Test du Timemore Chestnut S3 en espresso
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- Découvrez le Timemore Chestnut S3 : parfait pour les méthodes de café douces, mais moins adapté pour l'espresso. Explorez en détail ses caractéristiques, ses avantages, ainsi que ses contraintes.
Trouvez l'article de mon blog associé à cette vidéo à cette adresse : www.coffeegeek.fr/test-du-tim...
0:00 Introduction
0:46 Contenu de la boite
1:26 Design du moulin
5:00 Démonter le Timemore Chestnut S3
8:25 Défauts du moulin à café
10:35 Temps nécéssaire pour moudre un espresso
12:20 Faire un espresso avec le Timemore Chestnut S3
To summarize the email exchanges I had with Timemore, they explain that the S3 was designed for pour-over, but it is also possible to make espresso with it, provided that enough coffee is used. However, based on my observations during attempts to make espresso, it seems that perhaps an additional 10g of coffee is needed to use the grinder correctly. In conclusion, I think that the S3 is equipped with a burr very well designed for coarse grinding (for pour-over), but less suitable for fine grinding (espresso). Moreover, the grinder has burrs that are too far apart in the 0 position, which leads to under-extraction in espresso.
I bought this grinder because it‘s being advertised as „suitable for espresso“. It‘s still on its way, but now I‘m considering returning it without even opening the box… :(
I was very disappointed too. but don't worry, there are plenty of other hand grinders that are really good. Look at the side of the Kingrinder K4 for example.
Each click improved to only 15 microns, but then 00 is to coarse for espresso!
Great Review and thank you dearly for pointing that out 🙏
@@hugoapresname Thank you :). You summarize the situation well. Initially, I thought I had a defective grinder. But since then, other tests have yielded the same results as mine. And I even found an online ad for selling this used grinder with the seller explaining that they had bought it for espresso but they can't manage to make it with it. It's really a shame because the grinder is beautiful. It could have been perfect but Timemore completely missed the mark in designing their grinder poorly.
I purchased the S3 and I don't like it. It only has 10 clicks for espresso. I used it with 3 types of coffee beans and on the finest grind size it is still not fine enough. Coffee (30grams) runs in 12-14 seconds. Way too fast.
Next to this, the grip of the grinder is awful. And the exterior is hard to clean.
Be aware: not suitable for good espresso!!
Thanks for your review, i think ai just made my mind for the kingrinder k4 wich is specifically made for espresso
Yes, the kingrinder k4 is a good choice :)
Super vidéo merci.
Que me conseillerais-tu comme moulin manuel où électrique pas cher pour avoir une moulure assez fine pour faire un bon expresso ?
Merci
Pour résumer les échanges de mails que j’ai eus avec Timemore, ils expliquent que le S3 a été conçu pour le pour-over, mais qu’il est également possible de faire de l’espresso avec, à condition de mettre suffisamment de café. Cependant, d’après mes observations lors de tentatives d’espresso, il semblerait qu’il faille ajouter peut-être 10g de café pour utiliser le moulin correctement. En conclusion, je pense que le S3 est doté d’une meule très bien conçue pour la mouture épaisse (pour le pour-over), mais moins adaptée pour la mouture fine (espresso). De plus, le moulin présente des meules trop écartées en position 0, ce qui induit une sous-extraction en espresso. www.coffeegeek.fr/test-du-timemore-chestnut-s3/
What grinder do you prefer? Timemore s3 or kingrinder k6?
De fait, ce moulin possède probablement le meilleur rapport qualité-prix pour la plupart des moutures hors expresso. Pour ma part, ma machine à café ne va pas au delà de 4 bars et j'en suis très content. Pour les espressos, je recommanderais (sans l'utiliser au quotidien) le Kinu M47, mais pour un budget doublé (+- 350€)
Le Timemore S3 est un excellent choix pour les méthodes de préparation hors espresso. Cependant, il est surprenant de constater que Timemore n'a pas optimisé ce modèle pour l'espresso. Avec ses atouts indéniables - un design, une prise en main confortable, une facilité de démontage, une grande précision et un prix très compétitif - il aurait pu s'imposer pour les moulins espresso. Malheureusement, mes échanges avec Timemore suggèrent que ce modèle, tel que je l'ai reçu, est dépourvu de défauts et a été conçu principalement pour le pour-over.
En revanche, pour les moulins à main adaptés à l'espresso, d'autres marques offrent des alternatives intéressantes et plus abordables que le Kinu M47. Le Kingrinder K4, par exemple, se distingue par son rapport qualité-prix exceptionnel. Plusieurs modèles de 1Zpresso, spécialement dédiés à l'espresso, sont également à considérer. Certains de ces modèles utilisent la même meule que le Kinu M47. Le moulin Apollo de BPlus, équipé lui aussi de la meule du Kinu M47, se positionne dans la même gamme de prix et mérite une attention.
I've got a Timer S3 hand grinder for coffee, but there is an unexpected problem it can't grind my coffee fine enough for espresso/cezve, so now I'm looking to upgrade it for a finer coffee grind. What accessories or modifications are available specifically for this hand grinder to achieve a thinner coffee grind?
Thanks for video!
dude are you planning to post this under every S3 video? there is nothing you can do. the s3 is not right for you then.
@@JamesSmith-kv8js I have the same issue. Timemore want to take back the grinder but they won't pay pack everything I paid for. Because I used it. Yes, ofcourse. Only after I used it I found out that is is not suitable for espresso. But they promise is can be used for espresso. So not only a bad grinder for espresso but also very bad after sales from Timemore. So I can inderstand that @nazikputyak8857 mentions this at every S3 video.
Hi Man, you can use a shim. There is a fix about on the reedit forums.
Would you say the kingrinder k6 is better, if you have tried it? I cant decide between them.. i do mostly pour overs, price of the s3 is a tiny bit lower here..
I ordered an S3, not sure when it's coming but I really liked the cheap C2 and C3 from Timemore so I'm expecting the S3 to be even better, ill know soon hopefully! I had the K Plus from 1zPresso and it's supposed to have the same burrs as the K6. I wasn't into pour overs as much back then but it was a good grinder too. Now they have the XPro which is similar and cheaper I think.
@@BensCoffeeRants hmmm well i heard the S3 got problems with grinding to espresso size.. but i dont drink espresso, i dont have an espresso machine. so i cant test that grinding issue..
but maybe i want to grind espresso size in the future lol 😄so i might actually return the S3, bc otherwise i would have to buy another grinder then right? #firstworldproblems
@@framo_official Yeah I saw in this video saying that theirs wouldn't go fine enough for a traditional espresso shot, (another video showed theirs ground pretty finely looked powdery enough to be used for espresso!) but either way, that's fine for me I'm not planning on using it for espresso except maybe to test it out and see how it does. BUT I'd recommend an electric grinder for espresso, hand grinders are best for pour over, much easier that way ! Also nice to have two grinders and not switch one back and forth to very different settings for different brew methods.
K6 is probably the better choice if you did want to use it for espresso and pour overs, but I think for pour overs you'll get better results with The Timemore S3 or maybe 1Zpresso XPro.
@@BensCoffeeRants okay! Thank you for the advice!! 😊😊
How do you like it? I bought this product but its coming in February. I'm excited to get into this hobby lol
The results I obtained with my espressos prepared using the S3 were astonishing. Timemore seems to have misadjusted the burr spacing on the "zero" setting, (that is, the minimal adjustment with the top and bottom knobs), making it impossible to grind fine enough for espresso. Two explanations are possible:
Either the Timemore S3 is designed so that the burrs, even at the zero setting, are spaced apart to avoid damage, but in this case, the spacing is excessive. Usually, I use 16 g of coffee for my espressos, and with other grinders, I haven't encountered a problem. With the S3, even at the finest setting, the grind remains too coarse, leaving the only solution to increase the amount of coffee to obtain an espresso. Even then, the adjustment range will be too limited. The S3 does not seem ideal for espresso.
Or the grinder is defective.
So I contacted Timemore to ask for an explanation. I will put their response when I receive it.
But it's surprising because normally this grinder should work well for espresso.
Otherwise, I find it very pleasant to handle, really suited for slow extractions. There is a feeling of quality when manipulating it. I like it a lot, but unfortunately, I can't make espresso coffee with it.
@@coffeegeekfrance Oh that’s interesting. I’m gonna be making pour over coffee so I hope it’ll be enough. Thanks for your reply!
@@tommyhuynh9087 My pleasure. Don't hesitate to let me know how your coffee was :)
@@tommyhuynh9087 for pour over coffee this coffee grinder are perfect :) www.coffeegeek.fr/test-du-timemore-chestnut-s3/
@@coffeegeekfrance I read your blog post on the grinder, it was very well written
I purchased the S3 and I don't like it. It only has 10 clicks for espresso. I used it with 3 types of coffee beans and on the finest grind size it is still not fine enough. Coffee (30grams) runs in 12-14 seconds. Way too fast.
Next to this, the grip of the grinder is awful. And the exterior is hard to clean.
Be aware: not suitable for good espresso!!
Manivelle pliable chez aucune autre marque ??
Jsp où t’as trouvé cette info
Je peux te citer au moins 2 autres marques de renom donc citées dans tous les articles de top de qualité humm
Pardon chui un peu grognon hha… merci pour la vidéo sinon !
Aucune autre marque ne propose une manivelle rétractable de ce type. Certes, 1Zpresso a été contrainte d’en fabriquer suite à une plainte de C40, qui cherchait à les empêcher de commercialiser leurs moulins en Europe. Cependant, la manivelle rétractable qu’ils ont conçue est nettement moins convaincante que celle de Timemore. Bien que Timemore propose d’excellents produits, je dois avouer que ce moulin ne m’a pas convaincu pour l’espresso. C’est bien dommage.
@@coffeegeekfrance WoW mercii pr cette réponse !
TOUT S’EXPLIQUE c’est commandante alors qu’ils citent quand ils disent qu’ils ont des problèmes à cause d’une « entreprise malveillante » pour des accusations de contrefaçons ! 😂😂 je sais plus où j’ai trouvé ça mais sur leur site officiel jahah
@raf3850 Oui, il y a beaucoup de discussions sur Reddit à ce sujet. En gros, la plainte de C40 est comparable à une marque de voiture poursuivant d'autres marques parce qu'elles utilisent un volant rond.
Mais C40 ne s'en est pas pris qu'à 1Zpresso, ils ont aussi ciblé Kingrinder en signalant leurs produits sur Amazon comme des contrefaçons pour tenter de bloquer leurs ventes.
Des histoires similaires sont fréquentes dans le monde des moulins à café, et, d'après ce que je sais, les marques allemandes sont souvent à l'origine de ces conflits.
@@coffeegeekfrance hahaaa Pouah le cliché de la qualité allemande leur est tellement monté à la tête hahah