixed voice, and can't sing clean anymore. Watched a lot of CZcams videos, and can't find the information I'm looking for. When your voice is creaky in the upper range, how do you get it un-creaky? This also happened in 2017, but I don't remember what I did to fix it. Last year, I was singing clean, but had a lack of power in the middle range and this year I've been trying to work up more power, and that's when the creaking started happening. If I sing without a warm up, then what happens is my voice will flip into whistle register, even around D4. It sounds like a seagull.
That "NO!" is the bane of my existence 😅 I sound like a teenager who's about to loose their lunch money when I try to sing it 😭
Hey chris, solid video and i'm still searching for my mix, but my range is improving, finally got the a4 rather consitent and can even hit a Bb5 while belting. Any update on Ben Platt? The guy is possibly the best i've ever heard and would love your insights on him 😁🤘🤘🤘
Great to hear! Still wrapping my head around Ben Platt :) Hopefully soon!
@@chrisliepe yeah, he's absolutely stellar. Definite case of singing everyday for years lol
Living dangerously with that mic preamp gain. I guess that's the benefit of knowing your voice well.
:) yep!
I'm not really sure if Layne Staley was using the same vocal fry technique Kurt Cobain was using in most of his screams, because his voice sounds too much distorted to be simple distorted mixed voice...
I have the opposite problem, I found my distorted mix so I could try to sing Soundgarden, AiC etc. Now I've been listening to a lot of Jeff Buckley and I wanna get a cleaner mix but I always either fall into falsetto or my distorted mix
Ya know, I learned how to do this from listening to Sevendust. The drummer does BG vocals, with great examples of this. Then I was like, "oh that's what Cornell and Staley are doing!"
🤘
Chris you have that Jeff Buckley mixed voice down! Cover Jeff Buckley So Real I bet you nail it
Omg! 11:49 I always want my mix to sound like this with little nasal sound.
I know I've commented this before, but you sound exactly like William Duvall when you do Alice covers.
Kurt cobain does that on smells like teen spirit chorus also yes?
I was hoping you were going to tell me how to get rid of the distortion in my mixed voice. Maybe it will just go away as I get stronger?
partially yes, have you looked at my mixed voice course? Mixed Voice Method & Madness? You can find it at mymusicalvoice.com to get more info :)
Hey Chris
I have a question
How comes when other singers sing as if they are uninterested (without passion) they sound good but when I sing with passion people tell me it does not sound good
Should we be singing like we are uninterested (without passion)?
How do we sing passionately while still sounding great to other?
This is ultimately a LONG discussion, but something we talk about and explore at length in my coaching program. I'd love to have you join us sometime if you can! www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/sing-together-365-experience
Unlocking the flavors of mixed voice are hard. So much can affect it. I just got over the flu and recorded really intresting almost unique mixed voice by kinda throwing it. But i wonder if its still there since my throats more recovered
Honestly tho, ive learned so much about resonance this past year and ive associated them chakra points and learned how to play with and mix them and its been so engaging and fun, which i learned from extending on what you teach
Im also just now getting over the flu and I wish I could make my voice naturally sound like this the majority of the time ... I just find that raspy sound so pleasing
Hey Chris! I don't mean to sound greedy, but will you offer discounts to your courses when Black Friday rolls around?
No pressure of course, just asking out of curiosity.
All the best : )
YES!
@@chrisliepe WHOOOW!
I've been trying techniques from your mixed voice vids every day but as a baritone i can never get past an A4, any ideas what i might be doing wrong?
Same, stuck at G4/G#4
It might be your larynx
If you're raising your larynx and tensing your neck to raise your pitch you'll be very capped
I used to be stuck at like f#4
Work on your support and relaxing your throat and you'll be able to sing much more freely
Remember ANY pain or tension means you're doing it wrong
have you looked into my coaching program? I can help you figure out why you're struggling, but a simple CZcams reply won't cut it... I'd have to learn a little more about your approach! Go here if you'd like me to help you further: www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/sing-together-365-experience
@@chrisliepe Woah yes I'll look into it!! Do you still have open spots, I don't know if I'll be able to sign up quite yet
@@haydn220 Yes, you can sign up anytime :) !!
My problem is not that I can't get distortion in my mixed, but that I get it involuntarily when I want a clean tone. Especially when the note is particularly high and/or long. Anyone else have this issue?
This will help :) www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/mixed-voice-method-madness
I'm just here to say I noticed the PRS Singlecut soapbar
:)
I dont have a "good" and usefull vocal break. I learnd how to scream and growl in low and midle pitch without break but just by adding some "loud whisper" its seems pretty quite about 80 on db meter. With this loudness i can add distortion to clean voice. But when i try do vocal break its hurt and its doesnt "melting fast"
Shorter : vocal break hurts me ._.
I have lots of exercises for making your break useful in this course. It's a journey for some, and that's why I've gone so far in depth here: www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/the-aggressive-vocalist-s-master-plan-of-attack
When I try this out I almost always flip down to my subharmonic register. Any tips? Will this disappear over time or am I maybe doing anything wrong?
I'd have to hear you sing to give you any useful insights. Feel free to stop in on a zoom call sometime! www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/sing-together-365-experience
Hey Chris i have a question, when i sing very high and hard my voice becomes raspy, but it doesnt hurt, id this normal?
Yes it is normal, but doesn't have to always happen :) I can help you vary the amount of rasp if we work together face to face so I can see what you're doing and how you are doing it. Go here if you'd like: www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/sing-together-365-experience
This finally helps me get rid of the damn Mickey Mouse that lives in my voice. Honestly I think the thing that’s keeping me back the most right now is the psychological fear that the neighbors will call the cops on me. I am sure that one minute you hear blood-curling squeaks and squeals in the next I just some guy screaming in a distorted voice yeah!!!
Egg Bukkake......nice.
For me, the mix or the distortion only one can live!!!!!! Either its turns into this gritty false chord growl, or it's this stupid strong power metal scream
Hi there, I would like to send you a 10/15 sec audio recording of me singing the chorus of Rooster. Could you give me a contact please? It would be great if you would listen to it
Hey! Listening feedback is something I offer in my coaching sessions. You can join here: www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/sing-together-365-experience
you should get in contact with brendan maier who fronts an alice in chains tribute band and in some ways and moments sounds identical or very similar to layne staley, he'd be worth trying to get on the channel for an interview to see how he does things! czcams.com/video/douZSK2cRJ8/video.html
Chris can you please tell about Pete Murray? Is that mixed voice there on a chorus? It's something about C5 czcams.com/video/6hce4fKMgs0/video.html
Great idea for a video!
@@chrisliepe and maybe vocal of Protest the Hero? I've heard last album, i liked it really much
Have you gotten bigger? Your biceps look large at 0:34!
I think all songs should be sung with your own voice. However I can do a pretty bad ass Rooster. 😂