NBA Superstars Who Went From Being Heroes...To Villains

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  • čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
  • In this video, let's take a look at some superstars who entered the NBA with a very positive image, but eventually became the villain.
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Komentáře • 441

  • @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
    @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly Před rokem +644

    Reputation wise Karl Malone is like R Kelly and OJ Simpson combined

    • @GetBenched2010
      @GetBenched2010 Před rokem +1

      Black Republicans tend to get destroyed by the mainstream media for leaving the plantation.

    • @dylannunez4031
      @dylannunez4031 Před rokem +69

      Malone is despicable in every way. Hated seeing him on post game or half time shows on tv only like 7 years ago. Like what he did wasn’t already known

    • @nickth3many
      @nickth3many Před rokem +83

      Only difference is Karl Malone hasn’t answered for his crimes

    • @orlandowoodson7978
      @orlandowoodson7978 Před rokem +6

      OJ?

    • @SethKasso
      @SethKasso Před rokem

      OJ? Who did Karl murder?

  • @edwinvazquez4230
    @edwinvazquez4230 Před rokem +374

    LeBron James fit the description of being a "villain" in the NBA. When he joined the Miami Heat in The Decision, this Heat team with LeBron, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh was incredibly hated by the media and portrayed as villains. In typical villain fashion, the Heat dominated the regular season. The 2010-11 season ended very much like a movie; the villains were defeated in the Finals by an underdog Dallas Mavericks team.

    • @floridaloveclifton5175
      @floridaloveclifton5175 Před rokem +42

      Facts. It’s crazy how everyone booed the Heat just cause LeBron didn’t join their team and how much they’ve cheered for the Mavs when they defeated us in 2011. But yet didn’t booed Durant like that joining a stacked Warriors team that’s already good enough to defeat LeBron and the Cavs in 2017 again if they didn’t signed KD. All in all I’m glad LeBron joined Miami because it taught him to be a champion that lost against Dallas made him go beast mode the very next year.

    • @ProfRon-hb8zb
      @ProfRon-hb8zb Před rokem +4

      Please tell me how a 57 win team is considered underdogs

    • @randomyeatfan4509
      @randomyeatfan4509 Před rokem +45

      @@ProfRon-hb8zb No one expected them to get past the heats big three

    • @edwinvazquez4230
      @edwinvazquez4230 Před rokem +2

      @@ProfRon-hb8zb The Mavericks were clearly underdogs to the Miami Heat. The Heat were better by only one game, winning 58 games. However the Mavs came out with the victory.

    • @ethanma3916
      @ethanma3916 Před rokem +17

      @@edwinvazquez4230 don't forget that at the time, dirk had a reputation for choking, which contributed to the mavs underdog-ness

  • @ZioSerpe
    @ZioSerpe Před rokem +70

    I was surprised not to see Melo in this list. Everyone remembers Dwightmare, but Melo-drama seems to be forgotten despite Melo having egregious moments with Denver, NY (getting both D'Antoni and Jeremy Lin out) and even OKC ("Hey P, they say I gotta come off the bench!")
    Poor Dwight fucked up in Orlando, but in LA he player with an injury that should have kept him out the whole season, so that he would not disappoint the fans, and he still got hate. In Houston he got blamed for everything, but he was the one of the duo showing up in the playoff and keeping the team alive, not Harden and also we have now seen that Harden is the diva.
    Then in ATL and CHA teammates loved him, and finally when he got back to LA he did his best to be the best player he could be in his twilight years, losing weight and doing all the dirty work on defense.

    • @erickadame3153
      @erickadame3153 Před rokem +1

      The Jeremy Lin stuff to was out of jealousy and racism

  • @AROUNDTHEHOOP
    @AROUNDTHEHOOP Před rokem +286

    KD and Kyrie are the real NBA villains. That's why they're really good friends.

    • @woke49
      @woke49 Před rokem

      There just rebellious America hate it

    • @anjr9915
      @anjr9915 Před rokem +7

      such good friends that KD wants out now lmaoo

    • @TuNnL
      @TuNnL Před rokem +7

      @@anjr9915 I don't think Kevin Durant really wants out. Initially, he was just pissed the Nets refused to sign Kyrie to a new contract.
      But this off-season has given KD a chance to reflect, and it's clear he blames Steve Nash for getting swept. Steve's rotations were horrible and his in-game adjustments did not help.
      I'm pretty sure Sean Marks blames KD for insisting on signing DeAndre Jordan, who was a terrible signing for Brooklyn. Likewise, KD hates him back for trading half the team and a sh!tload of first round draft picks for James Harden, who turned out to be a less-than-a-year rental.
      Bottom line, both Kyrie and KD are definitely primadonnas, but they probably won't reach villain status until KD makes a scene at training camp. That's what you call "the point of no return." 💁🏻‍♂️🏀

    • @anjr9915
      @anjr9915 Před rokem +2

      @@TuNnL They for sure already reached "villain status" I think KD realized they aren't getting better while the Eastern conference keeps getting better around them and judging by KD's past actions, he is looking for a way out to a different team. It's safe to assume now KD wants it the easy way. Plus it's not easy playing with someone like Kyrie.

    • @TuNnL
      @TuNnL Před rokem

      @@anjr9915 yeah, you keep repeating that media narrative that somehow Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving aren't friends anymore, but there is zero evidence to support that. Like I wrote, the reason Durant asked for a trade so late in the game, was because Brooklyn refused to sign Kyrie to a new contract.
      In that sense, KD sees staying on the Nets as an uncertain proposition, being that the #2 guy on the team is playing his last season because the front office thinks they know better. Personally, I think the Sean Marks should throw KD a bone and fire Steve Nash.
      Nash clearly got worse at coaching the second year in, and it's obvious the reason is that Steve's assistants Ime Udoka and Mike D'Antoni left after the 2020-21 season. Those two guys were propping up an inexperienced head coach and he fell on his @ss in 2021-22. 💁🏻‍♂️🏀🤷

  • @abw1317
    @abw1317 Před rokem +207

    I can see Anthony Edwards or Lamelo being on this list depending on how their futures go. Everybody loves them now, but one move people disagree with and they're hated.

  • @GetBenched2010
    @GetBenched2010 Před rokem +26

    Shaq had more heel turns than Randy Orton and Lex Luger combined!

  • @TNT_Dray
    @TNT_Dray Před rokem +70

    "You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" - Harvey Dent

  • @egglordsasuke8532
    @egglordsasuke8532 Před rokem +26

    Kyrie's jumper is one of the smoothest I've ever seen, from mid, from 3pt range and from way beyond the 3pt line. He's more than just finishing.

    • @se7enzee444
      @se7enzee444 Před rokem

      Of course, Kyrie can do more than finishing. But it's his finishing ability with both hands that make him special.

  • @llptg1016
    @llptg1016 Před rokem +125

    What people don’t realize about KD was that despite Klay went off in game 6, the thunder still almost won that game but Russ had like 4 turnovers in the last minutes and completely threw the game away.

    • @jerodtabb311
      @jerodtabb311 Před rokem +29

      No excuses Thunder should have won that series 💯💪🤞🏼 💯

    • @cnb364126
      @cnb364126 Před rokem +58

      3-1 lead do not bring russell into this, him being on the team helped them get to a championship and 1 game away from finals idk how you can say it’s his fault they lost yet somehow no credit when they win. When they win it’s just bc of kd when they lose it’s only bc of westbrook how does that work?

    • @anshkaushik7920
      @anshkaushik7920 Před rokem +53

      Kd shooting 10/30 didn’t help either

    • @scutifr
      @scutifr Před rokem +4

      Klay and Steph just kept going back and forth

    • @anjr9915
      @anjr9915 Před rokem +15

      ofc you blame Russ, I watched the game, KD missed a few go ahead baskets that he could have made having the skill

  • @Randompersonfromnowhere
    @Randompersonfromnowhere Před rokem +37

    Couldnt agree more about Howard. A good amount of people really discredit him cause of his rep. He should easily be in the top 75 and easily a HoF off what he did with the Magics.

    • @brettreynolds1976
      @brettreynolds1976 Před rokem +3

      *Top 50

    • @bachnguyenviet4289
      @bachnguyenviet4289 Před rokem +1

      Kinda same thing with Lebron, people hated him so much that they kinda screwed him over. He could've been a DPOY and unanimous MVP in the same year. But he was one first place vote off because that guy was salty and voted for Carmelo and was robbed of DPOY, which would put that season by Lebron among the greatest seasons of all time.

  • @VincentVincent_89
    @VincentVincent_89 Před rokem +91

    Man I hate how weak minded KD is, only 2 playable seasons in Brooklyn and he already wants out meanwhile the front office has done everything has asked for and the worst part is the nets are a top 3 seed in the east since that’s what they were before KDs injury. Now he wants to be traded to a “championship contender” smh.

    • @kamilmusalat
      @kamilmusalat Před rokem

      Weak minded how you gonna play in the nba let us know what you accomplished? How about letting us know what you accomplished in life other than living in your moms basement? Please let us know
      Do you think if he was weak minded he’d be playing in the nba?

    • @larrylegend8446
      @larrylegend8446 Před rokem

      time is not rubber, he is getting old and will soon retire, he does not want to waste time on Brooklyn and win a few more titles , of course it looks comedic but I understand it

    • @TuNnL
      @TuNnL Před rokem +2

      @@larrylegend8446 it's all about timing. If Kevin Durant truly wanted to be traded, he should have said so as soon as the Brooklyn Nets got swept.
      Instead he waited all the way until June 30, after it became clear the Nets were not going to sign Kyrie Irving to a new contract. Durant really put Sean Marks in a tough spot, when he didn't have to, and he's hoping Marks and Steve Nash get fired so KD can avoid accountability again. 💁🏻‍♂️🏀

    • @Trejohnsmith
      @Trejohnsmith Před rokem +7

      Not only that my thing with KD request to be traded is he doesn’t stick things out when things get tough. That sole reason is why he isn’t viewed in the same light as Steph, Giannis, & LeBron. All three have saw the highs and the lows of each franchise and won titles. In Brons case he’s done it three times with three different franchises. Steph didn’t leave when GS lost to the Clippers in 2014 in a hard fought 7 games to join the Clippers in that off season, he didn’t leave or force himself off the team when GS won 15 games in 2020 with Klay out with an ACL injury, and he didn’t leave when they blew a 3-1 lead to Cleveland. Giannis stuck it out after losing to the Raptors in 6 in 2019, and the Heat in 5 after winning DPOY & MVP in the same season dude saw it through and got a chip the next year. Even Bron for as much hate as he gets he’s never requested a trade when shit was bad in Cleveland, or after the 2011 lost to Dallas, or even with the Lakers missing the playoffs twice in the four seasons there. Like Kobe said if you can win championships and have parades in front of the fans you better be able to lose in front of those fans.

    • @calamarichris4426
      @calamarichris4426 Před rokem

      Steve Nash sucks as a coach, that's why they aint winning shit

  • @Retiredhandle
    @Retiredhandle Před rokem +34

    Cleveland as an organization should’ve did more to surround LeBron the first stint

    • @aripo14
      @aripo14 Před rokem +4

      I honestly think that they do trying to do that, it’s just it’s so difficult to pull of. They don’t have a player worth trading for, with bron they never be bad enough to become a lottery team, sure they could try with free agents and cap space but I think back then there’s not much pieces available.

    • @williefaulker
      @williefaulker Před rokem +3

      The funny thing is they actually had a chance to get Amar'e, but they basically picked jj Hickson over him

    • @Whoever-tf
      @Whoever-tf Před rokem +1

      @@aripo14 i mean, they did have a 20 and 10 guy in Carlos boozer, but let him walk in free agency as restricted fa

    • @Retiredhandle
      @Retiredhandle Před rokem

      @@aripo14 I agree with you 100% which is why I said more instead of something along the lines of they did nothing but like the comments underneath, they could’ve had Boozer and beyond that they just settled for LeBron carrying them. It shows incompetence as an organization, the Spurs and Warriors draft well so teams can always find a way to do more. Anything else is a team doing the bare minimum for revenue or wasting their stars prime and talent.

    • @Retiredhandle
      @Retiredhandle Před rokem

      Bron, Boozer and Amare 🤦‍♂️

  • @YeeSoest
    @YeeSoest Před rokem +11

    I don't see KD's image going BACK ever again unless he carries a team of orphaned puppies to an undeafeated championship run

  • @leetorry
    @leetorry Před rokem +50

    Is there an opposite of this?
    Where the leagues villains became loved heroes?
    Also I heared that Malone harrased Kobe's gf, is that true?

  • @nicholasalexander9866
    @nicholasalexander9866 Před rokem +23

    Could you imagine if KD went to the Clippers, the Pelicans, or the Raptors or some other team? Like man even if they didn’t win a chip, they would’ve been fun to watch.

  • @wazzup233
    @wazzup233 Před rokem +21

    Honorable lists:
    1) Isiah Thomas of Detroit Pistons
    2) Kobe Bryant
    3) Ben Simmons

    • @mariofan2867
      @mariofan2867 Před rokem +3

      Why Kobe? That makes no sense, yes he had that beef with Shaq that reached a boiling point, but otherwise Kobe never showed any villainous behavior, he was just extremely competitive and stubborn to where he always wanted to be ahead of everybody at all times.

    • @nielcarpnava
      @nielcarpnava Před rokem

      4) Westbrook?

    • @cowbspogii699
      @cowbspogii699 Před rokem +1

      ​@@mariofan2867 hate to break it to you, but Kobe did something terrible on the summer of '03 plus the on-court drama that includes with it (wanting out LA, Loss to the Pistons, Being selfish.) He redeemed himself though in the later parts of his career by winning championships and being a hero and inspiration to all of us.

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 Před rokem +51

    KD didn’t have to do it man!! Listen, I’m sure we all know he probably wouldn’t have won in OKC but still!!!

    • @DaffyTaffy93
      @DaffyTaffy93 Před rokem +12

      They could’ve just retool the team again after trading Westbrook and some other pieces but oh well dude went out sorry.

    • @BigA678
      @BigA678 Před rokem +1

      There is no “but still” everyone hated him because he knew Westbrook wasnt it. Then when everyone was slow to find out they chose something new to hate

    • @91iamlegend
      @91iamlegend Před rokem +3

      @@BigA678 At the end he was right, westbrook is literally a barely above average player who hogged the ball like he was the second coming of Jordan...

    • @KingDayDayDay00
      @KingDayDayDay00 Před rokem +1

      That team was so good. Just couldn't outdo the competition. There were plenty of teams like that in the past. Twolves and plenty of times the Mavericks, Suns, and Rockets had crazy good teams that just couldnt go all the way.

    • @dwadeisthegoat2020
      @dwadeisthegoat2020 Před rokem +3

      I understand him leaving okc but going to the team that beat you rubs me the wrong way

  • @Jermaine2099
    @Jermaine2099 Před rokem +2

    Intro with the sad horns means it's gonna be 🔥 lol

  • @anjr9915
    @anjr9915 Před rokem +11

    Dwight and Russ don't deserve the scrutiny, and they are often disrespected by fans. Dwight should have made the 75 best players for sure.

    • @TuNnL
      @TuNnL Před rokem

      I think any disrespect towards Dwight Howard has faded, and many have actually appreciated his effort in recent years. Can't say the same for Russell Westbrook, who has always pushed back against fans, coaches, fellow players, the media and anyone else who doesn't see things his way.
      Westbrook has mostly been a selfish player who cares more about stats and money than winning basketball. I get it that the Brodie club is in love with his triple doubles of yesteryear.
      But Russ's style of play will never win an NBA championship. He is a "one-man show" and basketball is a TEAM sport. 💁🏻‍♂️🏀🏆

    • @anjr9915
      @anjr9915 Před rokem +1

      @@TuNnL Russ is a player who is a competitor, he has a drive to win, KG himself said he sees some of his own qualities in Russell Westbrook, Russ playstyle is not of a winning formula yes but to say he only cares about stats and money is ridiculous

    • @user-gm5gc1be4w
      @user-gm5gc1be4w Před rokem +2

      @@anjr9915 exactly. Russ cares about winning that’s why even on bad teams (2021 Wizards, 2017 Thunder) he played his hardest and played to win. I think that Russ can be too stubborn and hardheaded. He seems like a “I’ll do it myself” person. Which can come off as selfish at times

    • @anjr9915
      @anjr9915 Před rokem

      @@user-gm5gc1be4w well said

  • @lishtins
    @lishtins Před rokem +11

    Karl Malone was considered a huge hero before that story came out

  • @alphonsecatan2
    @alphonsecatan2 Před rokem +7

    Lebron could have had an easy transition to Miami if he hadn't made 'The Decision' interview. That interview and the fact that he promised Cavs a ring and embraced the GOAT status before proving anything on the big stage

    • @alexescutia4805
      @alexescutia4805 Před rokem

      To be fair he used the decision to raise money for the boys and girls club and he delivered on his promise

  • @ogveee
    @ogveee Před rokem +23

    The fact that Dwight didn't make the top 75 list is absurd... especially since AD made it

    • @MoralesCorner
      @MoralesCorner Před rokem +7

      Absolutely, his downfall was so big and quick, and he's been around for so long, people just forgot that he was a force for 8 seasons, not just a couple of years. Feel like people will give him his flowers some time after he's retired

    • @GreenlightBze
      @GreenlightBze Před rokem +4

      Dame made it over dwight's is crazy..

    • @skywalker2676
      @skywalker2676 Před rokem

      @@GreenlightBze ad shouldn’t even have been on the list not over Kyrie or Dwight or hell even klay

    • @Aburner960
      @Aburner960 Před rokem +1

      Ad deserved it hes easily a t75 player dwight is better sure but chillax

  • @brucelau2023
    @brucelau2023 Před rokem +1

    All right Andy Hoops Saturday’s YESSIR

  • @Boss-cj6zn
    @Boss-cj6zn Před rokem +7

    Ja Morant did a real good job of getting people to hate him in just one season. Like bro was threatening to murder people over some basketball, it was never that deep

    • @Jswizzle217
      @Jswizzle217 Před rokem +2

      The entire Grizzlies team did that. They went from a lovable up and coming team to obnoxious as hell in one playoff series.

  • @parkbahce100
    @parkbahce100 Před rokem +2

    Now we need 'Went from being villian to hero' video. But i can't think of anyone :)

  • @darkangels119
    @darkangels119 Před rokem +8

    LMAO “Karl truly showed age was just a number”

  • @RobertLewis85
    @RobertLewis85 Před rokem +16

    That first season with the Lakers really killed Dwight's image as a legend. It didn't help that he sucked in Houston too and even started injuring players purposely in the playoffs for a few years. I remember Klay Thompson was never the same during one playoff run after a dirty hit from Howard.

    • @trvspvrk
      @trvspvrk Před rokem +5

      He didn’t suck on the rockets tho what are u talkin about???

    • @blazeking1972
      @blazeking1972 Před rokem +1

      @@trvspvrk didnt "suck" but 13 and 10 on 32 min a game when he was supposed to be the second "superstar" alongside harden is bad. plus playoff dissaperances, gave nothing to houston

    • @juicejuice5013
      @juicejuice5013 Před rokem

      @@trvspvrk Aldridge cook Dwight on the Rockets

  • @pkfreeze175
    @pkfreeze175 Před rokem +7

    Lebron's The Decision made him the top heel we've ever seen in the NBA during a player's career.

  • @andreigarcia7106
    @andreigarcia7106 Před rokem +5

    Video idea - the fall of Dennis Schroder and montrez Harrell the top 2 sixth man of the year candidates in 2019-20 and are now not on any team

  • @morbiddawg
    @morbiddawg Před rokem +4

    That thumbnail says it all

  • @PereMarquette1223
    @PereMarquette1223 Před rokem +1

    That game when LeBron was in his first season back in Cleveland, and it was Kyrie Vs. Tony Parker… those two went OFF with their ball handling skills. It was crazy to watch.

  • @marcosmartinez8088
    @marcosmartinez8088 Před rokem

    10:29-10:32, man, i spitted my water.☠☠☠. You caught me off guard.😂😂😂

  • @FresHumbleNCool
    @FresHumbleNCool Před rokem

    Good video. I love this channel and Andy, but man after 4yrs. Of being a subscriber it’s time for some new background music

  • @lishtins
    @lishtins Před rokem +4

    Durant seems more of a villain recently than ever because people forget OKC was trading assets away because they wer assuming KD would leave. Now he has no reason to leave but he still wants to leave and find the easy route.

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 Před rokem +6

    They let Sexton wear 2!!! Disrespectful franchise for someone who is the second best player ever for your franchise!! He owed them nothing!!

    • @MoralesCorner
      @MoralesCorner Před rokem

      Do you think the cavs will eventually retire his jersey ?

    • @nikaoharbour6962
      @nikaoharbour6962 Před rokem

      Yeah that's why I dont want to hear that loyalty nonsense
      Like when Dan Gilbert wrote that slave master letter about Lebron

  • @kl2389
    @kl2389 Před rokem +9

    Most people forgot that weeks before KD left OKC made some moves acquiring Oladipo and rookie Domantas Sabonis.

  • @cameronnorth4992
    @cameronnorth4992 Před rokem

    Ahh nothin like having a good cheeseburger and fries and Andy Hoops post so I can enjoy my lunch.

  • @lazydadsgarage
    @lazydadsgarage Před rokem +3

    Crazy I had never heard of that part of Karl Malone's past before today. I was never a Jazz fan in the 90s but to me he was always regarded as one of the best players in the league

  • @yshrha10
    @yshrha10 Před rokem +2

    This was a great list. I totally forgot about Karl.

  • @StreetsAhead120
    @StreetsAhead120 Před rokem +11

    KD turning heel is long term booking

  • @kohsmoger1567
    @kohsmoger1567 Před rokem +5

    You should add Ben Simmons to this list

  • @AirRusher1992
    @AirRusher1992 Před rokem +21

    KD definitely fit in this video quite well.

  • @yoshiki.g1450
    @yoshiki.g1450 Před rokem +5

    K.D took the most easiest way out to get rings. No one can deny this.

  • @mikelin2703
    @mikelin2703 Před rokem +1

    Kevin Durant is a classic introvert. When he's quiet and didn't talk that much, people consider him polite and nice. Yet when he opens his mouth and start to state his opinions, all these years of bottled up emotions and frustrations come out and all of a sudden he becomes this whiny, bitter jerk. I know because I was (and still am) an introvert and for a while I was just like that.

  • @TheHezzii
    @TheHezzii Před rokem +1

    Andy Hoops content is hella underrated, keep up the good work & you’ll hit that Milly in no time.. 👏

  • @jayherbogaming
    @jayherbogaming Před rokem +9

    LeBron is the perfect example of this

  • @deondrecarter153
    @deondrecarter153 Před rokem +3

    Vince Carter should be on this list! How can you not forget what he did to Toronto

    • @GarkKahn
      @GarkKahn Před rokem

      He can also be on a future redemption list

  • @ruffgook
    @ruffgook Před rokem +1

    i would put gilbert arenas on that list. coming from 2nd round pick, becoming one of the best player in the league and then ruined his image with the locker room incident with guns.

  • @deanespinosa6399
    @deanespinosa6399 Před rokem

    andy hoops my idol

  • @sleepy40
    @sleepy40 Před rokem +3

    You should do Westbrook also. Beloved in OKC and hated in LA now for one season he played bad lol.

  • @nbapbaupdate8338
    @nbapbaupdate8338 Před rokem +1

    Rajon Rondo next video Andy Hoops 🙏🙏🙏

  • @theophilusjones6024
    @theophilusjones6024 Před rokem

    😂 your Karl Malone joke, I saw it coming 😂😂

  • @bahahaba
    @bahahaba Před rokem +4

    I do think the cavs should of done better to help lebron in his 1st stint but the way he left definitely made people hate him

  • @aldenencluna6409
    @aldenencluna6409 Před rokem

    Nice.

  • @chanendlerbong
    @chanendlerbong Před rokem +3

    Paul George and Russell Westbrook should be on this list too

    • @Rieky22
      @Rieky22 Před rokem +1

      Why Paul George??

    • @Earl_TheSquirrel
      @Earl_TheSquirrel Před rokem

      Paul George? No lol

    • @chanendlerbong
      @chanendlerbong Před rokem

      @@Rieky22 cuz of his playoff performances in last 4 years, except for his 2021 postseason

    • @bahahaba
      @bahahaba Před rokem

      @@chanendlerbong Having bad playoff performances doesn't mean your a villain

  • @lukegilbert7985
    @lukegilbert7985 Před rokem +2

    This was such an awesome video, all you takes are spot on. A true NBA fan with exceptional taste! Additionally For KD and Kyrie it's gotten so bad that recently I've known casual basketball fans that won't even consider buying their sneakers. As Lebron moves past Kareem in the NBA All time scoring more and more pundits and fans will support his position as GOAT.
    His legacy of team moves (and that time Super Mario stuffed his game winner at MSG) will remind us all that the real GOAT won 6 from 6 in Chicago.

  • @kennycai8695
    @kennycai8695 Před rokem

    I'd put DeMarcus Cousins in the same category, cause had he actually won a championship, this would have set an awful precedence throughout all of sports.
    For context, in his prime, Cousins was an All-Star level center, if he did not let his temper get in the way. However, cause of injury concerns, his value in the free agency market kind of dipped, which is understandable why teams were slow to sign him. That is, until he chose to sign a cheap 1 year deal with the Golden State Warriors, the same Warriors team that already had Curry, Green, Thompson AND Durant. Not only did he devalue the market, but by joining a very stacked Warriors team, it was obvious he was hoping to tag along with a superteam (and get an easy ring) while he rehabbed.
    Had this Warriors team won with an All-Star lineup, can you imagine how this would have affected free agency markets elsewhere? This is a major "poisoning of the well" moment, tempting athletes to take pay cuts, form superteams with friends on contenders, win a championship, and then cash out. Whatever parity that had existed would have been destroyed overnight all for the idea of an "easy ring". Although Cousins failed, the fact that he did not want to put in effort and hoped to just bandwagon on the Warriors to success paints him in a villainous light.

  • @Theterminato2013
    @Theterminato2013 Před rokem

    In a way, Kyrie Irving’s career is becoming similar to Stephon Marbury’s Nba career. They both burned their bridges with multiple teams with their off court drama. At least, Marbury eventually matured a bit and became a legend in China winning multiple CBA titles with the Beijing Ducks.

  • @_will795
    @_will795 Před rokem +3

    Karl Malone bit had me dead lol

  • @yeeps119
    @yeeps119 Před rokem

    Need a top 10 dpoy seasons video

  • @splashman-7563
    @splashman-7563 Před rokem

    ty

  • @ShowTymeDollarS850
    @ShowTymeDollarS850 Před rokem +1

    I do notice any team Bron joined.. good players kinda fell back 2 much assuming he would carry the load all the way

  • @jamesbeachem2003
    @jamesbeachem2003 Před rokem

    Simply put he was villianized because he joined not just another team but a stacked team that humiliated him(losing a 3-1 lead). He wasn't even happy there, they to push him to be tougher.

  • @B88
    @B88 Před rokem +1

    All sports hero's are Villan's to someone as well 😊👍

  • @djdiggerjonez4063
    @djdiggerjonez4063 Před rokem +1

    What about guys that started as Villians or Losers and became Heros or at least a breathe of fresh air?

  • @ruffprophetproductions

    Calling Kyrie a modern day AI is accurate, for the good AND the bad. If you remember, Andy, (I believe you also made a video describing it) Allen was picked apart by the media. For his stance on practice, how he dressed and wore his hair, his play style.. all of it. Steven A even recalls writing a story that was negative about him.
    The difference is, for whatever reason, AI was still revered by fans and players alike.
    Kyrie isn’t. It’s weird lol I don’t really see them as different. I guess “loyalty” is sooooo important nowadays (even tho dame gets torn apart for staying loyal all the time)

  • @maliekjcksn
    @maliekjcksn Před rokem +5

    K.D. is and has been an exceptional athlete throughout the years. Let's not forget that he sent LeBron home empty handed twice in the championship and picked up 2 Finals MVPs.

    • @dominiquepitts9125
      @dominiquepitts9125 Před rokem +2

      Well when you have Steph Curry and Klay Thompson playing along with you it makes it easier

    • @MPT4LYF
      @MPT4LYF Před 8 měsíci

      I see. You're a warriors fan. I give you that rings your organization and city deserves that. Because they're good in making basketball decisions. That's why kd saw the opportunity to win easily. But don't get lost to the point that kd supposedly win the right way giving his superstar status. Him and bron are softies no matter how you look at it, the difference is bron delivered a promise to his hometown and win 2 or 3 seasons after switching teams.

  • @sphrt2742
    @sphrt2742 Před rokem

    10:29 bruh LMFAOO

  • @lrkcm373
    @lrkcm373 Před rokem

    Y’know the saying “You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain,” well for LeBron, he’s been in the league so long that he’s done the cycle twice. Started out the hero of Cleveland, then the Miami villain, then back to the hero of Cleveland while simultaneously being the villain of the Eastern Conference, then the hero of LA and then the villain of LA for his LeGM moves.

  • @dbsuper2928
    @dbsuper2928 Před rokem

    KD embraced the internet.. now if he did right or not is a question but him having burners is one of the best things about KD

  • @nbapbaupdate8338
    @nbapbaupdate8338 Před rokem +1

    Kyrie-Drama effect 🤣😅😂

  • @german2507
    @german2507 Před rokem

    09:55 where did the KD comparison come from? 🤣🤣

  • @allanpaoloalingod1863

    Paul George. From rise to stardom to breaking his leg. All of a sudden he got a name "Pandemic P".

  • @iSoul33
    @iSoul33 Před rokem +1

    Honorable mention, Ben Simmons?
    Rookie of the year, high expectations (LeBron comparisons) to demanding to be traded from the 76ers, not attempting a shot and now being labeled a lazy player that only cares about the money.

    • @stackhat8624
      @stackhat8624 Před rokem

      Wouldnt you demand a trade after your coach and number 1 player on the team threw you under the bus to cover their own butts? And with the Sixers crashing out in the 2nd round AGAIN without Simmons on the team I think its clear the Sixers were largely at fault.

    • @alexescutia4805
      @alexescutia4805 Před rokem

      @@stackhat8624 you’re clearly uninformed. In the same presser embiid blamed himself. Wouldn’t you wanna say something when a player doesn’t have a drive to win a title and is happy collecting a paycheck instead of improving year after year? Especially when he was roy and a number one pick?

    • @stackhat8624
      @stackhat8624 Před rokem

      @@alexescutia4805 wow, what a team mate you'd be?
      Sure, I would want to say something ... IN PRIVATE. Not to some reporter.

  • @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly

    KD was horrible at creating burner accounts

  • @sergioferrero46
    @sergioferrero46 Před rokem

    I don't think that Dwight has ever been considered a villain, he just dropped from that all-time great status he had in Orlando

  • @vincesalamander5980
    @vincesalamander5980 Před rokem

    I think Steph Curry could be see as a hero who turned to villain to hero again
    Same for Kawhi
    Steph was a hero during the first title, then with the boring of seen the Warriors win, he became a villain, with KD
    Then, with the brave lost in 2019, then the return to the top in 2022, he became a hero again
    For Kawhi... Simple, he became a villain when he left the Spurs after his injuries and argue with Pop. And he became a hero a second later, in Toronto.
    And now, with the (uneffective) load management with the Clippers, he become slowly but surely a villain
    KD show it : people love underdogs, and hate people when they destroy the competition

  • @ChawletMelk
    @ChawletMelk Před rokem +1

    Harden, Russ, Dejounte Murray maybe lol

  • @thereal_notoriousakagdubb3486

    In 2019-20 season before pandemic showed up:unicorn center vs Texas foundation of hope (Glyndon Warren notorious aka gdubb went from a popular to a number#1 public enemy villain and same year kingdom life CDC vs Texas foundation of hope)Glyndon Warren notorious aka gdubb has been booed every arena ever since?

  • @KB-qk1ic
    @KB-qk1ic Před rokem

    Chris Paul?
    Undersized point guard the dragged his hornets to relevancy. Then made the clippers contenders but started becoming known for all of the underhanded stuff he does on the court

  • @Mrdtable
    @Mrdtable Před rokem +2

    His ring is real but with or without kd they would’ve won so I would say he was more handed those rings until he win it on his team I can’t respect it

  • @magnumcornetto
    @magnumcornetto Před rokem

    The Magic team that Howard led to the Finals was not "mediocre". In 2009 it had 3 all-stars (Howard, Lewis and Nelson, who was selected but didn't play 'cause of injury). Hedo Turkoglu could've easily been named an all-star that year too. Their bench was pretty deep. They beat two 60-plus wins teams that year in the playoffs. The 2010 team with Vince Carter was arguably even better, but they underestimated the Celtics in the ECF. Both teams ended with 59 wins, and were 3rd and 2nd seeds. Now, the Magic Howard left in 2012, that was a mediocre team: Big Baby? past-his-prime Jason Richardson? Turkoglu's corpse?

  • @raiyan
    @raiyan Před rokem

    Dwight Howard reputation to became a hero again return when he back to LA help the Lakers Championship in the bubble

  • @brucelau2023
    @brucelau2023 Před rokem

    For sure KD definitely fit well in this video 💯💯💯💯💯

  • @Alpha-dg9vk
    @Alpha-dg9vk Před rokem

    Malone is a menace on and off the court

  • @smolaether
    @smolaether Před rokem +7

    Now I know why Kyrie and KD are best friends

  • @urhead1o152
    @urhead1o152 Před rokem

    2015 cavs where the favorite to win,gsw was the underdog..

  • @DJThrillerKN
    @DJThrillerKN Před rokem

    If we are being honest. Most if not all nba superstars can be considered villains. there will always be haters no matter what they did or where they came from

  • @Stumpers24
    @Stumpers24 Před rokem +1

    I miss the SuperSonics

  • @jonjonbailey4314
    @jonjonbailey4314 Před rokem

    6:03 it seems like n Orlando he could b gas n peace but once he hit L.A. it became a problem 😕

  • @SwipeDogg
    @SwipeDogg Před rokem

    I used to sympathize with KD. Being the face of a young franchise, losing to the powerhouse Heat, having to play with Westbrook... nowadays? Lol. He used to be like the anti-LeBron now he's more like LeBron than anybody in the league especially when it comes to his public image.

  • @jerrylanary4889
    @jerrylanary4889 Před rokem

    Heroes even having bad games, season or playoff runs. Dirk and Spurs Big 3. Also add David Robinson.

  • @WatchKells
    @WatchKells Před rokem

    Hakim is a Monster.

  • @iMr.Jetpacks
    @iMr.Jetpacks Před rokem +1

    KD going to Golden State was a bitch move!

  • @Retiredhandle
    @Retiredhandle Před rokem

    How can people trash a guy who plays through a *BACK* injury and teams would turn around and say he wasn’t professional if he acted different around the coach and a guy who smiles is a problem😑

  • @jacksonlykins4323
    @jacksonlykins4323 Před rokem

    Troydan has to react at this, his reaction will be hilarious.

  • @ExistentHope
    @ExistentHope Před rokem

    Kobe was seen as a hero then villian then seen as a hero again and then a legend. I never seen Lebron as the villian I just seen his desire to win a championship was very desperate at the time joining the Heat.

    • @blacknetsmed
      @blacknetsmed Před rokem

      Lebron is one of the beloved in NBA History. He is also without a doubt the hated NBA Star in history, half the country hates and it has less too with basketball.

  • @ShadowCeltic
    @ShadowCeltic Před rokem

    Yea after I found out about that Karl Malone mess, I start looking at him different. That is nasty

  • @bollocks3168
    @bollocks3168 Před rokem +3

    KD fans should be ashamed of themselves