Feeling a bit envious of you, Honda AUS have dropped the jazz which is a shame as this new model is way better than yaris or mazda2. Great review again mate, I really enjoy your work
I bought one of these today. Test drove Yaris Cross,CHR etc but this just blew me away. Only reason I can think of for them not bringing them in is they'll steal market from other Honda models
Yeah with the rebate scheme now absolutely... crosstar will probably disappear from the market in due course coz it doesn't have a rebate but the others do for some reason
Some clarification on the "eCVT" transmission in the hybrid version: When you boot it and it sounds like it's going through the gears, and in around-town driving when the battery needs charging, the engine will run but is only directly connected to the motor/generator, which in turn provides electrical power (via the inverter) to help drive the primary electric motor, and to top up the battery; the going through the gears sound is just there to sound familiar and "sporty." Over around 100 km/h the engine also runs (always connected to the the motor/generator) but now disengages a clutch to directly engage the final drive, and the wheels, via an overdrive gear. So in summary: There are no belts and cones and hydraulics in the classical variable ratio CVT sense. The primary electric motor is directly connected to the final drive and always runs, the motor/generator is directly connected to the engine - and runs with the engine to help drive the primary electric motor, and to top up the battery; and the engine is only ever connected to the final drive when cruising. How about reverse? The primary electric motor simply runs backwards.
Thanks for this, however you are talking about the European market car. Our NZDM models use a totally different drivetrain that is more in line with the 9th gen accord hybrid, rather than the i-mmd drive of the crv hybrid you're talking about here
@@ilko625 do you live in new Zealand and have you driven the jazz from our market? Clearly not. I literally work at Honda selling these cars so please don't challenge me. Just because it has the same badge does not mean it's the same car. Like the ep3, jdm type r and ukdm type r had totally different engines, still called a type r
I want the off road concept of the Crosstar they showed off brought to the USA, but add a all wheel drive system that's just like the one in the Jeep Renegade trailhawk.
@@KiwiCarLife probably referring to the moose test, it fails before 80km which performed exceptionally comparing to other vehicles. Toyota is notorious for failing moose tests on their modern vehicles in normal road speed, most notably the RAV4.
Hey with your time at Honda I'm curious what you think of the handling between all the different generations of Honda Jazz/Fit when pushed. Id be interested in your comparisons
2nd gen sport with 1.5 and 5at is still my favourite. Best sounding engine too. But objectively as a driver's car, the 3rd gen facelift RS with the 6mt is the best. Engine doesn't sound too great, but it looks the best, has the best features and is actually genuinely quick
Congrats, excellent video! If you get out of the Jazz and noticed that one or windows are not closed, can you do it from the outside, without getting into the car?
Mate, going back to the accord 6 speed trans mod. How much did it cost you to source and replace the gearset on your CL9? I drool over your CL9... Cheers!
Why not test drive the GP5 hybrid version and compare? You can test mine. Also, how about the new yaris hybrid ZR and compare it with the new jazz hybrid?
Feeling a bit envious of you, Honda AUS have dropped the jazz which is a shame as this new model is way better than yaris or mazda2. Great review again mate, I really enjoy your work
Cheers man
Yep, same scenario in the Philippines. City hatchback now; decent but slightly worse proposition than the Jazz perhaps.
I bought one of these today. Test drove Yaris Cross,CHR etc but this just blew me away. Only reason I can think of for them not bringing them in is they'll steal market from other Honda models
pretty impressive how fast the e:HEV lux is. Also, the CVT simulated gear changes are much more inspiring on the hybrid as opposed to the JAZZ Life.
Yeah for sure
Just about to Purchase my First Car a Jazz eHEV Lux up in Auckland, Excited!
Nice! That's a pretty fancy first car
Finally I found somebody tell me I can drive without hand with cruise control. I did tried it earlier, I thought I was wrong..thanks mate.
All good
Good review. With rebate in NZ of 4.2k you kinda get the Lux for free over other models
Yeah with the rebate scheme now absolutely... crosstar will probably disappear from the market in due course coz it doesn't have a rebate but the others do for some reason
Some clarification on the "eCVT" transmission in the hybrid version: When you boot it and it sounds like it's going through the gears, and in around-town driving when the battery needs charging, the engine will run but is only directly connected to the motor/generator, which in turn provides electrical power (via the inverter) to help drive the primary electric motor, and to top up the battery; the going through the gears sound is just there to sound familiar and "sporty." Over around 100 km/h the engine also runs (always connected to the the motor/generator) but now disengages a clutch to directly engage the final drive, and the wheels, via an overdrive gear.
So in summary: There are no belts and cones and hydraulics in the classical variable ratio CVT sense. The primary electric motor is directly connected to the final drive and always runs, the motor/generator is directly connected to the engine - and runs with the engine to help drive the primary electric motor, and to top up the battery; and the engine is only ever connected to the final drive when cruising. How about reverse? The primary electric motor simply runs backwards.
Thanks for this, however you are talking about the European market car. Our NZDM models use a totally different drivetrain that is more in line with the 9th gen accord hybrid, rather than the i-mmd drive of the crv hybrid you're talking about here
@@KiwiCarLife if it is the e:HEV version definitively direct drive or fixed-gear if you like at high speed and no conventional CVT box in there!
@@ilko625 do you live in new Zealand and have you driven the jazz from our market? Clearly not. I literally work at Honda selling these cars so please don't challenge me. Just because it has the same badge does not mean it's the same car. Like the ep3, jdm type r and ukdm type r had totally different engines, still called a type r
Excellent review, we drove the Luxe Hybrid last week and was super impressed, now crunching numbers to see if we can upgrade our gen 3 RS.
Nice man! Would recommend
I think the old looks better. But that was a good style era. The accord back then look unique too.
True
Great intro to these three cars, thanks! Subscribed :)
Cheers man!
I want the off road concept of the Crosstar they showed off brought to the USA, but add a all wheel drive system that's just like the one in the Jeep Renegade trailhawk.
Uhh you do realise the crosstar is not even close to being an off road car? It’s literally just to make it easier to get in and out of
@@KiwiCarLife weather it was the base jazz or the crossstar Honda showed off a off road concept. I like it.
Loving your videos, editing and all your work keep it up mate
Cheers man
I'm sorry but the previous model looks so much better... this thing looks like a fish... I like the interior though
Yeah agreed
I like the old Jazz but the new one looks great as well!
Yeah agree
Man I would love a crz style manual hybrid jazz type S with slightly stiffer and more focused suspension.
That would be cool
they made one if you weren't aware alreadyh- GE8 Hybrid RS 6mt (crz drivetrain+trans in a lighter package)
Great vid as always. Will there be a Jazz RS MT or has Honda completed axed the MT for NZ?
Cheers, no manual this time. I'm secretly holding out for a 1.5T Jazz Type R!
@@KiwiCarLife honda completey ditched the manual on the Jazz/Fit for all markets
instead they have the manual City hatchback in some markets instead
My guy, your videos are fire. Keep it up, bro!
Thanks man
I prefer the looks of the 2018 Jazz. Great car for the missus.
Mmmm yeah agreed it's not the greatest looking
Great video! Which NZ Hondas are made in Japan? All? Unlike Aus where all bar Odyssey and CTR are Thai built.
Odyssey and Jazz are Japanese built, Type R is UK built, Civic, CR-V and HR-V are Thai built.
more cd5 content pls.... craving
Got some on the way!
Previous model had crazy score on 77kmh handling test.
What's the handling test?
@@KiwiCarLife probably referring to the moose test, it fails before 80km which performed exceptionally comparing to other vehicles. Toyota is notorious for failing moose tests on their modern vehicles in normal road speed, most notably the RAV4.
Hey with your time at Honda I'm curious what you think of the handling between all the different generations of Honda Jazz/Fit when pushed. Id be interested in your comparisons
2nd gen sport with 1.5 and 5at is still my favourite. Best sounding engine too. But objectively as a driver's car, the 3rd gen facelift RS with the 6mt is the best. Engine doesn't sound too great, but it looks the best, has the best features and is actually genuinely quick
Congrats, excellent video! If you get out of the Jazz and noticed that one or windows are not closed, can you do it from the outside, without getting into the car?
Not sure, at a guess not. Maybe on the luxe model? I'd have to try
@@KiwiCarLife Thanks, please do it. Cheers.
The Previous generation Jazz RS is far quicker than you stated. In two seperate tests NZ Autocar have recorded an 8.85 & 8.99 0-100kph time.
Thats the manual one. I timed the manual one in 9.0s. Cvt is over 10
@@KiwiCarLife the 8.85 was the manual one in a comparison with the Baleno. The 8.99 was the auto during a comparison with the new Yaris.
@@KiwiCarLife www.nzautocar.co.nz/car-reviews-app/toyota-yaris-zr-vs-honda-jazz-rs-nz-specification-road-test-review-comparison-2020
i thought the luxe version got a orange brown leather seats as shown in the webpage????
It does, but only on the grey one. All the other exterior colours have the black interior
@@KiwiCarLife thanks for the info. Is the e Hev got discount from the clean car programme?
@@user-rm4hj8mx9f That only applies to EV's at the moment. It will apply to the e:HEV come next year
my word, these are gorg
Mmmm
Mate, going back to the accord 6 speed trans mod. How much did it cost you to source and replace the gearset on your CL9? I drool over your CL9... Cheers!
Cheers man, was 1500 for the gears, 500 for the labour
Why not test drive the GP5 hybrid version and compare? You can test mine. Also, how about the new yaris hybrid ZR and compare it with the new jazz hybrid?
We never got the GP5 hybrid here NZ new, but if you've got one I'd be keen to film a comparison!
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I wish we got these in Australia.
Mmm yeah was surprised aus turned them down! It's just NZ, Japan, China and europe that gets them now
@@KiwiCarLife the way things are going here I don’t think Honda will stick around. 🤦♂️
Hmmm
Is crosstar available for sale as second hand car?
Not yet, maybe in 6 months time
Egg is present
HAHAHA
Sad it’s not coming to india
Yeah doesn't seem to be on its way to many places this time around
do you guys get the 4wd models in NZ?
Nah
I think the old one looks better
Yeah does a bit...
New jazz looks like a Honda Logo. Not very appealing at all. Seen it in person at the dealership and I wasn't impressed
Yeah can agree it's not the most exciting looking car. Let's hope they bring out a sporty model!
We have no alternative if we want to drive a crosstar than to buy a second hand car as these are nt
Bother
I personally don’t like the 2021 jazz
Yeah I get that - I personally think it looks better in person, however it could have been better...
Where in NZ is this filmed?
U tryna spy on me g
Nah jk, Wellington
Thought it look like Welli 🌧 💨 😂
@@needleontherecord u know it
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