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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 29. 04. 2024
- The ESPN FC crew discuss what went wrong for Arsenal (71 points) in their 0-2 loss to Aston Villa as the Premier League race heats up with Manchester City (73 points) in control of first place.
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Arsenal told Liverpool you will never walk alone .
Brutal
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Arsenal and Liverpool just laid the red carpet for Man City to win the EPL title for the 4th time in a row. đ
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â@@robertnegron9706Yeah!.. Because Arsenal and Liverpool really want City to win the title?? đ€Ą
Not really. If Man City drop points, like even so much as a draw, and Arsenal wins the rest of their games, Arsenal wins the league.
@@dukeonwheels But on current form there is no way Arsenal is going to win 6 in a row, especially since they have a tougher schedule than Man City. City are much more likely to win their remaining games than Arsenal or Liverpool.
@@dukeonwheelswell not really though. Because arsenal are not winning the rest of their PL matches. They just wonât win against man united and Tottenham. I honestly think they will have real difficulty against Chelsea. If anything, Liverpool are likely to catch man city in goal difference and they just might win the rest of their games so if man city draw 1 match Liverpool are winning it
Arsenal fans: âWeâre unbeaten in 2024â
Unai Emery âHold my beerâ
Your team haven't won the league since Dr. Martin Luther King Jr was alive.
Prem fans ever always insecure đ
And your team haven't won the European cup EVER!
@@osundefosađđđđ
âGood ebeningâ
Imagine losing at home in a title race only to face a fuming stormy Bayern in 3 days time at the Allianz Arena who just lost their Bundesliga throne đ
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hungry Bayern 0-0 penalty or bayern winning đđ
â@twotwolow2343 no way its a 0 0 if spusy eric dier startsđ
Well it depends what Arteta does with the lineup
What does that word salad even mean ? Bayern winning on penalties or Bayern winning? What!? And hungry do you have to be to win 0:0 ? đđđ
You'll never bottle alone
This weeks results just goes to prove that no manager is actually close to Pep.
You will never bottle alone!
Itâs finished. City donât lose points in run-in. Congratulations to City. The greatest team in the EPL era.
This is the worst era of English football
â@@RonnyTulipIt's more like pep Guardiola era in EPL.
Yeah man City 115 charges, oil money this & that.....I agree with all., but we seen even with money Arsenal, pool doesn't have heart. While 1.6 billion $ spender Chelsea is dwindling in 2nd half of the table.
â@@RonnyTulipit is for the rest! đđđ
Farmers League
@@dhirshg it is for the rest! đ
all the noise was about us (Liverpool) losing to Palace. and then they went ahead to join us đ how wonderful
U will never walk alone
City won.
Losing to Palace at Anfield is a jokeđ
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That was Arsenal's support to Liverpool
@@chaitea2425 indeed
EVERYONE can see that Arteta has meddled with our winning formula at the most important stage of the season! The only logical explanation is that hes working for city!
Arsenal fans and Liverpool fans were laughing at Tottenham yesterday and now look.đ
Tottenham are shite
not just arsenal and liverpool fans everyone laughs at tottenham because it's a joke of a club.
@@miyabimu Tottenham are not a joke of a club but you're a joke of a human being. 8 fa cups and the first English club to win a European trophy are no easy accomplishments.
@@abdirizakful Well what a failure of an attempt to make a constructive argument.
@@MichaelMyerswillreturn Mate, your granddad was probably a teenager when they won all that
I will tell you that Emery had Villa play the first half to plan. It was to hold Arsenal back, test the waters, settle into the game and take any opportunities if they come up. The second half Emery adjusted his tactics slightly, tightened up the team, brought on fresh legs wih Bailey and inspired the team to increase their intensity and energy... the rest is history...
Yupz,spot on. Bailey often become impact subs this season đ
Thatâs easy to say now isnât it? They could have been 4 goals down at half time
@@onlythetruth596 you mean arsenal 0-4 down? Yeah. Villa hit crossbar a few times.
What matters in the end is the final result. 3 points for villa twice home and away from arsenal.
@@onlythetruth596 4 goals? you're high. after Martinez saves Trossard, there was no way you're winning this game. we put a hurt on you after that moment. big hurt.
@@petercollins5861 you sound incoherent, we are only 2 points off the top in 2nd place and Villa are in 4th place mate. We are not on the same level, and deffo not in the same competition you clown đ€Ą
This just proves that Pep is way better than Arteta and Klopp.
Nahhhh pep just have a better team
Oh you mean the baldy that couldn't win UCL with Bayern Munich with prime Lewandowski and has a ready to win League team wherever he goes...
Get ready for hurt rival fans to comment about oil money and ffp đ they know United and Chelsea have been spending large cash way before ffp but now they cry about it when all clubs have money but only point out City cuz we are the best team in the world đđđđ
â@@patrickdupiton8953this just low iq no way pep losing to palace coaching Liverpool đ or asernal. đ brahh pep is the goat you can argue the way you want that's fact
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City will manage to win one game at time not thinking about 6 games,,,pep and city are never exited before time
It now seems like the surest way to get a medal in England is to play for city . I am a Chelsea fan but I think pep is the greatest coach ever in EPL
Ton Brady of EPL
Lack of competition, SAF actually had to deal with other powerhouses during his time
Arsenal and Liverpool knows how to bottle đ
Here's how Villa beat Arsenal... Villa sat back in the 1st half and took everything Arsenal had which outside of a few Martinez's saves wasn't much.
Then in the 2nd half Unai Emery twisted the screws tighter and completely shut Arsenal out.
It was a brilliant display of managerial prowess from Unai Emery to give Arteta a coaching spanking... nothing more and nothing less...
Now show some respect to Aston Villa cos they have beaten every team above them !!
UP THE MIGHTY VILLAđŠđđȘđ
Sadly, we havenât beaten Liverpool, (but thereâs still time)âŠđđ
And sadly, you're still Aston villa, you'll neve win a trophy again, I hope that makes you feel better.
Leandro in the first half, that has to be a goal!
@@qinisomabena9562 Bottle Jobs ... Buyern Munich will flog Arsenal, Wolves will flog Arsenal, Tottenham will flog Arsenal, Everyone will flog Arsenal nowđ€Łđ
@@johnkearney478 I don't care. I'm not employed by Arsenal, tell that to them not me.
Emery is no joke. End of.
People are still sleeping on certain PL teams like Villa, Fulham, and Luton.
Luton and Fulham are not in the same category but I hear ya
Luton does not look like a team that should be relegated. They play much better and have decent players but always get bad results. That's coming from city fan
I wouldn't surprised if they manage to stay in the PL.
@@homosapien-bk5rfthey play direct and entertaining but itâs also risky
"You can't turn round and tell me that Arteta is gonna turn round and that Klopp is gonna turn round..."
Stevie loves to turn around đ
Didn't think City had a broader squad then Liverpool or Arsenal as Pep prefers smaller squads.
They definitely have a smaller squad.
City 4 in a row pending.
For some reason after the Liverpool game, and the way we started the game and not scored. You just felt something terrible was going to happen
This is a very good point. One of the reasons why Pep went for Juan Manuel Lillo was because he wanted to have an assistant coach that was not going to be afraid to advise him in crucial games..
Arteta is really to blame for real. Moving Havertz, inserting Zinny. And also not having Partey or Jorgi next to Rice was a travesty.
3 days later they go munich. its normal to rotate
@@ridzuan.rahmanyou rotate and keep what works not employing what made you lose
â@@josephmugerwa6189That's what I've been tryna say. Rotate, don't tweak what's working
Iâm an Arsenal fan for life, but this team just knows how to disappoint the fan, playing like this we ainât going no where⊠you think you can play Bayern Munich like this the will punish you, worse how their league has been won already there are hungry for a trophy. I wish our side is that hungry
Hey mate...i think we won't ever have it easy to get to the finish line when Mikel keeps changing things when we doesnt have to
You Arsenal fans need to appreciate Arteta. He has been able to assemble a great team with a little resources. I think 2 or 3 more transfer would make Arsenal very dangerous and better than Man City
Whom may he sign in your opinion & which position? Watkins is 1 of the clear 1's but who else?
@@seuna.8438little resources? The guy has spent 750 million pound since summer 2020 đŒđŒđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ąđ€Ą
The wheels always fall off in the last 7-8 matches of the season and whatever our trajectory seems to be till then just goes down the sh!tter. A tale as old as time.
The top three have been too arrogant.any team in the prem can cause an upset.this race is not over till the last kick of the season.
The fans, maybe but not the playersâŠ
Taking out trossard and leaving gabriel jesus in is an abysmal decision.
Question should be, why did he rotate the squad for this game? Trossard and Jesus should in the 2nd half, why change whatâs not broken? He underestimated Villa by thinking about Bayern
Trossard should play central instead of Jesus
@@lulamabowdenmagwa6803 Yes he did that because Tuchel rotated on weekend.
I'm not watching Arsenal again if Jesus starts upfront again. Terrible player upfront
He's obviously beholden to Jesus and Zinchenko. We all knew City would win anyway.
That is madness for Arteta. Why not partey?
Emery: âGood Ebening, ladies and gentlemen. I will be your host for this weekâs masterclassâŠâ
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His interview for the arsenal job was like,,, I want to continue the good things like Wenger đ
âGoal scorers and Goal gettersââŠwell said Shaka đđđż
He should be ruthless with zinchenko the same way he was with kiwior during the bayern game
He will not. Gabriel is also an accident waiting to happen of late.
@@ndibulelemnqokoyi3826 If kiwior gets in the side gabriel will be more calm remember with zinchenko adventuring everywhere apart from left back it puts alot more pressure on Gabriel and in a big game like villa its hard for him to cope maybe with kiwior or tomiyasu at left back things might be more calm
@brianmuchemi7111 agreed. There is no Or Tomiyaso that guy hasn't done anything wrong except epr being dribbled by Sane.
Arsenal should try to score goal in the first half. If the boys can't find the net, he should play more conservative in the second half and substitute more defensive players to the pitch. Getting 1 point is much better than losing 3 points.
When Arsenal heard Liverpool lost, they said: nice we can lose too.
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because They never walk alone
They said now we can afford to drops points didn't know about city
Best Sunday for Pep, everything falls into place, as it should.
To be fair, the runs from deeper by Havertz broke the high line multiple times, Diego Carlos just had his best match in a Villa shirt and chased him down every time
A lot were offsides, and the ones he got through ,he was either too slow or couldn't finish
Guys Haverts is good and he does score but he is just a slow boat and his reactions too are a lot slower
UNAI EMERY: âGud Ebeningâ. đđ
Spurs have been accused of being so Spursy,Arsenal sure is so ArseyâŠde ja vuđđđ
Itâs actually a pressure , thatâs why he changed his winning formation!
Stevie 200% right
they forget that Emery is a genius and Arteta was bamboozled
Say it, it is done! No fool around anymore!
Arsenal's loss yesterday wasn't at all a surprise. Its in their nature to fall off with just a few games to go. It happened last season and its happening again this season. This is Arsenal's character. As long as Arteta is their manager, they wont win the league title. Probably they can finish in 3rd or 4th position every season. Arteta is not rated highly...maybe around the 8th in world rankings. Still the highest rated are Pep, Klopp and Ancelotti. In fact, if you compare Arteta with Emery...the latter would still be a better tactical manager since he had won 2 or 3 europe league titles. Arteta has won nothing or maybe just the FA Cup with Arsenal only. Emery is humble while Arteta is boastful. Personally, I even predicted Arsenal to lose one match and draw two in the remaining games. That means a drop of 7 points. So can Arsenal still win the title? No chance...zero percent. City will win every game left. City is too experience to throw it away.
I quickly changed my bet to Aston Villa win when I saw the sloppy way Arsenal started. It's very uncharacteristic of Arsenal to start on a slow pace and lower momentum. Arsenal players' hunger diminished upon seeing Liverpool's loss to Palace. Arsenal being Arsenal đ
Arteta is NOT a top level manager. Letâs stop beating around the bush.
Shocking - of course it was all a failing of Arsenal. Show some respect to what Aston villa have and are achieving this season. Plus, villa are not Leicester !
What Arteta is going through is no different to what Pep went through as well. When he would over think things and make adjustments that dont make sense to city fans and the public. And as a result city lost very important Champions league games because of that. And Pep took the L's and learnt from them. The same thing is going to happen to Arteta, just give him time
Liverpool loses 1-0... Arsenal ' anything you can do I can do better' đđ€Łđđ€Ł
Klopp fumbles and Stevie is quiet but when arteta fumbles Stevie jumps on the overthinking bandwagon..sometimes i feel like a genius listening to this old man
Stevie & Keller are wrong, Pep changes the team and formation every game to suit the opponent and he's been the most successful.
You aren't that smart. Stick to what's working for you Arteta. Stick to it.
â@HopeBlakkyl the problem is that what worked for him was not his choice but injuries chose it fot him and it worked. Now he wanted to go to his own thing.
@@ndibulelemnqokoyi3826 That's a stupid idea. What worked for you was not your original plan but the alternative worked, perfectly well for 12 matches. Why change? It's not logical to change
@@HopeBlakkyl that's axacty what Arteta has done. Even last deakn benched Trossard for Jesus towards the end. To Arteta its Dugger you are a bench player or a first 11 player irrespective of performances.
like why would u changing a winning team???
Arsenal lost because of Arteta's madness!!! We don't change the winning team!!!
This is some truly atrocious punditry lol. Zero clue about tactics
Arteta showing he can out think Pep
115 charges wins the league yet again. SMH
Here's your 115 đŒ, bottlers đđđđ.
I didnt see 115 charges kicked a ball.. its human vs human tell ya team train harder
â@@olly1420115 charges still league two waiting
@@ChimezieOkoro-rb6yu if that happens city will get promoted and come back to the prem and win it before your teams does âŠ. At the end of the day its up to everyone to be the best at their craft ⊠arsenal and Liverpool mad bad decisions for their respective on the business end ⊠i could say the ONLY players arsenal needed to win a league was rice and Aleksandar MitroviÄ (affordable and consistent striker who finishes all those chances arsenal create but no yall wanna be glamorous n get kai etc which makes no sense ⊠liverpools downfall was not keeping mane longer and building a mid while players were leaving ⊠i could say arsenal should buy pedro neto to give saka rest and competition for extra tournaments and wing depth but no they doing bad business⊠ppl could disagree but its facts
Continue clutching on that straw
When you have hindsight,you always sound like a genius
You finally start to get Havertz playing well and scoring goals as s forward, then Arteta the genius sticks him back in midfield???!! đđ For jesus??
The single biggest reason why Liverpool lost along with Arsenal, especially arsenal is that Arsenal are in this time not used to dealing with a European campaign along with a domestic campaign. Arsenal looked extremely heavy legged in that second half due to there exploits in the second half. Arsenal still have room to grow when it comes to dealing with multiple competitions in the same season
Villa literally played in Europe on ThursdayâŠwe had 2 days less rest then Arsenal
Totally agree
Arsenal's 2nd leg vs Bayern will be a tricky tie. If Arsenal win that match, they will regain confidence again. I think City also will drop points somewhere along the way.
Are u going to the Bayern game on Weds?
The biggest chance of City dropping points is in the last 2 games; v Spurs and West Ham, but the title could be theirs by then anyway.
Liverpool would never walk alone
Arsenal : Yes bro
Aston Villa : Good ebening
Arsenal fans:
nobody can beat us!đ„”đ„đđ
UNAI EMERY:
âGUD EBENINGâđđđ
It's paining theses pundits to talk about villa victory âïž
I disagree, I just listened to Stevie on another ESPN show giving Villa and Emery all the right credit.
As above commenter stated, you're listening to one clip. This clip is about Arsenal's failure and issues tonight. They can speak about Villa winning just fine.
Jesus and havertz both in the same team will cause issue. Either Havertz or Jesus
Arsenalâs second half performance is down to the fact that they are competing in UCL. They are not used to this. Bayern took a ton of energy to play against. Arsenal looked heavy legged in the second half. Liverpool had tons of opportunities and had the energy, City destroyed their opponent. They are used to this multiple games and heavy workload, Arsenal isnât.
Devastated on this result against Villa- but we hope on is not yet over
Next season as usual
Itâs only 2 points
It arsenal wins, no oneâs going to talk about âchanging winning teamâ. They will say it as a ârotationâ.
This is exactly what pep does. Always change starting line up every match because of the tight schedule.
But Havert in the midfield didn't work in Nov. Arsenal lost to West Ham and Fulham. Sending him back there was non starter.
The City Arsenal draw 2 week ago with Liverpool then favorites for the title...has completely been turned on it's head.
Jan "I'm 100% sure that this is not over with", don't talk nonsense man, no one can be 100% sure.
Why Arteta took Ode off beats me. Why didn't Tomi come on for Sunny when Bailey came on like he did against City? Why why Why????! Can't get it
When I saw the lineup I knew there was a mistake. Should have just played Jorginho, Rice and Odergaard in the middle and Havertz as a false 9 like he's always done.
The other thing, Arteta is not a second half coach, when we went to half time without scoring I was worried. It's over for Arsenal, we are done.
Liverpool dropped the baton the moment Arnold said- "this means much more" after the Energy drink cup which City won 4-in-a row already.
These ESPN pundits don't have the stomach to call out Liverpool like they do every other team. Especially Steve and Craig. đ
I still wonder how EPL has become a one team league just like Bundesliga and French league
Bundesliga LITERALLY has a new CHAMPION đđ
@@user-tb3vg1dy8dafter how long??? Donât joke
The answer is Pep. Quite simply there are no managers at his level in the league, Emery comes the closest but is obviously not at the same status.
If at least 4 more players put in the work rate and commitment that odergard put in arsenal would have been miles better off
All the ills of today's performance can be laid at the feet of Arteta's selections and substitutions. They were unfortunately emotional and arrogant. He believed that his coaching could override the natural dispositions of players.
It was a pre-Dubai team selection with pre-Dubai results (plenty opportunities but an inability to score). As a fanbase we've been very superstitious about what happened in Dubai and how it transformed us. And of course we dont know all the secret sauce tactical, cultural, and psychological interventions used- but it is clear that one major visible transformative pivot was positional- Havertz as the centre forward, the 4 part midfield with Jorghino as base, etc. It is telling that the first game that we reverted to the pre-Dubai shape we got a pre-Dubai performance and result. Cause and effect. Let's learn that lesson quickly!
Our flaws against Villa were entirely positional. And those affected individual performance.
Im stating the obvious: Havertz should have started as centre forwatd not midfield. Jesus should have come on as a second-half sub- and then to replace Saka. Martinelli needed to start because this match was supposed to be a match for sprinters. Trossard should come on in his best role as high-impact substitute. Jorghino needed to start in the midfield and he and Rice could have alternated roles- on top or sitting deep- during the game according to the workload and to confuse Villa. Tomiyasu should have started over Zinchenko for defensive solidity. We all know what has worked in 2024!
By messing with the line-up Arteta messed with the team's flow, and we are at a part of the season when flow is supreme, when muscle memory can serve you well to get over the exhaustion and injury line when you're knackered. Players should get rest by playing only 45- 65 minutes- not by sitting on the bench during their most productive period. A post-Dubai team selection puts away those chances we were presented..
Arteta's unnecessary tinkering derailed the campaign last year pre-City, and he needs to learn the lesson quickly that Frankenstein monsters dont work for title charges!. Let the team be the beautiful Monster that it originally was post-Dubai. Now is not the time to tinker and second guess. Play People in their natural positions!!! There's nothing as tiring as having to act against type- and the team today simply suffered from being miscast...
Look, I love Arteta, but today he just got it horribly wrong.
The other issue is that it is time we formally designate Unai and Villa at home as bogeys. The reason why this is important is that Arteta and this Arsenal have overcome every single bogey systematically. Lets officially put Unai and Villla on the bogey-destruction whiteboard and execute. Next to Bayern...
We can still win everything by beating every team in front of us (and praying that City slip up at least once!)- the Super post-Dubai Team can do that with a cleverly used subs bench. Lets learn that lesson. Let's go, you Gunners!!!
Why did he change it..doesn't make any sense
Arteta lost the plot today. I don't ever want to see Jesus upfront again. Deeply bad when he is upfront
Where does a 9 play ???
@@Mersey0810heâs better as a RW
ââ@@Mersey0810Jesus is dogshit as a striker
@@josephmugerwa6189 saka ??
@@Mersey0810 heâs unfit
Arteta wanted to accommodate Jesus in the team, and down the middle, period.
He could put him in Trossard place instead.
Youâll never walk alone?
More like, Youâll Never BOTTLE Alone.
Truth is, City will drop points again, but so will Liverpool and Arsenal, so City will still win it.
Arsenal and Liverpool will drop more points than City, especially arsenal who have tougher fixtures than both City and Liverpool
They have zero knowledge of the game. đą
Arsenal just need to focus on the next game and react to the defeat. It's one game- that's football. There are fine margins and you lose concentration it costs you games. Regroup- refocus and stay humble- COYG
This 5:47 there's a reason city post 90+ pts most seasons .. its the squad I've always said it especially since salah as aged hes just burned out same happened 2 seasons ago liverpool just looked tired in the end where as pep always has the luxury of resting players
I think it's between Man city and Liverpool now.... Arsenal just gave Liverpool hope.
This was arsenal vs brighton from last season all over again..... its just a north london thing
Bruh, at this point, watching how this unfolds everytime. I wouldn't be surprised if there is match fixing involved cuz aint no way boyđ
Where is barley he used to say horrendous to utd wht will he say today
Naaa that's nonsense saying you can't change for anyone at home. You can actually do that at home because you can play a weaker side to rest players you need to rest knowing you have the crowd behind you.
You canât at the Emirates because there actually is no crowd behind you. They all start leaving ten minutes early.
Kamar is at work Arsenal should go and Apologyized to unai emery and mantiz for bad treatment from Arsenal â€â€â€â€â€â€â€â€â€â€
Man city winning the league without even trying đđ the usual
I am a City fab and was okay with Arsenal or Liverpool winning rest of their games and win the PL. That would have been well deserved and City has done it earlier to take the title. But they both fluffed their lines. This title would mean so much for their fanbase but now its not in their hands any more and if City does what they do well... Try harder next time.
He is a an arrogant managerâŠ.this is the issue. His substitution is ridiculous.
Arteta decided to lose the match with his awful line up , deoping jorgihno on the bench and playing haverzt on the midfild , i guess the title is in 115 charges hands now too bad
Has it not occurred to anyone that City can easily drop some points!!?
Havertz should not have started
Artetas stubborness and arrogance strikes again!
Arteta what a Donkey... His selection maked everything to worst. đ€Š
Artets trying to be to clever......Rice Partey , odegaatd for these games
Title chances change every week. This is the PL and all three teams will drop points again this season.
Tactical arterta poor
This season is gonna be different because C115TY is going to get points deduction. I think all the investigation is all wrapped up but they're waiting for end of season for the hammer since this title race with 3 contenders is quite rare and it's good for the viewers, shareholders and investors.
I think there will be point deductions to decide this season's title and maybe another point deductions from the start of next season and/or relegation to EFL.
Have a tissue for your tears
@@leman0232 Looking very likely you need it more this season. Don't forget to stock up.
@@guitarfreak888 i have some for you i know its difficult but you can go throught it