The Most Complex Character in Science Fiction | Amos Burton from The Expanse

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  • čas přidán 21. 05. 2020
  • It's time to cover another character from The Expanse. No doubt it's hard to top the video we did on Camina Drummer, she's awesome. I figured the only chance we have is to go with everyone's favorite psychopath, Amos Burton. Today we take a deep look into his background, personality, and actions. What makes him tick? Click to find out...
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  • @GenerationFilms
    @GenerationFilms  Před 3 lety +31

    Check out our breakdown of Alex Kamal: czcams.com/video/3evVTJ7Tq7k/video.html

    • @rahulahuja9230
      @rahulahuja9230 Před 3 lety +1

      Brilliant analysis of Amos.

    • @GeorgeAHunter
      @GeorgeAHunter Před 3 lety +2

      Amos is my favorite character... Holden is the unattainable Paladin archetype that everyone says they want to be, from a socially acceptable view and not actually willing to practice the resolve and piety to achieve. To me, Amos runs some parallels to the Tin Man in The Wizard of Oz. Amos denies he has a heart and a moral compass. He does indeed have both but has had to deny and suppress both to survive and maintain some mental balance. Amos attaches himself to those, yes loyal to him but more importantly to those he subconsciously knows to have rightness and strong convictions. Believing at a conscious level, it's better to have those persons with principles and righteousness to ‘guide’ him. He performs the necessary and unsavory tasks that will result in a just result. In some sense, I believe Amos takes solace in his flawed nature be at least used for honorable causes. Thinking he is unworthy of remediation. I think the undertones of his character are indeed moral, however, he will not trust in them or doesn't want to face them as he may have to question many of his actions.

    • @timbradwell3205
      @timbradwell3205 Před 8 měsíci +1

      You are wrong about chewie he is a war veteran from the clone wars who was enslaved by the empire .the reason he follows around han is because he owed han a life debt because he freed him from slavery and overtime became very good friends if not brother to han who he knew if he did not keep an eye on would get into trouble. Also he is very technically savvy to starship mechanics and advanced tech in general every one assumes he a big dumb animal because he is big and hairy and his race can not speak basic.wookies maaped some of the earliest hyperspace lanes

    • @pg5137
      @pg5137 Před 8 měsíci

      @@timbradwell3205 and he also can speak Galactic Basic)

  • @Korkuthan87778
    @Korkuthan87778 Před 4 lety +754

    Dude looks extremely superficial at a glance, yet he is the deepest character in the show and my favorite character by a large margin.

    • @toolegittoquit_001
      @toolegittoquit_001 Před 3 lety +1

      No, but it’s close

    • @Korkuthan87778
      @Korkuthan87778 Před 3 lety +7

      @@toolegittoquit_001 Well, each to their own.

    • @thecocktailian2091
      @thecocktailian2091 Před 3 lety +15

      He is the deepest character by a wide margin.

    • @androkguz
      @androkguz Před 3 lety +2

      @@thecocktailian2091 I mean, even if you think he is deeper than Avasarala, you can't claim there's a wide margin.

    • @TheIronRobin
      @TheIronRobin Před 3 lety +4

      @@androkguz you are correct. Amos is deep; so is Chrisjen

  • @tiredlocke
    @tiredlocke Před 4 lety +2118

    "Chewbacca relies on Han Solo because he's an animal. He doesn't have the mental faculties to quite analyze the world around him to the level of humans." Whoa, whoa. What kind of Imperial racist propaganda is that?

    • @DopamineKata
      @DopamineKata Před 4 lety +267

      heh I got to that part and stopped the video. If he can't even get Chewbacca correct how is he going to have insight on Amos?

    • @The91strecon
      @The91strecon Před 4 lety +224

      Guys. It’s a joke. If you’ve never watched generation tech, they have a running joke that they’re pro human and anti alien. Watch any of their district 9 videos for more.

    •  Před 4 lety +32

      "let the wookie win" - Obi wan said this to R2, when they played that holochess. That has a parallel in one of the sequels, where Chewie beats some of the new characters multiple times. He was not the smart one in episode 4.

    • @nougan_tanker
      @nougan_tanker Před 4 lety +65

      @@DopamineKata Yeah, I also stopped the video there with disdain. But decided to look at the comment and see if I'm the only one or if there is a reason for this harsh comment on Chewbacca. TwistrateMedia
      below mentioned it's a running joke, that sorta explains it, but they should add some onscreen comment/call-out to give new/in-frequent viewer of the channel some context/reference to such running joke.

    • @DavidKAnderson
      @DavidKAnderson Před 4 lety +11

      @@DopamineKata Same...with clicking "don't recommend this channel" next. Clueless...

  • @thegrimcritic5494
    @thegrimcritic5494 Před 2 lety +248

    The way Wes Chatham played Amos being blind on Illus was what made me realize exactly how good of an actor he truly was. The way he sat in the dark, completely still and dejected, only to suddenly and viciously lash out like a cornered animal when Holden tries to touch him… honestly, seeing him act like that made me cry. For a character as brave and strong as Amos to suddenly be reduced to a shivering stray dog who lashes out from fear of attack speaks VOLUMES about the acting ability Wes Chatham brings to the table.

    • @neutchain7838
      @neutchain7838 Před rokem +11

      100% agree, he is an incredible actor and he was so perfectly casted for that character. Amos is a really nuanced person, not many people get to the point of finding this out about him but those who do can call themselves lucky becasue they probably gained a friend with extreme loyalty.
      If you are more interested in the character ( or the show in general ) and Wes they have a podcast called "Ty and that guy". His Co-host is Ty Franck, one of the writer of the show and the co-writer of the books ( James S. A. Corey is not a real person, its two dudes ). They go through every single episode of the show and talk about writing and acting in detail ( often with a guest, usually someone from the episode ) and a lot of behind the scenes stuff. They are movie nerds so they talk a lot about other stuff as well, I find it really entertaining and it shed light on what a cool dude Wes really is and what a great job he did with that character. Highly recommend it.

    • @jimalbi
      @jimalbi Před rokem +2

      Wes should have been offered many ggod roles after that.

    • @cypherryand
      @cypherryand Před rokem +4

      Watching interviews with the actor and you see how invested he was in the character as well as the process and friendships involved in the whole Expanse experience. I so hope they do a Movie trilogy of the last three books with the original cast.

    • @grawham
      @grawham Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@cypherryand I'd also take a show revival for another 3+ seasons!!

  • @Youfailallday
    @Youfailallday Před 3 lety +301

    Murtry “someday you and I are going to end up bloody”
    Amos “how bout now? I’m free right now”

    • @nickiphillips7347
      @nickiphillips7347 Před 3 lety +27

      A line delivered perfectly. The acceptance of an invitation to fight, maybe to the end. A multi-dimensional line, breathless anticipation, as any big cat anticipates his kill with pleasure, the disguise of the quiet civility in his voice, the flash of danger, hidden but emerging, the joy of the decision to let go and fight. A line delivered perfectly.

    • @Kyle-sr6jm
      @Kyle-sr6jm Před 3 lety +29

      Amos hates waiting for violence. He is a rip-the-bandaid-NOW kind of guy.

    • @davewade30
      @davewade30 Před 3 lety +7

      Probably my favorite line so far.

    • @MrR3set
      @MrR3set Před 2 lety +2

      @@Kyle-sr6jm what this guy said.
      Remember those belter extortionating the passangers in the ship to Luna.

    • @russellmarra8520
      @russellmarra8520 Před 2 lety +1

      @@davewade30 A good line to be sure, but my favorite was Avasarala to her spy, "When you mysteriously disappear, your body will never be found..."

  • @s.u.n.t.a.n6573
    @s.u.n.t.a.n6573 Před 4 lety +1231

    “Alex cares about Mars. Naomi cares about the belt. Holden cares about coffee.”

    • @rodrigobogado8756
      @rodrigobogado8756 Před 4 lety +180

      Holden is a wise man

    • @jonathanbush6197
      @jonathanbush6197 Před 4 lety +79

      Heh well he has a funny way of showing it. That poor machine...

    • @MTerrance
      @MTerrance Před 4 lety +132

      Holden is a romantic in the classical sense. He tends to see things in black and white, which is similar to Amos, but unlike Amos he has a moral compass. I think Amos is almost entirely transactional, living in the moment. He cares about others, but very selectively. While Holden agonizes over a decision and its consequences, Amos cuts to the conclusion and acts swiftly, yet he knows he could be wrong, which is why he follows Naomi's lead before he switches to Holden. He knows he is prone to act without reflection so he relies on others he trusts to think things through to a degree he does not. Great friend but a terrible enemy.

    • @theblueelephant1350
      @theblueelephant1350 Před 4 lety +1

      22:19

    • @MMOplayeerr
      @MMOplayeerr Před 4 lety +39

      @@MTerrance Johnson: "We want the same thing you know. Were on the same team."
      Holden: "That's the thing with all you Earth, Mars, the Belt, the OPA. It's all bullshit. There shouldn't be any teams."
      Johnson: "That's a beautiful dream son. And I hope I'm around to see it come true. But in this world that we live in, in order to survive, you have to pick a side."
      You could argue He sees in black and white with this comment, but I say exactly the opposite. Its those other teams seeing black and white. It us against them. Its always us against them.
      Holden is naive idealist and thats not what seeing black and white is. Where, I could say He sees in black and white is that, He might not want to realize that Its just isnt that easy for teams to not exist and that as Johnson says, sometimes You have to pick a side.

  • @Connor.SG-1Ring
    @Connor.SG-1Ring Před 4 lety +1282

    Amos: "I am that guy."

    • @abbaszaidi8371
      @abbaszaidi8371 Před 4 lety +10

      Connor Kent! “Thank you@ 👊

    • @hellfish2309
      @hellfish2309 Před 4 lety +4

      Ilim Garak: “First”

    • @jedijc5411
      @jedijc5411 Před 4 lety +35

      Walking Dead: If Daryl Dies.. We Riot!
      The Expanse: If Amos Dies...................... WE "ALL" Become........ That Guy!

    • @therunningcow4202
      @therunningcow4202 Před 4 lety +24

      Easily his best quote so far

    • @IsaiahAmos017
      @IsaiahAmos017 Před 4 lety +8

      I really am Amos

  • @zercules9156
    @zercules9156 Před 3 lety +65

    i love how the Expanse timeline is denoted by Amos's beard length

  • @MrAndyBearJr
    @MrAndyBearJr Před 3 lety +178

    The reaction that Amos showed when Prax told his daughter that Amos was his best friend was subtle, but spoke volumes in that moment. He realized more than with any other of his shipmates, that Prax saw past the rough exterior, and valued him as a personality, and not just for his usefulness to the crew. For a brief moment, he saw the chance for self redemption that he desperately needed. That was possibly the most significant emotional event in his life since losing his mother.

    • @h3llo0cto
      @h3llo0cto Před rokem +7

      OMG, I"m not a cryer, but that scene came sooooo close to bringing tears to my eyes. I might have had to pause the show for a minute or two. Amos is the BEST character. I might argue that Amos is the moral center of the crew...........

    • @KhordLizardMage
      @KhordLizardMage Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@h3llo0cto I'm always torn between Avasarala and Amos as the best characters on the show.

    • @FlagCutie
      @FlagCutie Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yup, that moment always makes me cry.

  • @GenerationFilms
    @GenerationFilms  Před 4 lety +744

    *Amos says Prax is his best friend in the whole world*
    Me: I'm not crying, you're crying.

    • @joshfritz5345
      @joshfritz5345 Před 4 lety +38

      It takes some serious writing talent to make a character like Amos. They are deeply flawed, but their flaws are also part of what makes them such a useful member of the team. They are the team muscle, the badass and the fighter, yet it's implied that their willingness to kill without second thought comes from a lifetime of trauma that made them who they are. To see Amos depend on Naomi as his moral compass only to have his trust in her broken was heartbreaking, yet also helped him grow as a character when he formed his connection to the botanist, helping him with his mission to find his missing daughter, and pulling triggers that his newfound friend just couldn't. All that, and they occasionally deliver a genuine laugh.

    • @Giarcnek
      @Giarcnek Před 4 lety +7

      Fuck Yes!...Well done Ben!

    • @maggnus87
      @maggnus87 Před 4 lety +12

      My all time favourite scifi character, and i feel you did him justice.
      looking forward to see your take on the next season.
      kind of insulted you called chewbacca an animal incapable of human things though, i am quite sure chewie is a good pilot and has a good vocabulary. in his language that is.

    • @seriousmaran9414
      @seriousmaran9414 Před 4 lety +11

      Amos is the one you want looking out for your back of you ever get into danger. He is not bad, he is willing to use violence, but that isn't everything. He seems to be trying, in his own way, to save people and punish the guilty. He cares about people who is in need.
      In his way he's the superhero, at least as much as Holden.
      He is the sort of person who would deal with a criminal politician, not just make excuses or betray his own country.

    • @johncnorris
      @johncnorris Před 4 lety +8

      American Ben and Amos would make a great couple... Couple of best friends, I mean.

  • @joshfritz5345
    @joshfritz5345 Před 4 lety +199

    Amos casually eats a can of chicken that he minutes previously used to bash the brains in of a guy who was refusing to help them.

    • @reginaldinoenchillada3513
      @reginaldinoenchillada3513 Před 3 lety +17

      Is there a better way to demonstrate dominance? "I like chicken." Roma. So, that's what Amos took. Probably wasn't even that hungry.

    • @tSp289
      @tSp289 Před 3 lety +7

      Probably dented the can. Wouldn't want it to spoil now, would you?

  • @BlackLionRampant
    @BlackLionRampant Před 7 měsíci +17

    I totally love how he's described in the third book by Anna (the pastor lady). "Good-hearted unrepentant killers were not something she'd had to fit into her worldview before this, and she wasn't sure how it would work. But now she'd have to try."

  • @PeBoVision
    @PeBoVision Před 4 lety +313

    The look on Amos' face when he is referred to as Prax's best friend to May, always brings a tear to my eye. Without a word, Wes Chatham spoke volumes.
    It's why no one else could play Amos Burton.

    • @adeosinowo3197
      @adeosinowo3197 Před 3 lety +7

      Spot on mate, that small scene moved me the most & ever since i've being trying to find out about the actor Wes Chatham. To this day i cant imagine any other actor pastor present playing Amus as well as Chatham does.

    • @roxstar5088
      @roxstar5088 Před 3 lety +5

      And also, at the beginning of the next season when he gets interviewed. He refers to Prax back as his best friend when he is asked what a Prax Table is.

    • @eldennub
      @eldennub Před 3 lety +3

      Wes Chatham is pretty passionate and knowledgeable about sci fi. When listening to his podcast, you can tell he did his homework for the expanse.

    • @russellmarra8520
      @russellmarra8520 Před rokem +1

      @@adeosinowo3197 " To this day i cant imagine any other actor pastor present playing Amos as well as Chatham does." Sure they could. How about Wally Cox? Or Andy Divine? lol

  • @SirMarshalHaig
    @SirMarshalHaig Před 4 lety +131

    "My own mother thought I was a monster...she was right of course, but it still hurt."

    • @merlyworm
      @merlyworm Před 3 lety +15

      Azula quote of course... But Amos ISNT a monster.

    • @Roma-rusk
      @Roma-rusk Před 3 lety

      Ayyyy

  • @Lady_highrock
    @Lady_highrock Před 4 lety +542

    that look that Amos gave Prax when he told Mei to go with his best friend in the whole world. That was small but that moment... that's why I love the expanse

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  Před 4 lety +62

      😭I belive someone was cutting onions during that scene.

    • @otakarbeinhauer
      @otakarbeinhauer Před 3 lety +26

      And the look he gave Mei when she said "Hi." to him...

    • @scottlampe70
      @scottlampe70 Před 3 lety +4

      That is my favourite scene in the entire series.

    • @goji059
      @goji059 Před 3 lety

      if it came to it an hour later, Amos would put him down

    • @_non_zero_sum_game8958
      @_non_zero_sum_game8958 Před 3 lety +9

      @@otakarbeinhauer i was thinking the same thing. maybe i'm looking into it a little bit too much, but i saw it as a look conveying gravity, humility, graciousness, and little bit of fear, the fear you get when someone trusts you with their child.

  • @RCAvhstape
    @RCAvhstape Před 3 lety +106

    Amos is really just big fuzzy teddy bear, someone needs to give him a hug. Just, not me, you know, someone else. You do it.

    • @rohesilmnelohe
      @rohesilmnelohe Před 3 lety +11

      Fans call him "murder snuggles"
      So yeah

    • @naynay3710
      @naynay3710 Před rokem +2

      We can all give him a hug.

    • @frans8861
      @frans8861 Před rokem +6

      @@naynay3710 yeah he can't kill us all. Can he ?

    • @naynay3710
      @naynay3710 Před rokem +3

      @@frans8861 Dat's right!!!

    • @electrorage4158
      @electrorage4158 Před rokem +1

      @@frans8861 We were alive when he left the room

  • @dalemurray4083
    @dalemurray4083 Před 4 lety +148

    I see Amos as a totally rational realist, His attitude towards reality is "Rocks are hard, water is wet, and moral angst or emotions wont change that". It's not that that he doesn't have the emotions, he just doesn't often let them affect his choices. He always chooses the most efficient option with the best odds of success and doesn't factor in things that are just inside of people's heads. He comes from the jungle so his reality is built on the laws of the jungle. If a solution requires violence he uses violence in ample measure and as efficiently as possible. I don't see him as being motivated by anger except when something involves the abuse of children, otherwise he uses rage to generate adrenaline when he is going to need it, the way athletes do.
    Here I'm guessing, but i would think that his dependence on Naomi was because, after escaping from the incredibly dangerous jungle he came from , to the relatively civil environment of the belt, he quickly realized that his assessment of situations and his calculation of necessary responses were not fitted to the new environment. So he found someone who seemed to be more fitted to that environment and let her handle those judgments and decisions, which was the most rational and realistic option available to him.
    I don't see him as a psychopath, he seems more like a feral child, who is learning belatedly in adulthood how to form attachments and loyalties, which should have happened in early childhood and therefore will never be the same. If he was a psychopath he would have e stolen every thing of value from the ship or maybe even the ship itself, sold it, and disappeared into the crowd as soon as possible.

    • @harryfloros8796
      @harryfloros8796 Před 3 lety +7

      In book 5 his childhood friend Erich from Baltimore finds himself in exactly the same place, his only life experience as a gang boss in Baltimore is useless to him in space. That life is over and there’s no going back. Amos is an expert out here and he isn’t. He offers to defer to Amos in all things.

    • @cameroncross20
      @cameroncross20 Před 3 lety +5

      His interactions with Peaches don't line up with being a realist. In that case, I think he was following the path shown to him by his adopted mother when she took him under her wing. Now he is taking Peaches under his wing, because of how lost and broken she was, and is trying to act out the part of protector. Still, as she pointed out after he killed the guy in the cabin, his choices and actions aren't one a normal person would make which was why he was so desperate to get back to Holden and Naomi. I still see him as a sociopath and that makes him more interesting to watch. As a result, he has countless possible actions and interactions going forward since he is essential capable of doing anything (acts of extreme sacrifice and kindness or cold unflinching cruelty).

    • @cameroncross20
      @cameroncross20 Před 3 lety

      @Everything Soup Thankfully that is undoubtedly true

    • @eyooffiong
      @eyooffiong Před 2 lety +1

      I mostly agree with that except that there are levels to psychopathy, lols.

    • @oyvey6869
      @oyvey6869 Před 2 lety +2

      Well said. He didn't trust himself and didn't want the responsibility of morality. When he told Holden that Holden always tries to do the right thing it becomes clear. He want to outsource morality knowing he, Amos, is doing the right thing bc it's to help Holden. So when Holden enters a gray area (eg disabling the torpedo abt to kill Inaro) it's very disruptive to Amos.

  • @kevinbendall9119
    @kevinbendall9119 Před 4 lety +500

    In one of the publicity Comic con videos Wes Chatham said that he actually spoke with a psychologist about how a person with Amos' personality sees the world. Being a child that grew up seeing so much horror and injustice made him blind in a sense to the horror of violence and abuse. Amos knows he's blind, so looks to Naomi and Holden as his guide to moral behavior. This also explains his connection to "his best friend in the whole world", an ordinary guy who has stepped into Amos' world through no fault of his own, and is doing his best to cope with it. Amos is shielding him from the worst of it, while helping him achieve his goal. And saving a child from the horrors is something Amos knows is "good".

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  Před 4 lety +69

      Awesome input. Part of my point is that Amos is able to commit violence and acts we'd consider immoral becuase he's so desensitized to violence. He's a good natured person who was nurtured in an evil environment.

    • @KirillTheBeast
      @KirillTheBeast Před 4 lety +13

      @@GenerationFilms Reading Tiamat's Wrath confirms both this and the "I was born to be the last man standing" quote.

    • @shanehebert396
      @shanehebert396 Před 3 lety +16

      From other Cons, Amos was discussed. Another good description is that he is a sociopath. He understands that he is broken but wants to be "good". To achieve this, he identifies someone that he trusts and who he thinks has a good moral compass and does what they say (he does what Naomi says, for example) and imitates what he thinks they would do. He's basically adrift morally and finding/following a guide.

    • @cheeseguy3412
      @cheeseguy3412 Před 3 lety +35

      @@GenerationFilms
      Amos looks to others for a surrogate conscience - He's a being of violence, and he knows that he's been irreversibly damaged - He literally cannot tell right from wrong in many cases, and he knows that, too. He looks to others that have a strong moral and ethical drive, or at least those who he thinks have those things. He seems to determine this, by watching others struggle against their own self interest - whoever can make a *selfless* decision that come at personal costs in order to enrich others - he gravitates towards them, and latches on. Selfish vs Selfless are things Amos understands intimately - but he doesn't comprehend how to get from point A to point B without making things worse.
      Amos doesn't know WHY those decisions are moral, and ethical - he can't feel it, but he knows it when he sees it, and he shapes his own reactions based on factors exclusively external to himself, at least in most cases. In the books - we can see this when he's separated from those he's latched onto (Late, late book spoilers, so avoiding it here.) In terms of his 'fear of imprisonment' - its more a fear of the loss of self that comes from not having access to those he's been using as moral and ethical guides. He may not feel now, but he did when he was a child - and the *memory* of that fear is what torments him, drives him to a fear reaction - he hates feeling powerless, he hates becoming the person his childhood forced him to become - and he would rather die than face that loss of self, or those memories.
      Amos knows what he is, and he knows what he becomes in the absence of conscience - Without access to Naomi, and later Holden, he becomes a monster the likes of which he hasn't known since he was a child, and he hates *that* more than anything else. He's trapped in amoral survival mode without a conscience, and he doesn't know how to be anything more. In his mind, he's doing Good - *but only* as long as he's accomplishing what tasks Naomi and Holden tell him to - if he does that, he's safe - he can avoid doing to others, what was done to him. Amos is a cunning, calculating, intelligent monster - but he knows he is, and he wants to be better, he just can't do so alone. In the end, what Amos fears more than anything, or anyone else - is himself, and what he'll do to others without a guide. To reverse the common cliche, he doesn't fear fear... he fears the lack of it, and the harm he knows he can do without it.
      Amos is a contradiction - He's a good man that only knows violence. He's a selfless man that only knows greed, and he counts on those he follows to show him how to be better.

    • @sergeantpete6295
      @sergeantpete6295 Před 3 lety +23

      @@cheeseguy3412 I'm not Amos. I didn't grow up "that fucked up", but I spent my young adult life pretty screwed up. Don't discount his ability to learn from his mentors or even just figure shit out on his own. People, even damaged people like Amos, aren't robots. We learn and adapt

  • @L0stEngineer
    @L0stEngineer Před 4 lety +365

    "You must think I'm pretty stupid, don't you? I mean, you're right. I can take a core apart and put it back together with my eyes closed. But ask me whether or not I should rip your helmet off and kick you off this bucket, and I couldn't give you a reason why I should or shouldn't". -Amos
    This is definitely a guy who you don't want to screw up his
    Latte macchiato order.

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  Před 4 lety +20

      Haha for sure.

    • @MikemfPanik
      @MikemfPanik Před 4 lety +40

      The last part of the quote speaks volumes as to who Amos is:
      "...Except Naomi wouldn't like it".
      Proves everything Ben said about his loyalty to those who treat him as a human instead of as a monster

    • @Krahazik
      @Krahazik Před 4 lety +9

      @@MikemfPanik Later Holden gets added to that list. Would Naomi or Holden like it or not. They become his moral cumpas.

    • @MatchBookNotes
      @MatchBookNotes Před 4 lety +5

      He would kick you out of airlock for calling it a latte macchiato

    • @jaffarebellion292
      @jaffarebellion292 Před 4 lety +6

      And when he says "No anchovies", there better not be anchovies within five city blocks of that pizza.

  • @podunk9798
    @podunk9798 Před 3 lety +40

    "Who is he daddy?" "This is Amos, he is my best friend in the whole world. He helped me find you."
    I think Wes Chatham's portrayal of Amos is underrated (though it was mentioned in this video) The look on his face when that statement is made. Its so subtle, and that scene makes me tear up every time I see it. This show is so good.

  • @dannyells
    @dannyells Před rokem +37

    He’s done so well in the show- he’s also AMAZING in the books. The extent of his love and loyalty- especially to Holden, is intense. Even death doesn’t keep him from trying to protect his captain. Also, his love for Peaches and Tiny? He’s a big pit bull, protecting everyone he deems worthy.

  • @crashstudi0s
    @crashstudi0s Před 4 lety +295

    If given the chance, Alex would throw everything to get Mars terraformed and fully habitable, Naomi would do the same(has done) for the belt, and Holden would love to be left alone in some coffee fields.
    But Amos only wants to be free with those he cares about

    • @JamesHardaker
      @JamesHardaker Před 3 lety +12

      farscape also gave all of its characters a reason not to be there and yet they stayed. it makes their bond feel more important. Unlikely friends has got to be one of the best plot devices ever

    • @CHMichael
      @CHMichael Před 3 lety +5

      Amos likes to take care / protect someone that deserves it in his own way. You are right - moderator not so much.

  • @martienvandenberg5181
    @martienvandenberg5181 Před 4 lety +346

    His character arc in the series so far is great, his character arc in the book's (so far) is off the charts.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Před 4 lety +26

      I know right, just wait until the folks who haven't read the books see how he and Peaches get along, talk about another layer!

    • @Miclpea
      @Miclpea Před 4 lety +14

      How about Tiamat’s Wrath? Just wow!

    • @forgefathereli8354
      @forgefathereli8354 Před 4 lety +7

      the book is always better....

    • @forgefathereli8354
      @forgefathereli8354 Před 4 lety +3

      and i haven't read it i just believe you

    •  Před 4 lety +2

      Oh yeah, last book was absolutely incredible... I just found out I have no words lol

  • @Darkwingdave5
    @Darkwingdave5 Před 3 lety +144

    "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." Winston Churchill

  • @TyroneSayWTF
    @TyroneSayWTF Před 4 lety +33

    Gotta admit; Amos is the character on The Expanse that I most enjoy watching. He's just dripping with cool. And you just know that at some time during an episode, he's gonna say something funny, off-the-wall or just memorable.

  • @mikevasquez1103
    @mikevasquez1103 Před 4 lety +145

    Wendy's drive-thru operator: Can I take your order?
    Amos; Now you see, I'm a bull Naomi and Holden are farmers and sometimes, farmers gotta make beef
    Drive-thru operator: OK so that's one burger.

  • @MaciejBogdanStepien
    @MaciejBogdanStepien Před 4 lety +88

    Alex cares about Mars
    Naomi cares about the Belt
    Holden cares about COFFEE
    Amos cares about the Rocinante
    a perfect family. :)

  • @mikedrop4421
    @mikedrop4421 Před 3 lety +13

    Seeing his growth in season 5 was amazing. Hearing him say that Jim would never have greenlit one of his plans and realizing that he must have made a mistake then and he needed to get back to the roci was heart tugging.

  • @justinstoll4955
    @justinstoll4955 Před 2 lety +7

    I love the bromance between Amos and Holden. The the ying and yang that has kept them alive.

  • @swaghauler8334
    @swaghauler8334 Před 4 lety +103

    "How would you know what it's like to walk around in [high heels]?"
    "I didn't always work in space."

    • @gnomeandgarden6157
      @gnomeandgarden6157 Před 4 lety +8

      *pumps

    • @swaghauler8334
      @swaghauler8334 Před 4 lety +8

      @@gnomeandgarden6157 Some people (especially non-English speakers) don't know what "pumps" are.

    • @hendrsb33
      @hendrsb33 Před 4 lety +7

      My favorite Amos quote!

    • @hymanocohann2698
      @hymanocohann2698 Před 4 lety +5

      The fact that they used the term pumps added whole level of sophistication to the scene.

    • @Livewire1119
      @Livewire1119 Před 3 lety +4

      Which actually makes sense in context if he grew up in a brothel. I could see a young boy wondering what made those shoes so special...

  • @GenerationFilms
    @GenerationFilms  Před 4 lety +177

    I want to highlight a comment in the replies down below from Robert Winslade: "Amos has a simplistic world view ("there are people you protect, people you follow, and people you kill), but there are complex reasons why he is that way, then throw in the fact that he is very aware that his way of seeing the world is too simple, and wants to try to be a better person and he becomes far more complex than his worldview would suggest"
    I think this really nails it. There are characters who are simple-minded and their actions reflect that and there are people who are complicated and act in a complicated way. The reason Amos is especially complex is that his mind and thoughts are complicated but his behaviors are simple and rather predictable. He is a complicated person who chooses to be simple. That's unique.

    • @seriousmaran9414
      @seriousmaran9414 Před 4 lety +2

      He also tends to react in a simple and direct way, which can result in a correct or wrong action.

    • @shady83
      @shady83 Před 4 lety +6

      I think hes more like han than chewie

    • @johnwang9914
      @johnwang9914 Před 4 lety +2

      He has a need for simplicity to rationalize actions in his past and the cruelty he has suffered. He follows because he needs to have someone to trust and follow.

    • @notmyrealname7738
      @notmyrealname7738 Před 4 lety +12

      I never found reading the books that amos 'wanted' to change in anyway, He simply accepted who he was, and who everyone else was. If anything it seems he lacks empathy, and fails to understand why people act one way but think another. For him the world is black and white, where as for Holden its several shades of grey.
      Amos is by far the most Honest of all the character in the series, he rarely lies or misleads anyone, he simply acts in what he thinks is the right thing to do, and doesnt care what others feel about it.

    • @drbuckley1
      @drbuckley1 Před 4 lety +3

      @@notmyrealname7738 I think Amos was altered as a child to be fearless and devoid of empathy. He knows this and inquired whether his condition could be reversed. He was told that his psychological modification cannot be reversed.

  • @michelleb.9402
    @michelleb.9402 Před 3 lety +13

    Amos is my favorite character on the Expanse. I get that Holden is supposed to be the star, but I see Amos as being more heroic. He fights all the dangers they all fight, but he also fights against his own darker aspects of his nature. He chooses to be good and on the side of righteousness. It doesn't come automatically to him. Confession: I haven't watched the video yet, but I'm going to watch it now.

    • @v44n7
      @v44n7 Před rokem +1

      Holden Is my fav character because he Is supposed to be the Star. But he doesnt want to AND doesnt know how to deal with that. I was so suprise about all characters in the show. Miller was something else for sure

  • @jackburtonstwin
    @jackburtonstwin Před 3 lety +18

    Wes Chathem and the writers imbue Amos with a level of pathos far beyond standard science fiction fayre. Wes completely inhabits the character of Amos. He is a fine character actor as, I understand, he could not be further from the character he is portraying in The Expanse.

  • @SgtAntenor
    @SgtAntenor Před 4 lety +129

    I think it really helps is that Wes Chatham's favorite character from the books (he was a fan before auditioning if I remember correctly) was Amos, and because of that he has put even more care and attention into his portrail of Amos. Wes even went and talked with therapists and such to understand how someone that had lived Amos's life would act and present themselves. If you've not seen it watch the two interviews he's done with Adam Savage on Tested they are great.

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  Před 4 lety +47

      Actors who play tough guy characters like that never get enough credit. Wes can really act! Dude has a bright future.

    • @drbuckley1
      @drbuckley1 Před 4 lety +9

      @@GenerationFilms Wes needs to demonstrate his acting range. The person seems to have a good sense of humor, so maybe a RomCom would be a good next career move. He could carry a picture.

  • @donovan3476
    @donovan3476 Před 4 lety +51

    *Amos:* The friend we would all love to have, the enemy we would all fear. He is that guy.

    • @lloydkeith3061
      @lloydkeith3061 Před 3 lety +3

      Sounds like a US marine,... no greater friend, no worse enemy.

    • @bw040690
      @bw040690 Před rokem

      "I am that guy".

    • @shelldie8523
      @shelldie8523 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@lloydkeith3061the afghans, the Syrians, the Iraqis, etc disagree.

  • @melcca8178
    @melcca8178 Před 3 lety +10

    There are so many “YESS” moments with Amos. He does the things that need to be done in those stressful situations. And that’s so satisfying to watch. I hope someone gets what I mean :)

  • @Uniquemand
    @Uniquemand Před 3 lety +8

    I love Amos. He's an "anti-hero", and that's what makes the Expanse so great. The characters aren't standard types. They are people. This was a great breakdown, thanks!

  • @mikecarson8601
    @mikecarson8601 Před 4 lety +52

    I really loved his reaction to Anna in season 3. He seemed interested in her tending to the dead even though he didn’t understand it. The story arc for Amos continues to evolve and he becomes more human every season. Wes acted the hell out of season 4. Prepare for more top notch acting in season 5.

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  Před 4 lety +15

      That scene with him and Anna was a last minute cut from my script. Definitely a revealing moment!

  • @HalNordmann
    @HalNordmann Před 4 lety +174

    Simply put, Amos is That Guy.

    • @noahcederlund7660
      @noahcederlund7660 Před 4 lety +3

      Hal Nordmann great scene and he is definitely that guy

    • @SWells679
      @SWells679 Před 4 lety +3

      IDK. He seems kinda like a trigger happy whack-job.

    • @Vasharan
      @Vasharan Před 4 lety +1

      Like Zaphod!

    • @ThatOneGuy-iv9sn
      @ThatOneGuy-iv9sn Před 4 lety +2

      I’m that guy

    • @lazaruslong697
      @lazaruslong697 Před 3 lety +2

      @@SWells679 Did you even watch the video? Or the show for that matter? :D

  • @rinehardt6837
    @rinehardt6837 Před 3 lety +10

    Amos had one of the best lines I've ever heard in a show. When he says to prax look I'm all for killing who needs killing but it ain't going to make you feel better. It was so profound in the way that Amos knows he's killed people many times before and it never took away the pain of the hurt. Excellent character excellently acted

  • @pramienjager2103
    @pramienjager2103 Před 3 lety +12

    I honestly cannot believe how well written Amos is. I feel as though only someone who suffered in that way could really understand and write a person realistically.

  • @lonestoner8297
    @lonestoner8297 Před 4 lety +94

    I am a bad guy... But that does not mean, I'm a BAD guy.

  • @undergrounddojokeyboardcag701

    There's one really good character trait that this video did not mention.
    He is really, super attracted to Chrisjen Avasarala. Its a small detail, but it says a lot about how much the writers/James, considered this man's psychology.

    • @TheNameCannotBeFound
      @TheNameCannotBeFound Před měsícem

      I don’t blame him! She’s got that charisma and queen attitude. Damn respectable!

  • @ZeroMod
    @ZeroMod Před 3 lety +5

    "I'm gonna want that back"
    Amos is a force of nature !
    The scene with Dr Strickland was a standout character defining moment,

  • @jedijc5411
    @jedijc5411 Před 4 lety +68

    Walking Dead: If Daryl Dies.. We Riot!
    The Expanse: If Amos Dies...................... WE "ALL" Become........ That Guy!

  • @nicolaiveliki1409
    @nicolaiveliki1409 Před 4 lety +23

    Amos and Miller are my favorite characters in The Expanse

  • @ziv_tendoora
    @ziv_tendoora Před rokem +5

    With seasons 5 and 6 completed this deserves an update. Especially his interaction with Peaches.

  • @_non_zero_sum_game8958
    @_non_zero_sum_game8958 Před 3 lety +12

    there's a line in The Churn episode where mathew says "when you got old enough, the johns didn't want you," which alludes to amos being a victem of child sexual abuse. it goes a long way to getting the audience to understand the damage that has been afflicted on him. it helps you understand, why he has that self defense mechanism of not trusting others also. Anway wonderful vid!

  • @yodaslovetoy
    @yodaslovetoy Před 4 lety +52

    "Did I miss it" - Amos

  • @gregkun1
    @gregkun1 Před 4 lety +15

    I agree it's hard to play a chaotic neutral character and pull it off so well. Where judging people by their actions towards one's self, rather than letting outside situations and forced moral hesitations to get in the way of what is most important to one's self. To be so lucky have such a good friend like that.

    • @russellmarra8520
      @russellmarra8520 Před 2 lety

      Chaotic neutral. absolutely. I hadn't thought of that. Perfect.

    • @BrBill
      @BrBill Před 2 lety +1

      @@russellmarra8520 And the character arc is CN --> Chaotic Good

  • @martinxy1291
    @martinxy1291 Před 3 lety +12

    “Alex cares about Mars. Naomi cares about the belt. Holden cares about coffee.”
    Earth: Bruh

  • @kyliebrowne5111
    @kyliebrowne5111 Před 4 lety +7

    Haven't loved a character so much in a hot minute... Amos is definitely '' THAT GUY .''

  • @spacecowboy1438
    @spacecowboy1438 Před 4 lety +18

    Amos is definitely the most real character I've seen in televised fiction.
    I think the character really resonates with the sheepdog personalities.

    • @johnw9141
      @johnw9141 Před 4 lety +2

      Most people won't get the sheepdog quote but it is fitting with a slight difference where he seems to look for the fight rather than as a reaction but his past seems to have shaped it.

  • @WoodHughes
    @WoodHughes Před 4 lety +40

    This is one of the best character analysis I’ve ever seen. Well done!

  • @LadyNikitaShark
    @LadyNikitaShark Před 4 lety +5

    I relate to Amos in the sense that I was diagnose at young age with a mental disorder that makes me act a lot like Amos. Having someone else care for us, even with little things, when so much bad things and bad people are around you, is replayed with extreme loyalty. Doing bad/dangerous things that the normal you would do, a part of your mind says no, another part says yes, you know you shouldt but you do it anyways with out remorse. You do what most be done, even if what must be done is only in your mind.

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  Před 4 lety +3

      Thank you for your insight and sharing your connection to the character!

  • @h3llo0cto
    @h3llo0cto Před rokem +3

    I'm so glad you did this video. Not only is the character portrayed with such depth and subtlety, but the actor Wes Chatham was so perfectly cast, written, and directed. The writers give his character a lot of depth, but he really does a lot of work with what they've given him. He is an incredibly talented actor and I really can't get over missing him. Absolutely, without question or qualm, my favorite character on the show. Also, while reading the books, all I can picture is Amos with his face, voice, and body language. Favs, favs, favs, favs!!!

  • @jugglerjim01
    @jugglerjim01 Před 4 lety +21

    He's my favourite character from the books, portrayed near perfectly in the TV series by Wes Chatham 😎

  • @commanderkruge
    @commanderkruge Před 4 lety +33

    I didn't notice the debth of Amos at first and it might even be something the makers wanted. For me the BIG "Aha!"-Moment was, when he first prevented the guy to kill the kidnapper of his daughter with the explanation "Don't do that, it will take you to a place you'll never be able to get back from." And when the guy was gone he's like "*I* however am in this place anyways, so...".
    That was the moment where I really got that Amos is in a dark place but has a strong sense of morality and does a lot to prevent others to go through the kind of shit he went through himself.

    • @dan1273
      @dan1273 Před 4 lety +3

      Right? That was such a great moment in the series. made me want to read the books. "I AM that guy."

    • @d0rp
      @d0rp Před 4 lety +2

      The show is getting to the point in the story in the books that we really learned a lot about Amos and his back-story, so we'll probably see a lot more of that in the show as well.

    • @JoshuaKoslakiewicz
      @JoshuaKoslakiewicz Před 3 lety +1

      @@d0rp With how theyve incorporated the novellas in to the show I would guess well see a lot of stuff from "The Churn" in the next season

  • @melsilva9158
    @melsilva9158 Před 3 lety +2

    I haven't watched an episode of the Expanse since last December and seeing this video brought back a flood of emotions and demonstrates why this is one of if not the best series I've ever watched. Well done video: Articulate, on point without meandering down a bunch of dead-end alleyways. Well done sir.

  • @gateauxq4604
    @gateauxq4604 Před 3 lety +6

    Small point that was missed-Baltimore didn’t have any kind of sea walls installed so the city slowly flooded as global warming took its course. Maybe a bit further inland there are some nicer places but theres a reason why the city is so full of undocumented people (including Amos)-its mostly for cops’ target practice and the criminals are generally left to rule the town. Its is a try post-apocalyptic hellscape.
    I know it’ never happen but Wes should get at least a Golden Globe. He’s beyond perfect in the role.

  • @garymcleod6260
    @garymcleod6260 Před 4 lety +106

    I still just can't get over the fact that Amos's real name is Timothy.

    • @dstarling61
      @dstarling61 Před 4 lety +20

      It gets better than that, he sometimes goes by "Timmy".

    • @davenunyabusiness4893
      @davenunyabusiness4893 Před 3 lety +1

      @@dstarling61 Tiamat's Wrath is one of the best books of the series.

    • @SideTracked1
      @SideTracked1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@davenunyabusiness4893 Agreed, can't wait for book 9.

    • @Lala-rz2ft
      @Lala-rz2ft Před 3 lety +2

      You should read the books.
      He is a lot more complex and his early life is just really fucked up.
      He is damaged but not broken and he does have a code but he knows his personal code does not always mean he will do the “right” thing like Holden’s personal code will. He will protect his tribe any way he can and anyone outside his tribe can be damned to hell.
      He does not harm children and has empathy for prostitutes because of his own childhood.
      He also cares for Peaches in a platonic way.

    • @russellmarra8520
      @russellmarra8520 Před 2 lety

      @@Lala-rz2ft "Don't get me wrong; I'd do her if she'd let me..."

  • @carsoncasmirri3874
    @carsoncasmirri3874 Před 4 lety +79

    Amos is Chewbacca if Chewbacca had been raised by Trandoshans

    • @Karou812
      @Karou812 Před 4 lety +8

      Amos is Chewbacca if Chewbacca could say more than "WRRRRRRRRRR"

    • @Outworlder
      @Outworlder Před 4 lety +4

      @@Karou812 Your own fault for not speaking his language. Chewie has plenty to say.

    • @waraidako
      @waraidako Před 4 lety +1

      @@Outworlder So people claim, but I haven't seen any evidence that they're not just projecting. It's a full on Lassie situation.

    • @Outworlder
      @Outworlder Před 4 lety +4

      @@waraidako Doesn't that go for any foreign language then? "I've seen no evidence, so they can't speak". Chewie clearly speaks - and understands when spoken to. Also, Chewie is a starship mechanic and can repair droids. How do you do that without language?

    • @Mach1Greeble
      @Mach1Greeble Před 4 lety +5

      @@Outworlder and a war hero of three wars.

  • @SarahPriceMoore
    @SarahPriceMoore Před 3 lety

    I’ve watched this video probably four or five times. I keep coming back to it. Amos is amazing and this video really helps me put words to why I love this character as much as I do. Thank you and please keep up the amazing content on this channel. Much love. 💕

  • @aetherfukz
    @aetherfukz Před 3 lety +1

    Found this vid after binging the 5 expanse seasons and looking for essays. Great vid, subscribed! Amos really is the most complex bruiser character I've ever seen.

  • @nigelyorkshiremanwadeley6263

    Mate, that has to be one of the best character analyses I've ever seen. Well done Ben for bringing a ton more understanding to a brilliant and brilliantly portrayed character.

  • @ryanarmstrong3113
    @ryanarmstrong3113 Před 4 lety +12

    The actor who plays Amos really needs to watch this, absolutely in depth and amazing. I bet he would beam with pride.

  • @doonhkahn
    @doonhkahn Před 3 lety +2

    I feel your analysis is on point. Amos has been my favorite character from watching the first episode. The Expanse is very well written, but all of the actors' portrayals of their respective characters is spot on. This makes it, imho, the pinnacle of excellent sci-fi.

  • @sunhawk1751
    @sunhawk1751 Před 4 lety +1

    This was the first video on this channel I watched--and I clicked away because the intro seemed meandering and self-indulgent. But since I love Drummer so much, I later watched your video on her. It was intelligent and moving. So I watched this one again, all the way through. Again, really intelligent and moving. I actually got a tear toward the end. Respect. Subscribed. I'm about to go through your back-library.

  • @capybarasoncomputers
    @capybarasoncomputers Před 4 lety +58

    More with these expanse episodes, please talk about the ring gates effect on humanity.... Maybe our humanity if we were to find them in real life.

    • @ivanfreely6366
      @ivanfreely6366 Před 4 lety +4

      The impact on humanity would run along similar lines to the nations / players of the Expanse.

    • @d0rp
      @d0rp Před 4 lety

      The books do a pretty good job of exploring that, so I think it would be hard to do a video on that with out being spoiler-y for the show.

  • @khartog01
    @khartog01 Před 4 lety +10

    Amos is that dnd character with low charisma but always succeeds his persuasion checks.

  • @Fotozaic
    @Fotozaic Před 4 lety +1

    Love how honest he is, and completely up front about what he's gonna do, to the point of giving away any advantage.

  • @jameskennedy1034
    @jameskennedy1034 Před 4 lety +2

    This is by far one of the greatest shows I have ever watched. So much character development and growth it's mind-boggling the show is beautifully done

  • @RoninX33
    @RoninX33 Před 4 lety +239

    Was not Chewy an engineer/mechanic and pilot. Don't think Chewy was a mindless animal.

    • @justaguy2770
      @justaguy2770 Před 4 lety +31

      Exactly the point I was gonna make. He clung to Hang because of a life debt not because he was a animal who cannot make choices.

    • @CCISolitude
      @CCISolitude Před 4 lety +27

      This. I had to come way too far down for this comment. Calling Chewie "just an animal" massively underplays the character and does him a disservice.

    • @Mach1Greeble
      @Mach1Greeble Před 4 lety +10

      @@CCISolitude JUSTICE FOR CHEWIE!

    • @leomartinez9764
      @leomartinez9764 Před 4 lety +1

      Only a savaged a idiot or a animal would choose to be in a life dept. Chewie to me was just a annoying cling on attached to Han.

    • @delraydad7516
      @delraydad7516 Před 4 lety +7

      Agree with this so much and the replies. Especially disappointed I have to scroll so far to see this issue. No way was Chewy a mindless animal.
      Since the OP has posted comments in this thread but ignored the comment on this subject, I'm almost sure he made that reference to start a debate. No way he's this knowledgeable about Sci-Fi and thinks Chewy is a mindless animal.

  • @rodrigobogado8756
    @rodrigobogado8756 Před 4 lety +58

    2:59 "Chewbacca is an animal"
    *Angry wookie noises

    • @axlm.808
      @axlm.808 Před 4 lety +3

      I think the one and only guy who said that in front of a wookie was ripped in half just after

    • @TheSp0kesman
      @TheSp0kesman Před 4 lety +9

      Chewy is highly intelligent, capable of fixing complicated machines. He just doesn’t have vocal cords capable of speaking Basic.

    • @t3ripley722
      @t3ripley722 Před 4 lety +6

      Yeah this made me question the validity of everything said after.

    • @adaeptzulander2928
      @adaeptzulander2928 Před 4 lety +4

      Only the Zoomers think Chewie is an animal instead of a sapient person. They judge the character by that last pissant movie trilogy.

    • @Outworlder
      @Outworlder Před 4 lety +1

      @@adaeptzulander2928 The Empire too. They reclassified wookies as animals so they could still use them as slaves.

  • @PhilthyWan
    @PhilthyWan Před 3 měsíci

    This came up on my feed today. Amos was always my favorite character in this epic space drama. This expose is brilliant. Thank you. It's been years since I've watched The Expanse so I'm going to strap in and binge.

  • @DarthTigger
    @DarthTigger Před 4 lety +4

    Amos is by far my favorite character and Wes plays him perfectly.

  • @hellishgrin4604
    @hellishgrin4604 Před 4 lety +5

    By far my favorite character, but I also like the idea that he's just this reserved, stoic jack sparrow. Just sort of gets to the right point in his own way with his own twists and is seemingly unpredictable, whilst appearing to have the most thought out actions.

  • @jordanbarkow4065
    @jordanbarkow4065 Před 4 lety +3

    Well done. This was a beautifully crafted analysis of Amos. I wondered if you were going to skip an opportunity to make a comment about coffee and Holden but you did not disappoint...

  • @johnecoapollo7
    @johnecoapollo7 Před rokem +1

    I am rewatching the show and I love how Amos knows how to handle and support all of the crew. He says exactly what each character needs to hear at their worst.

  • @mikec1341
    @mikec1341 Před rokem +1

    I binge watched the Expanse this week and your comments on Amos were perfect. I kept expecting him to turn out like "Jane" on "Firefly," but this character was so much deeper. I thought I would dislike him but in the end he was the heart of the show.

  • @andyf4292
    @andyf4292 Před 4 lety +66

    amos hasnt got a conscience,,, he sees others have one, so he outsourced it

    • @EntropyEngine
      @EntropyEngine Před 4 lety +3

      Read the books if you haven't, you are right.

    • @Phoenix-214
      @Phoenix-214 Před 4 lety +20

      I'd say he has a conscience, it's just so badly mangled by his life experiences that he can't rely on it anymore. If he had absolutely no conscience whatsoever, he'd have ended up like Cortázar instead.

    • @danp6897
      @danp6897 Před 4 lety +3

      @@Phoenix-214, bingo

    • @tinncan
      @tinncan Před 4 lety

      I would love to say he is learning humanity from them but I didn't read the books so I can only be disappointed...

    • @VayaKahvi
      @VayaKahvi Před 4 lety +4

      The way I see it, if you look at the inside of Amos' head like this is Inside Out, the spot on the console where the moral compass should be is empty and has a post-it note taped in that reads "NEVER HURT KIDS"

  • @jimalbi
    @jimalbi Před rokem +2

    The irony is that Wes Chatam is such a joyfull, enthousiastic, friendly and funny guy.

  • @eggsang5619
    @eggsang5619 Před 3 lety +2

    Amazingly analysis. You captured so many details and articulated them so well. I missed Amos's shift of loyalty from Naomi to Holden.

  • @jld593
    @jld593 Před 3 lety

    Super commentary! Excellent insight and I enjoy what Ben picks up on that I missed. Enlightening and really good writing and wordplay.

  • @MariachiTS
    @MariachiTS Před 4 lety +6

    You dissect the characters really well nice

  • @matthewwilliams5253
    @matthewwilliams5253 Před 4 lety +5

    Great video, thanks you. Amos is my favourite character in the Expanse series, well done 😁👍👍👍🇦🇺

  • @jaffarebellion292
    @jaffarebellion292 Před 4 lety +2

    If I could compare Amos to anyone, it would be Jack from Mass Effect. Both are genuinely good people, broken during childhood, willing to step further over the line than others, approach death and sex casually, and try time and again to convince the world they're monsters to be feared, but when someone finally treats them with decency, they cling to that person as a guide.

  • @mizziztee1852
    @mizziztee1852 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for putting all the feels we all have for Amos into words, great analysis! Yes he is my favorite character on The Expanse.

  • @JonMcMenamin777
    @JonMcMenamin777 Před 4 lety +3

    Amos is superb. The Churn is essential reading.
    And Wes Chatham plays him very well.
    You did an excellent breakdown of his character and motivations.

  • @naruto4892
    @naruto4892 Před 4 lety +17

    Keep going with The Expanse content.

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  Před 4 lety +6

      OK 👌

    • @19Crusader91
      @19Crusader91 Před 4 lety +1

      @@GenerationFilms Keep it down for a day or two pls. Im planning to binge to whole season this weekend.

    • @shadowuaw-0001
      @shadowuaw-0001 Před 4 lety

      @@19Crusader91 good choice

  • @spencerleek
    @spencerleek Před 3 lety +1

    Really well done! Thanks for the excellent content.

  • @mystaniceguy
    @mystaniceguy Před 3 lety

    Wow this was a very in depth analysis on a on of my favorite all time sci fi characters. Well done.

  • @crookedwookie8782
    @crookedwookie8782 Před 2 lety +3

    Chewbacca is an ANIMAL?? He may be covered in hair, but he’s SENTIENT. He has complex language, can fly and repair an insanely complex starship. What are you even talking about?

  • @grimalldi4526
    @grimalldi4526 Před 4 lety +6

    That was a masterful breakdown

  • @devastatingd3306
    @devastatingd3306 Před 9 měsíci

    One of the best analysis of one of my favorite characters! Excellent work.

  • @ShotofDespresso
    @ShotofDespresso Před rokem +2

    14:47 I never realised that Amos is referring to himself as "the bad" in the world until you pointed it out. That's actually a really interesting point that I completely overlooked when watching The Expanse. Amos is my second favorite character in the show, after Alex.

    • @shelldie8523
      @shelldie8523 Před 8 měsíci

      The sexual abuser and cowboy impersonator is the best character? Why?

    • @ShotofDespresso
      @ShotofDespresso Před 8 měsíci

      @@shelldie8523 I said that Alex is my favorite character, not that I like the actor who portrays him. Two very different things
      Additionally, the comment you replied to is over a year old, and in that time I have rewatched the show and formed new opinions.

  • @podunk9798
    @podunk9798 Před 3 lety +4

    Holden: "At least I can say I bested you in a fight"
    Amos: "You can SAY whatever you want."

  • @pknuttarlott4934
    @pknuttarlott4934 Před 3 lety +3

    Amos is the best character on the Expanse by far. I love his savagery.

  • @justinagans9532
    @justinagans9532 Před 3 lety

    one of the best character analyses I have ever heard, fantastic job.

  • @MrAustinMWilliams
    @MrAustinMWilliams Před 3 lety

    this video was very well done. I'm a big fan of this character and i think you did it justice