How to Stop Orange Peel

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  • čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
  • To get the best possible finish using a spray gun there are many factors that will come in to it, the main areas you need to focus on are air pressures, paint viscosity (thickness), distance of the gun from the panel and gun settings. So in this video I have taken a lot of time doing experiments to show you the difference it makes using the wrong settings compared having it setup properly. I will be demonstrating with the DeVilbiss Gti Pro Lite using both Conventional TE20 & HVLP H1 air caps. I hope you enjoy and can follow without being too confused, I will do my best to answer any questions to help out.
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Komentáře • 586

  • @sg1oneill75
    @sg1oneill75 Před 6 lety +2

    Absolutely appreciated your time and effort. It is very rare when someone educating this way, with examples etc. and not just "playing the professional"! Thank you!

  • @AlexElias001
    @AlexElias001 Před 5 lety +3

    Thanks Gunman. It's noticible the amount of time and effort you put you these videos. As apprentice and an amateur in body repair and painting, your videos have helped me so much! Thanks a million man ! I hope someday I'll be able to paint like you do!

  • @SurfaceMagicLLCEastAurora

    I can tell you put allot of time and planning in making this video. It was really much appreciated. I enjoyed seeing the different parts of the panel using different settings and distance. It turned out to be a very educational video thanks :)

  • @captainkevin3208
    @captainkevin3208 Před 7 lety

    I'm a home shop new painter, and as I work through my project ('72 C20), I come back to review this and several other of your videos~ outstanding help! Thank you!

  • @matthewosier959
    @matthewosier959 Před 8 lety +4

    Thank you for taking the time to go out of your way and educate. Very much appreciated, your tips have improved my overall skill.

  • @mattslater2165
    @mattslater2165 Před 8 lety

    Awesome video Gunman. I've watched it many times, and I always to return to it for reference. I'm the in-house detailer for a luxury car showroom located on the Costa-del-Sol in Spain and over the years I've corrected hundreds of paint jobs, both factory and refinished paint, on some of the worlds finest cars. But I always felt that I needed to learn how to paint and extend my professional capabilities. Well thanks to you I've just recently taken my detailing services to the next level and started spraying paint. Thanks a million for your awesome instructional videos Gunman. You're the best on CZcams!

  • @DCS21O562
    @DCS21O562 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for your channel. I recently discovered your channel and subscribed after watching a few...and it just keeps on getting better for me as I delve into the watching the plethora of videos you have uploaded.
    As many others have said, it is really appreciated the time and effort that you put into your posts. Of course, all the time and the effort means nothing if the quality of the content is not worthy of the time and effort. Your content is very high quality and very worthwhile. Real world applications, problems and solutions. Kudos to you.
    This topic reminds me of an incident quite a few years ago when my daughter backed into a car., owned by a young man visiting a neighbour. A very good friend, who is a spray painter, offered to fix the other vehicle, only asking my daughter just for the cost of the materials (at my insistence. He would have done it for free, but I insisted she needed to learn from her mistake. A real world lesson as she was only 18). As a non-spray tech, I thought the young man's car looked nice.
    The young male owner who was fresh out of high school and thought he knew everything about the world, including how to spray paint a car.... because his car had recently been resprayed. He proceeded to criticise the quality of the repair work.
    Now my friend is an automotive paint rep for a paint distributor and his job was showing paint shops how to paint his company's paint products. He has been in the game since he was 18 (and was mid 50's at that time). It is safe to say he knew his stuff.
    What followed was a critique of this young man's criticism of the repair. This dissection included such details as you are demonstrating in this video about the quality of the resultant clearcoat matching the existing clearcoat on the vehicle.
    As my friend said "I can easily adjust my repair work to get the finish/quality of the clearcoat, to have less orange peel, but then it will look better than the rest of your (shitty) paint job. By the time my friend was finished the young man realised that the quality of his new full respray was not as good as he first thought it was after all. Gulp. That was real world schooling for the young man who thought he knew everything. LOL
    Anyway, thanks again from a new subscriber located in Brisbane, Australia.

  • @jeffdeluca1153
    @jeffdeluca1153 Před 7 lety +3

    Very helpful to see the various settings/distances! And thank you as I know there is a ton of time and prep goes into this project and you do it selflessly to help - Thank you Gunman!!!

  • @jakeramsey5898
    @jakeramsey5898 Před 3 lety +1

    Years later and this is still an amazing informative video. I love the science experiment feel with different variables. Just bought a '63 Ford F600 I can't wait to pain. Thanks for the video!

  • @happy60five32
    @happy60five32 Před 6 lety +1

    Gunman I appreciate what you do I'm a 30 year painter and I have learned so much from your vids! You rock thanks a lot!

  • @nikolaygrigorov4211
    @nikolaygrigorov4211 Před rokem

    I am a paint sprayer from few years and i used to learn a LOT from you. Thank you for exchange your experience wit us.

  • @jimmyers2543
    @jimmyers2543 Před 9 lety +3

    Another great Gunman production, keep up the great work and keep the videos coming. Looking forward to the LVLP video. Thanks again for taking the time out of your day to do these videos they show your love for the trade.

  • @dougdavis9486
    @dougdavis9486 Před 9 lety +6

    great video!!! no one seems to explain or break it down like you do in this one!
    thanks again.

  • @kingsbodyshopcollisionrepa9899

    thank you gunman ..for taking your time doing all the videos ....after 6 years go i came.back to remember where i gett some of my skills

  • @mikefullerton4992
    @mikefullerton4992 Před 9 lety +1

    Nice work man ! we should all be honoured with your hard work putting these vids together and explaining so clearly,thanks mate.

  • @rozonoazolo
    @rozonoazolo Před 3 měsíci

    I've been looking for avoiding the "OEM Finish" orange peels but to spray the clear as flat as possible so that I can delivery custom motorcycle paints (especially the dark windshield) with minimal sanding and buffing. Found nothing until I saw your "double it" approach in another candy paint video and the using of slow reducer and info in this video. Really saved my day, great thanks.

  • @Depression2010
    @Depression2010 Před 8 lety +1

    I just painted my 1969 Chevy C10 and it came out nearly perfect thanks to the sharing of your exceptional insight and skills.
    Reduced the clear. Set the gun up full spray. Turned out the fluid 4 turns and kept the gun 5cm from my work. Hardly even a hint of orange peel. I have 3 small sags/runs on the entire truck. Have to look hard to see them.
    Thank you very much!
    Your video's are totally awesome!
    Keep up the good work.

  • @wadest1163
    @wadest1163 Před 5 lety +1

    Ran across this video! Thank you for your time spent in educating the masses on proper painting. I've not tried reducer in clear yet but I will try it today. Great video!

  • @MrAlly1997
    @MrAlly1997 Před 8 lety +7

    Great vids. One can always learn something by watching and listening.One thing I do find is that a second coat of clear flows out better than the first and a third coat even better again. So while a perfectly flat coat is not possible it is possible to get pretty damn close.Keep up the vids. You obviously know your stuff.

  • @Eddiesmith616
    @Eddiesmith616 Před 4 lety +1

    I know this video is a lil old but just wanted to thank you for taking time to do these. I for one really appreciate it. They have helped me tremendously.....

  • @Crashart68
    @Crashart68 Před 5 lety

    Just wanted to say a mahoosive thanks for this video. People normally make instructional videos simply to say ‘look at me’
    I’ve just bought an HVLP gun to paint my road bike after someone keyed it. Was struggling with consistency and orange peel and couldn’t understand why
    Moving the gun closer and working with a better spray pattern... my frame looks like it just rolled off the line.
    Thanks again mate, legend!!

  • @jphilmac
    @jphilmac Před 6 lety

    Very good of you to lay out all the various settings to show the good and bad effects of the orange peel.

  • @scotthooper5127
    @scotthooper5127 Před 7 lety

    Awesome instructional video! Just saved thousands of dollars and a couple weeks of frustration trying to figure it out on our own! Great job and thanks for the effort on your part. Keep up the great work. Cheers from Canada.

  • @carlmatthews5604
    @carlmatthews5604 Před 8 lety +6

    Great job with the videos. I've been painting cars on and of for years . But I haven't painted anything for over 5 years and just starting to get back into it now , It's great to be able to get some pointers . Thanks Carl

    • @TheGunmanChannel
      @TheGunmanChannel  Před 8 lety +2

      Thanks for stopping by mate, check this blog I just did.
      thegunman.net.au/how-to-prepare-a-car-for-paintwork-dry-sanding/

  • @Velvethamma
    @Velvethamma Před 9 lety +27

    Top notch informational vid! Thanks for taking the time to make this! I'm sure it took lots of time to set up and video it!

  • @adamporter5453
    @adamporter5453 Před 4 lety

    Been painting for 13 years now professionally and this is a great video, all bang on stuff!! I find the gun set up is a big factor and he gun itself, reducer aswell!

  • @samsook3
    @samsook3 Před 9 lety

    I cant thank you enough Gunman!Really,you have no idea how much this video has helped me. I really appreciate it,Your time and effort will definitely not go to waste, i wish one day ,i could be as good as you! Thanks!

  • @hughtube1
    @hughtube1 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for your videos. As a complete self taught car restorer I am beginning to get some acceptable finishes. Thanks for your help at improving my skills.

  • @77camaro
    @77camaro Před 4 lety

    Well this is probably the best video on clear coat on the net. Heres what you get when you do this. Crazy how no one e er did this before. You gotta know why your clear is not right so you can fix it. Thanks so much. This video cured my orange peel issue.

  • @adi2200us
    @adi2200us Před 9 lety

    Very good video mate. I think it explains very good to less experienced people the idea of "orange peel" and makes it clear that a 100% glass looking finish is not possible out of the gun.

  • @reflectonauto
    @reflectonauto Před 3 lety +3

    We are ever grateful for the time you take to teach us all professionals. Your videos have been an eye opener for all of us. Heartfelt thanks from India for taking such an enormous effort to teach us something new everytime.
    God bless your family.
    Warm Regards
    On behalf of all professionals who learn from you

  • @mmoody271
    @mmoody271 Před 8 lety

    good job gunman & thanks for laying down the clear and the pointers. I appreciate your time!

  • @dermotmuck3856
    @dermotmuck3856 Před 8 lety

    thanks for taking the time to make this video mate. you've helped me put right where I was going wrong.

  • @RPMX4
    @RPMX4 Před 9 lety +2

    Your fans appreciate the effort you give. Thanks G'Man!! Nicely done and explained.

  • @rogerscott4497
    @rogerscott4497 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for your continued help in making us all better painters.

  • @Nickporter17
    @Nickporter17 Před 3 lety

    I agree with the comments about gratitude for your effort! What an amazing demonstration in the spray booth! I have had horrible results with my hvlp clears and i now know my gun was way way too far away. Thank you so much!

  • @boujeePerformance
    @boujeePerformance Před 9 lety +2

    Always love seeing a new paint vid upload from you gunman. Keep up the quality videos

  • @Renrondog
    @Renrondog Před 9 lety +2

    Thank you for taking the time, and a lot of effort to produce this video for us all.
    Great explanations, I'm sure it'll help me next time I shoot a clear.
    Thanks

  • @kevintoepper2828
    @kevintoepper2828 Před 2 lety

    The guy before me said exactly what I was thinking yes we thank you very much for all your time and effort and all your videos especially this one

  • @MrProxl
    @MrProxl Před 9 lety +1

    Great video as usual. Lots of great information. I think the right reduction for me will play a big key. Thanks again Gunman.

  • @B0tinh0
    @B0tinh0 Před 9 lety +1

    Great great great video mate!
    Thank you for taking the time!
    This right here is priceless!

  • @TresMamboMusicSchool
    @TresMamboMusicSchool Před 9 lety +35

    YES, VIVE LA SCIENCE. Mate that is a great and very clear fix. THANK YOU so lets see if I have distilled this right...If its peely then you can.
    * Up the pressure, (but not too much or it will go dry yes?)
    * Get closer (but dont go too slow or it will run)
    * Thin the material ( but not too much or you'll get runs, reduce the gloss, get solvent pop)
    Have I got that right?
    Mate the TAFE should be sending their teachers to YOU for "proper" training. Keep up the great work and dont think for a minute that we dont all appreciate it. Cheers

    • @TheGunmanChannel
      @TheGunmanChannel  Před 9 lety +12

      TresMamboMusicSchool Yes, Yes, Yes. Top of the class :-)

    • @tonkatoytruck
      @tonkatoytruck Před 3 lety

      Sorry for the stupid question but do these techniques apply to base and clear coat?

  • @mattdriftkerr7603
    @mattdriftkerr7603 Před 7 lety +1

    That was excellent, really informative and well presented. Thanks for take a big chunk of time from your schedule to do such a great video, it's very much appreciated.

  • @spiKey0svetlana
    @spiKey0svetlana Před 3 lety +1

    King of spray painting on YT

  • @61spindrift
    @61spindrift Před 4 lety

    you hoped we appreciate it? I am only up the 2 minute mark and already cant wait. Thanks for the hard work!

  • @craigvanderborgh4324
    @craigvanderborgh4324 Před 2 lety

    This is a phenomenal video and AMAZINGLY HELPFUL.
    THANK YOU for putting in the time/effort. This is a difficult and complex issue, but your approach clarified the whole mess a LOT.

    • @wheelie642
      @wheelie642 Před 2 lety

      I had a friend that had his own trick. After he added reducer he put a half ounce of thinner. Try it, test it.

  • @markrogers9202
    @markrogers9202 Před 9 lety +1

    Thanks for making this great video Gunman

  • @eds56
    @eds56 Před 9 lety +2

    Thanks for taking the time to explain this. Haven't seen a video on cut and buffing orange peel, did I miss it.

    • @TheGunmanChannel
      @TheGunmanChannel  Před 9 lety +1

      edsf100 I have a whole playlist on my channel. This link should get you there.
      czcams.com/video/1Pi1VYYTAUM/video.html

  • @leonward2084
    @leonward2084 Před 4 lety

    Excellent video has cleared up where I went wrong with the last bit of paint I did!

  • @ryanthomas1888
    @ryanthomas1888 Před 6 lety

    Thank you a lot man, this video still out there helping people, including me. Learned a lot.

  • @mlinder2000
    @mlinder2000 Před 3 lety

    Man that GT looks SO NICE. Great work

  • @tattiemchaggis
    @tattiemchaggis Před 8 lety +1

    Thanks for taking your time to do this video.

  • @shadows4775
    @shadows4775 Před 8 lety

    Really appreciate this video gunman,im studying body and paint at collage,and hope i get as good as you,i enjoy all aspects of this trade,its great. I always tell the other students to check out your channel.

  • @toddpinder4413
    @toddpinder4413 Před 8 lety

    Excellent video really appreciate you taking the time to make it, helped me paint my boat. Cheers!

  • @mitchellferre1652
    @mitchellferre1652 Před 9 lety

    Great video !!! I see a few areas I will be able to improve on. I was using u-pol and Dupont hs clears with 10% reducer or none at all. Could have used a touch more. I will move faster, closer to panels with tighter overlap. Thank you so much for taking the time to produce this helpful video ! Thanks Gunman !

  • @joshteel3226
    @joshteel3226 Před 7 lety +1

    Awesome job and I appreciate the time that you put into your videos!

  • @MR6.5
    @MR6.5 Před 6 lety

    Hey brother thanks so much for this video! You really helped me get my spray gun setup. I sprayed a really beautiful job this weekend, thanks to your helpful videos.

  • @danielpiljek2666
    @danielpiljek2666 Před 7 lety

    Awesome man. I'm a first year in Sydney so still have a lot to learn. Your videos are helping a lot. Cheers

  • @tombair1401
    @tombair1401 Před rokem

    This is why I watch lots of time and effort in this video .I have been afraid to go up on the reducer for fear of the clear coat not lasting but I want to try it at 20 percent .

  • @194853DodgeTrucks
    @194853DodgeTrucks Před 6 lety

    Videos like these take a lot time and effort....thank you for that brother!

  • @KAL00KI
    @KAL00KI Před 5 lety

    Great video; I learnt a great deal about that important final finish. Thanks

  • @mcummings4643
    @mcummings4643 Před rokem

    Cheers Gunny, We all do appreciate the time and stuffing around you put into your productions.
    I like the colour on the MGB GT but not a fan of a white engine bay but I'm sure it comes out well.
    Cheers Cavemanmic

  • @mrteddymetal6291
    @mrteddymetal6291 Před 6 lety

    I can not thank you enough for sharing your expertise... THANK YOU!

  • @eastcoastzoomie1952
    @eastcoastzoomie1952 Před 3 lety

    Thanks! Great demo on the interplay between distance, pressure and viscosity. I just laid down a crappy orange peal primer. Obviously 20 cm Was too far away and I was only adjusting viscosity and upping the air pressure a bit. Going to block and retry. Thanks again for the knowledge.

  • @starckmad1779
    @starckmad1779 Před 2 lety

    Great division of samples. I’ll definitely use these suggestions in respraying some clear on my Airstream argosy end caps!

  • @jrmathes6567
    @jrmathes6567 Před 5 lety +1

    I absolutely appreciate what you take time to show us lot, thanks for it.

  • @CAPTKMK2
    @CAPTKMK2 Před 7 lety

    Thanks Gunman, this vid is awesome. I can apply you're info to why I'm get orange peel, I spray Pro-line epoxy with 35psi and about 7" away, now the gun will be around 6cm and move a little quicker.
    Thanks for all your time

  • @larryphillips5490
    @larryphillips5490 Před 9 lety

    Thanks for the time you put into the video. I do videos in my shop occasionally also and I know how much time ot takes. Thanks again!

  • @Rignold
    @Rignold Před 5 lety

    Thanks for a really informative and useful video. Couldn't have asked for better on the subject.

  • @dreiher2
    @dreiher2 Před 9 lety

    Thanks for this video. I think it helps us to try and manage peel better. It is always more of an art anyway, but there is some science to it. It looked much flatter with the conventional tip, but of course it is a matter of feel, and you can probably replicate almost any peel just by adjusting pressure, distance and speed anyway. However, I think the lower reducing and pressures and thicker clears will always be more peely when they dry.

  • @brianmathews5158
    @brianmathews5158 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for the time you put into this.

  • @pepijn6033
    @pepijn6033 Před 3 lety

    This will definitely help me out a lot when spraying clear again. I forgot to use thinner the first run, which caused a big orange peel all along the spoiler. Hope I can buff it out later and use this video as a reference for the bumpers. Love your work! Thanks a lot!

    • @Nickporter17
      @Nickporter17 Před 3 lety

      How did that work for you? I also found this video right about I sprayed a super bumpy first coat on my project.

  • @LCthoughts
    @LCthoughts Před 2 lety

    WOW THIS WAS VERY HELPFUL
    Thank you. Very informative.
    Cleaaaaan work at the end

  • @nunyayourbusiness7327
    @nunyayourbusiness7327 Před 7 lety

    we always appreciate your videos and effort

  • @thesociallyresponsibleanar2882

    I love your vids, and this one was really helpful. Thankyou mate

  • @LifeOnTheHulls
    @LifeOnTheHulls Před 6 lety

    Great video buddy.So good to see that comparison and appreciate the work and research involved in this video.Cheers

  • @senecacatt
    @senecacatt Před 7 lety +1

    Thanks for taking the time to do this vid ,very insightful

  • @froggy8301
    @froggy8301 Před 5 lety

    Excellent video, learning so much, you effort is truly appreciated very much!

  • @clivesb8677
    @clivesb8677 Před 8 lety

    Thanks for you time and effort mate. Appreciate it!

  • @Joseph-ln5rg
    @Joseph-ln5rg Před 9 lety

    Great video!!!!! Thank you... I really appreciate the time you put into explaining "your science project". I've rented a paint booth and will paint tomorrow. I'm an amateur and have painted a total of 13 (complete) cars. Your videos helped me understand some of the mistakes I've made in the past. Well done!!!!

  • @robbroy
    @robbroy Před 3 lety

    Legend man your videos are brilliant - totally appreciate your work.!

  • @smacdiesel
    @smacdiesel Před 7 lety

    Thanks so much for your videos! I'm a beginner and really appreciate your tutorial skills.

  • @patpattiboy6923
    @patpattiboy6923 Před 9 lety +1

    Cheers buddy. Love watching your vids

  • @KROOOZIN
    @KROOOZIN Před 2 lety

    more like this. direct comparisons. This was fantastic. you can take the same idea and create a whole series of direct compares with different settings, different reducers, metallics, pearls, etc etc etc... which honestly, is what is severely lacking on youtube. Or anywhere else for that matter. Seeing is believing..... This video helped a lot.

  • @arturobolanos9080
    @arturobolanos9080 Před 9 lety

    Hi Gunny
    Great video, thanks for sharing this critical process of correctly mixing the clear and variation on pressure and distance to the panel. WOW. Keep up the great video, I actually look forward to Thursday and Sundays watching your videos.
    Cheers
    Art Bolanos
    Houston Texas

  • @stephenfisher3554
    @stephenfisher3554 Před 8 lety

    Awesome video! Best explanation I've seen. Super helpful.

  • @tylerkunkel3746
    @tylerkunkel3746 Před 8 lety +1

    subbed, I have learned a lot in just a couple videos, thank you.

  • @yousufnimer480
    @yousufnimer480 Před 5 lety

    GREAT VIDEO!! i cannot thank you enough for your work its really great! keep it up always u are a star!!!

  • @bgee461
    @bgee461 Před 5 lety

    Thanks Gunman, your videos are very educational. 👍👍

  • @amanwithhiscigaretteandcof3474

    wow...
    THANK YOU very much !!
    one of the best GREAT TUTORIAL on youtube that i've ever seen so far !

  • @Bobswann6723
    @Bobswann6723 Před 6 lety

    Thanks so much. Your videos are excellent and have saved me from a lot of mistakes, again thanks

  • @waiguolaoshi7231
    @waiguolaoshi7231 Před 9 lety +17

    Mate!!! You're an example of what Aussies were like before the nation became another state of Washington..Thank you for your time and education !!

  • @dandeac1907
    @dandeac1907 Před 7 lety +7

    You are FUCKING awesome buddy. You were made to do this in life, a lot of people can learn from you. Thank you for sharing your experience with us.

  • @mikedunmore5238
    @mikedunmore5238 Před 9 lety +2

    Beautiful vid. That shit looks like hard work with all that recording taping labeling editing. I'll make sure I watch it several times😎

  • @wfjdavis
    @wfjdavis Před 7 lety

    Great information in this video. Thank you for taking the time for sure.

  • @the_fomoco_man5160
    @the_fomoco_man5160 Před 6 lety

    Extremely helpful and very much appreciated!

  • @TimsGarage
    @TimsGarage Před 9 lety +1

    Awesome vid, I screen caped the settings and will be using them in the future for sure. Thanks mate for taking the time to help us all do a better job

    • @TheGunmanChannel
      @TheGunmanChannel  Před 9 lety

      Tims Garage No probs mate glad you liked it, the top right 2 I wrote out wrong and are not 9cm but 6cm for optimal peel conventional gun.

    • @TimsGarage
      @TimsGarage Před 9 lety +1

      Thanks mate, My main car I have done the bonnet 3 times, besides not being able to get the right shade of grey it peeled bad, buffed up fine, but id like to give it all one last attempt before taking it to the professionals if I can.

    • @TheGunmanChannel
      @TheGunmanChannel  Před 9 lety

      Yep, it is close but thats how I paint and move nice and fast.

  • @PadmaDorjee
    @PadmaDorjee Před 2 lety

    You are so incredibly helpful mate, thank you.

  • @gpzpilot6770
    @gpzpilot6770 Před 7 lety

    Much appreciated!!!
    This must take a long time

  • @onomatopoeidia
    @onomatopoeidia Před 4 lety

    Helpful video thanks. Beautiful finish on that MGB mate!