Former Secret Service Agent Evy Poumpouras on Russia, Ukraine & Protecting Presidents - Ask Dr. Drew
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- Evy Poumpouras is a TV personality, journalist, and former US Secret Service Special Agent with expertise in national security, law enforcement, crime, and human behavior. As a first responder during the 9/11 World Trade Center attacks, she was honored with the Secret Service Valor Award. She also served on the Secret Service’s Presidential Protective Division for President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama, and is the bestselling author of "Becoming Bulletproof."
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Evy is an absolute gem. So intelligent, gorgeous, BAD ASS and a fellow New Yorker like myself 😉Thank you for featuring her as your guest. She’s the best!
Thank you for this podcast! It's always a pleasure to hear from Evy. I have one comment.
I would like to refer to the phone call from Joshua. As a non-American it struck me that somebody would suggest that people "should be friends" because they are from the same "ingroup", and therefore shouldn't turn against each other.
People shouldn't necessarily be friends with somebody else just because they share the same skin colour, nor shouldn't hit them because they share the same skin colour. You generally shouldn't hit people regardless of their or your skin colour, and regardless of whether or not you are friends with them. That kind of respect and self-composure is unversal, or ideally should be.
Saying that somebody should or shouldn't do this-or-that to somebody else because they both share the same skin colour and saying that they should stick together and be respectful of each other because they share the same skin colour is still divisive. It's an us-and-them division - they should stick together and be respectful of each other because they are black and we're white, so we'll just mind our own business. We should all be respectful of each other regardless of our skin colour.
Workshop? Yes definitely. I had to refresh this episode about 20 times, YT kept cutting out! You are both leaders for our time. Thank you. I hope your ideas and thoughts are contagious. You are role models for those striving to be healthy strong and ambitious. Much love.
Dr. Drew I'm so glad you mentioned the nursing home and end of life topics. They kept my 93 year old dad in isolation for a year and no covid...he was very determined to live and 2 weeks after the shot 12 residents died "of covid" including him. It was inhumane and we should not tolerate that. Thank you for your voice 💜
VP 39.10, Dear Evy, I went to a women's college, Bryn Mawr, for three semesters as an undergrad. I dropped out after my ex-husband threatened to kill me, and I had a "nervous breakdown." Before I did that, I was a very rebellious student. I had one friend. She was from Indonesia. She was having cultural adjustment issues. We bonded because we were the only ones in class sometimes who would ask questions and speak up and, if we didn't understand something, we would make the professors break it down for us. We were kind of ostracized by our fellow students, who were very docile and preferred to take notes and not risk looking stupid. Now, I hear that Chinese students have this classroom demeanor, although that might be stereotyping. One of my professors told me, "You remind me of what students were like here before the Ivy League accepted women." I asked her, Why? She said it was because when the Ivy League opened to women, the higher caliber students went there. "You have spunk," she told me. Her name was Sandra Berwind, and it was twenty years ago, and she was very old. RIP Sandra Berwind.
Touch my resilience through the fence
She so beautiful intelligent 🥰God bless her 🙏🏻🇺🇸
When I was at the White House, Secret Service was chasing Bo, the dog! Funny.
Thank you for this podcast. Came in at the right timing, I needed that 💕
Same, I just grabbed her book from audible, so far so great, highly recommend. Take care.
Such a awesome interview!! Love her. Thank you.
I will be eagerly awaiting a book signing that I can get to. LOVE YOU, EVY!!!
So glad I came across this
VP 17.56, Dear Dr. Drew and Evy, I have to go to bed now. I will continue to watch this video over the weekend. My question for you both is this: Growing up, I was molested by my grandfather and witnessed my father beat my mom. I was also emotionally abused and neglected by both my parents. They were using drugs and alcohol to cope with their own traumatic childhoods, I think. I gave up on the psych industry when it landed me with six different mental disorders. I decided that I did not have major depression, a personality disorder, an eating disorder, or bipolar disorder and have been functional off meds for 13 years now. I most recently worked as a communications analyst for a subcontractor of a state Department of Corrections. At the age of 31, I went back into therapy and decided to simply self-describe as a child abuse survivor. My question is this: Is it wrong of me to resent people who have not suffered as much as me in terms of abuse or trauma for also being "PTSD" or using that label? The psych industry has been turned on to trauma-informed care, but now everyone has it, so it's almost become meaningless to describe oneself or someone else as "PTSD." What are your thoughts?
This was fascinating, thanks doctor drew and Susan!
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VP 1:01: 22, When I was in Occupy, and trying to go to grad school for creative writing, a fellow student, an affluent Scot who was also a photographer and who had traveled the world and gone on poverty tourism expeditions, told me that Occupy was just a bunch of entitled Americans with too much education. He told me that we didn't understand what we were asking for in terms of economic justice because he had been in third world countries and the people there were "happy." He said the kids would ham around for his cameras, and that was proof to him that I didn't know what I was talking about. I had been crime reporter, and I had seen children in housing projects behaving normally and joyfully. I knew better. I wanted to gag.
VP 29.20, Wow! What an original point!
VP 01.05.19, There is a chapter in my book Trainwreck on ketamine and heroin use among Millennials. It was an essay I did for my graduate program at American University in International Relations.
VP 07.27. Dear Evy, I have heard you refer to your environment growing up as very high stress. Mine was, too. A lot of abuse and violence and substance abuse at home. I am grateful in some ways for the stress, though. Because my family was very economically schizophrenic, i.e., my mother's side was pretty poor, and my dad's side very nouveau riche, it made me more adaptable and resilient. People used to have a very hard time reading what finance people call my "color" or determining my socioeconomic background. Now, interestingly, people say the same thing about my "politics" as in, "her politics are all over the place." I used to take offense, when I was younger and had a more fragile ego, but now I consider it the mark of an independent mind. So glad to have ordered your book.
VP 33.15, I did not identify with those words until after I became a police reporter for newspapers. The cops used those words. I also thought they were toxic masculinity. I was the only woman on the beat. However, the truth was that not every man could possible be toxic. In many cases, my sources treated me better than my editors. This was when I really opened up to using those words myself to describe and assess myself.
Very interesting
love ya drew been a fan since the late 90s and i got your latest book with your daughter comin my way soon too :)
Loveline 🤟
I agree and identify with Evy on many levels, however I do also believe strong people are by nature and or DNA sober and logical or with higher emotional and intellectual quotient as opposed to by proxy of being with or influenced by those in our association. I also firmly believe that sobriety is the key in mental health.
Years ago, I was on a private jet on a media trip with a multi-national advertising client, and we were hit by lightening and were forced to divert the flight to the nearest airport, and my fellow passengers were crying and scared, but I just had a strange calm mind set that: if we were all going to crash and or die, then crying and being scared will definitely not gonna help. We successfully landed in nearby Limerick Ireland and unexpectedly had an excursion. Such is the awesome journey of life and then we die.
VP 01.03.15, I am kind of a Taoist. When people say that the world is getting better, and when people say the world is turning to shit, I tend to think that the balance of good and evil is always more or less the same. It is instead people projecting their internal struggles on their external reality that makes them fall prey to extreme states of hopefulness or despair.
VP 01.07.35, Because she is awesome!!!
VP 01.06.00, My question is about celebrities. Dr. Drew and Evy, how do you account for this kind of behavior in people who have all these resources and presumably the best access to medical care, including mental healthcare? The Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard trial is another example. One of the blessings in my life was when I lost medical coverage prior to Obamacare. Because I have been diagnosed with "bipolar disorder" I could not get access to meds or doctors, while working, by the way, as a personal trainer. I was forced to rely on community agencies who referred me to counselors, some of whom were not even licensed clinicians or therapists. It was the best therapy I got, and I stuck with it for years. I am 41 now, and I am happy to report that, although I still struggle with nicotine addiction, I am still able to live a productive, happy life off psych meds and side effect free.
VP 17.18, This is a true story about me and Facebook. When I started a personal account, years after my peers did, I was scared to post on it because I had been a reporter. I didn't want to write things that people could see without the input of an editor. I would try to post things I thought were thoughtful or personal montages or essays or commentary on political issues, and very few people responded. Meanwhile, my family and friends would post micro mundane updates and chatter away. One day, out of disgust, and as a joke, I posted: "I like me." It was the briefest thing I had ever posted. It got the most comments and likes of anything I had ever posted, and I felt like an asshole because people clearly didn't get that I was mocking the platform.
VP 20.26, I have been fascinated for a long time now with a cognitive bias that trained investigators are taught to dispel. The bias is that people often, when presented with two competing versions of a story, two completely different narratives or explanations, people often overlook the possibility that there is a third explanation which neither side is presenting that more accurately accounts for the truth of what happened. Thus, the danger in political journalism right now is the polarization. If I were still a journalist, I would tell all my coworkers to 1. ask more questions and 2. opine less.
VP 28.13, I have heard that suicide rates among dentists and veterinarians are extraordinarily high. I suspect it is because these professionals are actually more empathetic than many physicians are. Plus, they have access to lethal painkillers and the knowledge of how to go painlessly.
VP 15.42, Yes, the outgroup gets ever expanded because the "window of tolerance" for the sufferer gets narrower and narrower, leading to epidemic rates of social anxiety which, sadly, Covid has exacerbated because of social distancing measures.
VP 53.40, Evy, I respectfully disagree here, given how long it took us to enter both of the previous World Wars and what our hesitancy cost Europe in terms of lives and political carnage.
VP 05.54, Dear Evy, How do you guys in law enforcement correct for language barriers when assessing interview subjects? I have noticed, for example, that former First Lady Melania Trump often gives responses in interviews that appear more measured than her husband. She speaks very slowly, deliberately and with a great deal of concentration. At first I thought this was her not speaking English as her first language. It could be a personality difference between them. She thinks before she speaks. What is your opinion?
VP 46.21, When my mom attacked me when I was 25, I curled up into a fetal position in the hopes that by doing so I could reawaken some of her maternal drive and make it stop. It worked.
VP 01.06.35, People who call themselves "libertarians" pull that trick a lot, too, I have noticed.
VP 01.20.57, Good for you, lady!!! I don't give a shit that you said shit on air.
VP 23.32, Yes, we have sanitized death. It is also why everyone is so fearful of aging and obsessed with looking youthful and manipulating their appearance. Vanity and fear and insecurity.
VP 20.49, Now, Dr. Drew, as Evy has talked about in some of her other presentations, humans are naturally loss averse. We remember losses and recount criticisms more to ourselves because it is part of our innate survival instincts.
If a worldwide pandemic doesn't bring people together I don't know what will
VP 01.13.20, That's a good point, Dr. Drew, so virtue signaling versus courage in action?
VP 01.16.00, I am going to look up the number of resignations from Secret Service agents after Trump assumed power. So far, four police officers have committed suicide in the wake of the January 6th riot. Let us all pray for them. One of the first major stories I ever covered as a police reporter was an active shooter situation that was not at all a clear cut suicide of a police officer. One of the questions I asked one of my expert sources was: If job-related stress leads to a high incidence of suicide among law enforcement, should the families of these suicides be denied their death benefits packages? In other words, what would be the ramifications of changing the policy to make suicide an in line of duty death? Would it incentivize more suicides? What is fair here for the survivors?
VP 55.47, I have a very hard, spiteful place in my heart as far as Russia is concerned because my maternal grandmother was a military intelligence officer in Berlin after World War II, in the lead up to Checkpoint Charlie, and she only ever told me so after I started studying International Relations at American University. One of the things she told me was that she and her ex-husband knew Francis Powers, the man whom Bridge of Spies with Tom Hanks, is about. She was mad at Powers for not killing himself upon capture, per his orders. I was taken aback that she would expect a man to automatically commit suicide, but she was also honoring me by actually telling me her life story. You could say my grandmother was a cold bitch, but every time people think to say that about me, I pause, because I have to remember intent. She was the most protective, caring and stern member of my family. She was the only one who even halfway understood me. I would rather be a cold bitch and save people's lives than be a humble coward.
Evy wrong Tulsi Right.
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Evy did big mike let you touch it?!
You've also diminished the word and act of "prayer". Her prayer specifically. No, those words are NOT TOXIC those words are empowering and honorable. Yes, for women, of course. Yes, survive, live, speak life. Sincerely, A New Yorker.
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Did he say Deception? Isn't that part of the motto of a certain int3lligence agency? So obvious this chick? was a handler
Cancel culture is the starter pack.
Let her work for Vogue or ANOTHER CIA EHORE HOUSE.s
This woman is gross. If I were president, and thank God that I'm not, this Sheila wouldn't be on my security detail. Her makeup alone tells me more about her than I ever needed to know.
Bye bye - I'm going to pass on the book, and the remainder of the interview.
Either that is very bad makeup or she needs a refund from that work.
Well yes , no , but she is beautiful it’s hard to take her seriously 🧐
Definition of relevant
1a: having significant and demonstrable bearing on the matter at hand
b: affording evidence tending to prove or disprove the matter at issue or under discussion
relevant testimony
@@virtualwhisky Relevant if it was a choice and willingly put on display, I would not comment if natural but these poor women need to regain their confidence.
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@@ashleelarsen5002? She looks pretty good.