the problem with the carriers being US advantage argument, is US need to project power 8k miles from homeland, but for PLA they don’t need to do that (not beyond second island chain anyway), so they can just fight with rocket force, surface combatants and tactical Air Force. PLA carrier program is not the capability being prepared for next war with US, but the one after that
President Marcos Jr of the Philippines solved that problem for the US. Because of China's relentless bullying of Filipino fishermen and Philippine Naval and Coast Guard vessels exacerbated by China's Wolf Diplomacy, Marcos Jr pivoted the Philippines away from China and moved back closer to the US, granting the latter access to more bases in the Philippines. Now, the US can pre-position troops, planes, ships, supplies, missiles, drones and all sorts of weapons in the Philippines. The proximity of the Philippines to Taiwan actually makes it possible for US planes, ships and troops to be protected by Anti-air missiles positioned in the islands of the Philippines facing Taiwan and China. For example, US ships can sail and American aircraft fly close to the Philippine coastlines protected by air defense systems positioned on land. And planes and ships of China trying to invade taiwan can be hit using missiles and drones coming from Philippines. All the artificial islands illegally built and militarised by China are now within the range of missiles, drones and even aircraft launched from the Philippines. American aircraft and planes can be quickly and adequately resuppplied, maintained and repaired in the Philippines. Wounded Americans can be brought to the Philippines as well. The Philippines is composed of 7000+ islands. It is equivalent to hundreds of massive unsinkable aircraft carriers and thousands of supply and troop transport ships. And because of the proximity of the Philippines to Taiwan and China, American response to any Chinese invasion can now be fast, massive and devastating. Then, there's the more than 300k strong combined personnel of the Philippine armed forces, coast guard and other security forces that can help the US in a lot of ways. Marcos Jr has practically erased China's strategic advantage over the US. Xi Jin Ping made a strategic mistake when he alienated Marxos Jr. China lost a very important potential friend while the US regained one. Now, all China can hope for is that the Philippines doesn't allow the Americans to use any part of the Philippines directly to aid Taiwan in case China finally acts to invade Taiwan by force.
Marcos Junior has to comply with u.s., as he has billions of USD stuck in u.s. judicial process, and the whole region are aware of this, so for Marcos is personal.
@@andrewlim7751 No. That's just the propaganda of China and its minions in the Philippines. Every time somebody like you are challenged to provide a list of properties owned by the Marcoses, they disappear. Now, let's see if you are somehow different. Provide us a list of those properties in the US which the Marcos Family still owns. I'll be waiting.
Yeah, there's this group of islands called the Philippines? Right next door. Then there's Japan's Okinawa...right next door. Your "8000 miles" is so pre-1941, bruh.
india know usa is a threat as china so india and china just got border clashes i think seeing containment of china india know it will happen to india in future.
It's a corruption that is intractable because it is too profitable for the political leadership to want to do anything about it except make it more profitable.
The US does fairly well on most corruption indexes. What you're describing as "corruption" is actually "a value-added market" - things do tend to cost more in the US than, say, the Congo. Pretty sure I know where you'd rather live though haha.
also US naval and airmen are a bit better trained than their Chinese counterparts. also Chinese economy is a bit more vulnerable to sanctons than the Russian one.
looking how china buys a lot of things from russia(energy wise) and these relations have tightened a lot with china and iran and other key places, so I wouldnt count china getting behind; afterall iran is some sort of ally to them and they can trade tips how to bypass sanctions. rest china has resources to invest in domestic manufacturing to replace. (in domestic view; they still dont care about their civilians by mismanagement, simple ignorance... things are more complex in international level/clashes of countries)
@@effexon well the Chinese can easilly get thru the sanctions thru Russia but when your ports are being blockaded and your shipping being sunk and seized , well your economy will really go down the toilet. The best weapon the west has vs. China is the economy.
who cares if US don't trade with China they have 1.4 billion people their domestic consumption alone will keep there economy intact. The question you should ask is what will happen to US economy if China decided not to with US lol...all US companies largest market is China now think hard what happens if china did decide not to trade with US lol..
It doesn't matter how many soldiers and weapons China has now. If China is forced into a wartime economy, it can quickly mobilize 700 million people, exceed the total industrial production capacity of G7 countries, and have strong organizational capabilities of the Chinese government. Considering the way the US government thinks, this is the language they can understand.
True. China have advantage of shipbuilding industry. But the moment the west particularly australia imposes economic sanction especially on iron, that shipbuilding industry would grind to a halt. We know that Australia after on the receiving end of chinese economic attacks is too in sync with American policy towards china.
Very smart and informative. I'd question a little of the diction and some of the assumptions, but also must admit to having heard only helf before getting on a long flight. When a side has a lot of a certain capability, that's not more capabilities; I've called that mass or volume in a certain capability. So I wouldn't say China has a lot of naval capabilities, for example, but mass. And while I'm all for the US investment in more mass (especially for the needs of near-allies like Ukraine), I think we also have to be careful about assumptions on Chinese abilities to continue production afte lr initiating conflict. Ship-building is geographically limited and conspicuous. If the US were at least to establish air superiority (even if only for a few weeks), I can't imagine any ship-building facility functioning after that. We make a lot od US industrial might in the 1940s but let's remember it was under minimal threat. German capacity was impressive but vulnerable and the air war diminished that. In a war over Taiwan, sure we'll have patrols and subs in the Atlantic, but I doubt China will spare many warships to attack Atlantic coast shipbuilders, especially given their risks. We also should be careful about using Ukraine as much of an example (that's where I live). Artillery shells are really only critical because no side has air superiority. The US is built to gain air superiority as is most of NATO. When air defenses on our side were diminished or pull back from Avdiivka, that's when the Russians could get close with the 1000kg bombs. Thats a lot more punch than a 40kg 152mm howitzer shell. Artillery is good to get the opposite side's heads down, but you need precision to weaken a line and punch to make a hole. If China can mount enough air denial, that'll be a problem, but it's not like the US and its allies aren't working on maintaining that.
Air dominance over China? You think China is in the Middle East? Are you joking? Do you think fancy stealth technology will work against a country that has its own space station, significant naval and aerial coverage over the first and second island chains, and a formidable missile force? Let the US fly planes over lands? The US will quickly realize perhaps New York is not that far from Beijing. The point is, it won't happen. It would be an all-out war. It would also be wrong to think they only have mass. The US would be making the same mistake it made with underestimating the Russian army but on a larger scale. The only result you'll get is an army that now has real-world experience and enough economic leverage to shut down the world's economy. I believe China wants to get so big and modern that the US won't dare interfere in its affairs. Sooner or later, they'll get there. China is playing the long game; they don't have a change in leadership to shake that vision.
The US won't dare! Nobody attacks a Nuclear power like that! China is not Iraq or Afghanistan. This is a country that has invested decades in improving its armed forces. Just like the Abrams in Ukraine, when those planes are shot down, it would be like seeing a god bleed. Once they acquire the technology, any F-22 or F-35 flying within that region will be easily detected. Also, let's not forget they possess fifth-generation fighters, outnumbering the US with over 200 units and building more variants. Their naval fleet is extensive and capable of providing robust air defense long before those jets approach mainland China. if Japan, the Philippines, or South Korea become staging grounds, they'll become targets as well. This is China's backyard, and the US leadership, concerns about China's escalating military prowess shows they are not a force you can bomb at will. ...time favors China, every year China continues its military builds up, and capabilities, the odds tilt increasingly in Beijing's favor, especially in its own neighborhood. With potential support from Russia, that trajectory only accelerates further. You should check the war games done in the US in a war with China over Taiwan...China wins all the time. There is quality in numbers, China has numbers, well-educated numbers. ...and if and when the US fails to defeat China, it only diminishes its own hegemony, strengthening China in the process. China's major misstep to me might lie in its 9-dash line ambitions. Collaborating with neighbors both militarily and economically could keep the US at bay and guarantee safer growth for the region and China.
@@Blake_87 Blake, my man, you've dipped deep into the Beijing Bot punch bowl. I cannot speak with similar confidence as to knowing what the PLA isn't as do with what it can do. Sudanese soldiers are more battle-tested than the PLA. My point was if/when China invades another one of its neighbours, all its now-impressive ship-building facilities will be extremely vulnerable because they'll be within range of Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Philippine, Autralian, British... and American forces. (Sheesh there are so many of China's neighbours who are worried about Chinese bullying, aren't there? It's like an endless list of who's who in the Pacific rim. Crazy. It's a good thing for China they have stand-up allies like North Korea and Russia; but what a crew of miscreants, hey?) If the US is involved in the fight to defend the innocent people of Taiwan, they're going to hit military targets inside China. If China retaliates with nuclear force they've already lost the war.
@@thomasjgallagher924 Bot? lol I am not American nor Chinese so I get to see things differently. I believe a world with multiple economic and military giants will benefit all of us and China should be allowed to grow and attain the dominance it wants just like the US did in North and South America in the 19's. They've done more good for the planet (cheap quality goods and green tech, all that without tumbling governments and funding terror) in a few decades than the US has with endless wars since WW2. ...back to the topic The PLA hasn't gone to war in a long time, yes!, the same thing applies to all parties involved including the US and when they do, there will be casualties on all sides. Largely because no country has had to attack or defend in an amphibious operation on this scale on an Island this big since the last World War. Besides none of the mentioned neighbors recognize Taiwan. In a scenario like Ukraine, where Turkey could have attacked Russian warships in the Black Sea but avoided direct confrontation by supplying weapons to Ukraine for them to use, similar tactics can be expected. Japan or South Korea directly attacking China seems unlikely. Although the US may try to rally support, it's uncertain if Japan and South Korea would participate beyond providing weapons. China, being the largest trading partner of neighboring countries, acts in its own interests. Attacking Taiwan wouldn't provoke Japan, the Philippines, or South Korea due to the lack of military agreements like NATO. Again drawing reference from the war in Ukraine did you notice NATO and the US are the only countries supporting Ukraine with Funds and Weapons, of course, Canada. With China, I believe it will be the same or worse. most countries would rather be neutral and trade with both countries involved. China's focus on missile development makes attacking its shipyards challenging and costly. A country that has become the manufacturing hub of the world will have no problem quickly repairing a destroyed shipyard....Don't forget North Korea, they could destabilize any coalition against China by attacking South Korea. ...while we are all speculating, any conflict involving Taiwan and China would have complex and far-reaching consequences and wouldn't be as straightforward as ramming F22s into Chinese airspace. (that was my bone of contention)
How does the US pick war with China? US wants to fight naval war only in SCS? What does the US use to fight a naval war in SCS, using aircraft carrier with 7000 sailors and 50 jest onboard the ship? China has plans for different wasr with the US on land, in SCS or over Taiwan territory?China has all resource ready for different war operations. China has one advantage that the US does not have, i.e. China is fighting on its door step whereas the US is fighting a war half way round the war, and the US fighting a war with China has no real aim or purpose. or a winning strategy. Out of 10 war games, the US never win one with China. China has hundreds of thousands of cheap and quality drones to fight the US slow moving ships. After two days of constant attack by China drones , the US aircraft carries will have consumed all its defense missiles each costing a million USD. The US supply ships will be sunk by the PLA before they can help the aircraft carrier which will be sunk by the PLA later. The US cannot afford to lose 7000 sailors over a war with China without benefit to the money-hungry politicians. Hence, now and later, the US will not enter a war with China. So far the US is only showing off its naval ships. The US will never fight a war with China on land. This will start a WW3 with nuclear weapons.
From the Ukraine and Gaza wars we can observe that there is a big paradigm shift in warfare. Drones , even cheap drones can neutralize expensive missile defence systems. The new paradigm is "Drones and Missiles will rule the battlefield".
I've heard that being a soldier in China is seen as something only for the lower class and not a good career choice. The US military has a large base of career non-coms who are highly important in all things, and I don't think China is nearly as up to speed in that regard.
True about the PLA (and there is also the issue of parents not being enthusiastic about their only child being at risk), but the US isn’t hitting its recruiting and retention goals either. Hopefully DOD can turn around a lot of the recent nonsense and go back to foxing on bringing in and retaining warfighters.
@statmonster The biggest problem America faces is dealing with our freakout culture. There's over 2 million people in the U.S military, and we're what? A few thousand short of where we were a couple years ago? And people act as if we lost ww3 before it even started.
Though it maybe true, however with 1.3 billion people. There are plenty of people in the lower class. Also, the one child policy wasn't strictly enforced in the countryside. They gave birth at home. So, a pregnant woman just needs to lay low for like 4 months. It's fairly easy to do if you're in a village that's mainly just family and friends. My aunt had 5 kids. It was also region specific, my uncle had 3. But with my last cousin they had to pay a fine since they went over the limit. People are people anywhere. They're going to do what they want despite there being a law against it.
I’m wondering how think tanks like CSIS get their information? Do they have access to non-public data? And if so, where do they get it from? Is it their own research or from their governments?
about artillery shells.... looks 800-1000$ shell which is pretty heavy and needs logistics, makes sense to add relatively cheap additions like chips(excalibur shell style) or wings to make it way more efficient than simply dumb shell, especially if there are bottlenecks in its production in mass scale.
Building small numbers of expensive "exquisite systems" (wunderwaffe) is not going to be an advantage for the US beyond the opening salvo. When the existing stockpile gets used up in the span or weeks or months, the advantage dissipates. US procurement is obsessed with having high-spec "military grade" everything, but the war in Ukraine has shown that large numbers of cheap munitions built with commercial grade components (especially electronics, where commercial parts can sometimes be decades ahead of military-grade parts) can vastly outweigh the impact of small numbers of high-end systems. Even high-end systems such as missiles and fighter jets benefit from modification or redesign using commercial components, when mass production for war becomes required. In this respect China has a massive advantage over the US.
Exactly. What is the difference between high-end and not-so-high-end? Not that much in my opinion. A 1980s bullet can do as much damage as a 2024 bullet. There is one thing about military hardware, most are meant to be used only once, so as long as it does the job reasonably well, the quality doesn't really matter that much.
This mentality is silly. The US doesn't have "exquisite systems". We have very capable weapon systems meant to engage multiple forces at once, but they are not "wonder weapons" and assessing them as such is your first problem. If that were the case we wouldn't have been telling Ukraine to use the weapons we send them in combined arms tactics. Ukraine ignoring that has led to losses (and even then we have footage of US weapons systems on their own doing more damage than their "peers", see HIMARS). Second, China's advantage in manufacturing is meaningless if they can't transport it where they need to. That's where the US Navy comes in, as we can knock their Navy out to the point a lot of their systems are not capable of operating anymore. That's the advantage we have, as the US Navy can dock from the Phillipines to Japan, and China can't fully hit those without risking its more expensive naval assets that they can't just mass produce. For comparison, US Submarines have popped up in Chinese waters undetected to make a point on multiple occasions. Third, the necessity of these components is why they are generally built stateside. Remember, we grounded our entire F-35 fleet when we found Chinese components in it. We don't rely on our enemies for our war machine, that would be silly.
@@dimelo3027 The difference between high-end and not-so-high-end is the HIMARS and the Patriot compared with the Grad and the S-400. HIMARS annihilated Russian logistics with only one loss in the entire war so far. Patriot intercepted "unstoppable" Russian hypersonics on multiple occasions with no losses since their delivery. The same cannot be said for Russia's weapons. So the difference is whether your logistics lines are on fire or the enemy's. Remember, Russia's answer to HIMARS has been human waves to try and expend its ammo, and their answer to Patriot was that they ran out of Khinzal missiles.
"Exquisite systems" is a direct quotation from the interviewee in this video -- watch before commenting. As for things like HIMARS and GMLRS, what you don't see in the meme videos from Ukraine is the fact that EW is extremely effective at disrupting all of these systems. Within weeks to months the Russians are able to adapt and severely blunt their effectiveness, with inertial guidance being unable to produce satisfactory results. Meanwhile, they crank out more cheap, simple, old-fashioned artillery rounds than the combined capability of US and NATO, augmenting them with targeting via drones. For naval and air assets the US still definitely has a major advantage over China in terms of quality, and in sizable enough quantity to be a deterrent against invading Taiwan for now, but the trends looking forward 10-20 years are concerning. @@dfmrcv862
@@KramnikDaniel "blunt their effectiveness". I wouldn't say moving the logistics lines so far back Russian troops in the front were starved for ammo for months a "blunting". "Adapting", sure, but it made them far less combat effective. In fact, you have no sources for EW working on HIMARS or drones to my knowledge given how common they are in use still. And for cranking out "cheap, simple, old-fashioned artillery" it hasn't done them any good as they have failed at counter-battery operations against HIMARS on all but one occasion. This was even with the US halting aid for half a year. I have no idea what research you have done, but maybe look up better sources.
Pentagon war games have been predicting US defeat in Taiwan for years at this point. In 2018, the Pentagon ran 18 war games of a war over Taiwan with the most realistic conditions and lost all 18 of them to China. Check it out online!
Call BS, armchair general Commisar Troll. No attached site. Do you know how long are the mudflats on the Taiwan coast nearest the mainland? How much longer an eastern assault would take?
You are totally wrong the war games simulations showed China won a few quick ones but over longer term US won more. Where did you get your information? I'm curious
There is 1 ship yard in China that is making more every year than all of the USA ship yards just 1 do some research you will see I’m correct it has been talked about in senate review meeting 🇬🇧🇺🇦👍🏼
China will very happy to hear about this from your opinion, China are happy that they know everything about US but US are not know about China. The problem are very serious. 😢
it donot make sence why china canot hit usa but usa can hit china i think donot forgot if usa hit china homeland china will hit usa with frist strike nuclear missle and am sure america see that and these just words that america will come to defend Taiwan time will tell .
China may be choosing to power their ships conventionally as to avoid a nuclear crises in the even of a conflict. This would be a responsible and honerable way to fight a war. But only time will tell
To help ensure that the US defends Taiwan against invasion by China, Taiwan must increase its military spending to at least the same percentage of GDP that the US spends. Otherwise Americans who oppose putting US soldiers in harms way to defend Taiwan could argue that Taiwan is free riding on the US, something along the lines of "The Taiwanese expect to play video games while Americans not only fight and die for them but also pick up the check for it." Moreover, from the 10,000 meter perspective, it seems INSANE that Taiwan's population is 50 times smaller than China's yet Taiwan spends much less of its GDP on defense than China does. Taiwan spends only about 2% of GDP on defense. Although China reports spending about the same, in reality China probably spends about 5-6% of its GDP on defense (as explained in the next paragraph). It seems wildly reckless and irresponsible for Taiwan to spend only 2% of GDP on defense while a very hostile nation 50 times larger in population spends 5-6% of GDP on defense or more accurately on offense. If and when the time comes when Taiwan needs the American military, Americans who oppose helping Taiwan could argue that Taiwan's lack of defense spending tells us that, in truth, most Taiwanese don't really care that much about their freedom: "Taiwanese were not willing to spend money to defend their freedom. Why should Americans fight, die and spend a fortune to defend Taiwan's freedom when Taiwan wasn't even willing to spend what the US spends percentage-wise much less what China spends?" I make these points because I want the US to defend Taiwan. It would be an absolute disaster if China took over Taiwan. So I want Taiwan to take the steps that will help ensure that the US prevents it. Again, the number one thing Taiwan should do is spend more on defense, at least as much as the US spends (currently ~3.7% of GDP). Regarding China's true military spending... China reports spending about the same % as Taiwan or even a bit lower at ~1.7%. However, many other sources estimate China's military spending as higher. For example, the US Dept of Defense in 2021 estimated China's true military spending as between 20% to 100% higher than the reported figure, i.e., somewhere between 2% and 3.4% . See chinapower.csis.org/military-spending/China. However, these higher estimates are themselves far too low because they wrongly assume that China's reported GDP is accurate. China's true GDP is somewhere between one-third and two-thirds of what the CCP says it is, as explained in the videos listed below. As such, China true military spending is likely around 5% to 6% of its GDP. To understand how China's true GDP could be so much lower than what the CCP reports, watch the first three videos below, starting with the first one. Additional videos about China's true GDP are listed further down below. czcams.com/video/A5A5Eu0ra3I/video.htmld czcams.com/video/TRawl73xWBQ/video.html&ab_channel=Lei%27sRealTalk czcams.com/video/QxtFYmluHDo/video.html&ab_channel=PGurus czcams.com/video/hGhP7U6ABK8/video.html&ab_channel=StoicFinance czcams.com/video/QxHMixhJPHA/video.html&ab_channel=EconomicsExplained czcams.com/video/3vZviUgzbbE/video.html&ab_channel=InfoFlow czcams.com/video/yWJxEFby4b4/video.html&ab_channel=BusinessBasic
Lets be honest. The reason the US was successful in WW2, was they waited 4 years, built up assets and profited from the allies's demise. The war was almost over in Europe. They also joined WW1 after waiting 4 years 😅😂
Uh, that's not correct. The war broke off in 1939 and we got in at the end of 1941. The US had a huge industrial base that was able to supply the soviets through lend lease.
@@claydredsbroadhead7763 Through land lease the US supplied the Soviets the equivalence of 180 billion dollars in todays money. 400,000 jeeps and trucks, 14,000 airplanes, 8,000 tractors, 13,000 tanks, 15 million pairs of army boots, 2.7 million tons of petroleum products, 4.5 million tons of food, The U.S. even transported an entire Ford Company tire factory, which made tires for military vehicles, to the Soviet Union.
Comments are prejudiced, obviously haven’t informed yourself with the numbers of casualties the US suffered. It’s an insult to the young Americans that died
The establishment around war planning is so linear, but it’s kind of embarrassing. There’s so many things mention of this video that would be considered lessons from Ukraine or Israel that were pointed to in relation to conflict with China. I guess one example would be the mentioning of the industrial base and how important pumping out artillery shells is I think that’s a specific take away and not take away for conflict as a whole. I don’t know how China intends to lab artillery shells 95 miles across the water.
China has a lot more missiles - with US warships and bases in its sights: Routinely hosts US bombers or a carrier strike group sailing in the South China Sea could face dozens, even hundreds, of ballistic missiles in salvos intended to overwhelm their defenses, shatter critical capabilities, and send US warships sinking into the depths. One senior defense official said it's changing America's appetite for war in the region, "creating a conventional deterrence capability that threatens our posture, our presence, and our activities in ways that would potentially cause decision-makers in Washington to consider the risks to be too high."
About US millitary having more combat experience I dont think you can equate fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan agst vastly smaller and less equipped opposition as comparable to China. And certainly the reason
One of the worst strategic plans we could possibly make is to begin joint ventures. This is what Europe does, and their militaries are laughable and serve as A buyer for the US military to get there. Anybody who’s in favor of joint ventures when it comes to military production have zero thought whatsoever.
I am not trying to be negative here. But opening statement with ww2 production. During ww2 amercans were tough. The homefront production was as so strong that many women takes up production job. Children gives away their small savings. Metals in cars etc were cut off just for metals needed for military used. Look at thr present state of US, with all the wokeness, women saying we dont need men, will it still be possible to channel the production like ww2 when people there are soo entitled. And again if USA and china goes to war, the value of dollar will surely plummet as it is fiat money.
well in the case of China , I think the PLA has taken over the CCP, The PLA has been 2nd most strongest faction in the Chinese Gov. The PLA has a lot of political clout in how the country of China is governed, in fact over the decades since the 70s, the PLA has become mainly financially independent from the Chinese gov. and is the largest mega corporation in China, owning lots of companies producing everything from weapons to smartphone to commercial ships to dollar store nick knacks. And the PLA leadership is known to be very hardline in its stance with the USA and Taiwan. and Xinping's hold on power is due to support from the PLA leadership. Ever since 1979 up until the rule of Xinping. the CCP has been at the drivers seat of China. Deng made sure that the PLA was cut down in terms of political influence after Chinese withdrawal from Vietnam in 79 which greatly embarrassed the PLA which Deng fired its hardline Maoist leadership and replaced them with technocrats who were supportive of Deng's economic reforms. Economy first at all cost was the Chinese policy. Since 2012 has the influence of the Chinese technocrats been broken and the CCP is focusing on power consolidation and nationalism.
Is this factoring in the fact that PLA has theater commands that are not linked. Also, they have Political Officers in the military throughout. Xi JinPing also had a major military and government officials purge for like the last 5 years or more.
The PLA Rocket Force is probably very worried about the recent exchange of airborne weapons between Iran and Israel. Israel, the US, the UK and Jordan effectively intercepted and destroyed some 350 drones, ballistic missiles and cruise missiles fired by Iran. Meanwhile, Iran was incapable to targeting and destroying only a few Israeli assets that took out Iranian radar systems. The US and its allies would perform equally well in a Taiwan conflict. This is quite significant as China has bet big on it missile capabilities.
I would hope so but suspect PRC air defense (and missile offense) would be better than Iran’s and I don’t get the impression Taiwan takes air defense nearly as seriously as Israel does. The US (Guam and maybe what we could deploy or float over there) Japan and ROK based are better than the ROC, but still nothing like the density of air defense Israel (plus its allies and friends) can offer over a small geographical area. Israel also benefited from the strikes coming in from long range and no sabotage or cyber attacks of their air defense network. I fear a Chinese first strike would be a lot more like Pearl Harbor than last weekend’s Iranian attack.
The host is really ignorant about China and Taiwan thinking that people in taiwan want independence. If that were the case Taiwan would have decoupled from China a long time ago. The fact is Taiwan's economy is more integrated with China than ever before. There are millions of Taiwanese living and working in China and vice versa. The latest election in Taiwan spoke for itself where the DPP lost its majority in the Taiwan parliament.
But the DDP still won the presidency. The Taiwanese want status quo. They have had de facto independence already, and they don’t want to declare it to avoid CCP’s aggression. They also don’t want to be united with China. They want China to leave them alone.
@@storage4539 The DPP won by only a slim margin, which showed the Taiwanese people don't want independence, which was the DPP policy all along. Taiwan can't have the cake and eat it too. Taiwan still holds millions of treasures and gold stolen from China. Not to mention the millions of Chinese soldiers forced to leave China. If Taiwan wants to keep the status quo, then they have to return all the stolen treasures and the millions of Chinese descendants that belong to China. That's like 25 million Chinese descendants who settled in Taiwan. The 1.4 billion Chinese people have the right to self determination and they want Taiwan to be part of China. The situation is the same as Hong Kong. Just because Hong Kong had 150 years of independence doesn't mean they could declare independence and annex Hong Kong from China. They also don’t want to be united with China. They want China to leave them alone." - If that's really the case, then they shouldn't do any trade with China. Taiwan has become prosperous by taking advantage of the special privilege given to Taiwan by China. Thousands of Taiwan companies take advantage of China's unlimited skilled labor and land to make Taiwan what it is today.
@@medeliworld So much to unpack. If you have followed Taiwan's elections, you must have known that elections are never about a single issue. The DDP's domestic performance hasn't been stellar, granted a ruling party is always under critical scrutiny. Supporting the DDP or the KMT only tells you so much on what the Taiwanese think of China. I assume you have followed polls in Taiwan. You shouldn't be surprised to learn that majority of people identifies themselves as Taiwanese instead of Chinese, and half of Taiwan's people want the status quo, and roughly less than 10% want unification. The KMT didn't steal anything. There were the internationally recognized government of China till 1970s. Also, you should be glad that the KMT helped to preserve the Chinese civilization form the destruction instigated by CCP's Red Guards during the Cultural Revolution. I encourage you read some history on their evil deeds, including the destruction of the Ming Dynasty tomb of the Wanli Emperor, lighting the emperor's and empress' bones on fire and denouncing them as bourgeoisie. A typical CCP's non-sense, huh? I agree 1.4 billion Chinese should have the right to self-determination. But be careful on what you wish for, becoz it may stir up independent movements amount different ethic groups and provinces. The descendants of roughly 1 million KMT's relocated civilians and soldiers, plus the descendants of the original 6.5 million at the end of Japanese rule should have the say on what they want. Unfortunately, any referendum should involve a nation's own citizens. Unless the 1.4 billion Chinese gives up their PRC citizens and immigrate to Taiwan, they are not eligible to participate Taiwan's self-determination. Taiwan did benefit from China, but as China's economy is crumbling and the rising labor costs, businesses are leaving. It is just capitalism. Also, you may not know that the founding of TCMC was supported by the full might of the Taiwanese government, not China. Heard of the term the Four Asian Tigers? Sadly, one of them has been failing becoz of the CCP; meanwhile, the other three including Taiwan are still thriving.
@@storage4539 The Polls in Taiwan is meaningless because it doesn't include the millions of Taiwanese living and working in China. Calling oneself Taiwanese doesn't mean they're not Chinese, just like American born Chinese is American citizen of Chinese descent. The fact that half of Taiwan's people want status quo is a good indication that being an Independent Taiwan is not going to happen. The status quo being getting the privileges offered by China. You're right the KMT preserved millions of Chinese treasures, but they still belong to China, not Taiwan. If the Taiwan government wants to keep the treasures, then the Taiwan government is essentially a Chinese government, not an independent Taiwan. Therefore there can't be Taiwan's self determination. So make a choice. "but as China's economy is crumbling and the rising labor costs, businesses are leaving" - Just because businesses are leaving doesn't mean they won't return in the future. The bottom line is China still remains Taiwan's largest trading partner. To call Taiwan thriving is a joke when its per capita income is lower than Hong Kong, one of the four tigers, not to mention the per capita income of Macau. Imagine where Taiwan would be without the benefit of being part of China. Let that sink in. I suggest you visit Taiwan and compare the airport with that of Hong Kong, Shenzhen, Beijing, Shanghai. Next compare the average income earned by Taiwanese compared with Hong Kong and Singapore, both authoritarian government.
@@medeliworld Per Chinese government's last census in 2020, there were 157k Taiwanese who lived in China. Per Taiwanese government's statistics, there were 163k Taiwanese in China around the same time. What is your source of "Millions" of Taiwanese in China? We should tell both the Chinese and Taiwanese governments that they were wrong. Taiwan has 23.6 million people. Let me know if you still imagine their polls are invalid. I thought thriving means growth rather than wealth, no? HSBC's article entitled "Vietnam: Access a THRIVING Economy with International Connections" must be a lie since thriving means per capita income per you. Taiwan managed to have an average growth of 3.2% vs Hong Kong's average growth of 1.2% from 2012 to 2022. Singapore is 3.3% and Korea is 2.7%. American Chinese means American nationality and Han Chinese ethnicity. If a Chinese born Uyghur nationalized in the US, he or she is an American national of Uyghur ethnicity. People in Taiwan are Taiwanese national of Han Chinese ethnicity. They are no different from Singaporean national of Han Chinese ethnicity. Taiwanese is not an ethical group. They are not Chinese in a sense of Chinese nationality. Additionally, indigenous people in Taiwan are not Chinese. They are Taiwanese national of their indigenous ethnicity. The polls on self-identify have been about being Taiwanese vs Chinese, not Taiwanese vs. Han Chinese. I don't understand you logic. 1) why Taiwan can only be left alone if the Taiwanese give cultural artifacts back to China? Did the CCP say they want to reunify with Taiwan becoz of antiques? 2) Status quo means no independence or reunification. That is what the polls say. What are you trying to dispute?
This is the wrong question and also the wrong answer even if it was the right question. China never has to take Taiwan. It will be here forever and the United States will not. It just that simple. The idea that the single mission of the PLA is to retake Taiwan is kind of insane. Their number one priority is to defend China at all costs and that just happens to also include Taiwan. The only reason the U.S. keeps trying to start some sort of war with China is because it hopes that in a WW3, it might somehow do to China what it did to it during the opium wars. There is zero chance of this. The only thing the U.S. is doing right now is wasting precious time and resources it should be using to become a partner in the multi-polar world before its entire society and government collapse into chaos...even more than it has already. This is all so completely unnecessary. The U.S. has no money and all of its markers are coming due. It has enjoyed free stuff from China for so long and instead of using that time to build itself up, it used it to build a very powerful 1% that is now stock full of soon to be worthless money. I am surprised the China doesn't voluntarily build the U.S. more Navy ships and send them to Biden with flowers and a hooker. Every penny the U.S. spends on its military, every new military base, every war it starts, is one more nail in the coffin. The U.S. never had to really fight the Soviet Union, it just forced it to spend all of its money. There are a lot of fantasies that apparently even smart people have about China, but the biggest one is that it thinks like the U.S. , the other is that they are somehow in an economic slowdown. Would you rather have a GDP of 10 trillion and grow at 9%, or of 19 trillion and grow at 5.5%? The answer is of course 19 trillion at 5.5% especially if that 5.5% happens to be at your competitors expense. Both mean you are growing at about 1 trillion per year, but in the latter, what you are growing matters. What China is growing is a middle class that is already larger than the entire population of the United States. and it's going to get far bigger than that and it's standard of living will continue to rise.
The US carrier fleet is the most powerful in the world. This I have no doubt. It has 11 aircraft carriers? But at sea. China aircraft carrier is its mainland where it can not only launch but swiftly replenish its missiles. Mobile and difficult to track? This to me is overwhelming firepower and a distinct advantage..... Contrary to the conventional view, China will not invade Taiwan. The reason is simple. Taiwan is not a threat to China. It is the US. So in a conflict China will use Taiwan to set a trap for the US. Initially to destroy a warship as a warning and deterrence. But if the US were to escalate, then China will use overwhelming force. And then, what next? This is an alternative view.....
Your main point of argument that America is now superior to China is that US has great accumulated experience for having fought never ending wars and China has remained peaceful for all that time; this has been proven wrong in Hitler's war against Russia. The Germans had all the most advanced weapons e.g the Tiger Tanks & Panther tanks, while USSR had the T 14 tanks far inferior to the quality of the German tanks. In the greatest tank battle of human history namely the battle of Ukraine, Russia's inferior T 14 won because the Germans were completely crushed by the Soviets with far greater numbers of T14. Consider this proposition : PLA will put into the air by 2030, 500 fighters with their top fighters " J 20". America will not win any war against China. You are too far behind !
T 14? Surely you mean T34. The biggest tank battle in WW2 was the Battle of Kursk not Ukraine. You are underestimating US stealth aircraft capabilities. Frankly I don't think China will invade, their economy is already doing badly. War will incur massive sanctions and China has a aging population which will bite hard next decade.
its simple logic nation who support their calture their type of gov are axis of evil and nation who see freedom democracy are good like usa i think this logic is in america mind and as my personal opnion that usa world order is same as nazi but little different.
I don't think so.. if they are they still know in reality they will lose and this will pull their country down the drain for a long time. Just my opinion.
@@aquagaming3480 Was slowly loosing but it will come down to who will break first Ukraine, the West supplying Ukraine or Russians loosing men and their economy suffering
@@hiddendragon415 uff i think russia got highest ecnomics growth is more then most eu countries and ukraine runing out of man and sending women. i think make propaganda worth something.
Chin has vast superiority in drones n missiles technology essential in modern warfare. On the speaker's point that China millitary lacks real combat experience, neither has US millitary had experience with large scale huge and well-equipped forces. Fighting ill-equipped and small opponents like Afghanistan n Iraq can hardly be comparable. And yet how many battles did the US millitary actually prevailed since WW2?
ACCORDING TO THE U.S GOVERNMENT TAIWAN IS A PROVINCE OF CHINA. SHANGHAI COMMUNIQUE SIGNED BY PRESIDENT NIXON 1972 AND ONE CHINA POLICY SIGNED BY PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER 1979. CASE CLOSE AND THIS IS STANCE OF THE INTERNAL COMMUNITY. TAIWAN IS NOT AN INDEPENDENT NATION.
I guess the channel owner (Dominik) has an incredibly thin skin and can't tolerate the slightest critique of his videos. Sorry I'm not a sycophant like the rest of your commenters.
i think their logic is china donot tell their detail so its jet are not good but if usa donot tell detail so its real op idk how these american got this much wisdom i also need some.
Every soldier is an only child due to the one child policy. China only has a handful of ships that can make it to the Persian gulf and secure their oil routes. India could blockade the Persian gulf against China if it wanted to (the P.G makes up more than 70% of china's energy). Their military is severely undertrained and lacks any combat experience. Their economy is tanking, right now, the entire Chinese stock market is worth less than Nvidia. Oh, and the population is aging into oblivion.
@@ivancho5854 Enough to sustain the war. China uses most of its material import to manufacture for other countries. If the war breaks out between US and China, there will be no Export for China. And the world will get huge inflation and shortage of supply, meaning a Great Recession. Of course China will be hurt most, but will survive because of the supply from Russia, Central Asia and Iran through Pakistan.
Who knows, maybe because they are expanding their military at breakneck speed and are increasingly assertive? Oh and they have said they want to reunite with Taiwan. I could go on but yeah this is a weird question for someone watching a geopolitics channel and the way you are framing it seems very suggestive.
@@TimTheMainYeah, probably a bot comment, but I think it's worthwhile to use them as an opportunity to clarify for those who are genuinely interested. On that note, I'll nit-pick a bit with your verb "reunite". I reckon you know this, but others may not: Taiwan was never a part of the PRC (communist-ruled China). It's an important distinction to make because that's Xi'a allegiance first and foremost: the communist party, not historical China. The PRC has no more claim to Taiwan than any other of Taiwan's neighbours. It's like the US making claims on former Crown land of the British Empire because once they were united under previous leadership.
@@TimTheMain in case you haven’t noticed the world is in turmoil with wars happening in Europe and the Middle East, so the world is getting dangerous, so why fault the Chinese for beefing up their military in this dangerous world? Besides, the USA is constantly nagging Europe to spend more on their militaries (and spend it on American made) and yet it whines when China is spending more on its military, isn’t there a contradiction there? And Taiwan is internationally recognized as a part of China, it’s called the One China Policy which even the USA acknowledges. The mainland is China, not Taiwan, despite their official name, the Republic of China. It’s time to acknowledge Taiwan lost the Chinese Civil War maybe? Again the double standard, … the United States was allowed to forcibly reunify with the South and destroy the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War because it’s the true America right? The One America Policy so to speak. Why doesn’t China get the same right to do the same with Taiwan?
@@TimTheMain the USA is demanding Europe pay more for their military, Trump says pay up or else. But the West whines when China increases its military spending? Double standards. China has every right to spend more in this dangerous world with a wars in Europe and the Mideast, not to mention all those US military bases surrounding China.
Yea bot comment. I can't see why anyone isn't obsessed with China, a country that had no mercantilist ambitions just 50 years ago. Now a country relies heavily on trade and is willing to threaten the use of force to force terms of trade. Also a country that actively undermines the u.s. economy despite being in bed with it. If we could anthropomorphize u.s. relations with the prc, they're a lot like an ex marital mistress that could easily ruin your life.
the problem with the carriers being US advantage argument, is US need to project power 8k miles from homeland, but for PLA they don’t need to do that (not beyond second island chain anyway), so they can just fight with rocket force, surface combatants and tactical Air Force. PLA carrier program is not the capability being prepared for next war with US, but the one after that
President Marcos Jr of the Philippines solved that problem for the US.
Because of China's relentless bullying of Filipino fishermen and Philippine Naval and Coast Guard vessels exacerbated by China's Wolf Diplomacy, Marcos Jr pivoted the Philippines away from China and moved back closer to the US, granting the latter access to more bases in the Philippines.
Now, the US can pre-position troops, planes, ships, supplies, missiles, drones and all sorts of weapons in the Philippines.
The proximity of the Philippines to Taiwan actually makes it possible for US planes, ships and troops to be protected by Anti-air missiles positioned in the islands of the Philippines facing Taiwan and China.
For example, US ships can sail and American aircraft fly close to the Philippine coastlines protected by air defense systems positioned on land.
And planes and ships of China trying to invade taiwan can be hit using missiles and drones coming from Philippines.
All the artificial islands illegally built and militarised by China are now within the range of missiles, drones and even aircraft launched from the Philippines.
American aircraft and planes can be quickly and adequately resuppplied, maintained and repaired in the Philippines. Wounded Americans can be brought to the Philippines as well.
The Philippines is composed of 7000+ islands. It is equivalent to hundreds of massive unsinkable aircraft carriers and thousands of supply and troop transport ships.
And because of the proximity of the Philippines to Taiwan and China, American response to any Chinese invasion can now be fast, massive and devastating.
Then, there's the more than 300k strong combined personnel of the Philippine armed forces, coast guard and other security forces that can help the US in a lot of ways.
Marcos Jr has practically erased China's strategic advantage over the US.
Xi Jin Ping made a strategic mistake when he alienated Marxos Jr. China lost a very important potential friend while the US regained one.
Now, all China can hope for is that the Philippines doesn't allow the Americans to use any part of the Philippines directly to aid Taiwan in case China finally acts to invade Taiwan by force.
Marcos Junior has to comply with u.s., as he has billions of USD stuck in u.s. judicial process, and the whole region are aware of this, so for Marcos is personal.
@@andrewlim7751 No. That's just the propaganda of China and its minions in the Philippines.
Every time somebody like you are challenged to provide a list of properties owned by the Marcoses, they disappear.
Now, let's see if you are somehow different. Provide us a list of those properties in the US which the Marcos Family still owns.
I'll be waiting.
Yeah, there's this group of islands called the Philippines? Right next door. Then there's Japan's Okinawa...right next door. Your "8000 miles" is so pre-1941, bruh.
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Can you talk to Brian Hart about the tensions between India and China?
india know usa is a threat as china so india and china just got border clashes i think seeing containment of china india know it will happen to india in future.
The US pays 90k usd for a large ziplock bag of bushings. We need to be assessing our own corruption
It's a corruption that is intractable because it is too profitable for the political leadership to want to do anything about it except make it more profitable.
The US does fairly well on most corruption indexes. What you're describing as "corruption" is actually "a value-added market" - things do tend to cost more in the US than, say, the Congo. Pretty sure I know where you'd rather live though haha.
@@nineomite well, if that's good enough for you
@@nineomite after a war with China? Probably Congo.
@@nineomitegood coping mechanism
Why is security competition with China being assumed in this conversation without being discussed, let alone debated?
also US naval and airmen are a bit better trained than their Chinese counterparts. also Chinese economy is a bit more vulnerable to sanctons than the Russian one.
looking how china buys a lot of things from russia(energy wise) and these relations have tightened a lot with china and iran and other key places, so I wouldnt count china getting behind; afterall iran is some sort of ally to them and they can trade tips how to bypass sanctions. rest china has resources to invest in domestic manufacturing to replace.
(in domestic view; they still dont care about their civilians by mismanagement, simple ignorance... things are more complex in international level/clashes of countries)
@@effexon well the Chinese can easilly get thru the sanctions thru Russia but when your ports are being blockaded and your shipping being sunk and seized , well your economy will really go down the toilet. The best weapon the west has vs. China is the economy.
China probably will not have big problems with sanctions I guess
Bet you got that from CNN 😂😂😂
@@accountantthe3394 bet you got that from Pravda hhahaahaha
Im surprised how bad the sound quality of those apple buds are
The simple answer is to stop trading with them!
who cares if US don't trade with China they have 1.4 billion people their domestic consumption alone will keep there economy intact. The question you should ask is what will happen to US economy if China decided not to with US lol...all US companies largest market is China now think hard what happens if china did decide not to trade with US lol..
Are you ready for triple digit inflation?
U can't they can out put produce u and they are smarter than you , your biggest export is weapons Hollywood and LGBTQ.😂
By the way how do u think America survives by borrowing money from China, or by printing it and China buys your debt other words good luck.
@@bluffdotcom5504Indeed!Some of these people are so stupid.I guess they are the kind that end up in govt.😂😂
It doesn't matter how many soldiers and weapons China has now. If China is forced into a wartime economy, it can quickly mobilize 700 million people, exceed the total industrial production capacity of G7 countries, and have strong organizational capabilities of the Chinese government. Considering the way the US government thinks, this is the language they can understand.
True. China have advantage of shipbuilding industry. But the moment the west particularly australia imposes economic sanction especially on iron, that shipbuilding industry would grind to a halt. We know that Australia after on the receiving end of chinese economic attacks is too in sync with American policy towards china.
Russia and nk have iron in high quantities
@@haydotherapper5401 There's a reason why china imports more from australia than russia.
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Great convo; thanks
Very smart and informative.
I'd question a little of the diction and some of the assumptions, but also must admit to having heard only helf before getting on a long flight. When a side has a lot of a certain capability, that's not more capabilities; I've called that mass or volume in a certain capability. So I wouldn't say China has a lot of naval capabilities, for example, but mass.
And while I'm all for the US investment in more mass (especially for the needs of near-allies like Ukraine), I think we also have to be careful about assumptions on Chinese abilities to continue production afte lr initiating conflict. Ship-building is geographically limited and conspicuous. If the US were at least to establish air superiority (even if only for a few weeks), I can't imagine any ship-building facility functioning after that. We make a lot od US industrial might in the 1940s but let's remember it was under minimal threat. German capacity was impressive but vulnerable and the air war diminished that. In a war over Taiwan, sure we'll have patrols and subs in the Atlantic, but I doubt China will spare many warships to attack Atlantic coast shipbuilders, especially given their risks.
We also should be careful about using Ukraine as much of an example (that's where I live). Artillery shells are really only critical because no side has air superiority. The US is built to gain air superiority as is most of NATO. When air defenses on our side were diminished or pull back from Avdiivka, that's when the Russians could get close with the 1000kg bombs. Thats a lot more punch than a 40kg 152mm howitzer shell. Artillery is good to get the opposite side's heads down, but you need precision to weaken a line and punch to make a hole. If China can mount enough air denial, that'll be a problem, but it's not like the US and its allies aren't working on maintaining that.
Air dominance over China? You think China is in the Middle East? Are you joking? Do you think fancy stealth technology will work against a country that has its own space station, significant naval and aerial coverage over the first and second island chains, and a formidable missile force? Let the US fly planes over lands? The US will quickly realize perhaps New York is not that far from Beijing.
The point is, it won't happen. It would be an all-out war. It would also be wrong to think they only have mass. The US would be making the same mistake it made with underestimating the Russian army but on a larger scale.
The only result you'll get is an army that now has real-world experience and enough economic leverage to shut down the world's economy.
I believe China wants to get so big and modern that the US won't dare interfere in its affairs. Sooner or later, they'll get there. China is playing the long game; they don't have a change in leadership to shake that vision.
You talking about land war. The US won't dare to start a land war with China. It will be considered as invasion. A nuclear
The US won't dare!
Nobody attacks a Nuclear power like that!
China is not Iraq or Afghanistan. This is a country that has invested decades in improving its armed forces. Just like the Abrams in Ukraine, when those planes are shot down, it would be like seeing a god bleed. Once they acquire the technology, any F-22 or F-35 flying within that region will be easily detected.
Also, let's not forget they possess fifth-generation fighters, outnumbering the US with over 200 units and building more variants.
Their naval fleet is extensive and capable of providing robust air defense long before those jets approach mainland China.
if Japan, the Philippines, or South Korea become staging grounds, they'll become targets as well. This is China's backyard, and the US leadership, concerns about China's escalating military prowess shows they are not a force you can bomb at will.
...time favors China, every year China continues its military builds up, and capabilities, the odds tilt increasingly in Beijing's favor, especially in its own neighborhood. With potential support from Russia, that trajectory only accelerates further.
You should check the war games done in the US in a war with China over Taiwan...China wins all the time.
There is quality in numbers, China has numbers, well-educated numbers.
...and if and when the US fails to defeat China, it only diminishes its own hegemony, strengthening China in the process.
China's major misstep to me might lie in its 9-dash line ambitions. Collaborating with neighbors both militarily and economically could keep the US at bay and guarantee safer growth for the region and China.
@@Blake_87 Blake, my man, you've dipped deep into the Beijing Bot punch bowl. I cannot speak with similar confidence as to knowing what the PLA isn't as do with what it can do. Sudanese soldiers are more battle-tested than the PLA.
My point was if/when China invades another one of its neighbours, all its now-impressive ship-building facilities will be extremely vulnerable because they'll be within range of Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Philippine, Autralian, British... and American forces. (Sheesh there are so many of China's neighbours who are worried about Chinese bullying, aren't there? It's like an endless list of who's who in the Pacific rim. Crazy. It's a good thing for China they have stand-up allies like North Korea and Russia; but what a crew of miscreants, hey?)
If the US is involved in the fight to defend the innocent people of Taiwan, they're going to hit military targets inside China. If China retaliates with nuclear force they've already lost the war.
@@thomasjgallagher924 Bot? lol
I am not American nor Chinese so I get to see things differently.
I believe a world with multiple economic and military giants will benefit all of us and China should be allowed to grow and attain the dominance it wants just like the US did in North and South America in the 19's.
They've done more good for the planet (cheap quality goods and green tech, all that without tumbling governments and funding terror) in a few decades than the US has with endless wars since WW2.
...back to the topic
The PLA hasn't gone to war in a long time, yes!, the same thing applies to all parties involved including the US and when they do, there will be casualties on all sides.
Largely because no country has had to attack or defend in an amphibious operation on this scale on an Island this big since the last World War.
Besides none of the mentioned neighbors recognize Taiwan.
In a scenario like Ukraine, where Turkey could have attacked Russian warships in the Black Sea but avoided direct confrontation by supplying weapons to Ukraine for them to use, similar tactics can be expected.
Japan or South Korea directly attacking China seems unlikely.
Although the US may try to rally support, it's uncertain if Japan and South Korea would participate beyond providing weapons.
China, being the largest trading partner of neighboring countries, acts in its own interests.
Attacking Taiwan wouldn't provoke Japan, the Philippines, or South Korea due to the lack of military agreements like NATO.
Again drawing reference from the war in Ukraine did you notice NATO and the US are the only countries supporting Ukraine with Funds and Weapons, of course, Canada.
With China, I believe it will be the same or worse. most countries would rather be neutral and trade with both countries involved.
China's focus on missile development makes attacking its shipyards challenging and costly.
A country that has become the manufacturing hub of the world will have no problem quickly repairing a destroyed shipyard....Don't forget North Korea, they could destabilize any coalition against China by attacking South Korea.
...while we are all speculating, any conflict involving Taiwan and China would have complex and far-reaching consequences and wouldn't be as straightforward as ramming F22s into Chinese airspace. (that was my bone of contention)
How does the US pick war with China? US wants to fight naval war only in SCS? What does the US use to fight a naval war in SCS, using aircraft carrier with 7000 sailors and 50 jest onboard the ship? China has plans for different wasr with the US on land, in SCS or over Taiwan territory?China has all resource ready for different war operations. China has one advantage that the US does not have, i.e. China is fighting on its door step whereas the US is fighting a war half way round the war, and the US fighting a war with China has no real aim or purpose. or a winning strategy. Out of 10 war games, the US never win one with China. China has hundreds of thousands of cheap and quality drones to fight the US slow moving ships. After two days of constant attack by China drones , the US aircraft carries will have consumed all its defense missiles each costing a million USD. The US supply ships will be sunk by the PLA before they can help the aircraft carrier which will be sunk by the PLA later. The US cannot afford to lose 7000 sailors over a war with China without benefit to the money-hungry politicians. Hence, now and later, the US will not enter a war with China. So far the US is only showing off its naval ships. The US will never fight a war with China on land. This will start a WW3 with nuclear weapons.
You think a million dollar missile is the only counter to drones? Get a clue.
This is the most sensible thing I’ve read today. 😊
From the Ukraine and Gaza wars we can observe that there is a big paradigm shift in warfare. Drones , even cheap drones can neutralize expensive missile defence systems. The new paradigm is "Drones and Missiles will rule the battlefield".
Lacking confidence
What is the risk-benefit assessment on a war in the Indo-Pacific against China? Will China start it?
usa is a aggressor here and usa is a evil since world war 1 like usa world order is worse then nazi.
I've heard that being a soldier in China is seen as something only for the lower class and not a good career choice. The US military has a large base of career non-coms who are highly important in all things, and I don't think China is nearly as up to speed in that regard.
True about the PLA (and there is also the issue of parents not being enthusiastic about their only child being at risk), but the US isn’t hitting its recruiting and retention goals either. Hopefully DOD can turn around a lot of the recent nonsense and go back to foxing on bringing in and retaining warfighters.
@statmonster The biggest problem America faces is dealing with our freakout culture. There's over 2 million people in the U.S military, and we're what? A few thousand short of where we were a couple years ago? And people act as if we lost ww3 before it even started.
You forgot the FACT in Korean War Chinese Soldiers were mostly uneducated Peasants.
Though it maybe true, however with 1.3 billion people. There are plenty of people in the lower class. Also, the one child policy wasn't strictly enforced in the countryside. They gave birth at home. So, a pregnant woman just needs to lay low for like 4 months. It's fairly easy to do if you're in a village that's mainly just family and friends. My aunt had 5 kids.
It was also region specific, my uncle had 3. But with my last cousin they had to pay a fine since they went over the limit.
People are people anywhere. They're going to do what they want despite there being a law against it.
Where the US military recruits from ivy league universities 🥸
I’m wondering how think tanks like CSIS get their information? Do they have access to non-public data? And if so, where do they get it from? Is it their own research or from their governments?
about artillery shells.... looks 800-1000$ shell which is pretty heavy and needs logistics, makes sense to add relatively cheap additions like chips(excalibur shell style) or wings to make it way more efficient than simply dumb shell, especially if there are bottlenecks in its production in mass scale.
Building small numbers of expensive "exquisite systems" (wunderwaffe) is not going to be an advantage for the US beyond the opening salvo. When the existing stockpile gets used up in the span or weeks or months, the advantage dissipates. US procurement is obsessed with having high-spec "military grade" everything, but the war in Ukraine has shown that large numbers of cheap munitions built with commercial grade components (especially electronics, where commercial parts can sometimes be decades ahead of military-grade parts) can vastly outweigh the impact of small numbers of high-end systems. Even high-end systems such as missiles and fighter jets benefit from modification or redesign using commercial components, when mass production for war becomes required. In this respect China has a massive advantage over the US.
Exactly. What is the difference between high-end and not-so-high-end? Not that much in my opinion. A 1980s bullet can do as much damage as a 2024 bullet. There is one thing about military hardware, most are meant to be used only once, so as long as it does the job reasonably well, the quality doesn't really matter that much.
This mentality is silly. The US doesn't have "exquisite systems". We have very capable weapon systems meant to engage multiple forces at once, but they are not "wonder weapons" and assessing them as such is your first problem. If that were the case we wouldn't have been telling Ukraine to use the weapons we send them in combined arms tactics. Ukraine ignoring that has led to losses (and even then we have footage of US weapons systems on their own doing more damage than their "peers", see HIMARS).
Second, China's advantage in manufacturing is meaningless if they can't transport it where they need to. That's where the US Navy comes in, as we can knock their Navy out to the point a lot of their systems are not capable of operating anymore. That's the advantage we have, as the US Navy can dock from the Phillipines to Japan, and China can't fully hit those without risking its more expensive naval assets that they can't just mass produce. For comparison, US Submarines have popped up in Chinese waters undetected to make a point on multiple occasions.
Third, the necessity of these components is why they are generally built stateside. Remember, we grounded our entire F-35 fleet when we found Chinese components in it. We don't rely on our enemies for our war machine, that would be silly.
@@dimelo3027 The difference between high-end and not-so-high-end is the HIMARS and the Patriot compared with the Grad and the S-400. HIMARS annihilated Russian logistics with only one loss in the entire war so far. Patriot intercepted "unstoppable" Russian hypersonics on multiple occasions with no losses since their delivery. The same cannot be said for Russia's weapons.
So the difference is whether your logistics lines are on fire or the enemy's. Remember, Russia's answer to HIMARS has been human waves to try and expend its ammo, and their answer to Patriot was that they ran out of Khinzal missiles.
"Exquisite systems" is a direct quotation from the interviewee in this video -- watch before commenting. As for things like HIMARS and GMLRS, what you don't see in the meme videos from Ukraine is the fact that EW is extremely effective at disrupting all of these systems. Within weeks to months the Russians are able to adapt and severely blunt their effectiveness, with inertial guidance being unable to produce satisfactory results. Meanwhile, they crank out more cheap, simple, old-fashioned artillery rounds than the combined capability of US and NATO, augmenting them with targeting via drones. For naval and air assets the US still definitely has a major advantage over China in terms of quality, and in sizable enough quantity to be a deterrent against invading Taiwan for now, but the trends looking forward 10-20 years are concerning. @@dfmrcv862
@@KramnikDaniel "blunt their effectiveness". I wouldn't say moving the logistics lines so far back Russian troops in the front were starved for ammo for months a "blunting". "Adapting", sure, but it made them far less combat effective.
In fact, you have no sources for EW working on HIMARS or drones to my knowledge given how common they are in use still. And for cranking out "cheap, simple, old-fashioned artillery" it hasn't done them any good as they have failed at counter-battery operations against HIMARS on all but one occasion. This was even with the US halting aid for half a year.
I have no idea what research you have done, but maybe look up better sources.
Pentagon war games have been predicting US defeat in Taiwan for years at this point. In 2018, the Pentagon ran 18 war games of a war over Taiwan with the most realistic conditions and lost all 18 of them to China.
Check it out online!
Call BS, armchair general Commisar Troll. No attached site. Do you know how long are the mudflats on the Taiwan coast nearest the mainland? How much longer an eastern assault would take?
You are totally wrong the war games simulations showed China won a few quick ones but over longer term US won more. Where did you get your information? I'm curious
Games
@@lamarcalewarts1155 ya but America spam on internet when they defeat china in a war game.
There is 1 ship yard in China that is making more every year than all of the USA ship yards just 1 do some research you will see I’m correct it has been talked about in senate review meeting 🇬🇧🇺🇦👍🏼
That means absolutely nothing. LOL. Get real.
what's the quality of those ships, *exactly?*
Hey, assuming USA is still the ultimate force is not realistic.
Don't be a pretenders when you have too many doubts.
Simply not ready.
We (the US) could be outsourcing some shipbuilding to Korea and Japan, which would vastly improve the situation, but red tape is getting in the way.
Please answer the questions directly.
They are more than ready.
China will very happy to hear about this from your opinion, China are happy that they know everything about US but US are not know about China. The problem are very serious. 😢
When you lose a pawn, you lose a pawn. Don’t sacrifice your queen to save it. There are always other pawns.
What you did not address is the fact the US can destroy Chinese industrial capacity where as the PLA cannot degrade and destroy US production capacity
it donot make sence why china canot hit usa but usa can hit china i think donot forgot if usa hit china homeland china will hit usa with frist strike nuclear missle and am sure america see that and these just words that america will come to defend Taiwan time will tell .
China may be choosing to power their ships conventionally as to avoid a nuclear crises in the even of a conflict. This would be a responsible and honerable way to fight a war. But only time will tell
He doesn't seem to realize that quality is much more important than quality!
Yeah. Talk to GM and Ford about quality.
To help ensure that the US defends Taiwan against invasion by China, Taiwan must increase its military spending to at least the same percentage of GDP that the US spends. Otherwise Americans who oppose putting US soldiers in harms way to defend Taiwan could argue that Taiwan is free riding on the US, something along the lines of "The Taiwanese expect to play video games while Americans not only fight and die for them but also pick up the check for it." Moreover, from the 10,000 meter perspective, it seems INSANE that Taiwan's population is 50 times smaller than China's yet Taiwan spends much less of its GDP on defense than China does. Taiwan spends only about 2% of GDP on defense. Although China reports spending about the same, in reality China probably spends about 5-6% of its GDP on defense (as explained in the next paragraph). It seems wildly reckless and irresponsible for Taiwan to spend only 2% of GDP on defense while a very hostile nation 50 times larger in population spends 5-6% of GDP on defense or more accurately on offense. If and when the time comes when Taiwan needs the American military, Americans who oppose helping Taiwan could argue that Taiwan's lack of defense spending tells us that, in truth, most Taiwanese don't really care that much about their freedom: "Taiwanese were not willing to spend money to defend their freedom. Why should Americans fight, die and spend a fortune to defend Taiwan's freedom when Taiwan wasn't even willing to spend what the US spends percentage-wise much less what China spends?" I make these points because I want the US to defend Taiwan. It would be an absolute disaster if China took over Taiwan. So I want Taiwan to take the steps that will help ensure that the US prevents it. Again, the number one thing Taiwan should do is spend more on defense, at least as much as the US spends (currently ~3.7% of GDP).
Regarding China's true military spending... China reports spending about the same % as Taiwan or even a bit lower at ~1.7%. However, many other sources estimate China's military spending as higher. For example, the US Dept of Defense in 2021 estimated China's true military spending as between 20% to 100% higher than the reported figure, i.e., somewhere between 2% and 3.4% . See chinapower.csis.org/military-spending/China. However, these higher estimates are themselves far too low because they wrongly assume that China's reported GDP is accurate. China's true GDP is somewhere between one-third and two-thirds of what the CCP says it is, as explained in the videos listed below. As such, China true military spending is likely around 5% to 6% of its GDP. To understand how China's true GDP could be so much lower than what the CCP reports, watch the first three videos below, starting with the first one. Additional videos about China's true GDP are listed further down below.
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Not impossible
Lets be honest. The reason the US was successful in WW2, was they waited 4 years, built up assets and profited from the allies's demise. The war was almost over in Europe. They also joined WW1 after waiting 4 years 😅😂
Uh, that's not correct. The war broke off in 1939 and we got in at the end of 1941. The US had a huge industrial base that was able to supply the soviets through lend lease.
@@claydredsbroadhead7763 Through land lease the US supplied the Soviets the equivalence of 180 billion dollars in todays money. 400,000 jeeps and trucks, 14,000 airplanes, 8,000 tractors, 13,000 tanks, 15 million pairs of army boots, 2.7 million tons of petroleum products, 4.5 million tons of food, The U.S. even transported an entire Ford Company tire factory, which made tires for military vehicles, to the Soviet Union.
Comments are prejudiced, obviously haven’t informed yourself with the numbers of casualties the US suffered. It’s an insult to the young Americans that died
@@claydredsbroadhead7763 Lend Lease wasn't free money. You just proved my point.
@@terryvarta9306 you just proved my point
The establishment around war planning is so linear, but it’s kind of embarrassing. There’s so many things mention of this video that would be considered lessons from Ukraine or Israel that were pointed to in relation to conflict with China. I guess one example would be the mentioning of the industrial base and how important pumping out artillery shells is I think that’s a specific take away and not take away for conflict as a whole. I don’t know how China intends to lab artillery shells 95 miles across the water.
China has a lot more missiles - with US warships and bases in its sights:
Routinely hosts US bombers or a carrier strike group sailing in the South China Sea could face dozens, even hundreds, of ballistic missiles in salvos intended to overwhelm their defenses, shatter critical capabilities, and send US warships sinking into the depths.
One senior defense official said it's changing America's appetite for war in the region, "creating a conventional deterrence capability that threatens our posture, our presence, and our activities in ways that would potentially cause decision-makers in Washington to consider the risks to be too high."
About US millitary having more combat experience I dont think you can equate fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan agst vastly smaller and less equipped opposition as comparable to China. And certainly the reason
One of the worst strategic plans we could possibly make is to begin joint ventures. This is what Europe does, and their militaries are laughable and serve as A buyer for the US military to get there. Anybody who’s in favor of joint ventures when it comes to military production have zero thought whatsoever.
I am not trying to be negative here. But opening statement with ww2 production. During ww2 amercans were tough. The homefront production was as so strong that many women takes up production job. Children gives away their small savings. Metals in cars etc were cut off just for metals needed for military used. Look at thr present state of US, with all the wokeness, women saying we dont need men, will it still be possible to channel the production like ww2 when people there are soo entitled. And again if USA and china goes to war, the value of dollar will surely plummet as it is fiat money.
USA can’t even fight with the Taliban 👎👎👎
well in the case of China , I think the PLA has taken over the CCP,
The PLA has been 2nd most strongest faction in the Chinese Gov. The PLA has a lot of political clout in how the country of China is governed, in fact over the decades since the 70s, the PLA has become mainly financially independent from the Chinese gov. and is the largest mega corporation in China, owning lots of companies producing everything from weapons to smartphone to commercial ships to dollar store nick knacks.
And the PLA leadership is known to be very hardline in its stance with the USA and Taiwan. and Xinping's hold on power is due to support from the PLA leadership.
Ever since 1979 up until the rule of Xinping. the CCP has been at the drivers seat of China. Deng made sure that the PLA was cut down in terms of political influence after Chinese withdrawal from Vietnam in 79 which greatly embarrassed the PLA which Deng fired its hardline Maoist leadership and replaced them with technocrats who were supportive of Deng's economic reforms.
Economy first at all cost was the Chinese policy. Since 2012 has the influence of the Chinese technocrats been broken and the CCP is focusing on power consolidation and nationalism.
Is this factoring in the fact that PLA has theater commands that are not linked. Also, they have Political Officers in the military throughout.
Xi JinPing also had a major military and government officials purge for like the last 5 years or more.
Damn dawg. How long took you to google this chit up?
@@bluffdotcom5504 STRAIGHT DIRECT from my brain pan,
Either this summer or next, Xi said he will take Taiwan till 2025 ... and I think he lets himself a safety year so 24 is likely
Carriers are sitting ducks these days.... just like tanks are being taken out by drones... not a lot of ways to defeat hypersonic missiles....
I believe Winnie Xitler will win against the United States.
...inside his Disney Cartoon. 😅😅😅😅
he didnt understand china...... does he been service us miltary
The PLA Rocket Force is probably very worried about the recent exchange of airborne weapons between Iran and Israel. Israel, the US, the UK and Jordan effectively intercepted and destroyed some 350 drones, ballistic missiles and cruise missiles fired by Iran. Meanwhile, Iran was incapable to targeting and destroying only a few Israeli assets that took out Iranian radar systems. The US and its allies would perform equally well in a Taiwan conflict. This is quite significant as China has bet big on it missile capabilities.
I would hope so but suspect PRC air defense (and missile offense) would be better than Iran’s and I don’t get the impression Taiwan takes air defense nearly as seriously as Israel does. The US (Guam and maybe what we could deploy or float over there) Japan and ROK based are better than the ROC, but still nothing like the density of air defense Israel (plus its allies and friends) can offer over a small geographical area. Israel also benefited from the strikes coming in from long range and no sabotage or cyber attacks of their air defense network. I fear a Chinese first strike would be a lot more like Pearl Harbor than last weekend’s Iranian attack.
"Israeli assets" were quite possibly F-35s.
Unless the soldiers used the fuel to cook food. Chinese corruption
Japan joins AUKUS = JAUKUS?
The host is really ignorant about China and Taiwan thinking that people in taiwan want independence. If that were the case Taiwan would have decoupled from China a long time ago. The fact is Taiwan's economy is more integrated with China than ever before. There are millions of Taiwanese living and working in China and vice versa. The latest election in Taiwan spoke for itself where the DPP lost its majority in the Taiwan parliament.
But the DDP still won the presidency. The Taiwanese want status quo. They have had de facto independence already, and they don’t want to declare it to avoid CCP’s aggression. They also don’t want to be united with China. They want China to leave them alone.
@@storage4539 The DPP won by only a slim margin, which showed the Taiwanese people don't want independence, which was the DPP policy all along.
Taiwan can't have the cake and eat it too. Taiwan still holds millions of treasures and gold stolen from China. Not to mention the millions of Chinese soldiers forced to leave China.
If Taiwan wants to keep the status quo, then they have to return all the stolen treasures and the millions of Chinese descendants that belong to China. That's like 25 million Chinese descendants who settled in Taiwan.
The 1.4 billion Chinese people have the right to self determination and they want Taiwan to be part of China.
The situation is the same as Hong Kong. Just because Hong Kong had 150 years of independence doesn't mean they could declare independence and annex Hong Kong from China.
They also don’t want to be united with China. They want China to leave them alone." - If that's really the case, then they shouldn't do any trade with China. Taiwan has become prosperous by taking advantage of the special privilege given to Taiwan by China. Thousands of Taiwan companies take advantage of China's unlimited skilled labor and land to make Taiwan what it is today.
@@medeliworld So much to unpack. If you have followed Taiwan's elections, you must have known that elections are never about a single issue. The DDP's domestic performance hasn't been stellar, granted a ruling party is always under critical scrutiny. Supporting the DDP or the KMT only tells you so much on what the Taiwanese think of China. I assume you have followed polls in Taiwan. You shouldn't be surprised to learn that majority of people identifies themselves as Taiwanese instead of Chinese, and half of Taiwan's people want the status quo, and roughly less than 10% want unification.
The KMT didn't steal anything. There were the internationally recognized government of China till 1970s. Also, you should be glad that the KMT helped to preserve the Chinese civilization form the destruction instigated by CCP's Red Guards during the Cultural Revolution. I encourage you read some history on their evil deeds, including the destruction of the Ming Dynasty tomb of the Wanli Emperor, lighting the emperor's and empress' bones on fire and denouncing them as bourgeoisie. A typical CCP's non-sense, huh?
I agree 1.4 billion Chinese should have the right to self-determination. But be careful on what you wish for, becoz it may stir up independent movements amount different ethic groups and provinces. The descendants of roughly 1 million KMT's relocated civilians and soldiers, plus the descendants of the original 6.5 million at the end of Japanese rule should have the say on what they want. Unfortunately, any referendum should involve a nation's own citizens. Unless the 1.4 billion Chinese gives up their PRC citizens and immigrate to Taiwan, they are not eligible to participate Taiwan's self-determination.
Taiwan did benefit from China, but as China's economy is crumbling and the rising labor costs, businesses are leaving. It is just capitalism. Also, you may not know that the founding of TCMC was supported by the full might of the Taiwanese government, not China. Heard of the term the Four Asian Tigers? Sadly, one of them has been failing becoz of the CCP; meanwhile, the other three including Taiwan are still thriving.
@@storage4539 The Polls in Taiwan is meaningless because it doesn't include the millions of Taiwanese living and working in China.
Calling oneself Taiwanese doesn't mean they're not Chinese, just like American born Chinese is American citizen of Chinese descent.
The fact that half of Taiwan's people want status quo is a good indication that being an Independent Taiwan is not going to happen. The status quo being getting the privileges offered by China.
You're right the KMT preserved millions of Chinese treasures, but they still belong to China, not Taiwan. If the Taiwan government wants to keep the treasures, then the Taiwan government is essentially a Chinese government, not an independent Taiwan. Therefore there can't be Taiwan's self determination. So make a choice.
"but as China's economy is crumbling and the rising labor costs, businesses are leaving" - Just because businesses are leaving doesn't mean they won't return in the future. The bottom line is China still remains Taiwan's largest trading partner.
To call Taiwan thriving is a joke when its per capita income is lower than Hong Kong, one of the four tigers, not to mention the per capita income of Macau. Imagine where Taiwan would be without the benefit of being part of China. Let that sink in.
I suggest you visit Taiwan and compare the airport with that of Hong Kong, Shenzhen, Beijing, Shanghai. Next compare the average income earned by Taiwanese compared with Hong Kong and Singapore, both authoritarian government.
@@medeliworld Per Chinese government's last census in 2020, there were 157k Taiwanese who lived in China. Per Taiwanese government's statistics, there were 163k Taiwanese in China around the same time. What is your source of "Millions" of Taiwanese in China? We should tell both the Chinese and Taiwanese governments that they were wrong. Taiwan has 23.6 million people. Let me know if you still imagine their polls are invalid.
I thought thriving means growth rather than wealth, no? HSBC's article entitled "Vietnam: Access a THRIVING Economy with International Connections" must be a lie since thriving means per capita income per you. Taiwan managed to have an average growth of 3.2% vs Hong Kong's average growth of 1.2% from 2012 to 2022. Singapore is 3.3% and Korea is 2.7%.
American Chinese means American nationality and Han Chinese ethnicity. If a Chinese born Uyghur nationalized in the US, he or she is an American national of Uyghur ethnicity. People in Taiwan are Taiwanese national of Han Chinese ethnicity. They are no different from Singaporean national of Han Chinese ethnicity. Taiwanese is not an ethical group. They are not Chinese in a sense of Chinese nationality. Additionally, indigenous people in Taiwan are not Chinese. They are Taiwanese national of their indigenous ethnicity. The polls on self-identify have been about being Taiwanese vs Chinese, not Taiwanese vs. Han Chinese.
I don't understand you logic. 1) why Taiwan can only be left alone if the Taiwanese give cultural artifacts back to China? Did the CCP say they want to reunify with Taiwan becoz of antiques? 2) Status quo means no independence or reunification. That is what the polls say. What are you trying to dispute?
This is the wrong question and also the wrong answer even if it was the right question. China never has to take Taiwan. It will be here forever and the United States will not. It just that simple. The idea that the single mission of the PLA is to retake Taiwan is kind of insane. Their number one priority is to defend China at all costs and that just happens to also include Taiwan. The only reason the U.S. keeps trying to start some sort of war with China is because it hopes that in a WW3, it might somehow do to China what it did to it during the opium wars. There is zero chance of this. The only thing the U.S. is doing right now is wasting precious time and resources it should be using to become a partner in the multi-polar world before its entire society and government collapse into chaos...even more than it has already. This is all so completely unnecessary. The U.S. has no money and all of its markers are coming due. It has enjoyed free stuff from China for so long and instead of using that time to build itself up, it used it to build a very powerful 1% that is now stock full of soon to be worthless money. I am surprised the China doesn't voluntarily build the U.S. more Navy ships and send them to Biden with flowers and a hooker. Every penny the U.S. spends on its military, every new military base, every war it starts, is one more nail in the coffin. The U.S. never had to really fight the Soviet Union, it just forced it to spend all of its money. There are a lot of fantasies that apparently even smart people have about China, but the biggest one is that it thinks like the U.S. , the other is that they are somehow in an economic slowdown. Would you rather have a GDP of 10 trillion and grow at 9%, or of 19 trillion and grow at 5.5%? The answer is of course 19 trillion at 5.5% especially if that 5.5% happens to be at your competitors expense. Both mean you are growing at about 1 trillion per year, but in the latter, what you are growing matters. What China is growing is a middle class that is already larger than the entire population of the United States. and it's going to get far bigger than that and it's standard of living will continue to rise.
The US carrier fleet is the most powerful in the world. This I have no doubt. It has 11 aircraft carriers? But at sea. China aircraft carrier is its mainland where it can not only launch but swiftly replenish its missiles. Mobile and difficult to track? This to me is overwhelming firepower and a distinct advantage.....
Contrary to the conventional view, China will not invade Taiwan. The reason is simple. Taiwan is not a threat to China. It is the US. So in a conflict China will use Taiwan to set a trap for the US. Initially to destroy a warship as a warning and deterrence. But if the US were to escalate, then China will use overwhelming force. And then, what next?
This is an alternative view.....
😂😂😂. Us military needs budget....
Your main point of argument that America is now superior to China is that US has great accumulated experience for having fought never ending wars and China has remained peaceful for all that time; this has been proven wrong in Hitler's war against Russia. The Germans had all the most advanced weapons e.g the Tiger Tanks & Panther tanks, while USSR had the T 14 tanks far inferior to the quality of the German tanks. In the greatest tank battle of human history namely the battle of Ukraine, Russia's inferior T 14 won because the Germans were completely crushed by the Soviets with far greater numbers of T14. Consider this proposition : PLA will put into the air by 2030, 500 fighters with their top fighters " J 20". America will not win any war against China. You are too far behind !
T 14? Surely you mean T34. The biggest tank battle in WW2 was the Battle of Kursk not Ukraine. You are underestimating US stealth aircraft capabilities. Frankly I don't think China will invade, their economy is already doing badly. War will incur massive sanctions and China has a aging population which will bite hard next decade.
its simple logic nation who support their calture their type of gov are axis of evil and nation who see freedom democracy are good like usa i think this logic is in america mind and as my personal opnion that usa world order is same as nazi but little different.
can china defeat US? Maybe yes...if US will just sit down & look pretty.... hehehe
Maybe no.... hehehe
I don't think so.. if they are they still know in reality they will lose and this will pull their country down the drain for a long time. Just my opinion.
America is too strong for China to liberate Taiwan.
The view shared in this video is not quite correct. Sounds like an expert but it is far from the reality
Of course pla can fight, remember the Korean war ? uncle sam got a bloody nose !
No and no
US with all its experience in losing wars, what have you won lately, failure in Ukraine, Iraq, etc., name a successful mission.
Ukraine isn't lost
@@hiddendragon415 on the way to losing ;-
@@aquagaming3480 Was slowly loosing but it will come down to who will break first Ukraine, the West supplying Ukraine or Russians loosing men and their economy suffering
@@hiddendragon415 uff i think russia got highest ecnomics growth is more then most eu countries and ukraine runing out of man and sending women. i think make propaganda worth something.
Chin has vast superiority in drones n missiles technology essential in modern warfare. On the speaker's point that China millitary lacks real combat experience, neither has US millitary had experience with large scale huge and well-equipped forces. Fighting ill-equipped and small opponents like Afghanistan n Iraq can hardly be comparable. And yet how many battles did the US millitary actually prevailed since WW2?
I disagree with you guy there
Lack of experience in Actual Combat mga chekwa hahaha
ACCORDING TO THE U.S GOVERNMENT TAIWAN IS A PROVINCE OF CHINA. SHANGHAI COMMUNIQUE SIGNED BY PRESIDENT NIXON 1972 AND ONE CHINA POLICY SIGNED BY PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER 1979. CASE CLOSE AND THIS IS STANCE OF THE INTERNAL COMMUNITY. TAIWAN IS NOT AN INDEPENDENT NATION.
I guess the channel owner (Dominik) has an incredibly thin skin and can't tolerate the slightest critique of his videos. Sorry I'm not a sycophant like the rest of your commenters.
Does your guy there knows chinese?, has he ever been inside chinese ships?😂, just bias nonsense
i think their logic is china donot tell their detail so its jet are not good but if usa donot tell detail so its real op idk how these american got this much wisdom i also need some.
Every soldier is an only child due to the one child policy. China only has a handful of ships that can make it to the Persian gulf and secure their oil routes. India could blockade the Persian gulf against China if it wanted to (the P.G makes up more than 70% of china's energy). Their military is severely undertrained and lacks any combat experience. Their economy is tanking, right now, the entire Chinese stock market is worth less than Nvidia. Oh, and the population is aging into oblivion.
China has oil and gas supply by land from Russia and other Stans nearby.
@@qingzhou9983That's no where near enough.
你应该看看中国正面点的新闻,这样你会知道,如果是战争,我们大量的军队是由农村和更小的城市年轻人组成,上海,北京,这些地方的年轻人是少数,就像二战时期,都是纽约,芝加哥的人嘛?我们军队训练强度超过以往了,因为有钱了。
@@ivancho5854
Enough to sustain the war.
China uses most of its material import to manufacture for other countries.
If the war breaks out between US and China, there will be no Export for China. And the world will get huge inflation and shortage of supply, meaning a Great Recession.
Of course China will be hurt most, but will survive because of the supply from Russia, Central Asia and Iran through Pakistan.
Also land pipelines are almost impossible to defend and would be blown up in several locations within the first week.
What a commentary of doom. Do these guys called leaders not learn anything. Is the USD or the Yuan more important than our planet??
Quite a few chinese bots here 😊
me
Copium 😂
This guy ought to be taken seriously given his background and position. He is a seasoned professional
Not so much. These are the same guys who missed every damn thing about Ukraine.
Hell ya US have plenty of experience in losing wars 😅
2 15 year olds talking nonsense
Why is everyone obsessed with China 🐉??
Who knows, maybe because they are expanding their military at breakneck speed and are increasingly assertive? Oh and they have said they want to reunite with Taiwan. I could go on but yeah this is a weird question for someone watching a geopolitics channel and the way you are framing it seems very suggestive.
@@TimTheMainYeah, probably a bot comment, but I think it's worthwhile to use them as an opportunity to clarify for those who are genuinely interested. On that note, I'll nit-pick a bit with your verb "reunite". I reckon you know this, but others may not: Taiwan was never a part of the PRC (communist-ruled China). It's an important distinction to make because that's Xi'a allegiance first and foremost: the communist party, not historical China. The PRC has no more claim to Taiwan than any other of Taiwan's neighbours. It's like the US making claims on former Crown land of the British Empire because once they were united under previous leadership.
@@TimTheMain in case you haven’t noticed the world is in turmoil with wars happening in Europe and the Middle East, so the world is getting dangerous, so why fault the Chinese for beefing up their military in this dangerous world?
Besides, the USA is constantly nagging Europe to spend more on their militaries (and spend it on American made) and yet it whines when China is spending more on its military, isn’t there a contradiction there?
And Taiwan is internationally recognized as a part of China, it’s called the One China Policy which even the USA acknowledges. The mainland is China, not Taiwan, despite their official name, the Republic of China. It’s time to acknowledge Taiwan lost the Chinese Civil War maybe? Again the double standard, … the United States was allowed to forcibly reunify with the South and destroy the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War because it’s the true America right? The One America Policy so to speak. Why doesn’t China get the same right to do the same with Taiwan?
@@TimTheMain the USA is demanding Europe pay more for their military, Trump says pay up or else. But the West whines when China increases its military spending? Double standards. China has every right to spend more in this dangerous world with a wars in Europe and the Mideast, not to mention all those US military bases surrounding China.
Yea bot comment. I can't see why anyone isn't obsessed with China, a country that had no mercantilist ambitions just 50 years ago. Now a country relies heavily on trade and is willing to threaten the use of force to force terms of trade. Also a country that actively undermines the u.s. economy despite being in bed with it. If we could anthropomorphize u.s. relations with the prc, they're a lot like an ex marital mistress that could easily ruin your life.
Why US lost to China,in Korean war and Vietnam war?😂😂😂
Fine out and you will know 😂😂😂😂num nuts 😂