Kratos Regrets Killing Magni + Modi - God of War Ragnarok Valhalla Boss Fight
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Kratos used to be very similar with thoses two, abused, prideful, cruel... yet he changed for the better. That's what make Magni and Modi death so sad for they didn't get that chance.
In the end, they tried to harm both kratos and the boy
@@Tuturial464 kratos did much worse but you are right those guys deserved this for what they have done
By all means, Kratos and Atreus fulfilled Faye's final wish
@@ArmoredG if you are saying kratos became good man he is not like before then you are right.but that doesnt change he did so many bad things and punishment for all bad things is death but permanent one.after only one life is equal to another he stole so many peoples life,their future and caused so many pain as long souls of victims or their family doesnt say "i forgive you" he must be punished it is againts definition of justice.(btw with my deepest apologies if i misunderstood.)
@@yusufkaradag8983exactly I'm all for a peaceful kratos but when they make him regret dvmb sh!t like dat it pisses me off, hes a not a disney land character hes an ex god of war he shouldn't feel remorseful for being forced to kill those who threatened his sons life bc he himself should understand he was doin it all for the safety of his loved one, the devs having him say shit like i could've turned foes to friends urks me bc thats a far fetched illogical believe especially when made by somebody like him he should know as a solider that peace can only be established by those who seek it, not the ones who don't. The ppl kratos had went to war with seemed dead beat on overthrowing him and his ppl so why feel remorseful for doing things he had to do?
I appreciate Kratos’ deep insight on Magni and Modi. Having the ability to sympathise with an enemy or a villain requires, at least in my opinion, a mature and open minded perspective.
one question how to unlock tyr's set in valhalla know anyone?
It is indeed mature and open minded, such is empathy. empathy is important, it reminds us that we are never alone and there will and have always been others out there who have suffered and lived experiences in life similar to us, who understand us. it teaches us to forgive and respect that we aren't the only ones stricken by misfortune, as Tyr said.. Anyone can fall to darkness through misfortune, and it takes wisdom and vigilance to repel this darkness and become better versions of ourselves. i found my own light in life when i was ready to succumb to my sickness and leave this world. now, i have confidence, an identity, purpose, and the capacity for love and healing and i help others mend their own deep emotional wounds and seek their own path in life. we are but one individual existing adjacent to a billion others around us and we all want to find happiness and fulfillment.
@@dantesonofsparda9355i honestly can't give you an answer cause during my 20+ hours of playthrough i just blindly do every labor, mission, mastery and opening every chest in the sanctuary and the next thing i know i've already unlocked all the armor sets and relics lol 😂
Rewatching God of War 4, I noticed the only reason Kratos killed Magni was because Atreus was acting recklessly and charged towards Modi. Kratos attempted to stopped his son, but was halted by Magni which of course made Kratos react quickly (and violently) so he could go back to protecting his son.
Though, I doubt Atreus acting responsibly would’ve changed the outcome of that fight. Like Heimdall, Magni & Modi seemed pretty hellbent on killing them.
Yes, the outcome would have not changed. As Kratos said, he was defending themselves. Neither Magnir nor Modi would have quit the battle without Kratos as an offering for Odin. Just like he tried to kill Baldur on their first encounter, Kratos would not have finished the fight with their defeat either.
Modi's death was completely preventable though. To be honest I think Modi was trying to die when he insulted Atreus. Imagine if they'd showed Modi mercy though, He might have been a useful ally.@@LeonColvet
@@hagamapamaI forget who it was, but I saw a CZcams video about how Modi is the only god who’s death we don’t actually see, we don’t see his corpse on the ground, or fading like Thor, meaning he could still be alive.
@@BiggusJakeus I think Thor's wife (forget her name) would have known if her son was alive. Norse gods are magic like that.
The point that Kratos is missing, and I think Valhalla is trying to get him to see, is that Magni and Modi aren't just what Atreus could have become. They're the exact same as Kratos himself - failed by their father (Thor and Zeus), sent to die by their uncle Baldur, or in Kratos' case his sister Athena, and belittled by their grandfather (Odin, Cronos), on top of being as rude, belligerent, savage and bloodthirsty as Kratos himself ever was.
Kratos bemoaning the fact that they had no chance from the very beginning and yet critically missing the fact that his situation mirrors theirs shows just how deep the hooks of his guilt have cut into him. If Magni and Modi were screwed from the outset, he was too.
As obsessed as Modi was about making Atreus his little pet, and calling Kratos' wife a whore, I'm surprised his death wasn't quicker and more gruesome. Even Magni at one point in the game was like "Dude, can you not?"
I respected Magni more because of that. If he had a chance to live, he probably would have done better
Modi was overcompensating for his inferiority in combat with his loud mouth.
But in Combat, it seems Modi the smarter one, using more tactics. Magni probably too confident with his strength, he fight more reckless
Not going to lie, I kind of wish we got to keep Magni’s Cyclonic Sword as a weapon in the game.
That last line is just perfect, explains perfectly why both Magni and Modi were more formidable in this fight than they were in God of War (they were good then but in Valhalla, they were harder) but hearing how Kratos wishes to remember them living more up to the potential they had but couldn't yet reach, is a very nice touch.
Modi i get, ges a prick, but Magni showed literally 0 poor qualities besides being overconfident to fight Kratos. Modi is the one shit-talking during the fight, Magni is just like "uh-huh, real funny stuff bro, now can we do the fighting now?"
For modi, his reasoning for being in kratos’ mind is yeah, because he’s a nightmare, but they are both explained to mainly be in Valhalla because they were relatable to kratos, they just never got a chance to be a better person whereas kratos did in the Norse saga, so he feels kind of bad for them all the time.
Magni was cruel, arrogant, and brutal. He just wasn't petty and spiteful like his brother.
@@danieldickson8591 In other words he was like young Kratos without the plot armor
@@danieldickson8591Basically he was a fierce warrior who enjoyed battle. What separates him from Modi is that he doesn’t lower himself to the same depravities as his brother. Basically he’s got some standards. I wouldn’t even call him that arrogant since he acknowledges Kratos strength and admits he’s having a challenge. Out of the two brothers, I’d say Magni had the most potential to grow better as a person.
The writing for this series a the way Christopher Judge delivered his lines is just…perfect!
fun fact: I actually said “Modi!” the same way and time Mimir did when he appeared
fun fact: you ARE mimir
Same
No part of that was fun
The tragedy of Magni and Modi is not only for them. But the fact their father also had a chance to change as well but Odin killed him before he could get that same chance.
It was so dumb how thor died…kratos was stabbed with gungnir lots of times is the same way as Thor but he brushed it off. And I am sure odin had every intention to kill kratos
@@nathanieljefferies5491Thor was already weakened from
Being beat up by Kratos, and before that he was already fighting Jormungandr and Ragnarök
@@nathanieljefferies5491To be fair, Thor was probably not only injured in the heart but also with some magic. He immediately vanished after being impale. Kratos might have regenerated after his wounds in the abdomen
@@LeonColvetplus kkratos is drastically stronger
@@nathanieljefferies5491kratos was only stabbed in the stomach bro 😂
I REALLY wish Kratos spoke more about his thoughts for Thor. Like.... he was a perfect reflection of Kratos and I feel like he's not really thought about after the game ends. Like that's THOR. The guy who caused A LOT of havoc throughout both games.
What really hammers this home is the fact that Kratos is the same as them😢:
* he suffered brutally as a spartan child
* was the spawn of a destroyer
* was sent to serve and die doing the bidding of another
I just noticed, the codex is like letters to Atreus, at least about his experiences in Valhalla, idk about the previous game since I haven't had the chance to play either.
"I know you (Atreus) still harbour much guilt over his (Modi) killing... as do I (Kratos)
i like to think that thor going back to drinking in ragnarok wasn't just because of odin's treatment
but also because of what kratos said to him about modi during their fight
hearing that your child died because of you must have affected even him
Thor was stupid enough to think modi would come back alive after a beating like that
@@unathisilo4941 or he was too smashed to realize just how badly he fucked Modi up
Glad to see them back.
Huh... Nice take on how he saw Atreus in those two, the Road Not Taken.
Fun fact: Magni and Modi were older than Baldur
RIP Magni ⛈️🗡️⛈️
So ill be honest when playing through this bit, i actually thought they were the real Magni and Modi because unlike the other mini bosses they didnt 'die' and dissapear after defeating them. That and i remebered mimir saying they would go straight to valahalla in 2018 or something to that effect
I thought so too, like Valhalla called on them to teach Kratos a lesson, and give them the fair fight Kratos believes would honor them much better than their lives.
Kratos is a poet
It's funny though, how Thrud seemingly forgot what Kratos and Atreus did to her brothers and half uncles
Didn’t thrud say “we’re better off without them?” Probably meaning she didn’t like her bros ?
@@oreothecookie3148She said "We are better off without him". Magni is barely remembered, even tho he was the "Golden boy"
@@TheWarchiefZekeJaegerBad writing I suppose
Ur taking that a bit out of context lol. It’s heavily implied she didn’t like them and she wants to impress Odin so that she can become a Valkyrie. And also can’t do anything to Atreus by Odins orders so she’s pretty much using him
Magni in truth was my favorite he was more honorable out of the two
I was curious about what Magni's "þrymja svipan" exclamation meant at 3:31 and it seems that it's something along the lines of "sudden thunder" or "swinging thunder."
Why is every video that I go to on this channel so God damn glitchy
Magni's death was a shame, he had a great design and his sword was badass.
Modi... Meh. Kinda obnoxious though that Thrud is this perfect little Mary Sue while Magni and Modi hardly has a redeeming trait between them
This is actually my favourite boss fight in the game for some reason I don’t know why theirs just something about it
3:51
Just missing Heimdall
I almost forgot got how short modi is
Can you battle them? Ive only fought them both once so i was wondering.
Kratos only killed magni not modi.
Atreus killed modi.
He still feels responsible for not stopping atreus
3:51 "Life may have put you on this path, but it was you who chose to continue walking it", Magni and Modi deserved to die, just like Baldur...and Freya knows it well.
To be honest Magi and Modi were the biggest pieces of work in all of existence i feel nothing for them.
Edit: i know they had a pretty crap upbringing due to their parents, but something in my gut tells me that if they were given the chance to change their ways and be better,they wouldn't have taken it.
Why people talks about Magni when the guy just wanted to do his job and fought head on? Modi was the one talking shit and running away.
It's only because Magni is more Blonde.@@TheWarchiefZekeJaeger
@@TheWarchiefZekeJaegerThe guy did taunt Atreus about his dead mother in front of him, all the while calling him a "freak". Modi might be the "all bark no bite" kind of guy but Magni was as despicable just because he said all those things.
That being said, fuck Odin for basically brainwashing both of them.
People who often express how they feel nothing for bad people, mostly lacks perspective and the will to understand how they even became bad people in the first place to even feel anything such as pity. Thus, unable to feel for them at all. Just because their reasons doesn't excuse their actions, doesn't mean I won't understand their situation enough not to feel bad for the both of them because I can indeed understand how bad and cruel it is to be raised harshly, abused by your parents, and hence, becoming the biggest pieces of work or brats in all existence afterwards due to bad influence, who also lived just to take orders and fight, then die, and get mocked at after their deaths by people who express how they feel nothing for them. What chance did they have? Their life didn't give them an opportunity to ever become better people, and died too early to ever experience that opportunity. After hearing Magni and Modi's backstory, a perfect example of Brats with Untold Horrible Backgrounds, I can only say that people who say they feel nothing for them are mostly those who are ignorant of other's backgrounds and have a disregard of other people's emotions while freely expressing theirs about what they feel and think about them as they judge them for their flaws and still think they're the good guys for mocking at them for being the worst when they faced defeat or even after death which doesn't make it any better. Sometimes I feel like the Innocent or most ordinary people, will get the opportunity to be the biggest pieces of work in all of existence to insult and to mock other people good or bad when they think they can get away with it just because they've done nothing wrong themselves or anything bad enough to ever be called as bad people, and will judge and criticize someone who actually is one, and not themselves.
@@Jo-Wilbe-Dina To truly understand peoples who were abused, you must know what it is to be abused. It's hard to understand a pain and the thought that came from it when you haven't experienced it yourself. I was abused by a teacher when i was 8/9, beaten, grounded for no reason, put away from my friends... I'm 31 years old today and the scars don't hurt me as much as before but i still have traumas. My family don't understand why it still influence my life today and think i should have moved on decades ago. They don't understand because they never experienced it.
All in all, i don't reproach peoples not to understand and i'm actually glad they don't. But i would like very much that they do remember that they don't know what it is to endure this and to have to live with it.
The man in me can understand the tradegy of these 2 characters and see that never got a chance to be better men.
But the gamer in me is triggered by all the frustration these 2 put me through in 4 and wants their heads on a pike.
Why does all of thors children inherit his lighting abilities and strength but literally no other Gods work the same way? I guess when Atreus is an animal that’s his version of rage but in thors case, his children have the EXACT same power not a variation of it. Atreus also has unique powers to kratos and doesn’t inherit any god strength. We see him do the healing thing kratos can but all gods can do that it would seem?
Magic
Kratos didn't inherit Zeus's lightning either. He was given that power in GOW1 but lost it in GOW2.
Modi and Magni are gods. Kratos is demigod. Loki is part god, part human, part giant.
@@adorp I thought Kratos was categorised as a full god nowadays thou?
Atreus got the rage ability from kratos but it just took a different form. I’m guessing that powers have to do with upbringing. Kratos just hid all is powers except his anger from Atreus so that’s the one he inherited. Same with Thor, he kept using lighting around his children so they got it. I’m just guessing it’s gotta be to do with the environment they grew up in. Not at all lore accurate but just my guess.
It's not really them that's making the lightning powers, it's their weapons and gear, Magni sword and big necklace, and Modi's club and shield and belt
Modi was always the least favorite. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that his actions were a result of that.
Let's be fair. Modi was already on deaths door from what Thor did to him. Killing him in battle at least allowed him to go into Vallhalla. Otherwhise he would end up in Hellheim.
I think gods go to Valhalla no matter what, I just think maybe Valhalla purposefully made it so Kratos wouldn't encounter any of the other gods he killed, just so that they wouldn't "get in the way". Thats my guess
who did he mean by their uncle? I am bit lost at the moment so sorry:D
Baldur is their Uncle.
magni was stronger but died faster that modi lol
Maybe because Magni focused more on attacking than defending. lol
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There was an error in story regarding Modi and Magni. I don't understand how their deaths was impactful on Thor's life, I know they are his sons but he was abusing them constantly - it must be about caring for someone or something valuable after you lose it and realize it's importance, but that prospective was hardly implied in the story. if Thrud was the one to die, it would have been more logical to be impactful, since Thor loved her and she loves him.
Even this conflict between Thor and Kratos, which Thor always reminded him of, was never brought in the final battle between them.
God of war Ragnarok story is the worst compare to the Greek one, there are many stupidites that was made yet I never seen someone.
He didnt abuse them, he beat modi up for running away like a coward after magni was killed, thor wasnt abusing them , no error in the story you just didn’t pay attention all tht well
@@dredollaz1585 You pay attention to the video, Kratos said in his diary he was abusing them.
@@thecosmiccube8178 doesnt matter what kratos said, he wasnt there with them, it was never stated tht they were abused
@@thecosmiccube8178 kratos only said tht bc modi went back to them after thor beat him
@@dredollaz1585In reality he did abuse his son's, Mimir explains that they were raised the same way how Odin raised Thor, physically and verbally, with the results: mindless, cruel, barbaric and stupid, Sif wasn't different from them either until their deaths. Kratos saw part of himself in them, obviously he will feel guilty, even for dumbasses like them.